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* ValuesDissonance: The male leads' casual encouragement of date rape is pretty cringeworthy nowadays.
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* ValuesDissonance: So much of this movie would definitely not fly with today's audiences. Just to name a few examples:
** The male leads' casual encouragement of date rape is pretty cringeworthynowadays.nowadays.
** The character Long Duk Dong is a pretty awkward walking, talking Asian stereotype complete with an exaggerated accent PlayedForLaughs and a gong sound effect whenever he shows up.
** The casual use of the word "fag" and "faggot" would be considered very un-PC.
** Nudity and dropping of the word "fuck" in a PG rated film would certainly many viewers off guard.
** The treatment of geeks as weird and creepy social outcasts would be especially shocking today considering that geek culture is very trendy and mainstream.
** The male leads' casual encouragement of date rape is pretty cringeworthy
** The character Long Duk Dong is a pretty awkward walking, talking Asian stereotype complete with an exaggerated accent PlayedForLaughs and a gong sound effect whenever he shows up.
** The casual use of the word "fag" and "faggot" would be considered very un-PC.
** Nudity and dropping of the word "fuck" in a PG rated film would certainly many viewers off guard.
** The treatment of geeks as weird and creepy social outcasts would be especially shocking today considering that geek culture is very trendy and mainstream.
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* NotSoDifferent: The Baker family looks down on the Rizczeck family's behavior and clothing, though given how most of them act (the grandparents and Mike to name a few), they're just as rude and crass.
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* ValuesDissonance: The male leads' casual encouragement of date rape is pretty cringeworthy nowadays.
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* EthnicScrappy: Long Duk Dong is a sad latter-day example.
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* EthnicScrappy: Long Duk Dong is a sad latter-day example.borderline example: he does come away from the story with more physical injuries than the other characters, but he's also had the night of his life and effortlessly found a really cool girlfriend.
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* UnfortunateImplications: It's been [[http://www.salon.com/2009/08/11/16_candles/ argued]] that the film tacitly endorses date rape. Jake tells Ted to take the drunk Caroline home, saying "she's so blitzed she won't know the difference". They end up having sex (initiated by Caroline) and she says next morning that she enjoyed it.
* TheWoobie: Sam. Her entire family forgets her 16th birthday because they're so focused on her older sister's wedding, and she's in love with Jake Ryan, who doesn't even know she exists.
* TheWoobie: Sam. Her entire family forgets her 16th birthday because they're so focused on her older sister's wedding, and she's in love with Jake Ryan, who doesn't even know she exists.
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* UnfortunateImplications: It's been [[http://www.salon.com/2009/08/11/16_candles/ argued]] that the film tacitly endorses date rape. sexual assault. Ted relentlessly harasses Sam and is rewarded for it throughout the story. Jake also tells Ted to take the drunk Caroline home, saying "she's so blitzed she won't know the difference". They end up having sex (initiated by Caroline) and she says next morning that she enjoyed it.
* TheWoobie: Sam. Her entire family forgets her 16th birthday because they're so focused on her older sister's wedding, and she's in love with Jake Ryan, who she thinks doesn't even know she exists.
* TheWoobie: Sam. Her entire family forgets her 16th birthday because they're so focused on her older sister's wedding, and she's in love with Jake Ryan, who she thinks doesn't even know she exists.
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* EthnicScrappy: Long Duk Dong is a sad latter-day example.
* HollywoodHomely: A DiscussedTrope involving Samantha. It's even discussed between Jake and a friend of his (who is befuddled he'd consider leaving the sexy and built Caroline for the younger and less "mature" Samantha).
---> '''Jake:''' Do you know Samantha Baker?
---> '''Friend:''' Sophomore, right?
---> '''Jake:''' Yeah, what do you think of her?
---> '''Friend:''' I don't.
---> '''Jake:''' Would you ever go out with her?
---> '''Friend:''' Depends on how much you pay me.
---> '''Jake:''' She's not ugly.
