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** There's also the fact that if anything, many of the problems alluded to in the promo have gotten ''worse'' in the intervening 29 years.
* HilariousInHindsight: At one point, Frank's boss asks a bemused Frank if he has any idea how many cats and dogs there are in America, and proceeds to press Frank into including 'pet appeal', which soon appears in the form of some mice in the Christmas Carol adaptation. While farcical in the film and yet appearing to work, certain pet food companies have since experimented with the concept of including sound and noise to capture the attention of cats and other animals in their commercials.

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** There's also the fact that if anything, many of the problems alluded to in the promo have gotten ''worse'' in the intervening 29 years.
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* HilariousInHindsight: At one point, Frank's boss asks a bemused Frank if he has any idea how many cats and dogs there are in America, and proceeds to press Frank into including 'pet appeal', which soon appears in the form of some mice in the Christmas Carol ''Christmas Carol'' adaptation. While farcical in the film and yet appearing to work, certain pet food companies have since experimented with the concept of including sound and noise to capture the attention of cats and other animals in their commercials. commercials, and there's even a cable service called DOG TV along those lines.
** Frank initially quips that the frozen sewer he's suddenly transported into is [[Creator/DonaldTrump Trump Tower]]. At the time, Trump was just known as a real estate mogul, but now it plays as an even bigger TakeThat

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* SpiritualAdaptation: This macabre and modern take on the classic Charles Dickens tale sounds like something Creator/TimBurton would do, which is also further helped by the fact the film's music is done by Burton's ProductionPosse member Creator/DannyElfman and star Creator/BillMurray would actually later work with Burton himself on ''Film/EdWood''.



* SpiritualLicensee: This macabre and modern take on the classic Charles Dickens tale sounds like something Creator/TimBurton would do, which is also further helped by the fact the film's music is done by Burton's ProductionPosse member Creator/DannyElfman and star Creator/BillMurray would actually later work with Burton himself on ''Film/EdWood''.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything?: [[FireAndBrimstoneHell The cremation scene.]]

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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything?: DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: [[FireAndBrimstoneHell The cremation scene.]]
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Carol Kane's Ghost of Christmas Present was by far the most praised character in contemporary reviews, the worst even calling her its sole redeeming feature.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Carol Kane's Creator/CarolKane's Ghost of Christmas Present was by far the most praised character in contemporary reviews, the worst even calling her its sole redeeming feature.
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* VindicatedByHistory: While few critics have softened their position on the movie, it's become a holiday classic among more irreverent viewers because, much like ''Film/NationalLampoonsChristmasVacation'', it emphasizes comedy over {{Glurge}} while still playing the Christmas-y aspects straight.

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* VindicatedByHistory: While few critics have softened their position on the movie, it's become a holiday classic among more irreverent viewers because, much like ''Film/NationalLampoonsChristmasVacation'', it emphasizes comedy over {{Glurge}} while {{Glurge}}, but still playing plays the Christmas-y aspects straight.straight enough that it doesn't feel like a {{Deconstruction}}.
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* VindicatedByHistory: While few critics have softened their position on the movie, it's become a holiday classic among more irreverent viewers because, much like ''Film/NationalLampoonsChristmasVacation'', it emphasizes comedy over Christmas-y {{Glurge}}.

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* VindicatedByHistory: While few critics have softened their position on the movie, it's become a holiday classic among more irreverent viewers because, much like ''Film/NationalLampoonsChristmasVacation'', it emphasizes comedy over {{Glurge}} while still playing the Christmas-y {{Glurge}}.aspects straight.
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* VindicatedByHistory: While few critics have softened their position on the movie, it's become a holiday classic among more irreverent viewers, much like ''Film/NationalLampoonsChristmasVacation''.

