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** ''Darkly'' hilarious in hindsight. In the BadFuture of this fic, which started writing as a {{continuation}} of where the series' story was at at the time, the Kingdom of Atlas is stated to be the sole kingdom that's still functioning in any form by the time before Jaune goes back in time, whereas the others have all been wiped out or collapsed into anarchy. As of the end of Volume 8 of ''RWBY'', the Kingdom of Atlas is officially destroyed while the other three recognized kingdoms are still functioning, albeit two of them have had their huntsman defences crippled and decimated.
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** [[AdaptationalHeroism Adam Taurus]], part of the White Fang from a young age, was inspired by Jaune's actions to achieve equal rights for the Faunus without having to resort to using ''actual'' violence (merely the threat of it) against their opponents, which prevented his worst impulses from growing out of control. When Hazel and Tyrian take over the White Fang, Adam is dismayed as they and Sienna turn the organization into a bloodthirsty terrorist network that he feels spits in the eye of the organization's original cause, and he can't do anything to stop a grieving Blake from being radicalized away from being his former childhood MoralityPet into becoming the same kind of unrepentant murderer that ''he'' could have been, with the White Fang holding her life in front of Adam as a bargaining chip to keep him under heel. All of this drives Adam to ruthlessly ally with Jaune Ashari and Winter Schnee to help them brutally take down the White Fang once and for all, on the absolute condition that Blake be spared at the end of it. [[spoiler:Adam succeeds in those goals, but his victory comes at the cost of the woman he loves disowning him and their once-close friendship being destroyed forever. Still, Adam goes on to rule Menagerie and strengthen its ties to the four recognized kingdoms, bringing human-Faunus relations closer to achieving equality]].

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** [[AdaptationalHeroism Adam Taurus]], part of the White Fang from a young age, was inspired by Jaune's actions to achieve equal rights for the Faunus without having to resort to using ''actual'' violence (merely the threat of it) against their opponents, which prevented his worst impulses from growing out of control. When Hazel and Tyrian take over the White Fang, Adam is dismayed as they and Sienna turn the organization into a bloodthirsty terrorist network that he feels spits in the eye of the organization's original cause, and he can't do anything to stop a grieving Blake from being radicalized away from being his former childhood MoralityPet into becoming the same kind of unrepentant murderer that ''he'' could have been, with the White Fang holding her life in front of Adam as a bargaining chip to keep him under heel. All of this drives Adam to ruthlessly ally with Jaune Ashari and Winter Schnee to help them brutally take down the White Fang once and for all, on the absolute condition that Blake be spared at the end of it. [[spoiler:Adam succeeds in those goals, but his victory comes at the cost of the woman he loves loved and saved disowning him and their once-close friendship being destroyed forever. Still, Adam goes on to rule Menagerie and strengthen its ties to the four recognized kingdoms, bringing human-Faunus relations closer to achieving equality]].
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** [[AdaptationalHeroism Adam Taurus]], part of the White Fang from a young age, was inspired by Jaune's actions to achieve equal rights for the Faunus without having to resort to using ''actual'' violence (merely the threat of it) against their opponents, which prevented his worst impulses from growing out of control. When Hazel and Tyrian take over the White Fang, Adam is dismayed as they and Sienna turn the organization into a bloodthirsty terrorist network that he feels spits in the eye of the organization's original cause, and he can't do anything to stop a grieving Blake from being radicalized away from being his former childhood MoralityPet into becoming the same kind of unrepentant murderer that ''he'' could have been, with the White Fang holding her life in front of Adam as a bargaining chip to keep him under heel. All of this drives Adam to ruthlessly ally with Jaune Arc and Winter Schnee to help them brutally take down the White Fang once and for all, on the absolute condition that Blake be spared at the end of it. [[spoiler:Adam succeeds in those goals, and afterwards he takes over Menagerie to bring human-Faunus relations closer to equality... but his victory has come at the cost of the woman he saved disowning him and their former lifelong friendship being destroyed forever]].

