History YMMV / SamuraiWarriors

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* ContestedSequel: The English dub for ''3'' falls under this category, particularly the English voice actors' lackluster performance, inevitably making many characters' voices contain a tint of DullSurprise (which sounds incredibly unfitting for spirited Japanese {{Samurai}}), among other flaws. However, compared to the second game's English dub, some of the voiceovers are considerably better, yet it speaks volume when the fourth game's localization got rid of an English entirely.

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* ContestedSequel: The English dub for ''3'' falls under this category, particularly the English voice actors' lackluster performance, inevitably performances, making many characters' voices contain a tint of DullSurprise (which sounds incredibly unfitting for spirited Japanese {{Samurai}}), among other flaws. However, compared to the second game's cheesy English dub, some of the voiceovers are considerably better, yet it speaks volume when superior from an acting standpoint, and many fans are unhappy that the fourth game's title's localization got rid of an English entirely.stripped out the dub altogether.
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* AngstWhatAngst: Contrasting her reaction in ''3: Xtreme Legends'', Gracia is surprisingly not too saddened upon hearing of Mitsuhide Akechi's death in ''4''. During the "Battle of Hiketa" where she sides with Motochika Chōsokabe against the Hashiba Army (who were responsible for her father's death), she will only say that she wants to continue her father's legacy. While Gracia DOES show a little angst in ''4-II'' when she receives the news of Mitsuhide's passing, with everyone labelling him a traitorous criminal, it lasts roughly a few seconds, and she's instantly back to being cheery.

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* AngstWhatAngst: Contrasting her reaction in ''3: Xtreme Legends'', Gracia is surprisingly not too saddened upon hearing of Mitsuhide Akechi's death in ''4''. During the "Battle of Hiketa" where she sides with Motochika Chōsokabe Chosokabe against the Hashiba Army (who were responsible for her father's death), she will only say that she wants to continue her father's legacy. While Gracia DOES show a little angst in ''4-II'' when she receives the news of Mitsuhide's passing, with everyone labelling him a traitorous criminal, it lasts roughly a few seconds, and she's instantly back to being cheery.



* ContestedSequel: The English dub for ''3'' falls under this category, particularly the English voice actors' lackluster performance, inevitably making many characters' voices contain a tint of DullSurprise (which sounds incredibly unfitting for spirited Japanese {{Samurai}}), among other flaws. However, compared to the second game's English dub, some of the voiceovers are considerably better, yet it speaks volume when the fourth game's localization got rid of an English dub entirely.

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* ContestedSequel: The English dub for ''3'' falls under this category, particularly the English voice actors' lackluster performance, inevitably making many characters' voices contain a tint of DullSurprise (which sounds incredibly unfitting for spirited Japanese {{Samurai}}), among other flaws. However, compared to the second game's English dub, some of the voiceovers are considerably better, yet it speaks volume when the fourth game's localization got rid of an English dub entirely.



** Yukimura Sanada and Zhao Yun: {{Bishounen}}, BladeOnAStick-wielding {{Mascot}}s of their respective series. Like Nobunaga/Cao Cao, this also gets mentioned in the crossover but pairing the two of them up in the opening CG movie.
* CrazyAwesome: Ujiyasu Hōjō; he'd have to be in order to pull off some of the insane stuff he does.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Yukimura's last stage, the "Siege of Osaka Castle", in ''3''; just fight until [[spoiler:Hideyori Toyotomi is killed by Hattori Hanzō]] and simply listen.

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** Yukimura Sanada and Zhao Yun: {{Bishounen}}, BladeOnAStick-wielding {{Mascot}}s of their respective series. Like Nobunaga/Cao Cao, this also gets mentioned in the crossover crossover, but pairing is given greater emphasis when the two of them are seen partnering up in the opening CG movie.
movie, even belonging to the same faction.
* CrazyAwesome: Ujiyasu Hōjō; Hojo; he'd have to be in order to pull off some of the insane stuff he does.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Yukimura's last stage, the "Siege of Osaka Castle", in ''3''; just fight until [[spoiler:Hideyori Toyotomi is killed by Hattori Hanzō]] Hanzo]] and simply listen.



** Ranmaru Mori for [[DudeLooksLikeALady obvious reasons]]; case in point, there was so much outrage after he was DemotedToExtra in ''2''. Since then, Ranmaur's gradually reclaimed his relevance in later installments.
** Motonari Mōri: he wasn't officially revealed for the initial line-up of ''3'' until ''a day before the release'', nor does he get mixed in with the whole FoeYay[=/=]HoYay stuff among other members of the roster. His character design renders him nothing close to a ''Warriors''-styled {{Bishounen}} (despite being middle-aged), yet fan artists love his appearance.

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** Ranmaru Mori for [[DudeLooksLikeALady obvious reasons]]; case in point, there was so much outrage after he was DemotedToExtra in ''2''. Since then, Ranmaur's Ranmaru's gradually reclaimed his relevance in later installments.
** Motonari Mōri: Mori: he wasn't officially revealed for the initial line-up of ''3'' until ''a day before the release'', nor does he get mixed in with the whole FoeYay[=/=]HoYay stuff among other members of the roster. His character design renders him nothing close to a ''Warriors''-styled {{Bishounen}} (despite being middle-aged), yet fan artists love his appearance.



** Riding at top speed with ''Matzukaze'', the strongest and fastest mount in the first game with the best overall stats, will allow any character to pull a OneHitKill over anything the stallion can mow over.

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** Riding at top speed with ''Matzukaze'', the strongest and fastest mount in the first game with the best overall stats, will allow any character to pull a OneHitKill over anything the stallion can mow over.down.



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: When Koshōshō was revealed for the line-up in ''4'', Japanese players were really annoyed at her character design and her list of [[ManipulativeBastard manipulated men]] includes "''Sengoku Musou'' fans" that were pissed she made it onto the roster with an incredibly outrageous appearance, when other popular choices like Choukei Miyoshi or Motochika's wife Nana didn't make the cut. However, Western players consider Koshōshō's overexaggerated aspects utterly fabulous, making her many a player's favorite.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: When Koshōshō Koshosho was revealed for the line-up in ''4'', Japanese players were really annoyed at her character design and her list of [[ManipulativeBastard manipulated men]] includes "''Sengoku Musou'' "''Samurai Warriors'' fans" that were pissed she made it onto the roster with an incredibly outrageous appearance, when other popular choices like Choukei Miyoshi or Motochika's wife Nana didn't make the cut. However, Western players consider Koshōshō's Koshosho's overexaggerated aspects utterly fabulous, making her many a player's favorite.



** [[SwissArmyWeapon Hidden cannons in spears]], ancient ''Ofuda'' scrolls that fire {{Frickin Laser Beam}}s, {{Ninja}} with ExtendableArms...like its ''Dynasty Warriors'' counterpart, it's best to simply turn off one's brain while playing this series.

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** [[SwissArmyWeapon Hidden cannons in spears]], ancient ''Ofuda'' scrolls that fire {{Frickin Laser Beam}}s, FrickinLaserBeams, {{Ninja}} with ExtendableArms...like its ''Dynasty Warriors'' counterpart, it's best to simply turn off one's brain while playing this series.



** Hisahide was ill-received for his ridiculously over-the-top character design (even by ''Samurai Warriors'' standards), [[CardCarryingVillain general pretentiousness]], the undue importance put on his presence in the Oda camp (for some reason, he suddenly takes credit to Hideyoshi Toyotomi's accomplishment in "Kanegasaki" in the Oda Legend chapter, though it's much to Hisahide's chagrin) and soaking up what some feel to be a disproportionate amount of screen-time.

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** Hisahide Matsunaga was ill-received for his ridiculously over-the-top character design (even by ''Samurai Warriors'' standards), [[CardCarryingVillain general pretentiousness]], the undue importance put on his presence in the Oda camp (for some reason, he suddenly takes credit to Hideyoshi Toyotomi's accomplishment in "Kanegasaki" in the Oda Legend chapter, though it's much to Hisahide's chagrin) and soaking up what some feel to be a disproportionate amount of screen-time.screen-time (see {{Sequelitis}} below).



