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* CompleteMonster: ''Shanghai Noon'': [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Lo Fong]] is an ill-tempered Chinese insurgent seeking to avenge himself when cast out as a traitor and conducts slavery as a means of business, subjecting the slaves to horrible abuses as well. To this end, Lo Fong has Princess Pei-Pei abducted in order to force Imperial Guard Chon Wang into a fight for her life, while Lo Fong impedes his efforts to make it to said fight and [[TraumaticHaircut cuts off his ponytail]] to dishonor him and prevent him from returning home as well. Lo Fong's [[BadBoss own men]] also prove to not in any way be safe from his rage and ruthlessness either, as on more than one occasion, he brutally executes them for [[YouHaveFailedMe any kind of failure]].
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* CompleteMonster: ''Shanghai Noon'': [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Lo Fong]] is an ill-tempered Chinese insurgent seeking to avenge himself when cast out as a traitor and conducts slavery as a means of business, subjecting the slaves to horrible abuses as well. To this end, Lo Fong has Princess Pei-Pei abducted in order to force Imperial Guard Chon Wang into a fight for her life, while Lo Fong impedes his efforts to make it to said fight and [[TraumaticHaircut cuts off his ponytail]] to dishonor him and prevent him from returning home as well. Lo Fong's [[BadBoss own men]] also prove to not in any way be safe from his rage and ruthlessness either, as on more than one occasion, he brutally executes them for [[YouHaveFailedMe any kind of failure]].
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* CompleteMonster:
** ''Shanghai Noon'': [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Lo Fong]] is an ill-tempered Chinese insurgent seeking to avenge himself when cast out as a traitor and conducts slavery as a means of business, subjecting the slaves to horrible abuses as well. To this end, Lo Fong has Princess Pei-Pei abducted in order to force Imperial Guard Chon Wang into a fight for her life, while Lo Fong impedes his efforts to make it to said fight and [[TraumaticHaircut cuts off his ponytail]] to dishonor him and prevent him from returning home as well. Lo Fong's [[BadBoss own men]] also prove to not in any way be safe from his rage and ruthlessness either, as on more than one occasion, he brutally executes them for [[YouHaveFailedMe any kind of failure]].
** ''Shanghai Knights'':
*** [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Nelson Rathbone]] is a British Royal seeking the crown of England for himself. To this end, Rathbone has stolen the Seal of China and murdered Chon and his sister Lin's father who was the Keeper, and has both Chon and Roy O'Bannon subjected to torture as well as later antagonizing Chon in a sword fight. Rathbone allies with Wu Chow--who wants the Seal to get control in China--and intends to arrange a [[RulingFamilyMassacre mass shooting]] with him that will wipe out all nine of the Royals in the line of succession and thus make him the King as a result.
*** [[AmbitionIsEvil Wu Chow]] himself is the illegitimate brother of the Emperor of China. Wanting to take power in China and by doing so eventually take full control, Wu Chow hires Rathbone to break in to steal the Seal of China while killing the Keeper. Once Wu Chow then gets the Seal from Rathbone, he intends to kill the Royal Family with a [[GatlingGood Gatling gun]] and deliver Rathbone the crown as payment—and fights and tries to kill Lin for her interference in the process.
* EvenBetterSequel: While ''Shanghai Knights'' breaks away from the Western trappings of ''Shanghai Noon'', many people felt it has some of the best action sequences in any of Jackie's Hollywood movies.
* HilariousInHindsight: In the sequel, Donnie Yen's character is killed by the female lead with a firework, similar to the death of the main antagonist in ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}''. 17 years later, Yen would play Commander Tung, one of the central characters, in ''Film/Mulan2020'', who is based off of Captain Shang. For extended amusement, Jackie Chan voiced Shang in the Chinese version of the film. So the fight between the two is technically Shang vs Shang.
** ''Shanghai Noon'': [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Lo Fong]] is an ill-tempered Chinese insurgent seeking to avenge himself when cast out as a traitor and conducts slavery as a means of business, subjecting the slaves to horrible abuses as well. To this end, Lo Fong has Princess Pei-Pei abducted in order to force Imperial Guard Chon Wang into a fight for her life, while Lo Fong impedes his efforts to make it to said fight and [[TraumaticHaircut cuts off his ponytail]] to dishonor him and prevent him from returning home as well. Lo Fong's [[BadBoss own men]] also prove to not in any way be safe from his rage and ruthlessness either, as on more than one occasion, he brutally executes them for [[YouHaveFailedMe any kind of failure]].
