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* ObscurePopularity: ''SD Gundam'' originally started as a single sketch by a college student who was a fan of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', before shortly expanding into Gachapon toys and the Manga ''Plamo-Kyoshiro'' featuring a model based off of the phenomena in Musha Gundam. Since then, it has exploded into a sub-franchise all on its own with multiple toylines, Manga, Video Games, and more, and as large of a presence as its parent franchise. It also has its many works dive into a wide spread of genres like Sengoku era pastiches, Medieval knight legends, American Action-Movie-esque tales with outer-space, barbarian stories akin to ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}'', time-cop odysseys, and even [[Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden two]] [[Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden works]] based off of ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms''. Tell any overseas ''Gundam'' fan about any of this, though, and they'll probably just scoff it off as a childish travesty to the ''Gundam'' franchise, if not respond with "Wait, I thought ''SD Gundam'' was just [[Anime/SDGundamForce that one dumb watered-down kiddy show]]?".

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* ObscurePopularity: ''SD Gundam'' originally started as a single sketch by a college student who was a fan of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', before shortly expanding into Gachapon toys and the Manga ''Plamo-Kyoshiro'' featuring a model based off of the phenomena in Musha Gundam. Since then, it has exploded into a sub-franchise all on its own with multiple toylines, Manga, Video Games, and more, and as large of a presence as its parent franchise. It also has its many works dive into a wide spread of genres like Sengoku era pastiches, Medieval knight legends, American Action-Movie-esque tales with outer-space, barbarian stories akin to ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}'', time-cop odysseys, and even [[Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden two]] [[Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden works]] based off of ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms''. Tell any overseas ''Gundam'' fan about any of this, though, and they'll probably just scoff it off as a childish travesty to the ''Gundam'' franchise, if not respond with "Wait, I thought ''SD Gundam'' was just [[Anime/SDGundamForce that one dumb watered-down kiddy show]]?".show]]?".
* VocalMinority: Now that most of the hate towards ''Anime/SDGundamForce'' has subsided over the years, most ''Gundam'' fans are more lenient towards this sub-franchise as a whole, with the worst reaction they have to it being that they're not interested in it/it's simply not to their taste. That being said, there are still some ''Gundam'' fans out there who want to make it clear to you that ''SD Gundam'' [[OpinionMyopia is a gigantic embarrassment to the great war tragedy franchise and you should not waste your time with its childish drivel]].
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* TheLawOfFanJackassery: ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' fans tend to be pretty vicious towards this sub-franchise, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "dummies down" what its parent stands for, even though said parent is way more popular in spite of both still standing strong today. ''SD Gundam'' fans claim that they're much more laid-back and friendly, owning to ''SD Gundam'' being much more obscure and thus not as subject to the [[BrokenBase typically vitriolic debates]] that ''Gundam'' gets, as well as them being willing to not [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass judge the sub-franchise for its seemingly more child-like premise like the other fans do]]. However, most likely both as a result from shooting off of the ''Gundam'' fandom and as a way to survive and cope with the ''Gundam'' fandom's treatment of it, ''SD Gundam'' fans can be just as vicious as ''Gundam'' fans, [[OpinionMyopia making fun of others not liking it for having "shit taste"]] and claiming that ''SD Gundam'' commonly carries the ''Gundam'' franchise on its back. To elaborate on the latter, this is due to both the models for ''SD Gundam'' selling incredibly well like the ''Gundam'' models and because, again, ''SD Gundam'' doesn't fall into controversy like ''Gundam'' does so conversations about it don't usually become as toxic, when not only are the model sales for both franchises near exactly the same [[CashCowFranchise by proxy of falling under the same umbrella]], but also the reason why ''Gundam'' falls into controversy now and again is because it's incredibly popular among both Anime and Giant Mecha fans, whereas even the most well-known ''SD Gundam'' works are CultClassic[=s=] at best.[[labelnote:For a specific example...]]Back when they were announced for ''Gundam''[='s=] [[MilestoneCelebration 40th Anniversary]], ''Anime/GundamBuildDiversReRise'' was immediately met with scorn due to being a sequel to the unpopular ''Anime/GundamBuildDivers'', while ''Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden'' was met with praise for being a SpiritualSuccessor to ''Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden'', with many fans claiming that the latter would be the true success compared to the former along with other, equally contentious projects announced at the time. Not only did ''Re:RISE'' end up [[WinBackTheCrowd Winning Back The Crowd]], but ''Sangoku Soketsuden'' ended up being quickly forgotten, and it was not helped that its Episodes were postponed indefinitely for undisclosed reasons, while ''Re:RISE''[='s=] Episodes were only delayed because of the COVID-19 Pandemic much later.[[/labelnote]] So while those claims might not be inaccurate per say, [[SmallNameBigEgo they are bloated to unreasonable extremes]].
