History YMMV / SchindlersList

13th Apr '17 4:02:04 AM CrowTR0bot
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Goetz Otto appeared as a small-time concentration camp guard in this movie. Over time, he would eventually play [[Film/{{Downfall}} Otto Gunsche]] (though in this movie, he [[WebVideo/HitlerRants doesn't inform anyone about anything]]). And later still, would become [[Film/IronSky Fuehrer of the Moon Nazis]].
4th Apr '17 6:02:18 AM sarysa
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* ContrivedCoincidence: In the train scene with the men, right before the womens' train gets sent to Auschwitz by mistake, one of the boys pulls in a sizeable icicle from the train's exterior which they work together to melt. Then they show the exterior of the train -- not only does it lack any snow on the roof, but there are no icicles anywhere on any of the cars EXCEPT outside of that one car's window. It's a pretty huge icicle crop as well.
23rd Mar '17 10:27:09 AM rjd1922
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** Spielberg made several changes from the source material; in particular, he exaggerated Schindler's journey from [[MoneyDearBoy money-grubbing]] JerkAss to hero. In the book and in real life, Schindler was trying to save as many Jews as possible almost from the moment the Final Solution was implemented. He even traveled to Budapest, Hungary and met with representatives of Jewish organizations there to tell them what was happening in Poland as early as 1942.

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** Spielberg made several changes from the source material; in particular, he exaggerated Schindler's journey from [[MoneyDearBoy [[OnlyInItForTheMoney money-grubbing]] JerkAss to hero. In the book and in real life, Schindler was trying to save as many Jews as possible almost from the moment the Final Solution was implemented. He even traveled to Budapest, Hungary and met with representatives of Jewish organizations there to tell them what was happening in Poland as early as 1942.
2nd Mar '17 6:37:40 AM matruz
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* SignatureScene: Certainly has many options, but the liquidation of the ghetto or the girl in the red coat will always stand out.

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* SignatureScene: Certainly has many options, but the liquidation of the ghetto or ghetto, the girl in the red coat and specially the mass burning of corpses will always stand out.
24th Feb '17 7:27:19 AM matruz
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* ValuesDissonance: For some people unfamiliar with Jewish customs, the GraveMarkingScene in which the Schindler's Jews put stones over Schindler's grave is this, as they question why use rocks instead of something else (like flowers) and thus complain of characterizing the [[AllJewsAreCheapskates Jews as cheapskates]]. In reality of course, for Jewish tradition this is meant to be a tremendous sign of respect and reverence to a deceased person.
1st Feb '17 7:56:33 PM AmbarSonofDeshar
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** While not as regularly cited as the above omissions, a few critics (notably Creator/GeneSiskel of the Chicago Tribune) thought Creator/EmbethDavidtz was worthy of a Best Supporting Actress nomination for her work as Helen Hirsch. In most years people would've cried fowl, but because Anna Paquin's win was so monumentally significant, this omission has largely been overlooked.

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** While not as regularly cited as the above omissions, a few critics (notably Creator/GeneSiskel of the Chicago Tribune) thought Creator/EmbethDavidtz was worthy of a Best Supporting Actress nomination for her work as Helen Hirsch. In most years people would've cried fowl, foul, but because Anna Paquin's win was so monumentally significant, this omission has largely been overlooked.
6th Jan '17 6:58:32 AM Pren
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** Another actor who failed to get the role of Schindler was Bruno Ganz, now best known for his [[WebVideo/HitlerRants memetic]] portrayal of Adolph Hitler in ''Film/{{Downfall}}''.
6th Jan '17 6:51:29 AM Pren
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The whole reason that the movie exists. This was a story that '''needed''' to be told about an event in history and the people involved that must never be forgotten. Especially considering that most of what's shown in the film is ''tame'' compared to what really happened.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The whole reason that the movie exists. This was a story that '''needed''' to be told about an event in history and the people involved that must never be forgotten. Especially considering that most of what's shown in the film is ''tame'' compared to what really happened. Spielberg was very reluctant to do it for a while, until Holocaust denial started becoming trendy and he decided he had to do his part to put the truth out. Jewish Gene Siskel specifically thanked him for this in his review with Ebert.
1st Dec '16 7:52:09 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* CompleteMonster: Amon Goeth is the AxCrazy [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] Lieutenant in charge of the liquidation of the Krakow Jewish ghetto and is the overseer of the [[POWCamp Plaszow concentration camp]]. Goeth's true nature is first exposed when he encounters a Jewish forewoman protesting that the foundation of the structure in the camp they're building is unsound, and this will lead to the building's eventual collapse. Goeth's response is for her to be killed in front of the other workers. [[KickTheDog He then orders his men to follow the dead woman's instructions anyway]]. This is merely the first instance in a long line of pointless and unpredictable violence from Goeth. Some of his most infamous crimes are shooting prisoners with a sniper rifle for sport, personally killing twenty-five men in a rage after one man from their barracks managed to escape from his work detail, and laughing at crying parents as he sends away trainloads of their children to be gassed. [[BaitTheDog Every time a possible flicker of humanity is exposed in Goeth, it is quickly subverted then extinguished]]. When Oskar Schindler tries to convince Goeth that true power is mercy, Goeth briefly tries out being merciful, even sparing the life of a Jewish boy who was unable to clean the stains in Goeth's bathtub. But, unable to really understand the power of mercy that Schindler has described, Goeth decides to kill the boy anyway. When he finds himself [[VillainousCrush attracted to his Jewish maid, Helen]], he attempts to clumsily come on to her, only to eventually blame her for his own sexual feelings and savagely beat her afterwards. In the end, it seems like Goeth is a pure sociopath driven only by his erratic whims, only able to ape the basic mannerisms of a human being. He even seems [[EvilCannotComprehendGood unable to understand basic compassion and human decency]] when confronted with it.