** Koei Tecmo has been known to do some "one-upping" of their rivalry with Creator/{{Capcom}} when it comes to [[VideoGame/SengokuBasara their iteration]] of the HackAndSlash UsefulNotes/JidaiGeki video game, be it temporarily making two poster boys of the latter (Masamune Date and Keiji Maeda) take villainous roles in ''Warriors Orochi'' or the aforementioned Hisahide savviness. This is truly emphasized when the publisher announced ''Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru'' as a response to Capcom's ''Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den'', where both {{Spin Off}}s feature Yukimura as the protagonist. However, Tecmo Koei ensures ''sanada Maru'' is vastly different by adding Yukimura's father Masayuki Sanda as a {{Deuteragonist}}; furthermore, when Capcom stated there won't be any new female characters in ''Yukimura-Den'', making it akin to a [[CastFullOfPrettyBoys sausage-fest]], Tecmo Koei revealed ''Sanada Maru'' will have an important female character playable during the Seige of Osaka Castle: Nagamasa/Oichi's daughter Chacha.
* ThatOneLevel:
** In ''Katana'', the second Saika mission with Ina. You have to defeat 15 enemies [including transport units] in 4 minutes (slightly extendable via the Magatama item). The ninjas are invincible when they prepare to teleport out of your sight. Curiously enough, the game actively avoids LuckBasedMission here and instead hits GuideDangIt. How? Any specific enemy appears ONLY when you enter a certain intersection from a certain direction. Once this is realized, The level becomes more a case of plotting out your exact route through the map so as to get the most amount of ninjas to appear in the shortest amount of time.
** Runner-up is the last mission in Fuma's second stage - If you take any damage, [[FakeDifficulty the stage ends and you automatically receive a D rank.]]
** Sakon Shima's Dream is a pain even on Easy. Why does it count as if Ieyasu escaped if only one of his doubles (And you KNOW it is a double) does?! Added Hideyoshi, Mitsuhide and Tadakatsu have this strange habit of getting to your main camp.
** For anyone going through ''4'' in the attempt at getting rare weapons, this applies less to the levels overall but any character whose weapon requirements are incredibly ill thought out; in particular anyone who has to have the weapon mission trigger in a tight timeframe in a level with a ''lot'' of dialogue. The problem is that the timer doesn't stop for dialogue and events, meaning the best way to race the clock is by using an interim save when a message starts and reloading lets you skip the message, which drags out the process considerably, and even then- it's not a guarantee.
** Mitsunari's final stage in ''4-II'': If any enemy officer enters Western Army main camp, [[NonStandardGameOver you automatically lose]].
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The whole Free Mode Only Characters debacle in [=SW3=], in which the story campaigns of several returning characters were left out.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** KOEI ignored the reason Gracia's famous in the first place in favor of an original story with her and Magoichi in her first appearance. TheOtherWiki has a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosokawa_Gracia good article on her actual history.]] They pay a little more attention to her history in [=SW3:XL=], though they still skip on the [[JapaneseChristian reason she's famous.]] Chances are it's to avoid any religious controversy. The only hints to know her Christian background is her foreign name (instead of her default name Tamako) and her outlandish fashion style (evoking ElegantGothicLolita)
** A large portion of the cast also benefits from not mentioning the Christianity incursion, as Hideyoshi and Ieyasu were also against it and [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade it saves Kiyomasa from being portrayed as a brutal pro-Buddhist guy who'd order his men to cut the bellies of Christian women and kill their infant babies inside.]] This also means it is unlikely that [[UsefulNotes/AmakusaShiro Amakusa Shiro Tokisada]] will ever be included in this game.
** KOEI also deliberately avoid any references of Hideyoshi's infamous and disastrous Korean Campaign, not just to 'whitewash' Hideyoshi, but because they probably don't wanna piss the Koreans off.
** It's very possible Koei doesn't plan to include non-Japanese samurai like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_%28sailor%29 Anjin Miura/William Adams]] and, above all [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke Yasuke]], a black, ''African'' samurai, albeit in Yasuke's case, this is for avoiding UnfortunateImplications, as he was serving under the orders of ''Nobunaga Oda'', and [[EvilOverlord everyone knows how Nobunaga is depicted traditionally]]. Oddly enough, Yasuke ''does'' appear in ''VideoGame/NobunagasAmbition'' as one of the many ronin Nobunaga and any other daimyo can recruit in the game, while William/Anjin would went on to star [[VideoGame/{{Nioh}} his own game from the same company.]]
* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Katsuie's relationship with Oichi (historically, it's rumored that they were engaged to be married before Nobunaga decided that a political alliance with Nagamasa was more profitable) is severely downplayed to the point of it being nearly non-existant in favor of her relationship with Nagamasa. However, if fighting the Battle of Shizugatake (Katsuie vs. Hideyoshi to "succeed" Nobunaga) she is on Katsuie's side.
* ViewerGenderConfusion:
** It's easy to mistake Ranmaru Mori for a girl and it is somewhat of a a running gag in-universe. He uses female motion sets, is voiced by a woman in the Japanese games (and in English as well, starting from the second), and is frequently used to induce UnsettlingGenderReveal on ChivalrousPervert Magoichi Saika and other such characters, or just make fun of that girly appearance (like setting him up in a beauty contest).
** Due to his young age, relatively high pitched voice, and somewhat androgynous clothing, this happens with Hanbei.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: Those feathers Nobunaga (pitch black) and Mitsuhide (pure white) keep shedding all over the place.
* TheWoobie: Many characters could be considered this depending on what story you are playing through. Ranmaru in [=SW1=] is a good example; everyone he cares about is trying to kill each other.
-->'''Nohime''': " Ranmaru... did you ever know.. happiness?"
* {{Woolseyism}}:
** In the Japanese version, defeating an enemy general makes the character exclaim "Tekishou, uchitottari!" AKA "Enemy Officer Defeated!". ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriors'' mostly goes with direct translation (that is until the 5th game's sub/dub), but VideoGame/SamuraiWarriors translates with variations to the point that by the 2nd game, NOBODY ever said exactly "Enemy Officer Defeated!" when they defeat a general. In the 3rd game, each character has two variable "Enemy officer defeated" lines with the first one being the standard "Tekishou uchitottari" and the second one tailored to the character's personality.
** Amusingly, since ''4'' does away with dubbing, you can now clearly hear that almost every officer still uses the basic exclamation; however, despite that, the speech bubbles for nearly everyone still uses a tailored victory cry anyway.
** Some characters even have certain portions of their names cut out during their battle announcements; a notable example is Mitsuhide's nickname of "Juubei" (where he goes Akechi "Juubei" Mitsuhide).
* WTHCastingAgency: Your mileage may vary, as it depends on which version you played first; it certainly doesn't help that the roster gets cleaned out with every numeral. Most seem to agree that Keiji's VA in ''[=SW2=]'' was a definite downgrade from his [[Creator/SteveBlum well-loved one]] in ''[=SW1=].'' Averted with the subtitles-only ''4'', though now it's matter of whether or not you enjoy certain Japanese VA delivery styles.
** Hilariously enough, his English voice in ''Warriors Orochi 1'' and ''Samurai Warriors 3'' is a [[Creator/RogerCraigSmith VA]] who voiced [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog someone else]] in that exact same type of voice his 2nd game VA used.