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* ObscurePopularity: ''SD Gundam'' originally started as a single sketch by a college student who was a fan of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', before shortly expanding into Gachapon toys and the Manga ''Plamo-Kyoshiro'' featuring a model based off of the phenomena in Musha Gundam. Since then, it has exploded into a sub-franchise all on its own with multiple toylines, Manga, Video Games, and more, and as large of a presence as its parent franchise. It also has its many works dive into a wide spread of genres like Sengoku era pastiches, Medieval knight legends, American Action-Movie-esque tales with outer-space, barbarian stories akin to ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}'', time-cop odysseys, and even [[Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden two]] [[Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden works]] based off of ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms''. Tell any overseas ''Gundam'' fan about any of this, though, and they'll probably just scoff it off as a childish travesty to the ''Gundam'' franchise, if not respond with "Wait, I thought ''SD Gundam'' was just [[Anime/SDGundamForce that one dumb wattered-down kiddy show]]?".

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* ObscurePopularity: ''SD Gundam'' originally started as a single sketch by a college student who was a fan of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', before shortly expanding into Gachapon toys and the Manga ''Plamo-Kyoshiro'' featuring a model based off of the phenomena in Musha Gundam. Since then, it has exploded into a sub-franchise all on its own with multiple toylines, Manga, Video Games, and more, and as large of a presence as its parent franchise. It also has its many works dive into a wide spread of genres like Sengoku era pastiches, Medieval knight legends, American Action-Movie-esque tales with outer-space, barbarian stories akin to ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}'', time-cop odysseys, and even [[Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden two]] [[Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden works]] based off of ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms''. Tell any overseas ''Gundam'' fan about any of this, though, and they'll probably just scoff it off as a childish travesty to the ''Gundam'' franchise, if not respond with "Wait, I thought ''SD Gundam'' was just [[Anime/SDGundamForce that one dumb wattered-down watered-down kiddy show]]?".
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* ObscurePopularity: ''SD Gundam'' originally started as a single sketch by a college student who was a fan of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', before shortly expanding into Gachapon toys and the Manga ''Plamo-Kyoshiro'' featuring a model based off of the phenomena in Musha Gundam. Since then, it has exploded into a sub-franchise all on its own with multiple toylines, Manga, Video Games, and more, and as large of a presence as its parent franchise. It also has its many works dive into a wide spread of genres like Sengoku era pastiches, Medieval knight legends, American Action-Movie-esque tales with outer-space, barbarian stories akin to ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}'', time-cop odysseys, and even [[Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden two]] [[Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden works]] based off of ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms''. Tell any overseas ''Gundam'' fan about any of this, though, and they'll probably just scoff it off as a childish travesty to the ''Gundam'' franchise, if not respond with "Wait, I thought ''SD Gundam'' was just [[Anime/SDGundamForce that one dumb wattered-down kiddy show]]?".]]

