History YMMV / SecretEmpire

** The fact that the majority of the civilians appear to be completely okay with living under HYDRA's tyranny, and offer little to no opposition, to the point that the heroes starring the story seem to be literally the only ones who oppose them, has been widely ridiculed, especially as it seems to be an attempt at political satire. It's been pointed out multiple times that even in the most repressive real life societies, this doesn't happen, though others argue it's depressingly in-character for [[UngratefulTownsfolk Marvel civilians]].

** As stated by [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-G0tpydFuQ his review of the book]], the book's portrayal of fascism as a generic dictatorship instead of the nightmarish ideology it really is, HYDRA's rule showing to be a strong regime that helps the economy, [[NaziProtagonist HYDRA-Cap]] being shown sympathetically because he doesn't go all-out in his beliefs and him being worthy of Mjolnir when a lot of modern Neo-Nazis co-opt ancient Nordic symbols for their branding all show that the book & writers were being rather tone-deaf about the current political climate. Portraying Nazis as strong leaders runs counter to the fact that they were mostly bigoted losers who committed [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust attrocity after attrocity]] in the name of racial purity.

* DracoInLeatherPants: Nick Spencer attempted to defy this trope, but it's heavily failed thanks to Marvel's promotion - many fans actually quite ''like'' Steve like this as it's an interesting take on the character. It doesn't help that, despite Marvel trying to portray this as a good guy vs. bad guy event, a vast majority of the stories show the bad guys trumping the good guys. Being an event that extends well into August makes it even worse.

* UnfortunateImplications: [[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/antica/ This article]] opines that Spencer's run with ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'', climaxing in ''Secret Empire'', simply brought to the forefront Unfortunate Implications that have always existed in the superhero concept, namely that it advocates ultraconservative philosophy and blind obedience to authority by idealizing larger-than-life authority figures who are never wrong and [[ReedRichardsIsUseless despite their awesome powers]] simply settle for [[StatusQuoIsGod keeping the world as it is]] rather than improving it. The article even speculates that these implications could lead to [[GenreKiller a backlash against the genre itself]] in the future. It would not be until the summer of 2020, when [[https://time.com/5857064/defunding-police-superheroes-onscreen/ another article]] would re-examine the portrayal of superheroes as authority figures in light of the resurgence of the Black Lives Matter movement, following the death of George Floyd, touching on several of the same points the first article brought up, just in a more broad sense to the whole genre.

* UnfortunateImplications: [[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/antica/ This article]] opines that Spencer's run with ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'', climaxing in ''Secret Empire'', simply brought to the forefront Unfortunate Implications that have always existed in the superhero concept, namely that it advocates ultraconservative philosophy and blind obedience to authority by idealizing larger-than-life authority figures who are never wrong and [[ReedRichardsIsUseless despite their awesome powers]] simply settle for [[StatusQuoIsGod keeping the world as it is]] rather than improving it. The article even speculates that these implications could lead to [[GenreKiller a backlash against the genre itself]] in the future. It would not be until the summer of 2020, when [[https://time.com/5857064/defunding-police-superheroes-onscreen/ another article]] would re-examine the portrayal of superheroes as authority figures in light of the resurgence of the Black Lives Matter movement following the death of George Floyd touching on several of the same points the first article brought up, just in a more broad sense to the whole genre.

* UnfortunateImplications: [[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/antica/ This article]] opines that Spencer's run with ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'', climaxing in ''Secret Empire'', simply brought to the forefront Unfortunate Implications that have always existed in the superhero concept, namely that it advocates ultraconservative philosophy and blind obedience to authority by idealizing larger-than-life authority figures who are never wrong and [[ReedRichardsIsUseless despite their awesome powers]] simply settle for [[StatusQuoIsGod keeping the world as it is]] rather than improving it. The article even speculates that these implications could lead to [[GenreKiller a backlash against the genre itself]] in the near future.

** [[spoiler:HYDRA Cap lifting Mjolnir in the FCBD issue was later revealed in the final issue as a farce -- Elisa Sinclair had used a shard of the Cosmic Cube to change the magic and inscription to make HYDRA Cap worthy. When the world is set back to normal, so is the change and the HYDRA Cap learns to his horror that he's not worthy, yet the second Steve is.]]