** ''Shanghai Knights'':
*** [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Nelson Rathbone]] is a British Royal seeking the crown of England for himself. To this end, Rathbone has stolen the Seal of China and murdered Chon and his sister Lin's father who was the Keeper, and has both Chon and Roy O'Bannon subjected to torture as well as later antagonizing Chon in a sword fight. Rathbone allies with Wu Chow--who wants the Seal to get control in China--and intends to arrange a [[RulingFamilyMassacre mass shooting]] with him that will wipe out all nine of the Royals in the line of succession and thus make him the King as a result.
*** [[AmbitionIsEvil Wu Chow]] himself is the illegitimate brother of the Emperor of China. Wanting to take power in China and by doing so eventually take full control, Wu Chow hires Rathbone to break in to steal the Seal of China while killing the Keeper. Once Wu Chow then gets the Seal from Rathbone, he intends to kill the Royal Family with a [[GatlingGood Gatling gun]] and deliver Rathbone the crown as payment—and fights and tries to kill Lin for her interference in the process.
* EvenBetterSequel: While ''Shanghai Knights'' breaks away from the Western trappings of ''Shanghai Noon'', many people felt it has some of the best action sequences in any of Jackie's Hollywood movies.
* HilariousInHindsight: In the sequel, Donnie Yen's character is killed by the female lead with a firework, similar to the death of the main antagonist in ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}''. 17 years later, Yen would play Commander Tung, one of the central characters, in ''Film/Mulan2020'', who is based off of Captain Shang. For extended amusement, Jackie Chan voiced Shang in the Chinese version of the film. So the fight between the two is technically Shang vs Shang.
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* CompleteMonster:
**CompleteMonster: ''Shanghai Noon'': [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Lo Fong]] is an ill-tempered Chinese insurgent seeking to avenge himself when cast out as a traitor and conducts slavery as a means of business, subjecting the slaves to horrible abuses as well. To this end, Lo Fong has Princess Pei-Pei abducted in order to force Imperial Guard Chon Wang into a fight for her life, while Lo Fong impedes his efforts to make it to said fight and [[TraumaticHaircut cuts off his ponytail]] to dishonor him and prevent him from returning home as well. Lo Fong's [[BadBoss own men]] also prove to not in any way be safe from his rage and ruthlessness either, as on more than one occasion, he brutally executes them for [[YouHaveFailedMe any kind of failure]].
** ''Shanghai Knights'':
*** [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Nelson Rathbone]] is a British Royal seeking the crown of England for himself. To this end, Rathbone has stolen the Seal of China and murdered Chon and his sister Lin's father who was the Keeper, and has both Chon and Roy O'Bannon subjected to torture as well as later antagonizing Chon in a sword fight. Rathbone allies with Wu Chow--who wants the Seal to get control in China--and intends to arrange a [[RulingFamilyMassacre mass shooting]] with him that will wipe out all nine of the Royals in the line of succession and thus make him the King as a result.
*** [[AmbitionIsEvil Wu Chow]] himself is the illegitimate brother of the Emperor of China. Wanting to take power in China and by doing so eventually take full control, Wu Chow hires Rathbone to break in to steal the Seal of China while killing the Keeper. Once Wu Chow then gets the Seal from Rathbone, he intends to kill the Royal Family with a [[GatlingGood Gatling gun]] and deliver Rathbone the crown as payment—and fights and tries to kill Lin for her interference in the process.
* EvenBetterSequel: While ''Shanghai Knights'' breaks away from the Western trappings of ''Shanghai Noon'', many people felt it has some of the best action sequences in any of Jackie's Hollywood movies.
* HilariousInHindsight: In the sequel, Donnie Yen's character is killed by the female lead with a firework, similar to the death of the main antagonist in ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}''. 17 years later, Yen would play Commander Tung, one of the central characters, in ''Film/Mulan2020'', who is based off of Captain Shang. For extended amusement, Jackie Chan voiced Shang in the Chinese version of the film. So the fight between the two is technically Shang vs Shang.failure]].
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** ''Shanghai Knights'':
*** [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Nelson Rathbone]] is a British Royal seeking the crown of England for himself. To this end, Rathbone has stolen the Seal of China and murdered Chon and his sister Lin's father who was the Keeper, and has both Chon and Roy O'Bannon subjected to torture as well as later antagonizing Chon in a sword fight. Rathbone allies with Wu Chow--who wants the Seal to get control in China--and intends to arrange a [[RulingFamilyMassacre mass shooting]] with him that will wipe out all nine of the Royals in the line of succession and thus make him the King as a result.