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* ObscurePopularity: ''SD Gundam'' originally started as a single sketch by a college student who was a fan of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', before shortly expanding into Gachapon toys and the Manga ''Plamo-Kyoshiro'' featuring a model based off of the phenomena in Musha Gundam. Since then, it has exploded into a sub-franchise all on its own with multiple toylines, Manga, Video Games, and more, and as large of a presence as its parent franchise. It also has its many works dive into a wide spread of genres like Sengoku era pastiches, Medieval knight legends, American Action-Movie-esque tales with outer-space, barbarian stories akin to ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}'', time-cop odysseys, and even [[Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden two]] [[Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden works]] based off of ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms''. Tell any overseas ''Gundam'' fan about any of this, though, and they'll probably just scoff it off as a childish travesty to the ''Gundam'' franchise, if not respond with "Wait, I thought ''SD Gundam'' was just [[Anime/SDGundamForce that one dumb wattered-down kiddy show]]?".]]

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* {{Moe}}: Most characters in general look like this, due to everyone having SuperDeformed proportions and the Gundams being given pupils to their eyes. [[BadassAdorable Of course, just because they look cute doesn't mean they can't kick multiple kinds of ass.]]

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* AmericansHateTingle: In Japan, ''SD Gundam'' is just as beloved as its parent franchise, with many works, countless Gunpla, and even respectable representation and portrayal in [[Anime/GundamBuildFighters other]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars works]]. Overseas? Looked down upon and scorned for its cutesy and more silly approach, and for not being more of the same "gritty, war-torn tragedy" associated with ''Gundam''. Most of the blame here can be pinpointed to ''Anime/SDGundamForce'', which got (And [[VindicatedByHistory sometimes]] still gets) immense hate for being a more lighthearted romp when it first aired, [[AudienceColoringAdaptation and as such fans judge all of the other works as being more or less the same without giving them a chance]].
* BrokenBase: Even to this day, many ''Gundam'' fans ([[AmericansHateTingle Mostly the Western ones]]) decry this sub-franchise for being part of the more serious and dramatic ''Gundam'' whole, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "ruins everything ''Gundam'' stand for". Over the years, however, ''SD Gundam'' has gotten a more sizable fanbase, with many arguing that there are many works that have just as many dramatic and serious moments as the "real" ''Gundam'' works do.
* TheLawOfFanJackassery: ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' fans tend to be pretty vicious towards this sub-franchise, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "dummies down" what its parent stands for, even though said parent is way more popular in spite of both still standing strong today. ''SD Gundam'' fans claim that they're much more laid-back and friendly, owning to ''SD Gundam'' being much more obscure and thus not as subject to the [[BrokenBase typically vitriolic debates]] that ''Gundam'' gets, as well as them being willing to not [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass judge the sub-franchise for its seemingly more child-like premise like the other fans do]]. However, most likely both as a result from shooting off of the ''Gundam'' fandom and as a way to survive and cope with the ''Gundam'' fandom's treatment of it, ''SD Gundam'' fans can be just as vicious as ''Gundam'' fans, [[OpinionMyopia making fun of others not liking it for having "shit taste"]] and claiming that ''SD Gundam'' commonly carries the ''Gundam'' franchise on its back. To elaborate on the latter, this is due to both the models for ''SD Gundam'' selling incredibly well like the ''Gundam'' models and because, again, ''SD Gundam'' doesn't fall into controversy like ''Gundam'' does so conversations about it don't usually become as toxic, when not only are the model sales for both franchises near exactly the same [[CashCowFranchise by proxy of falling under the same umbrella]], but also the reason why ''Gundam'' falls into controversy now and again is because it's incredibly popular among both Anime and Giant Mecha fans, whereas even the most well-known ''SD Gundam'' works are CultClassic[=s=] at best.[[labelnote:For a specific example...]]Back when they were announced for ''Gundam''[='s=] [[MilestoneCelebration 40th Anniversary]], ''Anime/GundamBuildDiversReRise'' was immediately met with scorn due to being a sequel to the unpopular ''Anime/GundamBuildDivers'', while ''Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden'' was met with praise for being a SpiritualSuccessor to ''Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden'', with many fans claiming that the latter would be the true success compared to the former along with other, equally contentious projects announced at the time. Not only did ''Re:RISE'' end up [[WinBackTheCrowd Winning Back The Crowd]], but ''Sangoku Soketsuden'' ended up being quickly forgotten, and it was not helped that its Episodes were postponed indefinitely for undisclosed reasons, while ''Re:RISE''[='s=] Episodes were only delayed because of the COVID-19 Pandemic much later.[[/labelnote]] So while those claims might not be inaccurate per say, [[SmallNameBigEgo they are bloated to unreasonable extremes]].