** [[spoiler: The fact that it ended with the original Cap miraculously coming back to defeat Hydra Cap has caused some discontent, with some saying it is a cop-out just to keep Cap's hands clean and not have him really atone for anything (the official press release on InternetBackdraft below swore that Cap was going to be the hero of the day... people obviously thought that he was going to do a HeelFaceTurn ''somehow''). Now, he can just blame it on the other Cap. However, some state it was really the only way to end the story.]]

* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The main title is an 11-issue weekly-released mini-series. The tie-ins run on a mostly monthly basis with a handful being bimonthly. Despite being advertised as a "good guy vs. bad guy" event, the first month (which includes half of the mini-series) has essentially been "TheBadGuyWins: The Event" with only not even a handful of victories for the heroes. The BigGood of the Marvel Universe is a fascist leader and his LegacyCharacter replacement pulled a RageQuit. And, surprise, the citizens of the United States have once again decided they ''like'' the villains ruling over them outside of a handful. If the idea of Steve Rogers being a fascist ruling America hasn't turned you off, the complete DownerBeginning of the first month throughout all titles will. Worse yet, Nick Spencer is adamant that the usual tropes that could solve this problem ''will not'' be used to end this (although on the press release linked below on "Internet Backdraft" Marvel Comics actually had to cave in and spoil the arc by insisting that Captain America ''will'' go back to be a hero (somehow) and save the day... and this they said in an attempt to convince people to stop burning issues). Finally, the Nazi comparisons and the event being written and released during a particularly turbulent time in American politics where GodwinsLaw was thrown around ([[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment though we will not discuss whether or not it has justification]]) did not help it at all. The revelation in Champions #11 that [=HYDRA=] used a microwave weapon to literally cook hundreds of innocent people during the razing of Las Vegas, ultimately roasting those people alive, contributed to this as well. When ''ComicBook/{{Ultron}}'' himself no longer cares about destroying humanity because he believes they are doing a good job at it themselves, you know things are bad.

* FandomRivalry: Fans of the TV series ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' love to take potshots at this series for 3 primary reasons: One, Marvel promoted the hell out of ''Secret Empire'' and seems increasingly dedicated to trying to [[ScrewedByTheNetwork get the TV series cancelled]], two, the fourth season of ''S.H.I.E.L.D.'' featured a similar storyline about a world where HYDRA won, and theirs won near-''universal'' critical acclaim while ''Secret Empire'' is currently the Marvel fandom's [[BileFascination number one]] [[InternetBackdraft punching]] [[AcceptableTargets bag,]] and three, ''Secret Empire'' was kicked off with [[spoiler: the death of Coulson.]] It doesn't help that the writer of ''Secret Empire'' played damage-control by claiming that while HYDRA are villainous, [[InsistentTerminology they're not Nazis]] while ''S.H.I.E.L.D.'' [[http://screenrant.com/agents-shield-framework-simmons-hydra-nazis/ went out of its way]] to say that "[[ANaziByAnyOtherName a Nazi]] [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped is a Nazi, and don't you ever forget it.]]"