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** Koei Tecmo has been known to do some "one-upping" of their rivalry with Creator/{{Capcom}} when it comes to [[VideoGame/SengokuBasara their iteration]] of the HackAndSlash UsefulNotes/JidaiGeki video game, be it temporarily making two poster boys of the latter (Masamune Date and Keiji Maeda) take villainous roles in ''Warriors Orochi'' or the aforementioned Hisahide savviness.[[SpotlightStealingSquad taking up more of the story than historically relevant individuals]]. This is truly emphasized when the publisher announced ''Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru'' as a response to Capcom's ''Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den'', where both {{Spin Off}}s feature Yukimura as the protagonist. However, Tecmo Koei ensures ''sanada ''Ssanada Maru'' is vastly different by adding Yukimura's father Masayuki Sanda as a {{Deuteragonist}}; furthermore, when Capcom stated there won't be any new female characters in ''Yukimura-Den'', making it akin to a [[CastFullOfPrettyBoys sausage-fest]], Tecmo Koei revealed ''Sanada Maru'' will have an important female character playable during the Seige of Osaka Castle: Nagamasa/Oichi's daughter Nagamasa and Oichi's daughter, Chacha.
* ThatOneLevel:
ThatOneLevel
** In ''Katana'', the second Magoichi Saika mission with Ina. You have to Ina: players must defeat 15 enemies [including (including transport units] units) in 4 minutes (slightly extendable via the Magatama ''Magatama'' item). The ninjas are invincible when best enemies to defeat would be {{Ninja}}s, except they're {{Nigh Invulnerab|ility}}le whenever they prepare to teleport out of your sight. Curiously enough, the game actively avoids LuckBasedMission here and instead hits GuideDangIt. How? Any specific enemy appears ONLY when you players enter a certain intersection from a certain direction. Once this is realized, The occurs, the level becomes more a case of plotting out your an exact route through the map so as to get the most amount of ninjas {{Ninja}}s to appear in the shortest amount of time.
** Runner-up is the last mission in Kotaro Fuma's second stage - If you take any damage, damage whatsoever and [[FakeDifficulty the stage ends and you automatically ends; players will receive a D rank.]]
"D" rank]].
** Sakon Shima's Dream Sakon's dream stage is a pain even on Easy. Why does "Easy" difficulty: why should it count as if that Ieyasu escaped if only one of his doubles (And you KNOW it (and players ''will know'' who is a the double) does?! Added does? Adding to this is a strange habit of Hideyoshi, Mitsuhide and Tadakatsu have this strange habit of getting to your the allied main camp.
** For anyone going through ''4'' in the attempt at getting rare weapons, this applies less to the levels overall overall, but to any character whose weapon requirements are incredibly ill thought out; ill-thoughtout; in particular particular, anyone who has to have the weapon mission trigger in a tight timeframe time-frame in a level with a ''lot'' of dialogue. The problem is that the timer doesn't stop for dialogue and events, meaning the best way to race against the clock is by using an interim save a SuspendSave when a message starts and reloading lets you starts, then re-loading the save to skip the message, which message. This drags out the process considerably, and even then- then it's not a guarantee.
total guarantee the method will work.
** Mitsunari's final stage in ''4-II'': If if any enemy officer enters the Western Army Army's main camp, [[NonStandardGameOver you automatically lose]].
it's an automatic game over]].
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The whole Free Mode Only Characters "Free Mode"-only characters debacle in [=SW3=], in which the ''Samurai Warriors 3'', where story campaigns of several returning characters were are left out.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot
** KOEI Koei Tecmo ignored the reason Gracia's famous well-known in the first place in favor of an original story with her and Magoichi in her first appearance. appearance for ''2: Xtreme Legends''; TheOtherWiki has a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosokawa_Gracia good article on her actual history.]] They pay history]]. ''3: Xtreme Legends'' certainly pays a little more attention to her history in [=SW3:XL=], history, though they it still skip skips on the [[JapaneseChristian reason why she's famous.]] historically famous]]. Chances are it's the publisher wants to avoid any sort of religious controversy. The controversy and the only hints clues to know her Christian background is are her foreign name (instead of her default name Tamako) "Tamako") and her outlandish fashion style (evoking ElegantGothicLolita)
ElegantGothicLolita).
** A large portion of the cast also benefits from not mentioning the Christianity incursion, historical Christian incursion into Japan as Hideyoshi and Ieyasu were also against it and [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade it saves Kiyomasa Kato from being portrayed as a brutal pro-Buddhist guy supporter who'd order his men to cut the bellies of Christian women and kill their infant babies inside.]] inside]]. This also means it is it's unlikely that [[UsefulNotes/AmakusaShiro Amakusa Shiro Tokisada]] will ever be included in this game.
''Samurai Warriors''.
** KOEI Koei Tecmo also deliberately avoid avoids any references of Hideyoshi's infamous and disastrous Korean Campaign, "Korean Campaign", not just to 'whitewash' "whitewash" Hideyoshi, but because they probably don't wanna piss the Koreans off.
to avoid simply pissing off Korean players.
** It's very possible Koei doesn't plan to include While there have been non-Japanese samurai like {{Samurai}} historically (such as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_%28sailor%29 Anjin Miura/William Adams]] and, above all Adams]]), it's possible Koei Tecmo won't include them in order to avoid UnfortunateImplications. Take [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke Yasuke]], for example: a historically black, ''African'' samurai, albeit in Yasuke's case, this is for avoiding UnfortunateImplications, as he was African {{Samurai}} serving under the orders of ''Nobunaga Oda'', Nobunaga and [[EvilOverlord everyone knows how Nobunaga is depicted traditionally]]. traditionally in fiction]]. Oddly enough, Yasuke ''does'' appear in ''VideoGame/NobunagasAmbition'' as one of the many ronin {{Ronin}} Nobunaga and any other daimyo ''daimyo'' can recruit in the game, while William/Anjin but compared to ''Samurai Warriors'', not a lot of players would went be aware of this, given how incredibly niche ''Nobunaga's Ambition'' is. Meanwhile, Anjin/William would go on to star [[VideoGame/{{Nioh}} in his own game video game]] from the same company.]]
company, no less.
* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Katsuie's Katsuie Shibata's relationship with Oichi (historically, it's rumored that they were engaged to be married before Nobunaga decided that a political alliance with Nagamasa was more profitable) is severely downplayed to the point of it being nearly non-existant in favor of her relationship with Nagamasa. However, if when fighting at the Battle "Battle of Shizugatake Shizugatake" (Katsuie vs. Hideyoshi to "succeed" Nobunaga) she is on Katsuie's side.
Nobunaga), Oichi will side with Katsuie.
* ViewerGenderConfusion:
ViewerGenderConfusion
** It's easy to mistake Ranmaru Mori for a girl and it is somewhat of a a running gag in-universe. He girl, particularly when it's also an InUniverse RunningGag: he uses female motion sets, [[CrossDressingVoice is voiced by a woman in the Japanese games (and in and English as well, versions]] (the latter starting from the second), second) and is frequently used to induce UnsettlingGenderReveal on ChivalrousPervert Magoichi Saika and other such characters, characters or just simply to make fun of that girly his feminine appearance (like (such as setting him up in a beauty contest).
** Due to his young age, relatively high pitched voice, high-[itched voice and somewhat wearing androgynous clothing, this happens with Hanbei.
Hanbei Takenaka just as often.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: Those The feathers on the oufits of Nobunaga (pitch black) and Mitsuhide (pure white) [[PerpetualMolt keep shedding all over the place.
place]].
* TheWoobie: Many characters could be considered this depending on what story you for which installment players are playing going through. Ranmaru in [=SW1=] the first game is a good example; example - everyone he cares about is trying to kill each other.
-->'''Nohime''': " Ranmaru... -->'''No''': "Ranmaru...did you ever know.. know...happiness?"
* {{Woolseyism}}:
{{Woolseyism}}
** In the Japanese version, defeating an enemy general officer makes the character exclaim "Tekishou, uchitottari!" AKA "Enemy Officer Defeated!". ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriors'' mostly "''Tekishou, uchitottari''!" ("Enemy officer defeated!"). While ''Dynasty Warriors'' usually goes with a direct translation (that is until the 5th game's sub/dub), but VideoGame/SamuraiWarriors (until ''Dynasty Warriors 5''), ''Samurai Warriors'' translates with variations to the point that by the 2nd second game, NOBODY no character ever said exactly "Enemy Officer Defeated!" uses the line again when they defeat a general. defeating an officer. In the 3rd game, ''Samurai warriors 3'', each character has two variable "Enemy officer defeated" lines with the first one being the standard "Tekishou uchitottari" one and the second one tailored to the character's personality.
** Amusingly, since ''4'' does away with dubbing, you an English dub, players can now clearly hear that almost every officer still uses the basic exclamation; however, despite that, the speech bubbles for nearly everyone still uses a tailored victory cry anyway.
cry.
** Some characters even have certain portions of their names cut out during their battle announcements; announcements: a notable example is Mitsuhide's nickname of "Juubei", as he goes by Mitsuhide "Juubei" (where he goes Akechi "Juubei" Mitsuhide).
Akechi.
* WTHCastingAgency: Your mileage may vary, as it This depends on which version you played most players have tried first; it certainly doesn't help that the roster gets cleaned out with every numeral. major installment. Most seem to agree that Keiji's VA voice actor in ''[=SW2=]'' ''Samurai Warriors 2'' was a definite downgrade from his [[Creator/SteveBlum well-loved well-beloved one]] in ''[=SW1=].'' the first game. Averted with the subtitles-only ''4'', though now it's a matter of whether or not you players can enjoy certain the vocal delivery styles from Japanese VA delivery styles.
voice actors.
** Hilariously enough, his Keiji's English voice actor in ''Warriors Orochi 1'' and ''Samurai Warriors 3'' and ''Warriors Orochi'' is a [[Creator/RogerCraigSmith VA]] man]] who voiced [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog someone else]] in that the exact same type of voice his 2nd game VA used.
''Samurai Warriors 2'' voice actor used.
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* AngstWhatAngst: Contrasting her reaction in ''[=3:XL=]'', Gracia is surprisingly not too saddened upon hearing Mitsuhide's death in ''4''. During Battle of Hiketa where she sides with Chosokabe against Hashiba Army (who were responsible for her father's death), she will only says that she wants to continue her father's legacy. She DID show a little angst in 4-II, when she heard that Mitsuhide died and everybody labelled him a traitorous criminal. But... that went away in a few seconds and she's back being cheery.
* BadassDecay: Yoshimoto, when compared to his historical self. Real-life Imagawa Yoshimoto is actually pretty menacing, cunning and effective as a daimyo, rivaling even Shingen and Kenshin. But [[NeverLiveItDown because he's the guy beaten brutally through sheer luck by Nobunaga on the latter's first big battle]] (and then kickstarted the Three Unifier's era of the Sengoku period), he becomes a more or less incompetent buffoon, the equivalent of [[VideoGame/DynastyWarriors Zhang Jiao]] in the game. In ''4'', Koei tries to mitigate this by showing that Yoshimoto has a dark, serious side that rarely comes out and shows how terrifying and dark he is as a successful daimyo.