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* VindicatedByHistory: While few critics have softened their position on the movie, it's become a holiday classic among more irreverent viewers, viewers because, much like ''Film/NationalLampoonsChristmasVacation''.''Film/NationalLampoonsChristmasVacation'', it emphasizes comedy over Christmas-y {{Glurge}}.
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* VindicatedByHistory: While few critics have softened their position on the movie, it's become a holiday classic among more irreverent viewers, much like ''Film/NationalLampoonsChristmasVacation''.
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** Eliot Loudermilk. Within the scan of less than 24 hours, he's fired on Christmas Eve, his wife leaves him, taking their baby girl with her and he goes on an alcoholic bender and soon wanting his revenge. Despite GoingPostal, he quickly finds himself out-crazied and dumbfounded before the now reborn Frank.

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** Eliot Loudermilk. Within the scan of less than 24 hours, he's fired on Christmas Eve, his wife leaves him, taking their baby girl with her and he goes on an alcoholic bender and soon wanting his revenge. Despite GoingPostal, he quickly finds himself out-crazied and dumbfounded terrified before the now reborn Frank.
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** Eliot Loudermilk. Within the scan of less than 24 hours, he's fired on Christmas Eve, his wife leaves him, taking their baby girl with her and he goes on an alcoholic bender and soon wanting his revenge.

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** Eliot Loudermilk. Within the scan of less than 24 hours, he's fired on Christmas Eve, his wife leaves him, taking their baby girl with her and he goes on an alcoholic bender and soon wanting his revenge. Despite GoingPostal, he quickly finds himself out-crazied and dumbfounded before the now reborn Frank.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything?: [[FireAndBrimstoneHell The cremation scene.]]
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** There's also the fact that if anything, many of the problems alluded to in the promo have gotten ''worse'' in the intervening 29 years.
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* FridgeBrilliance: When observing the games his brother and his friends are playing alongside the Ghost of Christmas Present, Frank is surprised to find that his brother doesn't know the name of the ship from Gilligan's Island, and later calls him out on this during the finale. But ''of course'' Frank would know - he's the kid in the family the Ghost of Christmas Past calls out for doing nothing but watching TV across his youth, meaning Gilligan's Island is ''exactly'' the kind of show a teenage Frank would have watched.

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* CriticalDissonance: Critics heavily bashed the film on its release for its dark tone and "mean-spiritedness" (what did they expect from a modern update to a story about a dark, mean-spirited protagonist?), but audiences liked it just fine, making it #1 at the box office and Bill Murray's most successful movie to that point since ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}''.

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* CriticalDissonance: Critics heavily bashed the film on its release for its dark tone and "mean-spiritedness" (what did they expect from a modern update to a story about a dark, mean-spirited protagonist?), but audiences liked it just fine, making it #1 at the box office and Bill Murray's Creator/BillMurray's most successful movie to that point since ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}''.



* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Practically the entire ending, but especially [[spoiler:shouting out to Claire, seeing Herman as a ghost, Calvin speaking and the spontaneous song]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: Frank's ''Scrooge'' promo becomes this for two reasons, either because of the 9/11 attacks (so much that the scene is occasionally edited out, namely the "international terrorism" and the exploding plane or just after the tragedy, the whole promo was removed) and that less than a month after the film was released, The Lockerbie Bombing occurred.

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Frank's ''Scrooge'' promo becomes this for two reasons, either because of the 9/11 attacks (so much that the scene is occasionally edited out, namely the "international terrorism" and the exploding plane or just after the tragedy, the whole promo was removed) and that less than a month after the film was released, The Lockerbie Bombing occurred.occurred.
** Frank's ''Scrooge'' promo is apparently so shocking that it killed an old woman. As absurd as it may sound, [[http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/02/26/passion.death.reut/ such a thing has since happened]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: Frank's ''Scrooge'' promo becomes this for two reasons, either because of the 9/11 attacks (so much that the scene is occasionally edited out, namely the "international terrorism" and the exploding plane or just after the tragedy, the whole promo was removed) and that less than a month after the film was released, The Lockerbie Bombing occurred.