* {{Moe}}: Most characters in general look like this, due to everyone having SuperDeformed proportions and the Gundams being given pupils to their eyes. [[BadassAdorable Of course, just because they look cute doesn't mean they can't kick multiple kinds of ass.]]
* ObscurePopularity: ''SD Gundam'' originally started as a single sketch by a college student who was a fan of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', before shortly expanding into Gachapon toys and the Manga ''Plamo-Kyoshiro'' featuring a model based off of the phenomena in Musha Gundam. Since then, it has exploded into a sub-franchise all on its own with multiple toylines, Manga, Video Games, and more, and as large of a presence as its parent franchise. It also has its many works dive into a wide spread of genres like Sengoku era pastiches, Medieval knight legends, American Action-Movie-esque tales with outer-space, barbarian stories akin to ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}'', time-cop odysseys, and even [[Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden two]] [[Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden works]] based off of ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms''. Tell any overseas ''Gundam'' fan about any of this, though, and they'll probably just scoff it off as a childish travesty to the ''Gundam'' franchise, if not respond with "Wait, I thought ''SD Gundam'' was just [[Anime/SDGundamForce that one dumb wattered-down kiddy show]]?".
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Per this thread, taken down assumptions made about the two fandoms.


* AmericansHateTingle: In Japan, ''SD Gundam'' is just as beloved as its parent franchise, with many works, countless Gunpla, and even respectable representation and portrayal in [[Anime/GundamBuildFighters other]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars works]]. Overseas? Looked down upon and scorned for its cutesy and more silly approach, and for not being more of the same "gritty, war-torn tragedy" associated with ''Gundam''. Most of the blame here can be pinpointed to ''Anime/SDGundamForce'', which got (And [[VindicatedByHistory sometimes]] still gets) immense hate for being a more lighthearted romp when it first aired, [[AudienceColoringAdaptation and as such fans judge all of the other works as being more or less the same without giving them a chance]].
* BrokenBase: Even to this day, many ''Gundam'' fans ([[AmericansHateTingle Mostly the Western ones]]) decry this sub-franchise for being part of the more serious and dramatic ''Gundam'' whole, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "ruins everything ''Gundam'' stand for". Over the years, however, ''SD Gundam'' has gotten a more sizable fanbase, with many arguing that there are many works that have just as many dramatic and serious moments as the "real" ''Gundam'' works do.