* BrokenBase: Fans are divided on whether character-specific or force-specific story modes are for the better. The latter is evidently easier to implement, but thanks to the new characters often being cast as a SpotlightStealingSquad, it's left some existing warriors feeling insignificant.
* ContestedSequel: Third game's English dub falls under this category, especially regarding many of its English VA's lackluster performance, which inevitably made many characters' voice contain DullSurprise (which sound so unfitting for spirited Japanese samurai), among other flaws. However, compared with the second game's English dub, some of English voices are considerably slightly better. Yet, it speaks volume that the fourth game's English version no longer has dub, only subtitle.
* CounterpartComparison:
** Nobunaga and Cao Cao are similar to the point of ''requiring'' a reference in the crossover.
** Also Yukimura and Zhao Yun, for both being the Bishōnen, spear-wielding poster boys of their respective series. This too gets a mention in [[VideoGame Warriors Orochi]] similar to Oda and Cao Cao above.
* CrazyAwesome: Ujiyasu Hojo. He'd have to be to pull off some of the insane stuff he does.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Yukimura's last stage, Siege of the Osaka Castle in [=SW3=]. Fight until [[spoiler:Hideyori is killed by Hattori Hanzou]] and then listen.
** Naomasa's theme in 4-II, titled Belief, is an absolutely gorgeous and heart-pounding track!
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Motonari Mouri. He wasn't officially revealed until one day before the release, didn't get mixed in the whole Ho Yay/Foe Yay stuff either and he is also nothing close to a Musou bishounen. Yet fan artists just love him.
** In a popularity poll coinciding with ''Samurai Warriors 3: Empires'' Sakon Shima wound up being the fourth most popular character behind only Mitsunari Ishida (one of the series' most important characters), Yukimura Sanada (the poster boy), and Gracia (who probably also counts as a darkhorse).
** Ranmaru Mori; there was much outrage after he was DemotedToExtra in ''2''. He's gradually reclaimed his relevance in later titles, possibly owed to his popularity.
* FirstInstallmentWins: The first title was critically well received in the west, despite the ''Warriors'' series usually scoring predictably low with reviewers. The story and voice acting were praised, and the subtle, but notable departures from ''Dynasty's'' fighting mechanics were seen favourably. Fans are more divided on whether the sequels improved upon the original, or never matched it.
* GameBreaker:
** Spears in ''Katana'' can critical against nearly every enemy in the game, 1-hit-killing all but a select few of them without any stat raising.
** In 2 Empires, we have the wheel formation. Not only does it give you the normal speed and morale boost if it's the better formation, but it also '''Doubles Your Attack And Defense''', effectively turning almost any battle into a {{curbstompbattle}} if your enemy doesn't have anything to counter it (which is a 1 in 3 chance for every formation they still have).
** Also the five scrolls in the first game. If you equip all five, your elemental attacks becomes OneHitKill attacks that severely damages officers. On a similar note the "Demon" element from the second game, which was changed in Xtreme Legends.
** Matzukaze, Keiji's horse, will make you OneHitKill anything that your ride over if going at top speed.
** In [=SW1=], Okuni's charge attacks (notably charge 2) possess ridiculous amounts of power.
** In the second installment, Musashi is hilariously broken for three reasons. Firstly, he has the personal skill Reversal. Whereas other characters can be stunlocked if struck several times in succession, Musashi can just hit the charge button and interrupt the combo to send his attackers-turned-victims flying. Secondly, he has an ability that stuns enemies and gives him free Musou, which means that he has unlimited {{Limit Break}}s at his beck and call. Also, did we mention that he has one of the most devastating Musou attacks in the game?
** Tadakatsu Honda is known as this series' Lu Bu, but the Interlude compares him to Zhange Fei, however he is mildly faster than both (probably having above average speed between SW characters) and all his attacks causes absurdly high damage! Not only that but his two Specials allows him to stun enemies and regain 1/2 of musou and to cause contact damage on enemies. His Musou can clean a room in SECONDS.
** The fourth game introduces the Stimulus skill. All the rare weapons carry it at maximum strength, and it can be found on random weapons at higher difficulties. What does it do? Helps increase leveling speed, and boost parameters beyond the level cap. The latter bit is what makes it such a coveted ability on top of being utterly broken. What it means is that a character who is already maxed at lvl.50 can now keep "leveling" i.e.- gain experience even though your level won't change and keep gaining stats until their all maxed out. Now that doesn't really sound like much, however, the trick is that in this iteration leveling up grants the character ''every power up in the game'' '''all at once''' for an extended period of time. This allows a character to enter the boosted ''leveled up'' state despite technically not being able to level, and ''stay'' in that state provided there's enough enemies and experience to go around; greatly helped with the item that increases the drop rate for exp. scrolls. Put it all together, and you can wipe an entire battlefield clean in a matter or ''minutes'' even at Nightmare difficulty.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: When Koshoushou was revealed, the Japanese were really annoyed at her design and her list of [[ManipulativeBastard manipulated men]] includes 'Sengoku Musou fans', that were pissed that she made it in with her outrageous design when other more popular choices like Miyoshi Choukei or even Motochika's wife Nana didn't make the cut. Western-wise, she's considered to be so utterly fabulous that some are considering to make her their favorites.
* HilariousInHindsight: The marriage between Creator/RyotaroOkiayu (Motochika) and Creator/AiMaeda (Oichi) could give hilarious vibes that Oichi cheated on Nagamasa for Motochika, while for all we know, the Nagamasa-Oichi love story is pretty well-known for its circle. [[Creator/HiroshiKamiya Oh, and Nagamasa is in despair for that]].
* HoYay: See HoYay.{{HoYay/SamuraiWarriors}}
* MoralEventHorizon: Mitsuhide's betrayal is usually triggered by Nobunaga going too far and crossing one in his eyes. This is something of a HistoricalHeroUpgrade on his part; the real Mitsuhide's motives for turning on his master are actually quite contentious among historians, some of whom suggest it was down to [[{{Revenge}} revenge]] or ambition.
* MostWonderfulSound: The sound that accompanies downing an enemy officer, especially when said officer is part of a mission, followed by the triumphant, "Tekishou, uchitottari!"
* MST3KMantra:
** Spears in cannons that fire laser beams, ancient Nipponese shoop-da-woops from Ofuda scrolls, ninja with arms straight out of Gumby... just turn your brain off before playing. For your own sake.
** The plate mail armor may seem like this but it is in fact TruthInTelevision. Armor in the late 16th century Japan was influenced by Western plate armors after things like muskets start to show up. Nobunaga himself was historically a foreign artifact fanatic and had worn quite a few so called "Nanban" style armors in occasions.
* NarmCharm: As per ''Warriors'' games tradition, this is bound to happen sooner or later. Also, since ''Samurai Warriors'' is much more character-based rather than kingdom-based like ''Dynasty Warriors'', dramatic lines or moments which are sometimes over-the-top tend to happen more often than you may expect.
* NoExportForYou: ''Samurai Warriors 3 [=XL/Z=]'' and ''Chronicles 2nd'' did not have an international release.
* ReplacementScrappy: Despite having her own fanbase, Nene has earned the ire of some fans for replacing Kunoichi (who was removed) in [=SW2=]. The fact that they have similar movesets (especially as Nene was never a ninja in real life) doesn't help her case. While Kunoichi does return in [=SW3=], the fact that her role is more centered towards Yukimura (and, to a degree, Kaihime) while Nene is shown to do more ninja activities [[spoiler:(including sharing a rivalry/relationship with Hanzo)]] doesn't put an end to the "Nene shouldn't be a ninja" debates. Kunoichi lampshades this by calling Nene her "SpiritualSuccessor" in a WarriorsOrochi 2 Dream stage.
* TakeThat: Given his [[TheAmbitionofOdaNobuna other portrayals]] [[SengokuBasara throughout]] [[NobunagaConcerto fiction]], it can't be coincidence that Hisahide's so blatantly aware of his CardCarryingVillain status.
** Koei has been known to do some 'one-upping' rivalry with Capcom when it comes to [[VideoGame/SengokuBasara their hack and slash sengoku game]], be it temporarily making two poster boys of the latter (Date Masamune and Maeda Keiji) take villainous role in VideoGame/WarriorsOrochi, or the aforementioned Matsunaga Hisahide stuff... this is later upped when Koei announced the ''Sanada-Maru'' expansion in response to Capcom's ''Yukimura-Den'', and not only they also added in Masayuki, in response of Capcom saying that there won't be a new female character, kind of making the game some sort of sausage-fest, Koei responded by announcing that ''Sanada-Maru'' will include an important ''female'' figure in the Siege of Osaka: Nagamasa/Oichi's daughter Chacha.
* TheScrappy:
** Naotora Ii wasn't exactly welcomed due to her meek and ReluctantWarrior personality which reminds many of [[VideoGame/DynastyWarriors Daqiao]] and {{Fanservice}}y designs. Because she's one of the few female daimyo in history, (fans expected a total {{Badass}}). Worse further, they feared that her inclusion means they wouldn't be seeing [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan-favorite]] Naomasa Ii (her adopted son, one of Tokugawa's Shi-Tennou nicknamed the Red Devil) anytime soon. Naomasa Ii was later added in [[UpdatedReRelease Samurai Warriors 4-2]] and Naotora received some considerable CharacterDevelopment on her own [[TookALevelInBadass becoming a strong-willed woman without losing who she is]], which lead to an [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap improved opinion of her for many fans.]]
** Hisahide Matsunaga is ill received for his ridiculously over the top character design (even by SW standards), [[CardCarryingVillain general pretentiousness]], the undue importance put on his presence in the Oda camp (and for some reason suddenly took credits to Hideyoshi's accomplishment in Kanegasaki in the Oda Legend chapter, though it's much to Hisahide's chagrin), and soaking up what some feel to be a disproportionate amount of screen-time.
* {{Sequelitis}}: Has suffered from this somewhat more than its Chinese counterpart, more so in regards to the story than the gameplay. While ''Dynasty'' has always introduced a slew of [[PromotedToPlayable new blood]] each instalment, focus usually remains on the major players of the era while working in the new characters at relevant points. Conversely, ''Samurai'' tends to give large focus to its new characters, sometimes to the detriment of far more important existing ones. The Oda force in particular has found itself on the unkind side of this from ''Samurai Warriors 2'' onwards, to the point where by ''4'', [[OdaNobunaga Nobunaga Oda]] himself is essentially a supporting character, off doing his own thing most of the time while new face Hisahide is treated as the central Oda character.