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* CompleteMonster: Amon Goeth is the AxCrazy [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] Lieutenant in charge of the liquidation of the Krakow Jewish ghetto and is the overseer of the [[POWCamp Plaszow concentration camp]]. Goeth's true nature is first exposed when he encounters a Jewish forewoman protesting that the foundation of the structure in the camp they're building is unsound, and this will lead to the building's eventual collapse. Goeth's response is for her to be killed in front of the other workers. [[KickTheDog He then orders his men to follow the dead woman's instructions anyway]]. This is merely the first instance in a long line of pointless and unpredictable violence from Goeth. Some of his most infamous crimes are shooting prisoners with a sniper rifle [[ForTheEvulz for sport, sport]], personally killing twenty-five men in a rage after one man from their barracks managed to escape from his work detail, and laughing at crying parents as he sends away trainloads of their children to be gassed. [[BaitTheDog Every time a possible flicker of humanity is exposed in Goeth, it is quickly subverted then extinguished]]. When Oskar Schindler tries to convince Goeth that true power is mercy, Goeth briefly tries out being merciful, even sparing the life of a Jewish boy who was unable to clean the stains in Goeth's bathtub. But, unable to really understand the power of mercy that Schindler has described, Goeth decides to kill the boy anyway. When he finds himself [[VillainousCrush attracted to his Jewish maid, Helen]], he attempts to clumsily come on to her, only to eventually blame her for his own sexual feelings and savagely beat her afterwards. In the end, it seems like Goeth is a pure sociopath driven only by his erratic whims, only able to ape the basic mannerisms of a human being. He even seems [[EvilCannotComprehendGood unable to understand basic compassion and human decency]] when confronted with it.
3rd Oct '16 4:11:29 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Amon Goeth is the AxCrazy [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] Lieutenant in charge of the liquidation of the Krakow Jewish ghetto and is the overseer of the [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust Plaszow concentration camp]]. Goeth's true nature is first exposed when he encounters a Jewish forewoman protesting that the foundation of the structure in the camp they're building is unsound, and this will lead to the building's eventual collapse. Goeth's response is for her to be killed in front of the other workers. [[KickTheDog He then orders his men to follow the dead woman's instructions anyway]]. This is merely the first instance in a long line of pointless and unpredictable violence from Goeth. Some of his most infamous crimes are shooting prisoners with a sniper rifle for sport, personally killing twenty-five men in a rage after one man from their barracks managed to escape from his work detail, and laughing at crying parents as he sends away trainloads of their children to be gassed. [[BaitTheDog Every time a possible flicker of humanity is exposed in Goeth, it is quickly subverted then extinguished]]. When Oskar Schindler tries to convince Goeth that true power is mercy, Goeth briefly tries out being merciful, even sparing the life of a Jewish boy who was unable to clean the stains in Goeth's bathtub. But, unable to really understand the power of mercy that Schindler has described, Goeth decides to kill the boy anyway. When he finds himself [[VillainousCrush attracted to his Jewish maid, Helen]], he attempts to clumsily come on to her, only to eventually blame her for his own sexual feelings and savagely beat her afterwards. In the end, it seems like Goeth is a pure sociopath driven only by his erratic whims, only able to ape the basic mannerisms of a human being. He even seems [[EvilCannotComprehendGood unable to understand basic compassion and human decency]] when confronted with it.

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* CompleteMonster: Amon Goeth is the AxCrazy [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] Lieutenant in charge of the liquidation of the Krakow Jewish ghetto and is the overseer of the [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust [[POWCamp Plaszow concentration camp]]. Goeth's true nature is first exposed when he encounters a Jewish forewoman protesting that the foundation of the structure in the camp they're building is unsound, and this will lead to the building's eventual collapse. Goeth's response is for her to be killed in front of the other workers. [[KickTheDog He then orders his men to follow the dead woman's instructions anyway]]. This is merely the first instance in a long line of pointless and unpredictable violence from Goeth. Some of his most infamous crimes are shooting prisoners with a sniper rifle for sport, personally killing twenty-five men in a rage after one man from their barracks managed to escape from his work detail, and laughing at crying parents as he sends away trainloads of their children to be gassed. [[BaitTheDog Every time a possible flicker of humanity is exposed in Goeth, it is quickly subverted then extinguished]]. When Oskar Schindler tries to convince Goeth that true power is mercy, Goeth briefly tries out being merciful, even sparing the life of a Jewish boy who was unable to clean the stains in Goeth's bathtub. But, unable to really understand the power of mercy that Schindler has described, Goeth decides to kill the boy anyway. When he finds himself [[VillainousCrush attracted to his Jewish maid, Helen]], he attempts to clumsily come on to her, only to eventually blame her for his own sexual feelings and savagely beat her afterwards. In the end, it seems like Goeth is a pure sociopath driven only by his erratic whims, only able to ape the basic mannerisms of a human being. He even seems [[EvilCannotComprehendGood unable to understand basic compassion and human decency]] when confronted with it.
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