* TheLawOfFanJackassery: ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' fans tend to be pretty vicious towards this sub-franchise, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "dummies down" what its parent stands for, even though said parent is way more popular in spite of both still standing strong today. ''SD Gundam'' fans claim that they're much more laid-back and friendly, owning to ''SD Gundam'' being much more obscure and thus not as subject to the [[BrokenBase typically vitriolic debates]] that ''Gundam'' gets, as well as them being willing to not [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass judge the sub-franchise for its seemingly more child-like premise like the other fans do]]. However, most likely both as a result from shooting off of the ''Gundam'' fandom and as a way to survive and cope with the ''Gundam'' fandom's treatment of it, ''SD Gundam'' fans can be just as vicious as ''Gundam'' fans, [[OpinionMyopia making fun of others not liking it for having "shit taste"]] and claiming that ''SD Gundam'' commonly carries the ''Gundam'' franchise on its back. To elaborate on the latter, this is due to both the models for ''SD Gundam'' selling incredibly well like the ''Gundam'' models and because, again, ''SD Gundam'' doesn't fall into controversy like ''Gundam'' does so conversations about it don't usually become as toxic, when not only are the model sales for both franchises near exactly the same [[CashCowFranchise by proxy of falling under the same umbrella]], but also the reason why ''Gundam'' falls into controversy now and again is because it's incredibly popular among both Anime and Giant Mecha fans, whereas even the most well-known ''SD Gundam'' works are CultClassic[=s=] at best.[[labelnote:For a specific example...]]Back when they were announced for ''Gundam''[='s=] [[MilestoneCelebration 40th Anniversary]], ''Anime/GundamBuildDiversReRise'' was immediately met with scorn due to being a sequel to the unpopular ''Anime/GundamBuildDivers'', while ''Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden'' was met with praise for being a SpiritualSuccessor to ''Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden'', with many fans claiming that the latter would be the true success compared to the former along with other, equally contentious projects announced at the time. Not only did ''Re:RISE'' end up [[WinBackTheCrowd Winning Back The Crowd]], but ''Sangoku Soketsuden'' ended up being quickly forgotten, and it was not helped that its Episodes were postponed indefinitely for undisclosed reasons, while ''Re:RISE''[='s=] Episodes were only delayed because of the COVID-19 Pandemic much later.[[/labelnote]] So while those claims might not be inaccurate per say, [[SmallNameBigEgo they are bloated to unreasonable extremes]].
* {{Moe}}: Most characters in general look like this, due to everyone having SuperDeformed proportions and the Gundams being given pupils to their eyes. [[BadassAdorable Of course, just because they look cute doesn't mean they can't kick multiple kinds of ass.]]
* ObscurePopularity: ''SD Gundam'' originally started as a single sketch by a college student who was a fan of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', before shortly expanding into Gachapon toys and the Manga ''Plamo-Kyoshiro'' featuring a model based off of the phenomena in Musha Gundam. Since then, it has exploded into a sub-franchise all on its own with multiple toylines, Manga, Video Games, and more, and as large of a presence as its parent franchise. It also has its many works dive into a wide spread of genres like Sengoku era pastiches, Medieval knight legends, American Action-Movie-esque tales with outer-space, barbarian stories akin to ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}'', time-cop odysseys, and even [[Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden two]] [[Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden works]] based off of ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms''. Tell any overseas ''Gundam'' fan about any of this, though, and they'll probably just scoff it off as a childish travesty to the ''Gundam'' franchise, if not respond with "Wait, I thought ''SD Gundam'' was just [[Anime/SDGundamForce that one dumb wattered-down kiddy show]]?".

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* AmericansHateTingle: In Japan, ''SD Gundam'' is just as beloved as its parent franchise, with many works, countless Gunpla, and even respectable representation and portrayal in [[Anime/GundamBuildFighters other]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars works]]. Overseas? Looked down upon and scorned for its cutesy and more silly approach, and for not being more of the same "gritty, war-torn tragedy" associated with ''Gundam''. Most of the blame here can be pinpointed to ''Anime/SDGundamForce'', which got (And [[VindicatedByHistory sometimes]] still gets) immense hate for being a more lighthearted romp when it first aired, [[AudienceColoringAdaptation and as such fans judge all of the other works as being more or less the same without giving them a chance]].
* BrokenBase: Even to this day, many ''Gundam'' fans ([[AmericansHateTingle Mostly the Western ones]]) decry this sub-franchise for being part of the more serious and dramatic ''Gundam'' whole, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "ruins everything ''Gundam'' stand for". Over the years, however, ''SD Gundam'' has gotten a more sizable fanbase, with many arguing that there are many works that have just as many dramatic and serious moments as the "real" ''Gundam'' works do.