*** [[AmbitionIsEvil Wu Chow]] himself is the illegitimate brother of the Emperor of China. Wanting to take power in China and by doing so eventually take full control, Wu Chow hires Rathbone to break in to steal the Seal of China while killing the Keeper. Once Wu Chow then gets the Seal from Rathbone, he intends to kill the Royal Family with a [[GatlingGood Gatling gun]] and deliver Rathbone the crown as payment—and fights and tries to kill Lin for her interference in the process.
* EvenBetterSequel: While ''Shanghai Knights'' breaks away from the Western trappings of ''Shanghai Noon'', many people felt it has some of the best action sequences in any of Jackie's Hollywood movies.
* HilariousInHindsight: In the sequel, Donnie Yen's character is killed by the female lead with a firework, similar to the death of the main antagonist in ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}''. 17 years later, Yen would play Commander Tung, one of the central characters, in ''Film/Mulan2020'', who is based off of Captain Shang. For extended amusement, Jackie Chan voiced Shang in the Chinese version of the film. So the fight between the two is technically Shang vs Shang.
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* RetroactiveRecognition:
** In ''Shanghai Noon'', Wallace is played by Creator/WaltonGoggins, who remained a steady character actor for years afterwards before breaking into name-recognition territory.
** Charlie Chaplin in ''Shanghai Knights'' is played by a young Creator/AaronTaylorJohnson.
** Nelson Rathbone in ''Shanghai Knights'' is played by Creator/AidanGillen. It's his first major American film, and it premiered a year before his memorable turn in ''Series/TheWire'' began.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Even for a goofy action flick, Lin is clearly ''way'' out of Roy's league (both in terms of looks and ass-kicking), yet becomes smitten with him after just a few days and one conversation of knowing him, and still wants to date him even after Chon explains all of Roy's flaws in brutal detail ([[ReallyGetsAround including his philandering]]), for no other reason than [[DamnedByFaintPraise "he has a good heart."]] Girl, you can do so much better.
* StrawmanHasAPoint:
** Be honest, if you were Chon would ''you'' want Roy dating your sister?? Sure, Chon promising Roy he'd put in a good word with his sister, bad-mouthing him to her instead, then pretending nothing happened afterwards is dishonest, but the reasons Chon list for why he doesn't want Roy dating Lin are 100% valid (especially the part about Roy being a philanderer), yet Roy and the narrative brush him off as just being an overprotective big brother to Lin and a bad friend to Roy, [[NeverMyFault who never addresses his own flaws]] or stops browbeating him about it until Chon [[IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer reluctantly gives his blessing]].
** In the second film, when Chon and Roy discover Lin is imprisoned, Chon immediately considers breaking her out, only for Roy to pull Chon aside and discourage him, arguing that he can use the fact that the detective is a fan and try to get her released that way. It fails, and this is used to portray Roy as incompetent, but Chon's original plan would have been to break out a felon from a jail cell.
** In ''Shanghai Noon'', Wallace is played by Creator/WaltonGoggins, who remained a steady character actor for years afterwards before breaking into name-recognition territory.
** Charlie Chaplin in ''Shanghai Knights'' is played by a young Creator/AaronTaylorJohnson.
** Nelson Rathbone in ''Shanghai Knights'' is played by Creator/AidanGillen. It's his first major American film, and it premiered a year before his memorable turn in ''Series/TheWire'' began.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Even for a goofy action flick, Lin is clearly ''way'' out of Roy's league (both in terms of looks and ass-kicking), yet becomes smitten with him after just a few days and one conversation of knowing him, and still wants to date him even after Chon explains all of Roy's flaws in brutal detail ([[ReallyGetsAround including his philandering]]), for no other reason than [[DamnedByFaintPraise "he has a good heart."]] Girl, you can do so much better.
* StrawmanHasAPoint:
** Be honest, if you were Chon would ''you'' want Roy dating your sister?? Sure, Chon promising Roy he'd put in a good word with his sister, bad-mouthing him to her instead, then pretending nothing happened afterwards is dishonest, but the reasons Chon list for why he doesn't want Roy dating Lin are 100% valid (especially the part about Roy being a philanderer), yet Roy and the narrative brush him off as just being an overprotective big brother to Lin and a bad friend to Roy, [[NeverMyFault who never addresses his own flaws]] or stops browbeating him about it until Chon [[IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer reluctantly gives his blessing]].
** In the second film, when Chon and Roy discover Lin is imprisoned, Chon immediately considers breaking her out, only for Roy to pull Chon aside and discourage him, arguing that he can use the fact that the detective is a fan and try to get her released that way. It fails, and this is used to portray Roy as incompetent, but Chon's original plan would have been to break out a felon from a jail cell.