* InternetBackdraft:
** ''Secret Empire'' has been target of websites and fans for allegedly retconning the nature of the Marvel Universe and/or Steve Rogers at first. What many of the critics seem to miss is that the reveal is only done by [[spoiler: Steve Rogers and Elisa Sinclair - already established to be UnreliableNarrator in the narrative since they're respectively manipulated by Kobik and a creation of Kobik. Nobody else in-universe acknowledges their view as true - not even Baron Zemo.]]
** A series featuring villains aligned with Cap had a variant cover with ComicBook/{{Magneto}} on it. Given that Magneto is a Holocaust survivor and has long opposed HYDRA for their connections to the Nazis, it's not really hard to see why several fans didn't take kindly to this. [[spoiler:Neither did they when it was revealed that Scarlet Witch (a Romani) was part of Rogers' super-powered-SecretPolice "Avengers".]]
** [[spoiler: The [=FCBD=] Secret Empire issue ends with Hydra Cap lifting Mjolnir easily, as if deemed worthy by the Hammer]], which only led to more protest and frustration for some people.
** One of Marvel's plans to promote ''Secret Empire'' involved handing out promotional materials to comic book shops that include HYDRA T-shirts for staff of these shops to wear. Like everything else connected to the story, it's been met by fans and retailers vehemently opposing the ad campaign due to what they perceive as Marvel essentially asking comic shops to dress up as Nazis to promote the story.
** On a lesser note, Nick Spencer tweeted that Secret Empire #0 was the best selling comic for its month. People who follow comic sales had a [[https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/05/08/not-batman-21-actually-outsell-secret-empire-0-flash-21/ field]] [[http://screenrant.com/secret-empire-marvel-sales-dc-comic/?utm_source=SR-DCEU&utm_medium=Facebook-Distribution&utm_campaign=SR-DCEU&view=list day]] with this, noting that both ''ComicBook/{{Batman|Rebirth}}'' #21 and ''Franchise/TheFlash'' #21 (Parts 1 and 2 of ''ComicBook/TheButton'') beat it, because ''Secret Empire'' won on a technicality, and not one that's hard to see at that -- the lenticular covers for those DC issues were considered different items, but added to the sales of the non-lenticular covers, ''both'' issues outsold ''Secret Empire''.
** You know that the backdraft is pretty bad [[http://www.comicsbeat.com/marvel-pleads-for-readers-to-wait-until-the-end-of-secret-empire-to-pass-judgement/ when Marvel itself sends out an official news statement that pretty much asks people to stop and at least wait until the arc is over before passing judgment]] because people are '''burning their issues or tossing them in the trash''' in protest. The irony being that comics are a periodical medium, therefore it is commonplace to judge it piecemeal to begin with, and that the Hydra Cap story had been going on for a year by the time of Marvel's press release.
** Nick Spencer caused another small backdraft when he began blocking anyone who didn't praise Secret Empire on Twitter. While some said this was his right others pointed out that it came off as being thin skinned (something he's been accused of before).
*** Spencer also got a lot of flak for claiming Secret Empire was the most ambitious comic event ever due to its bimonthly timetable. Fans instantly began pointing to DC's Year Long Weekly Event Comics, including ComicBook/FiftyTwo which came out ten years prior, as having a more grueling time table.
** Secret Empire has the infamy of ultimately becoming the second worst selling major Marvel event in the last 10 years, something many fans are quick to bring up when discussing it.

* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: InternetBackdraft and BrokenBase aside, most reviews rate it more positively than previous {{Crisis Crossover}}s Marvel has had like ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'' and ''ComicBook/InhumansVsXMen''. Although both of those arcs were poorly-received, so that's not saying much, and commercially, it ultimately faired worse than both, being the second worst selling major Marvel event comic in the last 10 years.

* HarsherInHindsight: HYDRA's greatest crime within the story is the gruesome murder of the entire population of Las Vegas with a microwave weapon. Only a month after the storyline ended, Stephen Craig Paddock went on a killing spree in the Vegas Strip, killing fifty-nine people and then taking his own life, the deadliest mass murder in U.S. history.

** Steve Rogers didn't remain a fascist thug. [[spoiler:People just hoped that it wouldn't have required Kobik to bring back the heroic Steve from the original timeline, though. And technically, one Steve Rogers still remains a fascist thug.]]

** Steve Rogers didn't remain a fascist thug. [[spoiler:People just hoped that it wouldn't have required Kobik magically creating a "good" Steve clone, though. And technically, one Steve Rogers still remains a fascist thug.]]

** [[spoiler: Maria Hill's reasoning for dropping the parking deck on Deadpool: was it because she didn't want him to pull a double cross on her or was there another reason? As Deadpool pointed out, everything that happened here traces back to her creating Pleasant Hill -- was Maria pissed off he rubbed that in her face again? As well, she had been on the run for awhile due to Pleasant Hill -- was she taking a page from Norman Osborn's book and stealing the glory from Deadpool to get herself back into S.H.I.E.L.D.'s good graces?]] Or was it perhaps revenge for the death of [[spoiler:Phil Coulson?]]

* {{Anvilicious}}: Some of dialogue and plot points are so blatantly meant as nods to Trump's America that it borders on comical. ''Sam Wilson: Captain America'' #22 has a scene where a group of working class diner patrons claim that HYDRA, a known terrorist organization that has tried to conquer the world ''multiple times'', isn't evil, and that "the media" is using fake news to smear them. Said scene also has two guys basically admit they don't mind living under fascist rule as long as it continues to produce more jobs. The irony is that Spencer and Alonso [[https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/04/marvel-would-like-you-to-know-captain-americas-turn-to-fascism-has-little-to-do-with-politics/ claimed]] that this story was not meant to be read as political. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that is all that needs to be said about that]].