---> '''Friend:''' There's nothing there, man. It's not ugly, it's just void.
* HollywoodHomely: A DiscussedTrope involving Samantha. It's even discussed between Jake and a friend of his (who is befuddled he'd consider leaving the sexy and built Caroline for the younger and less "mature" Samantha).
---> '''Jake:''' Do you know Samantha Baker?
---> '''Friend:''' Sophomore, right?
---> '''Jake:''' Yeah, what do you think of her?
---> '''Friend:''' I don't.
---> '''Jake:''' Would you ever go out with her?
---> '''Friend:''' Depends on how much you pay me.
---> '''Jake:''' She's not ugly.
---> '''Friend:''' There's nothing there, man. It's not ugly, it's just void.
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* TheWoobie: Sam. Her entire family forgets her 16th birthday because they're so focused on her older sister's wedding, and she's in love with Jake Ryan, who doesn't even know she exists.
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* TheWoobie: Sam. Her entire family forgets her 16th birthday because they're so focused on her older sister's wedding, and she's in love with Jake Ryan, who doesn't even know she exists.exists.
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* CoolBigSis: Sam could be seen as this by her younger sister, Sara.
---> '''Mike:''' Who'd marry her?
---> '''Sara:''' [[TheATeam Mr. T]].
* ModernMinstrelsy: Long Duk Dong.
---> '''Mike:''' Who'd marry her?
---> '''Sara:''' [[TheATeam Mr. T]].
* ModernMinstrelsy: Long Duk Dong.
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* CoolBigSis: Sam could be seen as this by her younger sister, Sara.
---> '''Mike:''' Who'd marry her?
---> '''Sara:''' [[TheATeam Mr. T]].
---> '''Mike:''' Who'd marry her?
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* UnfortunateImplications: It's been [[http://www.salon.com/2009/08/11/16_candles/ argued]] that the film tacitly endorses date rape. Jake tells Ted to take the drunk Caroline home, saying "she's so blitzed she won't know the difference". They end up having sex (initiated by Caroline) and she says next morning that she enjoyed it.
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* ModernMinstrelsy: Again, Long Duk Dong.
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* ModernMinstrelsy: Again, ModernMinstrelsy: Long Duk Dong.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice - UnfortunateImplications: The shockingly racist portrayal of Long Duk Dong, whose scenes ''always'' open with a stereotypical "Chinese Gong." And that's the ''least'' offensive element that John Hughes incorporated into his character.
** DudeShesLikeInAComa is eventually sorta averted, but the movie implies a couple of times that there's nothing wrong with screwing unconscious people. First Jake wonders why he doesn't feel like going upstairs to have sex with the unconscious Caroline - it's not because that would be rape, it's just because he isn't into her anymore - and then he lets Ted drive her home, still unconscious, as a ''favor''. Why else would taking a drunk girl home be a fun thing to do?
*** To be fair though - Caroline apparently finds something enjoyable in the experience. In fact she seems a little bemused by how ''much'' she enjoyed it. Seeing how Anthony Michale Hall turned out she'd be wise to hang on to Ted.
**** Yeah, that doesn't make it better, since it basically plays into the old NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization. If Caroline was too drunk to consent, Ted is a rapist, period.
*** Actually, Jake never actually says he's ever taken advantage of Caroline in this state, he just says he ''could''. He may have even been playing things up in front of Ted.
** As well as the casual throwing around of 'fags' when these days 'sissy' or 'lamer' would be have been used instead for censorship. Never mind that it's still a pretty common insult to get under one's skin quickly in middle and high schools.
** Almost everything listed above is essentially a more recent instance of ValuesDissonance than most examples (still doesn't excuse it in the slightest, though).
** DudeShesLikeInAComa is eventually sorta averted, but the movie implies a couple of times that there's nothing wrong with screwing unconscious people. First Jake wonders why he doesn't feel like going upstairs to have sex with the unconscious Caroline - it's not because that would be rape, it's just because he isn't into her anymore - and then he lets Ted drive her home, still unconscious, as a ''favor''. Why else would taking a drunk girl home be a fun thing to do?