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** [[AdaptationalHeroism Adam Taurus]], part of the White Fang from a young age, was inspired by Jaune's actions to achieve equal rights for the Faunus without having to resort to using ''actual'' violence (merely the threat of it) against their opponents, which prevented his worst impulses from growing out of control. When Hazel and Tyrian take over the White Fang, Adam is dismayed as they and Sienna turn the organization into a bloodthirsty terrorist network that he feels spits in the eye of the organization's original cause, and he can't do anything to stop a grieving Blake from being radicalized away from being his former childhood MoralityPet into becoming the same kind of unrepentant murderer that ''he'' could have been, with the White Fang holding her life in front of Adam as a bargaining chip to keep him under heel. All of this drives Adam to ruthlessly ally with Jaune Arc Ashari and Winter Schnee to help them brutally take down the White Fang once and for all, on the absolute condition that Blake be spared at the end of it. [[spoiler:Adam succeeds in those goals, but his victory comes at the cost of the woman he loves disowning him and afterwards he takes over their once-close friendship being destroyed forever. Still, Adam goes on to rule Menagerie and strengthen its ties to bring the four recognized kingdoms, bringing human-Faunus relations closer to equality... but his victory has come at the cost of the woman he saved disowning him and their former lifelong friendship being destroyed forever]].achieving equality]].
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** Jaune Ashari fought through the end of the world as we know it and the deaths of just about ''everyone'' he ever loved in the BadFuture, which made him grief-wracked and desperate enough to agree to [[DealWithTheDevil a deal with a dying Salem]] to rewind the game by sending him back in time, hoping that he could use it to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong. Although he makes many meaningful friends and family in the past timeline, it is not all sunshine and rainbows for Jaune. More than being faced with younger alternate iterations of his friends and loved ones whom are now over a decade younger and don't know him the same way they knew him in the old timeline, some of the changes Jaune makes to history are for the worse instead of the better, and those changes often hit very close to home for him. For examples, he saves a child Ruby's life but in the process traumatizes her to the point where his first friend's alternate self can't so much as be near him without feeling afraid, he feels responsible for his presence driving Salem to radicalize the White Fang several years early ''and'' for Blake's new timeline self going down a darker path where she essentially swaps roles with Adam, and Pyrrha's counterpart -- who is a living, breathing reminder of Jaune's partner and first love who he lost -- ends up being adverse and ''alienated'' towards Jaune Ashari in the past. Jaune is also ''deeply'' shaken by knowing that there's living versions of his parents and sisters in the past whom he feels he can never ingratiate himself with because they have their own Jaune with them without all the timey-wimey complications, after his family in the original timeline were slaughtered by Tyrian. Still, for every pain and loss in the new timeline, Jaune has a connection he didn't have before to keep living and fighting for, and he presses on, undeterred in his goal of stopping Salem while preventing the deaths of his friends at any cost.
** [[AdaptationalHeroism Adam Taurus]], part of the White Fang from a young age, was inspired by Jaune's actions to achieve equal rights for the Faunus without having to resort to using ''actual'' violence (merely the threat of it) against their opponents, which prevented his worst impulses from growing out of control. When Hazel and Tyrian take over the White Fang, Adam is dismayed as they and Sienna turn the organization into a bloodthirsty terrorist network that he feels spits in the eye of the organization's original cause, and he can't do anything to stop a grieving Blake from being radicalized away from being his former childhood MoralityPet into becoming the same kind of unrepentant murderer that ''he'' could have been, with the White Fang holding her life in front of Adam as a bargaining chip to keep him under heel. All of this drives Adam to ruthlessly ally with Jaune Arc and Winter Schnee to help them brutally take down the White Fang once and for all, on the absolute condition that Blake be spared at the end of it. [[spoiler:Adam succeeds in those goals, and afterwards he takes over Menagerie to bring human-Faunus relations closer to equality... but his victory has come at the cost of the woman he saved disowning him and their former lifelong friendship being destroyed forever]].
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* LateArrivalSpoiler: Jaune traveling farther back than he expected, saving Summer Rose's life, and adopting Emerald were all huge developments when the story first began, but they happened in the first five chapters of a more than 100 chapter story, so they're no longer as important as they were before.

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** Somehow, Jaune Ashai's physical appearance ended up being a dead ringer for [[spoiler:the appearance of Rusted Knight Jaune --
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** Somehow, Jaune Ashai's physical appearance ended up being a dead ringer for [[spoiler:what Rusted Knight Jaune would look like in ''RWBY'' Volume 9]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: Adam is shown to have a scarred face a few months before the same thing was revealed in canon. Not only that, it also retroactively gave further justification to Adam's AdaptationalHeroism: he wasn't scarred by humans, but by someone else in the White Fang, so what is assumed to be a major personal reason for his canon extremism is pointed in the opposite direction.