** Hydra Cap is defeated [[spoiler: by Sam Wilson (the last minority hero left after the rest are wiped away by Hydra Cap) kneeling before him, proclaiming 'Hail Hydra' and giving Steve the final cube shard only to reveal that Ant-Man and Bucky were shrunk on it and they enter the cube, saving Kobik and the memory of Steve, who defeats Hydra Steve. This bothers some since, in other words, the main black hero kneels before a Nazi after all other non-white heroes are removed from the universe and then wait for three white men to save the day. Others feel that this development had nothing to do with race, instead claiming that mainly using Bucky and the memory of Steve made perfect sense, character-wise, and that Sam's deception played the biggest part in undoing Hydra Cap.]]
** [[spoiler: The fact that it ended with the original Cap miraculously coming back to defeat Hydra Cap has caused some discontent, with some saying it is a cop-out just to keep Cap's hands clean and not have him really atone for anything (the official press release on "Internet Backdraft" below swore that Cap was going to be the hero of the day... people obviously thought that he was going to do a HeelFaceTurn ''somehow''). Now, he can just blame it on the other Cap. However, some state it was really the only way to end the story.]]

** Even worse, apparently that same cube was the reason Spider-Man did not kill Captain-America, not because he does not want to be a killer.

* {{Anvilicious}}: Some of dialogue and plot points are so blatantly meant as nods to Trump's America that it borders on comical. ''Sam Wilson: Captain America'' #22 has a scene where a group of working class diner patrons claim that HYDRA, a known terrorist organization that has tried to conquer the world ''multiple times'', isn't evil, and that "the media" is using fake news to smear them. Said scene also has two guys basically admit they don't mind living under fascist rule as long as it continues to produce more jobs. The irony is that Spencer and Alonso [[https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/04/marvel-would-like-you-to-know-captain-americas-turn-to-fascism-has-little-to-do-with-politics/ claimed]] that this story was not meant to be read as political. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And that is all that needs to be said about that]].

* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The main title is an 11-issue weekly-released mini-series. The tie-ins run on a mostly monthly basis with a handful being bimonthly. Despite being advertised as a "good guy vs. bad guy" event, the first month (which includes half of the mini-series) has essentially been "TheBadGuyWins: The Event" with only not even a handful of victories for the heroes. The BigGood of the Marvel Universe is a fascist leader and his LegacyCharacter replacement pulled a RageQuit. And, surprise, the citizens of the United States have once again decided they ''like'' the villains ruling over them outside of a handful. If the idea of Steve Rogers being a fascist ruling America hasn't turned you off, the complete DownerBeginning of the first month throughout all titles will. Worse yet, Nick Spencer is adamant that the usual tropes that could solve this problem ''will not'' be used to end this (although on the press release linked below on "Internet Backdraft" Marvel Comics actually had to cave in and spoil the arc by insisting that Captain America ''will'' go back to be a hero (somehow) and save the day... and this they said in an attempt to convince people to stop burning issues). Finally, the Nazi comparisons and the event being written and released during a particularly turbulent time in American politics where GodwinsLaw was thrown around ([[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment though we will not discuss whether or not it has justification]]) did not help it at all. The revelation in Champions #11 that [=HYDRA=] used a microwave weapon to literally cook hundreds of innocent people during the razing of Las Vegas, ultimately roasting those people alive, contributed to this as well. When ''ComicBook/{{Ultron}}'' himself no longer cares about destroying humanity because he believes they are doing a good job at it themselves, you know things are bad.

** Even worse, apparently that same cube was the reason Spider-Man did not kill Captain-America, not because he he does not want to be a killer.

* BrokenAesop:
** A story about the consequences of trusting in a single heroic man ends with... the heroes all trusting in a single heroic man to save the day.
** Hydra Captain America's fascist actions being treated as AndThatsTerrible becomes so since both Iron Man and Captain Marvel in ''Civil War 1'' and ''2'' respectively were not given repercussions and were even supported by the public. While ReasonYouSuckSpeech (by Ultron!Pym himself) and regrets over their actions were given for these issues, but it ended up as ShowDontTell.
** People having to deal with the damage they cause, which is why [[spoiler: Kobik leaves the world in ruin]], doesn't really work considering that the damage only ''existed in the first place'' because of the reactions to Hydra Cap. Really, it seems more like a case of [[spoiler: Kobik]] trying to pass the blame around.

