History YMMV / Rocky

15th Nov '16 5:15:12 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: There are a variety of different Rocky games. Some mediocre, and some that just cries this trope.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: There are a variety of different Rocky games. Some mediocre, and some that just cries scream this trope.


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26th Aug '16 1:23:19 PM Snarf
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** Rocky himself never displays the slightest hint of racism towards his opponents (or anyone else). The only thing that matters to Rocky is how they perform in the ring.

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** Rocky himself never displays the slightest hint of racism towards his opponents (or anyone else). This is as opposed to Paulie, who constantly drops racial slurs while accompanying Rocky at Apollo's all-black gym in Los Angeles. Two characters with similar backgrounds but radically different world views on race. The only thing that matters to Rocky is how they perform in the ring.
26th Aug '16 1:18:51 PM Snarf
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** Rocky himself never displays the slightest hint of racism towards his opponents (or anyone else). The only thing that matters to Rocky is how they perform in the ring.
26th Aug '16 1:13:54 PM Snarf
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*** Rocky's third 'bout' with Apollo was an informal sparring match, not part of either fighter's official record. It's never shown onscreen who actually won that fight. Rocky may have just told Donnie that Apollo won as a friendly gesture, building Apollo up in the eyes of the son who never knew him.
10th Jun '16 8:17:12 AM j21
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Rocky can come across as quite a pushy jerk towards Adrian in the movie's first half. First of all, his complaints to Paulie about getting no response to his bad jokes feels very much like modern day complaints about "friendzoning." Then she only goes on a date with him because Paulie bullies her into it, which Rocky has no problem going along with. Then he spends the whole date blathering on about himself, rarely seeming to care if Adrian has anything to add to the conversation. Finally, she ''repeatedly'' tries to beg off going into his apartment, only for Rocky to refuse to take no for an answer and keep badgering her until she gives in. This is supposedly all justified by her being shy, and Rocky just wanting to bring her out of her shell for what she ''really'' wants, which he somehow knows.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Rocky can come across as quite a pushy jerk towards Adrian in the movie's first half. First of all, his complaints to Paulie about getting no response to his bad jokes feels very much like modern day complaints about "friendzoning." Then she only goes on a date with him because Paulie bullies her into it, which Rocky has no problem going along with. Then he spends the whole date blathering on about himself, rarely seeming to care if Adrian has anything to add to the conversation. Finally, she ''repeatedly'' tries to beg off going into his apartment, only for Rocky to refuse to take no for an answer and keep badgering her until she gives in. in (and also, failing her entering, was apparently planning to let her walk home alone in a rough neighborhood). This is supposedly all justified by her being shy, and Rocky just wanting to bring her out of her shell for what she ''really'' wants, which he somehow knows.knows.
** The moments leading up to their first hookup are pretty rapey as well, as Adrian repeatedly tries to leave, says she is uncomfortable, and Rocky actually ''blocks the door'' which is why their make-out session takes place there.
4th Jun '16 9:37:15 PM nombretomado
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** NoProblemWithLicensedGames: Although many would agree that Rocky on PS2 and X-Box is a worthy attempt, and Rocky Legends is a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel. It helps that it offers a story mode where you follow Rocky and three other main characters, with at least one unique training game for each.

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** NoProblemWithLicensedGames: Although many would agree that Rocky on PS2 [=PS2=] and X-Box is a worthy attempt, and Rocky Legends is a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel. It helps that it offers a story mode where you follow Rocky and three other main characters, with at least one unique training game for each.
15th May '16 7:46:41 PM MJaxon
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** In his legendary 2013 rant in Philadelphia, comedian Bill Burr, in the middle of ripping everything Philly related, pointed out that Rocky, a fictional character, had a statue and was widely celebrated as a Philadelphia icon, while Joe Frazier, a real life World Champion Boxer from Philly, didn't, and was basically ignored. Even worse, Frazier also normally ran the up the art museum steps as part of his running workout.
*** [[spoiler:“Fuckin’ Rocky is your hero? The whole pride of your city is built around a guy who doesn’t even exist. Joe Frazier is from there, but he’s black so you can’t fucking deal with him. So you make a fuckin’ statue for some three foot fuckin’ Italian…”]]
14th Feb '16 4:53:33 AM Michael_McManus
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* JerkassWoobie: Paulie, Paulie, Paulie. Best summarised by Rocky in ''Creed.''
--> '''Rocky:''' "Paulie was my best friend, but he wasn't so friendly."