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** Somehow, Jaune Ashai's physical appearance ended up being a dead ringer for [[spoiler:what Rusted Knight Jaune would look like in ''RWBY'' Volume 9]].
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* OlderThanTheyThink: This isn't exactly the first story Couer wrote of a Jaune from AfterTheEnd that gets sent to the past a little earlier than he expected and even adopted a younger version of someone he knows. He wrote a summary for a similar story in The Writer Games based on a prompt from co-author College Fool.
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** Helena's insistence that Alexander loves his daughters was seen by some as being meant to justify Pyrrha not quitting tournament fighting, as every moment he was in the story seemed to suggest the exact opposite. During Pyrrha's FakeAssassination, Alexander gets in Jaune's way and begs him to spare his daughters with genuine emotion, finally providing evidence for these claims.
** As mentioned under BaseBreakingCharacter, many readers were unhappy at Blake's blatant KarmaHoudini as a result of her joining Beacon despite all of her villainous acts from her time with the White Fang. Chapter 106 then has Summer reveal that the staff are all aware of her history with the White Fang and if she so much as breaths in the wrong way she'll be treated as a threat.
** The first fight between Hazel and Jaune was a complete and utter AntiClimax with AssPull justifications for how everyone involved survived the fight (which even the author himself acknowledged in his notes). The second time they fight, the two go toe to toe for an entire chapter with both of them getting beaten to shreds, Raven's BigDamnHeroes is saved for the very end, and there's a very definitive winner with Hazel's death. Overall, this second duel was treated a lot better than the first one was.
** Raven offering Cinder a place in her tribe, even going so far as to allow her to raid with them and take her spoils afterwards had readers happy for those who believed Cinder would remain said power-hungry psychopath as discussed above. By doing so, Cinder feels more appreciated for her talents, and her lust for power could be sated by asserting her dominance through banditry.
** As mentioned under UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, many felt that Raven was being treated too nicely by Jaune and the narration and that her negative traits were being too downplayed. Chapters 113 and 114 then have Raven willingly leading a raid on an innocent village and applauding her bandits for slaughtering its inhabitants, alongside calling Jaune out for blinding himself to who she really is.
** After all of the problems with Raven calling Jaune selfish for coming back to fix the timeline (which disregarded both her own role in the timeline failing and just how terrible the BadFuture was), the next time Raven tries to claim that he's being selfish by trying to put everything onto himself, Jaune has enough and angrily asks her how exactly he's being selfish. Raven rather noticeably ignores the question instead of trying to answer it.
** To further humanize Cinder, it's revealed that her tutelage under Salem and her punishments wasn't a picnic either, to the point where even ''Jaune'' was horrified, and attempted to stop this abuse. As of Chapter 127, Summer even discusses swaying Cinder from being an apprentice of Salem to Jaune, because he has the combat prowess and influence that Cinder wants.
** Initially, Bertilak demanding Jaune spar with him seemed incredibly unnecessary, meaning Coeur was quickly accused of {{Padding}} and [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants not knowing where he was going in Vacuo]]. The very next chapter turns it into a plot point because Bertilak was testing Jaune's skills to see if he was able to take down the Crown for him, all under the guise of [[ArrogantKungFuGuy arrogance and insecurity]].
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** Helena's insistence that Alexander loves his daughters was seen by some as a ShockingSwerve meant to justify Pyrrha not quitting tournament fighting, as every moment he was in the story seemed to suggest the exact opposite. During Pyrrha's FakeAssassination, Alexander gets in Jaune's way and begs him to spare his daughters with genuine emotion, finally providing evidence for these claims.

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** Helena's insistence that Alexander loves his daughters was seen by some as a ShockingSwerve being meant to justify Pyrrha not quitting tournament fighting, as every moment he was in the story seemed to suggest the exact opposite. During Pyrrha's FakeAssassination, Alexander gets in Jaune's way and begs him to spare his daughters with genuine emotion, finally providing evidence for these claims.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: When Jaune and Qrow face off against Jax & Gillian in Chapter 134, it results in a rather easy win on Jaune's end, as he humiliates Jax with little effort, reverses Gillian's attempt at draining his aura, and ultimately kills him with little fanfare, resulting in his mind-controlled minions returning to normal.
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** [[FutureBadass Jaune Ashari]], determined to prevent the BadFuture no matter the cost, becomes far more intelligent and ruthless than in the original timeline. Originally wandering the planet trying to bide his time for the future, Jaune begins taking active steps against Salem and proves himself her greatest opponent, not only taking out her forces one by one but sabotaging her future plans to prevent her from getting a foothold on Remnant. From uniting Vale's gangs under his own banner, destroying the White Fang in a single evening, using Hazel Rainart's death to [[FalseFlagOperation pose as a mole for Salem's organization]], converting Cinder to his side through promises of power, and even creating a new energy source out of Aura along the way, Jaune's resolve carries him for years, even when he learns that defeating Salem will kill him as well. Managing to steal and unite the Relics, Jaune [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu defeats Salem once again]] despite her attempts to subvert Emerald, returning to the timeline he once abandoned and resolving to continue fixing the world once more.