*** To be fair though - Caroline apparently finds something enjoyable in the experience. In fact she seems a little bemused by how ''much'' she enjoyed it. Seeing how Anthony Michale Hall turned out she'd be wise to hang on to Ted.
**** Yeah, that doesn't make it better, since it basically plays into the old NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization. If Caroline was too drunk to consent, Ted is a rapist, period.
*** Actually, Jake never actually says he's ever taken advantage of Caroline in this state, he just says he ''could''. He may have even been playing things up in front of Ted.
** As well as the casual throwing around of 'fags' when these days 'sissy' or 'lamer' would be have been used instead for censorship. Never mind that it's still a pretty common insult to get under one's skin quickly in middle and high schools.
** Almost everything listed above is essentially a more recent instance of ValuesDissonance than most examples (still doesn't excuse it in the slightest, though).
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** Everything listed above is essentially a more recent instance of ValuesDissonance than most examples (time does march on).
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** Everything Almost everything listed above is essentially a more recent instance of ValuesDissonance than most examples (time does march on).(still doesn't excuse it in the slightest, though).
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**** Yeah, that doesn't make it better, since it basically plays into the old NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization. If Caroline was too drunk to consent, Ted is a rapist, period.
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** DudeShesLikeInAComa is eventually sorta averted, but the movie implies a couple of times that there's nothing wrong with screwing unconcious people. First Jake wonders why he doesn't feel like going upstairs to have sex with the unconcious Caroline - it's not because that would be rape, it's just because he isn't into her anymore - and then he lets Ted drive her home, still unconcious, as a ''favour''. Why else would taking a drunk girl home be a fun thing to do?
** DudeShesLikeInAComa is eventually sorta averted, but the movie implies a couple of times that there's nothing wrong with screwing unconcious people. First Jake wonders why he doesn't feel like going upstairs to have sex with the unconcious Caroline - it's not because that would be rape, it's just because he isn't into her anymore - and then he lets Ted drive her home, still unconcious, as a ''favour''. Why else would taking a drunk girl home be a fun thing to do?
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* CrossesTheLineTwice - UnfortunateImplications - UnfortunateImplications: The shockingly racist portrayal of Long Duk Dong, whose scenes ''always'' open with a stereotypical "Chinese Gong." And that's the ''least'' offensive element that John Hughes incorporated into his character.
** DudeShesLikeInAComa is eventually sorta averted, but the movie implies a couple of times that there's nothing wrong with screwingunconcious unconscious people. First Jake wonders why he doesn't feel like going upstairs to have sex with the unconcious unconscious Caroline - it's not because that would be rape, it's just because he isn't into her anymore - and then he lets Ted drive her home, still unconcious, unconscious, as a ''favour''.''favor''. Why else would taking a drunk girl home be a fun thing to do?
** DudeShesLikeInAComa is eventually sorta averted, but the movie implies a couple of times that there's nothing wrong with screwing
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** You could say it's all a more contemporary instance of ValuesDissonance (time does march on).
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** You could say it's all Everything listed above is essentially a more contemporary recent instance of ValuesDissonance than most examples (time does march on).
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** You could say it's all a more contemporary instance of ValuesDissonance (time does march on).
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*** Actually, Jake never actually says he's ever taken advantage of Caroline in this state, he just says he ''could''. He may have even been plying things up in front of Ted.
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*** Actually, Jake never actually says he's ever taken advantage of Caroline in this state, he just says he ''could''. He may have even been plying playing things up in front of Ted.
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*** Actually, Jake never actually says he's ever taken advantage of Caroline in this state, he just says he ''could''. He may have even been plying things up in front of Ted.
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*** To be fair though - Caroline apparently finds something enjoyable in the experience. In fact she seems a little bemused by how ''much'' she enjoyed it. Seeing how Michael Anthony Hall turned out she'd be wise to hang on to Ted.