to:

* AngstWhatAngst: Contrasting her reaction in ''[=3:XL=]'', ''3: Xtreme Legends'', Gracia is surprisingly not too saddened upon hearing Mitsuhide's of Mitsuhide Akechi's death in ''4''. During Battle the "Battle of Hiketa Hiketa" where she sides with Chosokabe Motochika Chōsokabe against the Hashiba Army (who were responsible for her father's death), she will only says say that she wants to continue her father's legacy. She DID While Gracia DOES show a little angst in 4-II, ''4-II'' when she heard that Mitsuhide died and everybody labelled receives the news of Mitsuhide's passing, with everyone labelling him a traitorous criminal. But... that went away in criminal, it lasts roughly a few seconds seconds, and she's instantly back to being cheery.
* BadassDecay: Yoshimoto, Yoshimoto Imagawa, when compared to his historical self. Real-life Imagawa The RealLife Yoshimoto is actually pretty menacing, cunning and cunning, effective as a daimyo, and menacing ''daimyo'', rivaling even the likes of Shingen Takeda and Kenshin. But Kenshin Uesugi. Unfortunately, [[NeverLiveItDown because he's the guy man who's beaten brutally through sheer luck by Nobunaga on Oda in the latter's first big battle]] (and then (then kickstarted the Three "Three Unifier's era Era" of the Sengoku period), he becomes a more or less UsefulNotes/SengokuJidai), ''Samurai Warriors'' turns Yoshimoto into an incompetent buffoon, the equivalent of [[VideoGame/DynastyWarriors Zhang Jiao]] in the game. Jiao from ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriors''. In ''4'', [[Creator/{{Koei}} Koei tries to mitigate Tecmo]] mitigates this by showing that showcasing Yoshimoto has with [[HiddenDepths a dark, serious side that is rarely comes out and shows brought to light]], one that reveals how terrifying and dark he is as a successful daimyo.
he can be as a ''daimyo''.
* BrokenBase: Fans are divided on whether character-specific or force-specific story modes are for the better. The latter is evidently easier to implement, but thanks to the new characters in major installments often being cast as a part of that game's SpotlightStealingSquad, it's left some existing warriors feeling characters feel insignificant.
* ContestedSequel: Third game's The English dub for ''3'' falls under this category, especially regarding many of its particularly the English VA's voice actors' lackluster performance, which inevitably made making many characters' voice voices contain a tint of DullSurprise (which sound so sounds incredibly unfitting for spirited Japanese samurai), {{Samurai}}), among other flaws. However, compared with to the second game's English dub, some of English voices the voiceovers are considerably slightly better. Yet, better, yet it speaks volume that when the fourth game's localization got rid of an English version no longer has dub, only subtitle.
dub entirely.
* CounterpartComparison:
CounterpartComparison
** Nobunaga and Cao Cao are Cao: {{Anti Villain}}s with ambitious goals of uniting their respective lands. The way Koei Tecmo made both characters so similar to the point of ''requiring'' a reference in the crossover.
[[VideoGame/WarriorsOrochi crossover]] was ''required'' to {{Lampshade}} it.
** Also Yukimura Sanada and Zhao Yun, for both being the Bishōnen, spear-wielding poster boys Yun: {{Bishounen}}, BladeOnAStick-wielding {{Mascot}}s of their respective series. This too Like Nobunaga/Cao Cao, this also gets a mention mentioned in [[VideoGame Warriors Orochi]] similar to Oda and Cao Cao above.
the crossover but pairing the two of them up in the opening CG movie.
* CrazyAwesome: Ujiyasu Hojo. He'd Hōjō; he'd have to be in order to pull off some of the insane stuff he does.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Yukimura's last stage, Siege of the "Siege of Osaka Castle Castle", in [=SW3=]. Fight ''3''; just fight until [[spoiler:Hideyori Toyotomi is killed by Hattori Hanzou]] Hanzō]] and then simply listen.
** Naomasa's theme Naomasa Ii's {{Leitmotif}} in 4-II, titled Belief, ''4-II'' entitled "Belief" is an absolutely gorgeous and heart-pounding track!
track.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
EnsembleDarkhorse
** Ranmaru Mori for [[DudeLooksLikeALady obvious reasons]]; case in point, there was so much outrage after he was DemotedToExtra in ''2''. Since then, Ranmaur's gradually reclaimed his relevance in later installments.
** Motonari Mouri. He Mōri: he wasn't officially revealed for the initial line-up of ''3'' until one ''a day before the release, didn't release'', nor does he get mixed in with the whole Ho Yay/Foe Yay FoeYay[=/=]HoYay stuff either and he is also among other members of the roster. His character design renders him nothing close to a Musou bishounen. Yet ''Warriors''-styled {{Bishounen}} (despite being middle-aged), yet fan artists just love him.
his appearance.
** In a popularity poll coinciding with ''Samurai Warriors 3: Empires'' Empires'', Sakon Shima wound up being the fourth most popular character behind only Mitsunari Ishida (one of the series' most important characters), Yukimura Sanada (the poster boy), boy) and Gracia (who probably also counts owes herself to this trope as a darkhorse).
** Ranmaru Mori; there was much outrage after he was DemotedToExtra in ''2''. He's gradually reclaimed his relevance in later titles, possibly owed to his popularity.
well).
* FirstInstallmentWins: The first title was critically well received well-received in the west, West despite the ''Warriors'' series franchise usually scoring predictably low with reviewers. The story and voice acting were praised, praised and the subtle, but notable departures from ''Dynasty's'' ''Dynasty Warriors'' fighting mechanics were seen favourably. favourably (particuarly the EasternRPG elements, which added additional replay value). Fans are more divided on whether the sequels {{Sequel}}s improved upon the original, original or never matched it.
* GameBreaker:
GameBreaker
** Spears in ''Katana'' can critical against nearly every enemy Riding at top speed with ''Matzukaze'', the strongest and fastest mount in the game, 1-hit-killing first game with the best overall stats, will allow any character to pull a OneHitKill over anything the stallion can mow over.
** The five scrolls in the first ''Samurai Warriors'': by equipping
all but five, elemental attacks turn into {{One Hit Kill}s that severely damages enemy officers. On a select few similar note, the "Demon" element ("Dark" element in the localization) from the second game does the same thing, until it was rectified in ''2: Xtreme Legends''.
** Okuni's charged attacks (notably the "charge 2" attack) from the first game possesses ridiculous amounts of striking power.
** Musashi Miyamoto is hilariously broken in ''Samurai Warriors 2'' for three reasons: first, he has the Personal Skill "Reversal" - whereas other characters will be {{Stunlock}}ed if struck several times in succession, Musashi can counter enemy strikes simply by pressing the charged attack button, interrupting an enemy combo to send his attackers-turned-victims flying. Secondly, one of his special abilities (via R1 + charged attack button) is a ShockwaveStomp quickly refilling the Musou Gauge by a set amount, meaning he can use "[[LimitBreak Musou Attacks]]" like no tomorrow once the gauge is filled; furthermore, the ShockwaveStomp causes guard break and stagger when enemies are hit by it, leaving them open for attack. Finally, Musashi's Musou Attack, due to a combination of damage, proximity and range, is the most devastating out of all characters in the game.
** Tadakatsu Honda is essentially the [[MemeticBadass Lu Bu]] of ''Samurai Warriors'' (though the interlude compares him moreso to Zhange Fei), yet he is faster than both
of them without any stat raising.
**
(having above average attack and movement speed between ''Samurai Warriors'' characters), and all of his attacks deal high damage. In 2 Empires, we have ''2'', not only do his special abilities allow him to regain a division of the wheel formation. Not Musou Gauge[[note]]The more enemies hit by this skill, the more Musou is gained.[[/note]] and damage enemies simply by ''running into them'', his Musou Attack can clear a room ''in seconds''.
** The "wheel formation" in ''2: Empires'': not
only does it give you players the normal speed and morale boost if it's the better advantageous formation, but it also '''Doubles Your Attack And Defense''', '''doubles attack and defense''', effectively turning almost any battle into a {{curbstompbattle}} CurbStompBattle if your the enemy doesn't have anything to counter it (which is a 1 in 3 -in-3 chance for every formation they still have).
** Also the five scrolls Spears in SpinOff ''Katana'' can deal {{Critical Hit}}s against nearly every enemy in the first game. If you equip all five, your elemental attacks becomes OneHitKill attacks that severely damages officers. On a similar note the "Demon" element from the second game, which was changed in Xtreme Legends.
** Matzukaze, Keiji's horse, will make you OneHitKill anything that your ride over if going at top speed.
** In [=SW1=], Okuni's charge attacks (notably charge 2) possess ridiculous amounts of power.
** In the second installment, Musashi is hilariously broken for three reasons. Firstly, he has the personal skill Reversal. Whereas other characters can be stunlocked if struck several times in succession, Musashi can just hit the charge button and interrupt the combo to send his attackers-turned-victims flying. Secondly, he has an ability that stuns enemies and gives him free Musou, which means that he has unlimited {{Limit Break}}s at his beck and call. Also, did we mention that he has one of the most devastating Musou attacks in the game?
** Tadakatsu Honda is known as this series' Lu Bu,
{{One Hit Kill}}ing all but the Interlude compares him to Zhange Fei, however he is mildly faster than both (probably having above average speed between SW characters) and all his attacks causes absurdly high damage! Not only that but his two Specials allows him to stun enemies and regain 1/2 a select few of musou and to cause contact damage on enemies. His Musou can clean a room in SECONDS.
them without doing any form of StatGrinding.