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* TheWoobie: Grace and Calvin Cooley. The rest of the family (save for the eldest daughter) arguably qualify as AngstWhatAngst.
** Eliot Loudermilk. Within the scan of less than 24 hours, he's fired on Christmas Eve, his wife leaves him, taking their baby girl with her and he goes on an alcoholic bender and soon wanting his revenge.
** The homeless people at Operation Reach Out, but especially Herman.
** Frank himself, although he was mostly a JerkassWoobie was a full-on woobie as a child and during his terrifying future vision.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The company nurse who takes care of the censor is rather plain. [[TheDrewCareyShow She gets better?]]

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* RetroactiveRecognition: The company nurse who takes care of the censor is rather plain. [[TheDrewCareyShow [[Series/TheDrewCareyShow She gets better?]]
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The company nurse who takes care of the censor is rather plain. [[TheDrewCareyShow She gets better?]]
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* CriticalDissonance: Critics heavily bashed the film on its release for it's dark tone and "mean-spiritedness" (what did they expect from a modern update to a story about a dark, mean-spirited protagonist?), but audiences liked it just fine, making it #1 at the box office and Bill Murray's most successful movie to that point since ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}''.

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* CriticalDissonance: Critics heavily bashed the film on its release for it's its dark tone and "mean-spiritedness" (what did they expect from a modern update to a story about a dark, mean-spirited protagonist?), but audiences liked it just fine, making it #1 at the box office and Bill Murray's most successful movie to that point since ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}''.
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* CriticalDissonance: Critics heavily bashed the film on its release for it's dark tone and "mean-spiritedness" (what did they expect from a modern update to a story about a dark, mean-spirited protagonist?), but audiences liked it just fine, making it #1 at the box office and Bill Murray's most successful movie to that point since ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}''.

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* CriticalDissonance: Critics heavily bashed the film on its release for it's dark tone and "mean-spiritedness" (what did they expect from a modern update to a story about a dark, mean-spirited protagonist?), but audiences liked it just fine, making it #1 at the box office and Bill Murray's most successful movie to that point since ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}''.''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}''.
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** The Ghost of Christmas Past is also quite popular for his CrazyAwesome attitude and antics.
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* TearJerker: The fate of the homeless gent with the pocket-watch.
** It even scores more TearJerker points when Frank of all people berates him for not staying at Operation Reachout.
*** Frank is clearly projecting for part of that scene -- he never says the poor man should have stayed at the shelter, but with Claire.
** How can we not forget the part where Frank sees his mother and cries?
** The whole scene with Future!Calvin, now institutionalized.
--> '''Orderly''': Visiting hours are over, Mrs. Cooley. \\
'''Grace''': (disheveled and heartbroken) But I just got here...
** And with Future!Claire, where it really hits Frank just what sort of a legacy he'll be leaving if he doesn't change.
--> '''Claire:''' ''...He said, "Scrape 'em off, Claire. You want to save somebody? Save yourself!"''
--> '''Frank:''' ''I'm sorry, Claire...''
** Let's be honest, ''everything'' that happens to Elliot after he's fired (up until Frank's HeelFaceTurn) qualifies. At first his life going steadily down the tubes seems funny, but once he elaborates on exactly how bad it's been for him, there's no laughing. Like when he mentions that instead of standing by him and supporting him, his wife ditched him (on Christmas eve no less) and took their only child with her.
** A horrifying as it is, Franks cremation is also one, because of just how heartbroken his brother is that he's gone.
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*** Frank is clearly projecting for part of that scene -- he never says the poor man should have stayed at the shelter, but with Claire.
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* HilariousInHindsight: At one point, Frank's boss asks a bemused Frank if he has any idea how many cats and dogs there are in America, and proceeds to press Frank into including 'pet appeal', which soon appears in the form of some mice in the Christmas Carol adaptation. While farcical in the film and yet appearing to work, certain pet food companies have since experimented with the concept of including sound and noise to capture the attention of cats and other animals in their commercials.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Carol Kane's Ghost of Christmas Present was by far the most praised character in contemporary reviews, the worst even calling her its sole redeeming feature.
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* SpiritualLicensee: This macabre and modern take on the classic Charles Dickens tale sounds like something Creator/TimBurton would do, which is also further helped by the fact the film's music is done by Burton's ProductionPosse member Creator/DannyElfman.