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*** To be fair though - Caroline apparently finds something enjoyable in the experience. In fact she seems a little bemused by how ''much'' she enjoyed it. Seeing how Michael Anthony Michale Hall turned out she'd be wise to hang on to Ted.
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*** To be fair though - Caroline apparently finds something enjoyable in the experience. In fact she seems a little bemused by how ''much'' she enjoyed it. Seeing how Michael Anthony Hall turned out she'd be wise to hang on to Ted.
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* TheWoobie: Sam. Her entire family forgets her 16th birthday because they're so focused on her older sister's wedding, and she's in love with Jake Ryan, who doesn't even know she exists.
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* ModernMinstrelsy: Again, Long Duk Dong.
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** This Troper is Asian-American and found Dong's scenes to be friggin' hilarious (maybe just because of personel NWordPrivileges).
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* {{Adorkable}} -- Long Duk Dong.
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* UnfortunateImplications - The shockingly racist portrayal of Long Duk Dong, whose scenes ''always'' open with a stereotypical "Chinese Gong." And that's the ''least'' offensive element that John Hughes incorporated into his character.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice - UnfortunateImplications - The shockingly racist portrayal of Long Duk Dong, whose scenes ''always'' open with a stereotypical "Chinese Gong." And that's the ''least'' offensive element that John Hughes incorporated into his character.
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** As well as the casual throwing around of 'fags' when these days 'sissy' or 'lamer' would be have been used instead for censorship. Never mind that it's still a pretty common insult to get under one's skin quickly in middle and high schools.
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** DudeShe'sLikeInAComa is eventually sorta averted, but the movie implies a couple of times that there's nothing wrong with screwing unconcious people. First Jake wonders why he doesn't feel like going upstairs to have sex with the unconcious Caroline - it's not because that would be rape, it's just because he isn't into her anymore - and then he lets Ted drive her home, still unconcious, as a ''favour''. Why else would taking a drunk girl home be a fun thing to do?
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** DudeShe'sLikeInAComa DudeShesLikeInAComa is eventually sorta averted, but the movie implies a couple of times that there's nothing wrong with screwing unconcious people. First Jake wonders why he doesn't feel like going upstairs to have sex with the unconcious Caroline - it's not because that would be rape, it's just because he isn't into her anymore - and then he lets Ted drive her home, still unconcious, as a ''favour''. Why else would taking a drunk girl home be a fun thing to do?
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** DudeShe'sLikeInAComa is eventually sorta averted, but the movie implies a couple of times that there's nothing wrong with screwing unconcious people. First Jake wonders why he doesn't feel like going upstairs to have sex with the unconcious Caroline - it's not because that would be rape, it's just because he isn't into her anymore - and then he lets Ted drive her home, still unconcious, as a ''favour''. Why else would taking a drunk girl home be a fun thing to do?
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** This Troper is Asian-American and found Dong's scenes to be friggin' hilarious (maybe just because of personel NWordPrivileges).
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** This Troper is Asian-American and found Dong's scenes to be friggin' hilarious (maybe just because of personel NWordPrivileges).NWordPrivileges).
* TheWoobie: Sam.
* TheWoobie: Sam.
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* UnfortunateImplications - The shockingly racist portrayal of Long Duk Dong, whose scenes ''always'' open with a stereotypical "Chinese Gong." And that's the ''least'' offensive element that John Hughes incorporated into his character.
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* UnfortunateImplications - The shockingly racist portrayal of Long Duk Dong, whose scenes ''always'' open with a stereotypical "Chinese Gong." And that's the ''least'' offensive element that John Hughes incorporated into his character.character.
** This Troper is Asian-American and found Dong's scenes to be friggin' hilarious (maybe just because of personel NWordPrivileges).
** This Troper is Asian-American and found Dong's scenes to be friggin' hilarious (maybe just because of personel NWordPrivileges).