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* RetroactiveRecognition:
** In ''Shanghai Noon'',RetroactiveRecognition: Wallace is played by Creator/WaltonGoggins, who remained a steady character actor for years afterwards before breaking into name-recognition territory.
** Charlie Chaplin in ''Shanghai Knights'' is played by a young Creator/AaronTaylorJohnson.
** Nelson Rathbone in ''Shanghai Knights'' is played by Creator/AidanGillen. It's his first major American film, and it premiered a year before his memorable turn in ''Series/TheWire'' began.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Even for a goofy action flick, Lin is clearly ''way'' out of Roy's league (both in terms of looks and ass-kicking), yet becomes smitten with him after just a few days and one conversation of knowing him, and still wants to date him even after Chon explains all of Roy's flaws in brutal detail ([[ReallyGetsAround including his philandering]]), for no other reason than [[DamnedByFaintPraise "he has a good heart."]] Girl, you can do so much better.
* StrawmanHasAPoint:
** Be honest, if you were Chon would ''you'' want Roy dating your sister?? Sure, Chon promising Roy he'd put in a good word with his sister, bad-mouthing him to her instead, then pretending nothing happened afterwards is dishonest, but the reasons Chon list for why he doesn't want Roy dating Lin are 100% valid (especially the part about Roy being a philanderer), yet Roy and the narrative brush him off as just being an overprotective big brother to Lin and a bad friend to Roy, [[NeverMyFault who never addresses his own flaws]] or stops browbeating him about it until Chon [[IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer reluctantly gives his blessing]].
** In the second film, when Chon and Roy discover Lin is imprisoned, Chon immediately considers breaking her out, only for Roy to pull Chon aside and discourage him, arguing that he can use the fact that the detective is a fan and try to get her released that way. It fails, and this is used to portray Roy as incompetent, but Chon's original plan would have been to break out a felon from a jail cell.territory.
** In ''Shanghai Noon'',
** Charlie Chaplin in ''Shanghai Knights'' is played by a young Creator/AaronTaylorJohnson.
** Nelson Rathbone in ''Shanghai Knights'' is played by Creator/AidanGillen. It's his first major American film, and it premiered a year before his memorable turn in ''Series/TheWire'' began.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Even for a goofy action flick, Lin is clearly ''way'' out of Roy's league (both in terms of looks and ass-kicking), yet becomes smitten with him after just a few days and one conversation of knowing him, and still wants to date him even after Chon explains all of Roy's flaws in brutal detail ([[ReallyGetsAround including his philandering]]), for no other reason than [[DamnedByFaintPraise "he has a good heart."]] Girl, you can do so much better.
* StrawmanHasAPoint:
** Be honest, if you were Chon would ''you'' want Roy dating your sister?? Sure, Chon promising Roy he'd put in a good word with his sister, bad-mouthing him to her instead, then pretending nothing happened afterwards is dishonest, but the reasons Chon list for why he doesn't want Roy dating Lin are 100% valid (especially the part about Roy being a philanderer), yet Roy and the narrative brush him off as just being an overprotective big brother to Lin and a bad friend to Roy, [[NeverMyFault who never addresses his own flaws]] or stops browbeating him about it until Chon [[IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer reluctantly gives his blessing]].
** In the second film, when Chon and Roy discover Lin is imprisoned, Chon immediately considers breaking her out, only for Roy to pull Chon aside and discourage him, arguing that he can use the fact that the detective is a fan and try to get her released that way. It fails, and this is used to portray Roy as incompetent, but Chon's original plan would have been to break out a felon from a jail cell.
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* CompleteMonster:
** ''Shanghai Noon'': [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Lo Fong]] is an ill-tempered Chinese insurgent seeking to avenge himself when cast out as a traitor and conducts slavery as a means of business, subjecting the slaves to horrible abuses as well. To this end, Lo Fong has Princess Pei-Pei abducted in order to force Imperial Guard Chon Wang into a fight for her life, while Lo Fong impedes his efforts to make it to said fight and [[TraumaticHaircut cuts off his ponytail]] to dishonor him and prevent him from returning home as well. Lo Fong's [[BadBoss own men]] also prove to not in any way be safe from his rage and ruthlessness either, as on more than one occasion, he brutally executes them for [[YouHaveFailedMe any kind of failure]].
