History YMMV / Safehold

29th Jul '16 7:28:03 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Hoo boy, Rhobair Duchairn. One chunk of the fanbase thinks he's a good man trapped in an absolutely ''horrible'' situation, the other thinks that his (unwilling) role in the jihad means he deserves anything he gets.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Hoo boy, Rhobair Duchairn. One chunk of the fanbase thinks he's a good man trapped in an absolutely ''horrible'' situation, the other thinks that his (unwilling) role in the jihad means he deserves anything he gets.
26th May '16 1:11:40 PM RoseAndHeather
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* WarShip: Cayleb & Sharleyan, given they started out as (albeit reluctant) enemies.
* unintentionallyunsympathetic: arguabally Thrisk. He CONSTANTLY agonises over fighting for a deranged lunatic (clyntahn), angsts over turning POWs over to the inquisition to be tortured to death, fully acknowledges he's almost certainly fighting for the wrong side-and keeps on doing so regardless for purely selfish reasons (his family and personal fear of the inquisition)

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* WarShip: Cayleb & Sharleyan, given they started out as (albeit reluctant) enemies.
* unintentionallyunsympathetic: arguabally Thrisk. He CONSTANTLY agonises over fighting for a deranged lunatic (clyntahn), angsts over turning POWs over to the inquisition to be tortured to death, fully acknowledges he's almost certainly fighting for the wrong side-and keeps on doing so regardless for purely selfish reasons (his family and personal fear of the inquisition)
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26th May '16 1:10:21 AM Talyneral
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* WarShip: Cayleb & Sharleyan, given they started out as (albeit reluctant) enemies.

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* WarShip: Cayleb & Sharleyan, given they started out as (albeit reluctant) enemies.enemies.
* unintentionallyunsympathetic: arguabally Thrisk. He CONSTANTLY agonises over fighting for a deranged lunatic (clyntahn), angsts over turning POWs over to the inquisition to be tortured to death, fully acknowledges he's almost certainly fighting for the wrong side-and keeps on doing so regardless for purely selfish reasons (his family and personal fear of the inquisition)
12th Dec '15 10:36:28 AM RoseAndHeather
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* BaseBreaker: Hoo boy, Rhobair Duchairn. One chunk of the fanbase thinks he's a good man trapped in an absolutely ''horrible'' situation, the other thinks that his (unwilling) role in the jihad means he deserves anything he gets.
24th Jul '15 2:35:57 PM Kakai
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* MemeticBadass: If you ask the fandom, Major Phandys is a DoubleAgent who's just waiting for the right moment to reveal himself. He {{Mercy Kill}}ed Hauerd Wylsynn. He spies on world's top espionage agency. He may or may not have been sleeping with Goddess of espionage, Nynian. He's conspiring with Rhobair. One day he'll be there when Clyntahn goes down.
19th May '15 11:59:45 AM Kakai
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* RecycledScript: The overall premise of the series (Musket-era FeudalFuture, PathOfInspiration repressing technology, etc.) was previously used as one major plot-thread of the third book of Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes, and the concept of a race of genocidal aliens intent on wiping out all other sentient life was first used in the series as a whole.
** Shades of this same concept are seen in the war between Grayson and Masada (SpaceAmish religious fanatics whose war went nuclear). Humanity's SpaceNavy, seen briefly in the Safehold series, strongly resembles the navies of ''Literature/HonorHarrington''. The tossed salad genetics and wildly diverse names were ''also'' seen in Honor's world. Indeed, it seems almost every idea hatched in the Literature/{{Safehold}} universe was incubated in one of his other series. [[TropesAreNotBad Not that that's a bad thing]].
3rd Apr '15 1:48:01 AM Kakai
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Raynoz Alvahrez, a WorthyOpponent and developing FatherToHisMen. He's appeared only in two books so far, but his performance in ''Like A Mighty Army'' made him a favorite of many and forum-goers treat him in the same way they do the characters who's been there since day one. It helps that he's one of best-developed characters on [=CoGA=] side.
14th Feb '14 10:57:37 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Zhaspar Clyntahn is Grand Inquisitor of a CorruptChurch, which tells you all you need to know. However in the fourth book, he not only executes every vicar in the Church who even thought about opposing him, but their families as well, including [[WouldHurtAChild children as young as twelve]]. This act is monstrous enough that a declaration of Holy War that had been hanging over the plot since the second book is rendered an ''afterthought.''

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* CompleteMonster: Zhaspar Vicar Zhaspahr Clyntahn is Grand Inquisitor of a CorruptChurch, which tells you all you need to know. However in the fourth book, he not only executes every vicar in the Church who even thought about opposing him, but their families as well, including [[WouldHurtAChild children as young as twelve]]. This act is monstrous enough that a declaration of Holy War that had been hanging over the plot since the second book is rendered an ''afterthought.''
14th Feb '14 10:55:24 AM ACW
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* Complete Monster: Zhaspar Clyntahn is Grand Inquisitor of a CorruptChurch, which tells you all you need to know. However in the fourth book, he not only executes every vicar in the Church who even thought about opposing him, but their families as well, including [[WouldHurtAChild children as young as twelve]]. This act is monstrous enough that a declaration of Holy War that had been hanging over the plot since the second book is rendered an ''afterthought.''

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* Complete Monster: CompleteMonster: Zhaspar Clyntahn is Grand Inquisitor of a CorruptChurch, which tells you all you need to know. However in the fourth book, he not only executes every vicar in the Church who even thought about opposing him, but their families as well, including [[WouldHurtAChild children as young as twelve]]. This act is monstrous enough that a declaration of Holy War that had been hanging over the plot since the second book is rendered an ''afterthought.''
14th Feb '14 10:55:18 AM ACW
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* [[{{Monster/Literature}} Complete Monster]]: Zhaspar Clyntahn. He's Grand Inquisitor of a CorruptChurch, which tells you all you need to know. However in the fourth book, he not only executes every vicar in the Church who even thought about opposing him, but their families as well, including children as young as twelve. This act is monstrous enough that a declaration of Holy War that had been hanging over the plot since the second book is rendered an ''afterthought.''

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* [[{{Monster/Literature}} Complete Monster]]: *Complete Monster: Zhaspar Clyntahn. He's Clyntahn is Grand Inquisitor of a CorruptChurch, which tells you all you need to know. However in the fourth book, he not only executes every vicar in the Church who even thought about opposing him, but their families as well, including [[WouldHurtAChild children as young as twelve.twelve]]. This act is monstrous enough that a declaration of Holy War that had been hanging over the plot since the second book is rendered an ''afterthought.''
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