** The fourth game ''Samurai Warriors 4'' introduces the Stimulus skill. All the "Stimulus" skill: all rare weapons carry it at maximum strength, strength and it can be found on random weapons at higher difficulties. What does it do? Helps Stimulus helps increase leveling speed, speed and boost parameters beyond the level cap. The LevelCap, the latter bit is being what makes it such a coveted ability on top of being utterly broken. What it means is that so coveted. Essentially, a character who is already maxed at lvl.level 50 can now can, with a weapon having "Stimulus", keep "leveling" i.e. - gain experience {{Experience Point}}s even though your their level won't change and keep change, yet continue gaining stats until all parameters reach their all maxed out. Now that maximum. It doesn't really sound like much, however, but the trick is that in this iteration ''4'', leveling up grants the a character while in combat grants them ''every power up StatusBuff in the game'' '''all at once''' for an extended period of time. This allows time, thus allowing a character to enter the boosted ''leveled up'' "leveled up" state despite technically not being able to level, and ''stay'' in that state provided level up anymore. Provided there's enough enemies and experience points to go around; earn, this character can effectively stay in this state for the duration of a stage; greatly helped with the helping this is an item that increases the drop rate for exp. experience scrolls. Put it all together, together and you players can easily wipe out an entire battlefield clean in a matter or ''minutes'' of minutes, even at Nightmare "[[HarderThanHard Nightmare]]" difficulty.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: When Koshoushou Koshōshō was revealed, revealed for the line-up in ''4'', Japanese players were really annoyed at her character design and her list of [[ManipulativeBastard manipulated men]] includes 'Sengoku Musou fans', "''Sengoku Musou'' fans" that were pissed that she made it in onto the roster with her an incredibly outrageous design appearance, when other more popular choices like Choukei Miyoshi Choukei or even Motochika's wife Nana didn't make the cut. Western-wise, she's considered to be so However, Western players consider Koshōshō's overexaggerated aspects utterly fabulous that some are considering to make fabulous, making her their favorites.
many a player's favorite.
* HilariousInHindsight: The RealLife marriage between Creator/RyotaroOkiayu (Motochika) and Creator/AiMaeda (Oichi) could give hilarious vibes that is funny when one considers the historical Oichi cheated on Nagamasa Azai for Motochika, while for all we know, the Nagamasa-Oichi love story is pretty well-known for its circle. [[Creator/HiroshiKamiya Oh, and Nagamasa is in despair for that]].
Motochika.
* HoYay: See HoYay.{{HoYay/SamuraiWarriors}}
Now with its [[HoYay/SamuraiWarriors own page]]
* MoralEventHorizon: Mitsuhide's betrayal is usually triggered by Nobunaga going too far and crossing one in his eyes. This is something of a HistoricalHeroUpgrade on his part; the real former's part - the RealLife Mitsuhide's motives for turning on his master are actually quite contentious among historians, some of whom suggest it was down to [[{{Revenge}} revenge]] {{Ambition|IsEvil}} or ambition.
{{Revenge}}.
* MostWonderfulSound: The sound that accompanies downing defeating an enemy officer, especially when said officer is part of a mission, followed by the triumphant, "Tekishou, uchitottari!"
"''Tekishou, uchitottari''!"
* MST3KMantra:
MST3KMantra
** Spears in [[SwissArmyWeapon Hidden cannons in spears]], ancient ''Ofuda'' scrolls that fire laser beams, ancient Nipponese shoop-da-woops from Ofuda scrolls, ninja {{Frickin Laser Beam}}s, {{Ninja}} with arms straight out of Gumby... just ExtendableArms...like its ''Dynasty Warriors'' counterpart, it's best to simply turn your off one's brain off before playing. For your own sake.
while playing this series.
** The Subverted with plate mail armor armor: it may seem like this this, but it is in fact it's TruthInTelevision. Armor in the late 16th century 16th-century Japan was influenced by Western plate armors after things like muskets start to show up. technology such as musket rifles started showing up in the nation. Nobunaga himself was historically a foreign artifact fanatic and had worn quite a few so called "Nanban" style so-called "Nanban"-style armors in on occasions.
* NarmCharm: As per ''Warriors'' games tradition, this is bound to happen sooner or later. Also, Furthermore, since ''Samurai Warriors'' is much more character-based rather than kingdom-based like ''Dynasty Warriors'', dramatic lines or moments which are sometimes over-the-top tend to happen more often than you one may expect.
* NoExportForYou: ''Samurai Warriors 3 [=XL/Z=]'' All expansions of ''3'' (''Xtreme Legends''/''Z'', ''Empires'' and ''Z: Special'') and ''Chronicles 2nd'' did not have not received an international release.
* ReplacementScrappy: Despite having her own fanbase, Nene has earned the ire of some fans for replacing displacing Kunoichi (who was removed) in [=SW2=]. ''2''. The fact that they both characters have similar movesets (especially Nene, as Nene she was never a ninja {{Ninja}} in real life) RealLife) doesn't help her case. While Kunoichi does return in [=SW3=], the fact that ''3'', her role is becoming more centered towards around Yukimura (and, to a degree, Kaihime) Kai) while Nene is shown to do more ninja actual {{Ninja}} activities [[spoiler:(including sharing (including [[spoiler:sharing a rivalry/relationship relationship/rivalry with Hanzo)]] Hanzo]]) doesn't put an end to the "Nene shouldn't be a ninja" {{Ninja}}" debates. Kunoichi lampshades {{Lampshades}} this by calling Nene her "SpiritualSuccessor" during a "dream stage" in a WarriorsOrochi 2 Dream stage.
''Warriors Orochi 2''.
* TakeThat: Given his [[TheAmbitionofOdaNobuna other portrayals]] [[SengokuBasara throughout]] [[NobunagaConcerto fiction]], it can't be coincidence that Hisahide's so blatantly aware of his CardCarryingVillain status.
TheScrappy
** Koei has been known to do some 'one-upping' rivalry with Capcom when it comes to [[VideoGame/SengokuBasara their hack and slash sengoku game]], be it temporarily making two poster boys of the latter (Date Masamune and Maeda Keiji) take villainous role in VideoGame/WarriorsOrochi, or the aforementioned Matsunaga Hisahide stuff... this is later upped when Koei announced the ''Sanada-Maru'' expansion in response to Capcom's ''Yukimura-Den'', and not only they also added in Masayuki, in response of Capcom saying that there won't be a new female character, kind of making the game some sort of sausage-fest, Koei responded by announcing that ''Sanada-Maru'' will include an important ''female'' figure in the Siege of Osaka: Nagamasa/Oichi's daughter Chacha.
* TheScrappy:
**
When Naotora Ii was announced as an addition, fans expected her to be a total {{Badass}}, being one of the few female ''daimyo'' in Japanese history. Unfortunately, she wasn't exactly welcomed due to her meek and meek, ReluctantWarrior personality personality, which reminds many reminded ''Warriors'' veterans of [[VideoGame/DynastyWarriors Daqiao]] and Daqiao, including her blatant {{Fanservice}}y character designs. Because she's one of the few female daimyo in history, (fans expected a total {{Badass}}). Worse further, they feared that Compounding this was fans fearing this meant her inclusion means they wouldn't be seeing [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan-favorite]] Naomasa Ii (her adopted son, one of Ieyasu Tokugawa's Shi-Tennou ''Shi-Tennou'' nicknamed the Red Devil) anytime "Red Devil") wouldn't be added any time soon. However, Naomasa Ii was later added in [[UpdatedReRelease would make it onto the roster for ''[[UpdatedReRelease Samurai Warriors 4-2]] 4-II]]'' and Naotora received some considerable CharacterDevelopment on her own by [[TookALevelInBadass becoming a strong-willed woman without losing who she is]], which lead leading to an [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap improved opinion of her for many fans.]]
fans]].
** Hisahide Matsunaga is ill received was ill-received for his ridiculously over the top over-the-top character design (even by SW ''Samurai Warriors'' standards), [[CardCarryingVillain general pretentiousness]], the undue importance put on his presence in the Oda camp (and for (for some reason reason, he suddenly took credits takes credit to Hideyoshi's Hideyoshi Toyotomi's accomplishment in Kanegasaki "Kanegasaki" in the Oda Legend chapter, though it's much to Hisahide's chagrin), chagrin) and soaking up what some feel to be a disproportionate amount of screen-time.
* {{Sequelitis}}: Has ''Samurai Warriors'' has suffered from this somewhat more than its Chinese counterpart, more so in ''Dynasty Warriors'' with regards to the story than the gameplay. game mechanics. While ''Dynasty'' the latter has always introduced a slew of [[PromotedToPlayable new blood]] each instalment, for most installments, focus usually remains on the major players of the "UsefulNotes/{{Three Kingdoms|ShuWeiWu}}" era while working in the new debuting characters at relevant points. points in its history. Conversely, ''Samurai'' ''Samurai Warriors'' tends to give large focus to its new characters, sometimes to at the detriment of far more important existing ones. ones from a historical standpoint. The Oda force force, in particular particular, has found itself on the unkind side of this from beginning with ''Samurai Warriors 2'' onwards, to the point where 2''; by ''4'', [[OdaNobunaga Nobunaga Oda]] himself is essentially a supporting character, character ''in his own faction'' off doing things on his own thing most of the time time, while new face newcomer Hisahide is treated as the central Oda character. character, instead.
* TakeThat
** Given his [[VideoGame/NobunagasAmbition other portrayals]] [[VideoGame/SengokuBasara throughout]] [[VideoGame/NobunagaConcerto fiction]], it can't be a coincidence Hisahide Matsunaga's blatantly aware of his CardCarryingVillain status.
** Koei Tecmo has been known to do some "one-upping" of their rivalry with Creator/{{Capcom}} when it comes to [[VideoGame/SengokuBasara their iteration]] of the HackAndSlash UsefulNotes/JidaiGeki video game, be it temporarily making two poster boys of the latter (Masamune Date and Keiji Maeda) take villainous roles in ''Warriors Orochi'' or the aforementioned Hisahide savviness. This is truly emphasized when the publisher announced ''Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru'' as a response to Capcom's ''Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den'', where both {{Spin Off}}s feature Yukimura as the protagonist. However, Tecmo Koei ensures ''sanada Maru'' is vastly different by adding Yukimura's father Masayuki Sanda as a {{Deuteragonist}}; furthermore, when Capcom stated there won't be any new female characters in ''Yukimura-Den'', making it akin to a [[CastFullOfPrettyBoys sausage-fest]], Tecmo Koei revealed ''Sanada Maru'' will have an important female character playable during the Seige of Osaka Castle: Nagamasa/Oichi's daughter Chacha.
9th Aug '16 9:45:24 PM SneaselSawashiro
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** Koei has been known to do some 'one-upping' rivalry with Capcom when it comes to [[VideoGame/SengokuBasara their hack and slash sengoku game]], be it temporarily making two poster boys of the latter (Date Masamune and Maeda Keiji) take villainous role in VideoGame/WarriorsOrochi, or the aforementioned Matsunaga Hisahide stuff... this is latter upped when Koei announced the ''Sanada-Maru'' expansion in response to Capcom's ''Yukimura-Den'', and not only they also added in Masayuki, in response of Capcom saying that there won't be a new female character, kind of making the game some sort of sausage-fest, Koei responded by announcing that ''Sanada-Maru'' will include an important ''female'' figure in the Siege of Osaka: Nagamasa/Oichi's daughter Chacha.