* TheLawOfFanJackassery: ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' fans tend to be pretty vicious towards this sub-franchise, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "dummies down" what its parent stands for, even though said parent is way more popular in spite of both still standing strong today. ''SD Gundam'' fans claim that they're much more laid-back and friendly, owning to ''SD Gundam'' being much more obscure and thus not as subject to the [[BrokenBase typically vitriolic debates]] that ''Gundam'' gets, as well as them being willing to not [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass judge the sub-franchise for its seemingly more child-like premise like the other fans do]]. However, most likely both as a result from shooting off of the ''Gundam'' fandom and as a way to survive and cope with the ''Gundam'' fandom's treatment of it, ''SD Gundam'' fans can be just as vicious as ''Gundam'' fans, [[OpinionMyopia making fun of others not liking it for having "shit taste"]] and claiming that ''SD Gundam'' commonly carries the ''Gundam'' franchise on its back. To elaborate on the latter, this is due to both the models for ''SD Gundam'' selling incredibly well like the ''Gundam'' models and because, again, ''SD Gundam'' doesn't fall into controversy like ''Gundam'' does so conversations about it don't usually become as toxic, when not only are the model sales for both franchises near exactly the same [[CashCowFranchise by proxy of falling under the same umbrella]], but also the reason why ''Gundam'' falls into controversy now and again is because it's incredibly popular among both Anime and Giant Mecha fans, whereas even the most well-known ''SD Gundam'' works are CultClassic[=s=] at best.[[labelnote:For a specific example...]]Back when they were announced for ''Gundam''[='s=] [[MilestoneCelebration 40th Anniversary]], ''Anime/GundamBuildDiversReRise'' was immediately met with scorn due to being a sequel to the unpopular ''Anime/GundamBuildDivers'', while ''Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden'' was met with praise for being a SpiritualSuccessor to ''Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden'', with many fans claiming that the latter would be the true success compared to the former along with other, equally contentious projects announced at the time. Not only did ''Re:RISE'' end up [[WinBackTheCrowd Winning Back The Crowd]], but ''Sangoku Soketsuden'' ended up being quickly forgotten, and it was not helped that its Episodes were postponed indefinitely for undisclosed reasons, while ''Re:RISE''[='s=] Episodes were only delayed because of the COVID-19 Pandemic much later.[[/labelnote]] So while those claims might not be inaccurate per say, [[SmallNameBigEgo they are bloated to unreasonable extremes]].
* {{Moe}}: Most characters in general look like this, due to everyone having SuperDeformed proportions and the Gundams being given pupils to their eyes. [[BadassAdorable Of course, just because they look cute doesn't mean they can't kick multiple kinds of ass.]]
* ObscurePopularity: ''SD Gundam'' originally started as a single sketch by a college student who was a fan of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', before shortly expanding into Gachapon toys and the Manga ''Plamo-Kyoshiro'' featuring a model based off of the phenomena in Musha Gundam. Since then, it has exploded into a sub-franchise all on its own with multiple toylines, Manga, Video Games, and more, and as large of a presence as its parent franchise. It also has its many works dive into a wide spread of genres like Sengoku era pastiches, Medieval knight legends, American Action-Movie-esque tales with outer-space, barbarian stories akin to ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}'', time-cop odysseys, and even [[Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden two]] [[Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden works]] based off of ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms''. Tell any overseas ''Gundam'' fan about any of this, though, and they'll probably just scoff it off as a childish travesty to the ''Gundam'' franchise, if not respond with "Wait, I thought ''SD Gundam'' was just [[Anime/SDGundamForce that one dumb wattered-down kiddy show]]?".
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Personally speaking, this is why I can never recommend this franchise to anyone again with a clear conscience. The same goes for Gundam...and any other Giant Mecha work for that matter (Looking at you, Super Robot Wars).