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* SpiritualLicensee: This macabre and modern take on the classic Charles Dickens tale sounds like something Creator/TimBurton would do, which is also further helped by the fact the film's music is done by Burton's ProductionPosse member Creator/DannyElfman.Creator/DannyElfman and star Creator/BillMurray would actually later work with Burton himself on ''Film/EdWood''.
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* NightmareFuel: Frank's commercial for the production of ''Scrooge'', described as "''The UsefulNotes/MansonFamily Christmas Special''" by Loudermilk. It's later revealed that the spot ''actually killed'' an old lady who watched it.
** NEVER look under the Ghost of Christmas Future's robes. EVER. (You might get a [[ComicallyMissingThePoint lawsuit?]])
*** NightmareRetardant: [[spoiler:The little guys inside him are seen partying with the rest of the ghosts during the big happy festive ending scene.]]
** Hell, that TV for a face. Before the final vision of Frank's death, you can actually see an image of an [[http://thethoughtexperiment.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/future2.jpg evil, red-eyed, zombie-like Frank on the screen]].
*** "The special effects guys went all out on you, didn't they? We're going to [[MoralGuardians get calls]]."
** '''The cremation scene.'''
*** Not helped by Frank's own reaction; particularly haunting is how ''Creator/BillMurray'', the ''comedic funny guy'', actually sounds ''genuinely anguished and terrified for his life'' at one point when he's begging his brother not to let them burn him.
** The scene where Frank hallucinates that a waiter is on fire.
** The frozen homeless man.... just agh!
** The scene with Calvin in a padded cell. Basically, anything Christmas Future shows him.
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* CriticalDissonance: Critics heavily bashed the film on its release for it's dark tone and "mean-spiritedness" (what did they expect from a modern update to a story about a dark, mean-spirited protagonist?), but audiences liked it just fine, making it #1 at the box office and Bill Murray's most successful movie to that point since ''{{Ghostbusters}}''.

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* CriticalDissonance: Critics heavily bashed the film on its release for it's dark tone and "mean-spiritedness" (what did they expect from a modern update to a story about a dark, mean-spirited protagonist?), but audiences liked it just fine, making it #1 at the box office and Bill Murray's most successful movie to that point since ''{{Ghostbusters}}''.''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}''.
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* CriticalDissonance: Critics heavily bashed the film on its release for it's dark tone and "mean-spiritedness" (one wonders what they expected from a modern update to a story about a dark, mean-spirited protagonist), but audiences liked it just fine, making it #1 at the box office and Bill Murray's most successful movie to that point since ''{{Ghostbusters}}''.

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* CriticalDissonance: Critics heavily bashed the film on its release for it's dark tone and "mean-spiritedness" (one wonders what (what did they expected expect from a modern update to a story about a dark, mean-spirited protagonist), protagonist?), but audiences liked it just fine, making it #1 at the box office and Bill Murray's most successful movie to that point since ''{{Ghostbusters}}''.

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* CriticalDissonance: Critics heavily bashed the film on its release for it's dark tone and "mean-spiritedness" (one wonders what they expected from a modern update to a story about a dark, mean-spirited protagonist), but audiences liked it just fine, making it #1 at the box office and Bill Murray's most successful movie to that point since ''{{Ghostbusters}}''.



** A horrifying as it is, Franks cremation is also one as just how heartbroken his brother is that he's gone.

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** A horrifying as it is, Franks cremation is also one as one, because of just how heartbroken his brother is that he's gone.

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