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** Koei has been known to do some 'one-upping' rivalry with Capcom when it comes to [[VideoGame/SengokuBasara their hack and slash sengoku game]], be it temporarily making two poster boys of the latter (Date Masamune and Maeda Keiji) take villainous role in VideoGame/WarriorsOrochi, or the aforementioned Matsunaga Hisahide stuff... this is latter later upped when Koei announced the ''Sanada-Maru'' expansion in response to Capcom's ''Yukimura-Den'', and not only they also added in Masayuki, in response of Capcom saying that there won't be a new female character, kind of making the game some sort of sausage-fest, Koei responded by announcing that ''Sanada-Maru'' will include an important ''female'' figure in the Siege of Osaka: Nagamasa/Oichi's daughter Chacha.
8th Aug '16 1:57:48 AM ChrisX
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** KOEI ignored the reason Gracia's famous in the first place in favor of an original story with her and Magoichi in her first appearance. TheOtherWiki has a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosokawa_Gracia good article on her actual history.]] They pay a little more attention to her history in [=SW3:XL=], though they still skip on the [[JapaneseChristian reason she's famous.]] Chances are it's to avoid any religious controversy.

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** KOEI ignored the reason Gracia's famous in the first place in favor of an original story with her and Magoichi in her first appearance. TheOtherWiki has a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosokawa_Gracia good article on her actual history.]] They pay a little more attention to her history in [=SW3:XL=], though they still skip on the [[JapaneseChristian reason she's famous.]] Chances are it's to avoid any religious controversy. The only hints to know her Christian background is her foreign name (instead of her default name Tamako) and her outlandish fashion style (evoking ElegantGothicLolita)
4th Aug '16 6:39:47 AM ChrisX
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** Koei has been known to do some 'one-upping' rivalry with Capcom when it comes to [[VideoGame/SengokuBasara their hack and slash sengoku game]], be it temporarily making two poster boys of the latter (Date Masamune and Maeda Keiji) take villainous role in VideoGame/WarriorsOrochi, or the aforementioned Matsunaga Hisahide stuff... this is latter upped when Koei announced the ''Sanada-Maru'' expansion in response to Capcom's ''Yukimura-Den'', and not only they also added in Masayuki, in response of Capcom saying that there won't be a new female character, kind of making the game some sort of sausage-fest, Koei responded by announcing that ''Sanada-Maru'' will include an important ''female'' figure in the Siege of Osaka: Nagamasa/Oichi's daughter Chacha.
19th Jul '16 12:17:19 PM GunarmDyne
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* MostWonderfulSound: The sound that accompanies downing an enemy officer, especially when said officer is part of a mission, followed by the triumphant, "Tekishou, uchitottari!"
9th Jul '16 10:51:25 PM ChrisX
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** It's very possible Koei doesn't plan to include non-Japanese samurai like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_%28sailor%29 Anjin Miura/William Adams]] and, above all [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke Yasuke]], a black, ''African'' samurai, albeit in Yasuke's case, this is for avoiding UnfortunateImplications, as he was serving under the orders of ''Nobunaga Oda'', and [[EvilOverlord everyone knows how Nobunaga is depicted traditionally]]. Oddly enough, Yasuke ''does'' appear in ''VideoGame/NobunagasAmbition'' as one of the many ronin Nobunaga and any other daimyo can recruit in the game.

