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** This twist is similar in the American Remake, except it is pretty much clear that [[spoiler:Ben planned everything all along, being the one to dope Megumi, and was pretty much there all along during the entire rape. Even after he gotten the pictures he came for, he didn't interfere when his friends proceeded from molestation to rape.]]
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** This twist is similar in the American Remake, except it is pretty much clear that [[spoiler:Ben planned everything all along, being the one to dope Megumi, and was pretty much there all along during the entire rape. Even after he gotten got the pictures he came for, he didn't interfere when his friends proceeded from molestation to rape.]]
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: In comparison to [[spoiler: Ben]] in the remake, Tun is this in the 2004 film. While it ''is'' [[spoiler: disgusting he didn't do anything to stop Natre's rape and instead took photos of the rape]], he [[spoiler: shows ''immense regret'' for his mistake and stresses that while he didn't grow to love Natre, he did care deeply for her and his fate of being brain damaged with Natre's ghost forever attached to him]] shows a disturbing amount of pity.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: In comparison to [[spoiler: Ben]] in the remake, Tun is this in the 2004 film. While it ''is'' [[spoiler: disgusting he didn't do anything to stop Natre's rape and instead took photos of the rape]], it]], he [[spoiler: shows ''immense regret'' for his mistake and stresses that while he didn't grow to love Natre, he did care deeply for her and his fate of being brain damaged with Natre's ghost forever attached to him]] shows a disturbing amount of pity.
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* TheWoobie: Natre, ''big time'', after the viewer learns about her past. Tun arguably qualifies, but his past actions may cause a debate about this. Jane also becomes one at the end: [[spoiler:not only does she discover that the man she loves betrayed his former lover in a horrifying way, she is absolutely crushed by the fact that, by the end of the movie, he is severely injured, catatonic and quite possibly brain damaged.]]
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* TheWoobie: Natre, ''big time'', after the viewer learns about her past.
** Tun arguably qualifies, but his past actions may cause a debate aboutthis. this leaving him a JerkassWoobie at best.
** Jane also becomes one at the end: [[spoiler:not only does she discover that the man she loves betrayed his former lover in a horrifying way, she is absolutely crushed by the fact that, by the end of the movie, he is severely injured, catatonic and quite possibly brain damaged.]]
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** Jane also becomes one at the end: [[spoiler:not only does she discover that the man she loves betrayed his former lover in a horrifying way, she is absolutely crushed by the fact that, by the end of the movie, he is severely injured, catatonic and quite possibly brain damaged.]]
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: In comparison to [[spoiler: Ben]] in the remake, Tun is this in the 2004 film. While it ''is'' [[spoiler: disgusting he didn't do anything to stop Natre's rape and instead took photos of the rape]], you can he [[spoiler: shows ''immense regret'' for his mistake and stresses that while he didn't grow to love Natre, he did care deeply for her and his fate of being brain damaged with Natre's ghost forever attached to him]] shows a disturbing amount of pity.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: In comparison to [[spoiler: Ben]] in the remake, Tun is this in the 2004 film. While it ''is'' [[spoiler: disgusting he didn't do anything to stop Natre's rape and instead took photos of the rape]], you can he [[spoiler: shows ''immense regret'' for his mistake and stresses that while he didn't grow to love Natre, he did care deeply for her and his fate of being brain damaged with Natre's ghost forever attached to him]] shows a disturbing amount of pity.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: In comparison to [[spoiler: Ben]] in the remake, Tun is this in the 2004 film. While it ''is'' [[spoiler: disgusting he didn't do anything to stop Natre's rape and instead took photos of the rape]], you can he [[spoiler: shows ''immense regret'' for his mistake and stresses that while he didn't grow to love Natre, he did care deeply for her and his fate of being brain damaged with Natre's ghost forever attached to him]] shows a disturbing amount of pity.
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* MoralEventHorizon - It is eventually revealed that, [[spoiler:while she was alive, Natre was raped by one of Tun's friends, while his other two friends held her down. Tun then walked in on them, and, instead of rushing to his girlfriend's aid (he was still, presumably, keeping their relationship a secret from his friends), he not only decided to keep the rape a secret, thus protecting his friends, he also ''took pictures'' of the restrained and traumatised Natre, so that his friends would be able to use the images as a form of blackmail. Afterwards, when Natre becomes suicidal, he dumps her. Although he clearly regrets the whole incident, some viewers lose all sympathy with Tun at that point. Years later, when Jane finds out the truth, his only defence is that he was "young and stupid".]] ''No wonder'' Natre's pissed.