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* TheLawOfFanJackassery: ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' fans tend to be pretty vicious towards this sub-franchise, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "dummies down" what its parent stands for, even though said parent is way more popular in spite of both still standing strong today. ''SD Gundam'' fans claim that they're much more laid-back and friendly, owning to ''SD Gundam'' being much more obscure and thus not as subject to the [[BrokenBase typically vitriolic debates]] that ''Gundam'' gets, as well as them being willing to not [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass judge the sub-franchise for its seemingly more child-like premise like the other fans do]]. However, most likely both as a result from shooting off of the ''Gundam'' fandom and as a way to survive and cope with the ''Gundam'' fandom's treatment of it, ''SD Gundam'' fans can be just as vicious as ''Gundam'' fans, [[OpinionMyopia making fun of others not liking it for having "shit taste"]] and claiming that ''SD Gundam'' commonly carries the ''Gundam'' franchise on its back. To elaborate on the latter, this is due to both the models for ''SD Gundam'' selling incredibly well like the ''Gundam'' models and because, again, ''SD Gundam'' doesn't fall into controversy like ''Gundam'' does so conversations about it don't usually become as toxic, when not only are the model sales for both franchises near exactly the same [[CashCowFranchise by proxy of falling under the same umbrella]], but also the reason why ''Gundam'' falls into controversy now and again is because it's incredibly popular among both Anime and Giant Mecha fans, whereas even the most well-known ''SD Gundam'' works are CultClassic[=s=] at best.[[labelnote:For a specific example...]]Back when they were announced for ''Gundam''[='s=] [[MilestoneCelebration 40th Anniversary]], ''Anime/GundamBuildDiversReRise'' was immediately met with scorn due to being a sequel to the unpopular ''Anime/GundamBuildDivers'', while ''Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden'' was met with praise for being a SpiritualSuccessor to ''Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden'', with many fans claiming that the latter would be the true success compared to the former along with other, equally contentious projects announced at the time. Not only did ''Re:RISE'' end up [[WinBackTheCrowd Winning Back The Crowd]], but ''Sangoku Soketsuden'' ended up being quickly forgotten, and it was not helped that its Episodes were postponed indefinitely for undisclosed reasons, while ''Re:RISE''[='s=] Episodes were only delayed because of the COVID-19 Pandemic much later.[[/labelnote]] So while those claims might not be inaccurate per say, [[SmallNameBigEgo they are bloated to unreasonable extremes]].
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* {{Moe}}: Most characters in general look like this, due to everyone having SuperDeformed proportions and the Gundams being given pupils to their eyes. [[BadassAdorable Of course, just because they look cute doesn't mean they can't kick multiple kinds of ass.]]

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* {{Moe}}: Most characters in general look like this, due to everyone having SuperDeformed proportions and the Gundams being given pupils to their eyes. [[BadassAdorable Of course, just because they look cute doesn't mean they can't kick multiple kinds of ass.]]]]
* ObscurePopularity: ''SD Gundam'' originally started as a single sketch by a college student who was a fan of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', before shortly expanding into Gachapon toys and the Manga ''Plamo-Kyoshiro'' featuring a model based off of the phenomena in Musha Gundam. Since then, it has exploded into a sub-franchise all on its own with multiple toylines, Manga, Video Games, and more, and as large of a presence as its parent franchise. It also has its many works dive into a wide spread of genres like Sengoku era pastiches, Medieval knight legends, American Action-Movie-esque tales with outer-space, barbarian stories akin to ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}'', time-cop odysseys, and even [[Toys/BBSenshiSangokuden two]] [[Anime/SDGundamWorldSangokuSoketsuden works]] based off of ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms''. Tell any overseas ''Gundam'' fan about any of this, though, and they'll probably just scoff it off as a childish travesty to the ''Gundam'' franchise, if not respond with "Wait, I thought ''SD Gundam'' was just [[Anime/SDGundamForce that one dumb wattered-down kiddy show]]?".
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* BrokenBase: Even to this day, many ''Gundam'' fans ([[AmericansHateTingle Mostly the Western ones]]) decry this sub-franchise for being part of the more serious and dramatic ''Gundam'' whole, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "ruins everything ''Gundam'' stand for". Over the years, however, ''SD Gundam'' has gotten a more sizable fanbase, with many arguing that there are many works that have just as many dramatic and serious moments as the "real" ''Gundam'' works do.