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** It's very possible Koei doesn't plan to include non-Japanese samurai like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_%28sailor%29 Anjin Miura/William Adams]] and, above all [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke Yasuke]], a black, ''African'' samurai, albeit in Yasuke's case, this is for avoiding UnfortunateImplications, as he was serving under the orders of ''Nobunaga Oda'', and [[EvilOverlord everyone knows how Nobunaga is depicted traditionally]]. Oddly enough, Yasuke ''does'' appear in ''VideoGame/NobunagasAmbition'' as one of the many ronin Nobunaga and any other daimyo can recruit in the game.game, while William/Anjin would went on to star [[VideoGame/{{Nioh}} his own game from the same company.]]
3rd Jul '16 12:19:43 PM klom99
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* TakeThat: Given his [[TheAmbitionofOdaNobuna other portrayals]] [[SengokuBasara throughout]] [[NobunagaConcerto fiction]], it can't be coincidence that Hisahide's so blatantly aware of his CardCarryingVillain status.
17th Jun '16 3:49:49 AM ChrisX
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* AngstWhatAngst: Contrasting her reaction in ''[=3:XL=]'', Gracia is surprisingly not too saddened upon hearing Mitsuhide's death in ''4''. During Battle of Hiketa where she sides with Chosokabe against Hashiba Army (who were responsible for her father's death), she will only says that she wants to continue her father's legacy.

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* AngstWhatAngst: Contrasting her reaction in ''[=3:XL=]'', Gracia is surprisingly not too saddened upon hearing Mitsuhide's death in ''4''. During Battle of Hiketa where she sides with Chosokabe against Hashiba Army (who were responsible for her father's death), she will only says that she wants to continue her father's legacy. She DID show a little angst in 4-II, when she heard that Mitsuhide died and everybody labelled him a traitorous criminal. But... that went away in a few seconds and she's back being cheery.
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