** Fans of the Scarlet Witch are also not pleased that she's being mind-controlled to be a bad guy ''again,'' especially after having gone through an arc in her own book about the many times she's been mind controlled to attack the Avengers and taking steps against it happening again. Increasingly, it seems that this is the only way many writers know how to write Wanda.
** The ending for two points (especially because Spencer pretty much boasted that he would ''not'' be using "[[DeusExMachina easy ways]]" to solve the problem):
*** Hydra Cap is defeated [[spoiler: by Sam Wilson (the last minority hero left after the rest are wiped away by Hydra Cap) kneeling before him, proclaiming 'Hail Hydra' and giving Steve the final cube shard only to reveal that Ant-Man and Bucky were shrunk on it and they enter the cube, saving Kobik and the memory of Steve, who defeats Hydra Steve. This bothers some since, in other words, the main black hero kneels before a Nazi after all other non-white heroes are removed from the universe and then wait for three white men to save the day. Others feel that this development had nothing to do with race, instead claiming that mainly using Bucky and the memory of Steve made perfect sense, character-wise, and that Sam's deception played the biggest part in undoing Hydra Cap.]]
*** When the comic first came out both the writer and [=EiC=] proclaimed they wouldn't use the Cosmic Cube to undo what happened. [[spoiler: Kobik undoes almost everything that happened, creating a new Cap, undoing all that Hydra did to alter history, and saving all the minority heroes. While Black Widow and Rick Jones remain dead and all the battle damage in Las Vegas remains, Kobik hand waves away almost everything else]]
*** [[spoiler: In addition to that, the fact that it ended with the original Cap miraculously coming back to defeat Hydra Cap has caused some discontent, with some saying it is a cop-out just to keep Cap's hands clean and not have him really atone for anything (the official press release on "Internet Backdraft" below swore that Cap was going to be the hero of the day... people obviously thought that he was going to do a HeelFaceTurn ''somehow''). Now, he can just blame it on the other Cap. However, some state it was really the only way to end the story.]]

* CluelessAesop: The writer occasionally claims that Secret Empire is trying to tell a story about creeping fascism but the fact that everything in the story is ultimately at the whim of Kobik makes it hard for the message to hit home for many.
* ContinuitySnarl: In issues 7 and 8, there is the focus of Miles Morales' potentially murdering Steve Rogers in front of the Capitol building, predicted by Ulysses. Miles is convinced [[BecauseDestinySaysSo that he MUST be there at the Capitol]] even after being locked up by Widow, so it doesn't matter what the password is; he will make it. Tony later claims that all the visions that Ulysses had, this one was the ONLY one that did not come to pass. Yet this is completely contradictory to Civil War II, where Tony pointed out that Ulysses' visions were NOT accurate and ultimately "guesswork", meaning that there was no guarantee of anything.

* InferredHolocaust:[[spoiler:Kobik refuses to bring back anybody killed during the event, which includes ''the entirety of the population of the city of Las Vegas, Nevada'' (and rebuild the city, while she's at it) because she believes it will leave behind a message: "never again". Yeah, like the [[CrapsackWorld Marvel]] [[AesopAmnesia Uni]][[UngratefulTownsfolk verse]] will actually learn the lesson...]]

* TheWarOnStraw: A parody page in Not Brand Echh #14, in which critics of Secret Empire are portrayed as a series of racial caricatures on Twitter.

*** When the comic first came out both the writer and [=EiC=] proclaimed they wouldn't use the Cosmic Cube to undo what happened. [[spoiler: Kobik undoes almost everything that happened, creating a new Cap, undoing all that Hydra did to alter history, and saving all the minority heroes. While Black Widow and Rick Jones remain dead and all the battle damage remains, Kobik hand waves away almost everything else]]

** Secret Empire has the infamy of ultimately becoming the second worst selling Marvel event in the last 10 years, something many fans are quick to bring up when discussing it.

* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: InternetBackdraft and BrokenBase aside, most reviews rate it more positively than previous {{Crisis Crossover}}s Marvel has had like ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'' and ''ComicBook/InhumansVsXMen''. Although both of those arcs were poorly-received, so that's not saying much, and commercially, it ultimately faired worse than both, being the second worst selling Marvel event comic in the last 10 years.

* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: InternetBackdraft and BrokenBase aside, most reviews rate it more positively than previous {{Crisis Crossover}}s Marvel has had like ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'' and ''ComicBook/InhumansVsXMen''.
** Although both of those arcs were poorly-received, so that's not saying much.

** Frank Castle's allegiance to [=HYDRA=] was a significant plot point in Secret Empire 3, and it looked like he too would be used to flesh out the villain side--especially since his morally ambiguous nature puts him in a position where he could more plausibly accept [=HYDRA's=] arguments than other heroes that could have been used for the same purpose. He had no significant contribution besides losing a fight to Black Widow in issue 7, and by Secret Empire Omega, has turned on [=HYDRA=] while bluntly dismissing his prior actions as a "Big mistake". This has led many to accuse Spencer of derailing the Punisher's character merely to anger his fans, as he didn't affect the story on any significant way.

*** Hydra Cap is defeated [[spoiler: by Sam Wilson (the last minority hero left after the rest are wiped away by Hydra Cap) kneeling before him, proclaiming 'Hail Hydra' and giving Steve the final cube shard only to reveal that Ant-Man and Bucky were shrunk on it and they enter the cube, saving Kobik and the memory of Steve, who defeats Hydra Steve. This bothers some since, in other words, [[UnfortunateImplications the main black hero kneels before a Nazi after all other non-white heroes are removed from the universe and then wait for three white men to save the day]]. Others feel that this development had nothing to do with race, instead claiming that mainly using Bucky and the memory of Steve made perfect sense, character-wise, and that Sam's deception played the biggest part in undoing Hydra Cap.]]

*** [[spoiler: In addition to that, the fact that it ended with a separate Cap with his original memories being created to defeat Hydra Cap has caused some discontent, with some saying it is a cop-out just to keep Cap's hands clean and not have him really atone for anything (the official press release on "Internet Backdraft" below swore that Cap was going to be the hero of the day... people obviously thought that he was going to do a HeelFaceTurn ''somehow''). Now, he can just blame it on the other Cap. However, some state it was really the only way to end the story.]]

* InferredHolocaust:
** Hydra is said to have fought World War II against the Allies instead of the Nazis, but their complicity in the historical Holocaust, which logically follows, is never acknowledged, similarly to RealLife Holocaust denial.
** [[spoiler:Kobik refuses to bring back anybody killed during the event, which includes ''the entirety of the population of the city of Las Vegas, Nevada'' (and rebuild the city, while she's at it) because she believes it will leave behind a message: "never again". Yeah, like the [[CrapsackWorld Marvel]] [[AesopAmnesia Uni]][[UngratefulTownsfolk verse]] will actually learn the lesson...]]

** Sally Floyd [[spoiler:is incarcerated by Captain America after an interview gone wrong.]] It is meant to be a despicable moment for Cap, but considering the cruel and insensitive way she tried to demoralize Cap in ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', it was easy for some to take some satisfaction at the predicament. [[spoiler:Adding insult to injury, Cap taunts her to go to Twitter and complain about it.]] That said, some were sympathetic and saying even she didn't deserve that.

** Sally Floyd [[spoiler:is incarcerated by Captain America after an interview gone wrong.]] It is meant to be a despicable moment for Cap, but considering the cruel and insensitive way she tried to demoralize Cap in ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', it's easy to take some satisfaction at the predicament. [[spoiler:Adding insult to injury, Cap taunts her to go to Twitter and complain about it.]]

** Steve Rogers didn't remain a fascist thug. [[spoiler:People just hoped that it wouldn't have required Kobik magically creating a "good" Steve clone, though.]]

** Hydra Captain America's fascist actions being treated as AndThatsTerrible becomes so since both Iron Man and Captain Marvel in ''Civil War 1'' and ''2'' respectively were not given repercussions and were even supported without any sense of irony by the public without any intentions of being written of the similar issue. While ReasonYouSuckSpeech (by Ultron!Pym himself) and regrets over their actions were given for these issues, but it ended up as ShowDontTell.