** ''Shanghai Knights'':
*** [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Nelson Rathbone]] is a British Royal seeking the crown of England for himself. To this end, Rathbone has stolen the Seal of China and murdered Chon and his sister Lin's father who was the Keeper, and has both Chon and Roy O'Bannon subjected to torture as well as later antagonizing Chon in a sword fight. Rathbone allies with Wu Chow--who wants the Seal to get control in China--and intends to arrange a [[RulingFamilyMassacre mass shooting]] with him that will wipe out all nine of the Royals in the line of succession and thus make him the King as a result.
*** [[AmbitionIsEvil Wu Chow]] himself is the illegitimate brother of the Emperor of China. Wanting to take power in China and by doing so eventually take full control, Wu Chow hires Rathbone to break in to steal the Seal of China while killing the Keeper. Once Wu Chow then gets the Seal from Rathbone, he intends to kill the Royal Family with a [[GatlingGood Gatling gun]] and deliver Rathbone the crown as payment—and fights and tries to kill Lin for her interference in the process.
** ''Shanghai Noon'': [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Lo Fong]] is an ill-tempered Chinese insurgent seeking to avenge himself when cast out as a traitor and conducts slavery as a means of business, subjecting the slaves to horrible abuses as well. To this end, Lo Fong has Princess Pei-Pei abducted in order to force Imperial Guard Chon Wang into a fight for her life, while Lo Fong impedes his efforts to make it to said fight and [[TraumaticHaircut cuts off his ponytail]] to dishonor him and prevent him from returning home as well. Lo Fong's [[BadBoss own men]] also prove to not in any way be safe from his rage and ruthlessness either, as on more than one occasion, he brutally executes them for [[YouHaveFailedMe any kind of failure]].
** ''Shanghai Knights'':
*** [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Nelson Rathbone]] is a British Royal seeking the crown of England for himself. To this end, Rathbone has stolen the Seal of China and murdered Chon and his sister Lin's father who was the Keeper, and has both Chon and Roy O'Bannon subjected to torture as well as later antagonizing Chon in a sword fight. Rathbone allies with Wu Chow--who wants the Seal to get control in China--and intends to arrange a [[RulingFamilyMassacre mass shooting]] with him that will wipe out all nine of the Royals in the line of succession and thus make him the King as a result.
*** [[AmbitionIsEvil Wu Chow]] himself is the illegitimate brother of the Emperor of China. Wanting to take power in China and by doing so eventually take full control, Wu Chow hires Rathbone to break in to steal the Seal of China while killing the Keeper. Once Wu Chow then gets the Seal from Rathbone, he intends to kill the Royal Family with a [[GatlingGood Gatling gun]] and deliver Rathbone the crown as payment—and fights and tries to kill Lin for her interference in the process.
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* DuelingMovies:
** The film's premise is largely recycled from ''Film/RushHour''.
** Sammo Hung once heard Jackie Chan discuss the 'film he'd want to make someday' (A western/kung fu movie), and (thinking it was just Jackie's daydream, and not an actual plan) went ahead and made ''Film/OnceUponATimeInChinaAndAmerica''. They make an interesting contrast.
** The film's premise is largely recycled from ''Film/RushHour''.
** Sammo Hung once heard Jackie Chan discuss the 'film he'd want to make someday' (A western/kung fu movie), and (thinking it was just Jackie's daydream, and not an actual plan) went ahead and made ''Film/OnceUponATimeInChinaAndAmerica''. They make an interesting contrast.
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** Be honest, if you were Chon would ''you'' want Roy dating your sister?? Sure, Chon promising Roy he'd put in a good word with his sister, bad-mouthing him to her instead, then pretending nothing happened afterwards is dishonest, but the reasons Chon list for why he doesn't want Roy dating Lin are 100% valid (especially the part about Roy being a philanderer), yet Roy and the narrative brush him off as just being an [[OverprotectiveDad overprotective big brother]] to Lin and a bad friend to Roy, [[NeverMyFault who never addresses his own flaws]] or stops browbeating him about it until Chon [[IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer reluctantly gives his blessing]].
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** Be honest, if you were Chon would ''you'' want Roy dating your sister?? Sure, Chon promising Roy he'd put in a good word with his sister, bad-mouthing him to her instead, then pretending nothing happened afterwards is dishonest, but the reasons Chon list for why he doesn't want Roy dating Lin are 100% valid (especially the part about Roy being a philanderer), yet Roy and the narrative brush him off as just being an [[OverprotectiveDad overprotective big brother]] brother to Lin and a bad friend to Roy, [[NeverMyFault who never addresses his own flaws]] or stops browbeating him about it until Chon [[IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer reluctantly gives his blessing]].