** Apollo is the biggest aversion. He's a SelfMadeMan who proposes the exhibition match that kick-starts the plot in ''I'', his desire for a rematch is what leads to Rocky becoming the heavyweight champ in ''II'', he trains Rocky to help beat Clubber and reclaim his title in ''III'', his death drives the plot of '''IV''', and his son takes over as the main character of the series in '''Creed'''. In short, ''five out of seven movies happen because of Apollo''. He even [[{{Handwave}} handwaves]] the racial issue in the original film, dismissing the significance of an interracial boxing match.

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** Apollo is the biggest aversion. He's a SelfMadeMan who proposes the exhibition match that kick-starts the plot in ''I'', his desire for a rematch is what leads to Rocky becoming the heavyweight champ in ''II'', he trains Rocky to help beat Clubber and reclaim his title in ''III'', his death drives the plot of '''IV''', ''IV'', and his son takes over as the main character of the series in '''Creed'''.''Creed''. In short, ''five out of seven movies happen because of Apollo''. He even [[{{Handwave}} handwaves]] the racial issue in the original film, dismissing the significance of an interracial boxing match.
14th Feb '16 4:50:01 AM Michael_McManus
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** You're gonna eat lightning and crap thunder!



* UnfortunateImplications: [[http://www.avclub.com/article/rocky-series-became-stallone-biography-great-new-e-229235 A retrospective of the entire series]] points out how it can get pretty disturbing how you're asked over and over to root for a white guy to beat up various black guys.

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* UnfortunateImplications: Ultimately subverted. [[http://www.avclub.com/article/rocky-series-became-stallone-biography-great-new-e-229235 A retrospective of the entire series]] points out how it can get pretty disturbing how you're asked over and over to root for a white guy to beat up various black guys. Having said that...
** All three of Rocky's African American rivals are portrayed as well spoken, intelligent, and charismatic individuals. Apollo and Mason have their own story arcs that parallel Rocky's, and Clubber (the only one who is an out-and-out villain) is no worse than the white Ivan Drago or Tommy Gunn.
** Apollo is the biggest aversion. He's a SelfMadeMan who proposes the exhibition match that kick-starts the plot in ''I'', his desire for a rematch is what leads to Rocky becoming the heavyweight champ in ''II'', he trains Rocky to help beat Clubber and reclaim his title in ''III'', his death drives the plot of '''IV''', and his son takes over as the main character of the series in '''Creed'''. In short, ''five out of seven movies happen because of Apollo''. He even [[{{Handwave}} handwaves]] the racial issue in the original film, dismissing the significance of an interracial boxing match.
*** It's also worth mentioning that Apollo's trainer Duke becomes Rocky's trainer after Mickey and Apollo pass away, leading him to victory against Drago and a narrow loss to Mason.
** Rocky's win/loss record against his African American opponents isn't great, either. He loses his first matches against Apollo and Clubber, he never wins against Mason, and it's revealed in ''Creed'' that Apollo won their second rematch. That's four losses, two wins. By contrast, he never lost to Drago or Tommy Gunn.
6th Jan '16 7:56:07 PM Brandon
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** A heartwarming example. Rocky's [[PatrickStewartSpeech speech to his son]] in the sixth film. People have been known to send it to a friend or family member that's feeling down, anxiety, or going through some kind of depression. The scene's been reputed to be a good motivation starter.
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