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* BrokenBase: Even to this day, many ''Gundam'' fans ([[AmericansHateTingle Mostly the Western ones]]) decry this sub-franchise for being part of the more serious and dramatic ''Gundam'' whole, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "ruins everything ''Gundam'' stand for". Over the years, however, ''SD Gundam'' has gotten a more sizable fanbase, with many arguing that there are many works that have just as many dramatic and serious moments as the "real" ''Gundam'' works do.do.
* {{Moe}}: Most characters in general look like this, due to everyone having SuperDeformed proportions and the Gundams being given pupils to their eyes. [[BadassAdorable Of course, just because they look cute doesn't mean they can't kick multiple kinds of ass.]]
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* AmericansHateTingle: In Japan, ''SD Gundam'' is just as beloved as its parent franchise, with many works, countless Gunpla, and even respectable representation and portrayal in [[Anime/GundamBuildFighters other]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars works]]. Overseas? Looked down upon and scorned for its cutesy and more silly approach, and for not being more of the same "gritty, war-torn tragedy" associated with ''Gundam''. Most of the blame here can be pinpointed to ''Anime/SDGundamForce'', which got (And [[VindicatedByHistory sometimes]] still gets) immense hate for being a more lighthearted romp when it first aired.
* BrokenBase: Even to this day, many ''Gundam'' fans (Mostly the Western ones) decry this sub-franchise for being part of the more serious and dramatic ''Gundam'' whole, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "ruins everything ''Gundam'' stand for". Over the years, however, ''SD Gundam'' has gotten a more sizable fanbase, with many arguing that there are many works that have just as many dramatic and serious moments as the "real" ''Gundam'' works do.

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* AmericansHateTingle: In Japan, ''SD Gundam'' is just as beloved as its parent franchise, with many works, countless Gunpla, and even respectable representation and portrayal in [[Anime/GundamBuildFighters other]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars works]]. Overseas? Looked down upon and scorned for its cutesy and more silly approach, and for not being more of the same "gritty, war-torn tragedy" associated with ''Gundam''. Most of the blame here can be pinpointed to ''Anime/SDGundamForce'', which got (And [[VindicatedByHistory sometimes]] still gets) immense hate for being a more lighthearted romp when it first aired.
aired, [[AudienceColoringAdaptation and as such fans judge all of the other works as being more or less the same without giving them a chance]].
* BrokenBase: Even to this day, many ''Gundam'' fans (Mostly ([[AmericansHateTingle Mostly the Western ones) ones]]) decry this sub-franchise for being part of the more serious and dramatic ''Gundam'' whole, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "ruins everything ''Gundam'' stand for". Over the years, however, ''SD Gundam'' has gotten a more sizable fanbase, with many arguing that there are many works that have just as many dramatic and serious moments as the "real" ''Gundam'' works do.
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* AmericansHateTingle: In Japan, ''SD Gundam'' is just as beloved as its parent franchise, with many works, countless Gunpla, and even respectable representation and portrayal in [[Anime/GundamBuildFighters other]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars works]]. Overseas? Looked down upon and scorned for its cutesy and more silly approach, and for not being more of the same "gritty, war-torn tragedy" associated with ''Gundam''. Most of the blame here can be pinpointed to ''Anime/SDGundamForce'', which got (And [[VindicatedByHistory sometimes]] still gets) immense hate for being a more lighthearted romp when it first aired.
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* BrokenBase: Even to this day, many ''Gundam'' fans (Mostly the Western ones) decry this sub-franchise for being part of the more serious and dramatic ''Gundam'' whole, claiming that it's "too kiddy" and "ruins everything ''Gundam'' stand for". Over the years, however, ''SD Gundam'' has gotten a more sizable fanbase, with many arguing that there are many works that have just as many dramatic and serious moments as the "real" ''Gundam'' works do.

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