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* MoralEventHorizon - MoralEventHorizon: It is eventually revealed that, [[spoiler:while she was alive, Natre was raped by one of Tun's friends, while his other two friends held her down. Tun then walked in on them, and, instead of rushing to his girlfriend's aid (he was still, presumably, keeping their relationship a secret from his friends), he not only decided to keep the rape a secret, thus protecting his friends, he also ''took pictures'' of the restrained and traumatised traumatized Natre, so that his friends would be able to use the images as a form of blackmail. Afterwards, when Natre becomes suicidal, he dumps her. Although he clearly regrets the whole incident, some viewers lose all sympathy with Tun at that point. Years later, when Jane finds out the truth, his only defence defense is that he was "young and stupid".]] ''No wonder'' Natre's pissed.
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* {{Narm}} - The [=US=] remake has the Tun-equivalent Ben get attacked by Natre-equivalent Megumi's [[spoiler:long, grotesque, thick ''tongue'']] at one point. It really doesn't fit in with the rest of the movie at all and is frankly just ridiculous.
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* {{Narm}} - {{Narm}}: The [=US=] remake has the Tun-equivalent Ben get attacked by Natre-equivalent Megumi's [[spoiler:long, grotesque, thick ''tongue'']] at one point. It really doesn't fit in with the rest of the movie at all and is frankly just ridiculous.
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* {{Narm}} - The [=US=] remake has the Tun-equivalent get attacked by Natre-equivalent's [[spoiler:long, grotesque, thick ''tongue'']] at one point. It really doesn't fit in with the rest of the movie at all and is frankly just ridiculous.
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* {{Narm}} - The [=US=] remake has the Tun-equivalent Ben get attacked by Natre-equivalent's Natre-equivalent Megumi's [[spoiler:long, grotesque, thick ''tongue'']] at one point. It really doesn't fit in with the rest of the movie at all and is frankly just ridiculous.
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* TheWoobie: Natre, after the viewer learns about her past.
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: When Tun is in the bathroom and asks for some toilet paper from the stall next to him, a woman's hand hands him some. Thinking that it might be Natre, he leaves his stall and slowly moves to the adjacent stall, kicking it open to reveal... a male-to-female transexual. [[ToiletHumor Who is in the middle of taking a dump]]. Possibly doubles as a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, as the tone of this scene is considerably different to the rest of the film.
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* ToiletHumor: The aforementioned scene with the transexual in the public toilet.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: When Tun is in the bathroom and asks for some toilet paper from the stall next to him, a woman's hand hands him some. Thinking that it might be Natre, he leaves his stall and slowly moves to the adjacent stall, kicking it open to reveal... a male-to-female transexual. [[ToiletHumor Who is in the middle of taking a dump]]. Possibly doubles as a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, as the tone of this scene is considerably different to the rest of the film.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: When Tun is in the bathroom and asks for some toilet paper from the stall next to him, a woman's hand hands him some. Thinking that it might be Natre, he leaves his stall and slowly moves to the adjacent stall, kicking it open to reveal... a male-to-female transexual. [[ToiletHumor Who is in the middle of taking a dump]]. Possibly doubles as a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, as the tone of this scene is considerably different to the rest of the film.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny CrowningMomentOfFunny: When Tun is in the bathroom and asks for some toilet paper from the stall next to him and him, a woman's hand hands him some. He Thinking that it might be Natre, he leaves his stall and slowly moves to the adjacent stall, kicking it open to reveal... a tranny. male-to-female transexual. [[ToiletHumor Who is in the middle of taking a dump]]. Possibly doubles as a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, as the tone of this scene is considerably different to the rest of the film.
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* CorwningMomentOfFunny CrowningMomentOfFunny When Tun is in the bathroom and asks for some toilet paper from the stall next to him and a woman's hand hands him some. He leaves his stall and slowly moves to the adjacent stall, kicking it open to reveal... a tranny.
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