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** [[FutureBadass [[Characters/RWBYJauneArc Jaune Ashari]], determined to prevent the BadFuture no matter the cost, becomes far more intelligent and ruthless than in the original timeline. Originally wandering the planet trying to bide his time for the future, Jaune begins taking active steps against Salem and proves himself her greatest opponent, not only taking out her forces one by one but sabotaging her future plans to prevent her from getting a foothold on Remnant. From uniting Vale's gangs under his own banner, destroying the White Fang in a single evening, using Hazel Rainart's death to [[FalseFlagOperation pose as a mole for Salem's organization]], converting Cinder to his side through promises of power, and even creating a new energy source out of Aura along the way, Jaune's resolve carries him for years, even when he learns that defeating Salem will kill him as well. Managing to steal and unite the Relics, Jaune [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu defeats Salem once again]] despite her attempts to subvert Emerald, returning to the timeline he once abandoned and resolving to continue fixing the world once more.
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** [[FutureBadass Jaune Ashari]], determined to prevent the BadFuture no matter the cost, becomes far more intelligent and ruthless than in the original timeline. Originally wandering the planet trying to bide his time for the future, Jaune begins taking active steps against Salem and proves himself her greatest opponent, not only taking out her forces one by one but sabotaging her future plans to prevent her from getting a foothold on Remnant. From uniting Vale's gangs under his own banner, destroying the White Fang in a single evening, using Hazel Rainart's death to [[FalseFlagOperation pose as a mole for Salem's organization]], converting Cinder to his side through promises of power, and even creating a new energy source out of Aura along the way, Jaune's resolve carries him for years, even when he learns that defeating Salem will kill him as well. Managing to steal and unite the Relics, Jaune [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu defeats Salem once again]] despite her attempts to subvert Emerald, returning to the timeline he once abandoned and resolving to continue fixing the world once more.
** [[NeutralNoLonger Raven Branwen]], after [[CowardlyLion confronting her cowardice]] and throwing her lot in with Jaune, proves to be just as intelligent as her partner. After using Jaune's mission to render the Relic of Knowledge inert to learn just who he is, Raven begins working both with him and independently to subvert Salem's plans, primarily by training his younger self in her brutal method of combat. [[BigDamnHeroes Saving Jaune's life multiple times with her portals]], Raven consistently plays her part in Jaune's plans to perfection and adds her own ideas, such as giving herself and Jaune [[PlausibleDeniability alibis for Hazel's death]], convincing Ozpin's forces that Nora Valkyrie is the Spring Maiden, using the Maiden powers on Atlas soldiers to provide cover for Watts' kidnapping, and summoning Summer to kill Oscar. Despite her emotional struggles and original cowardly nature, Raven is Jaune's most useful ally and contributes just as much to their partnership as he does.
** [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus Adam Taurus]] is the OnlySaneMan of the [[Characters/RWBYWhiteFang White Fang]] who genuinely believes in the cause he's fighting for. After witnessing Jaune protect them from a mob with the threat of violence, Adam is inspired and helps radicalize the Fang, yet when he sees how far they've fallen, he [[TokenGoodTeammate refuses to sink to their level]]. Becoming the Fang's most useful operative despite his distaste for killing, Adam sees the writing on the wall and concludes the Fang will collapse on itself, seeking a way out for himself. After [[AwesomenessByAnalysis psychoanalyzing Jaune]] and attempting to save him in Menagerie, Adam later conspires with Winter Schnee to wipe out the Fang, preemptively betraying his soldiers before they can kill him and intending to lure the Atlas military to the Fang. Though Jaune kills them first, Adam gets out alive and un-captured with Blake, becoming Chieftan of Menagerie and working with Ironwood to make equality the law.
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* TheWoobie: Emerald. She is introduced into the story as a street urchin who struggles avoid starvation and she gets her arm broken immediately upon introduction. She does get better with time, but her traumatic early childhood left her with some major mental scars, some of which are yet to be fully healed.

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* TheWoobie: Emerald. She is introduced into the story as a street urchin who struggles avoid starvation and she gets her arm broken immediately upon introduction. She does get better with time, but her traumatic early childhood left her with some major mental scars, some of which are yet to be fully healed.healed.
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* CompleteMonster: [[PsychopathicManchild Jax Asturias]] is the leader of the Crown, a HumanTrafficking organization working to install him as King of Vacuo. With his Semblance of MindControl, Jax enslaves anyone who crosses his path to recruit them for his "army", including winners of the fight club he manages and even children as young as eight; their minds and personality are left intact, yet [[AndIMustScream they can do nothing to stop him]]. Desperate for others to feed his ego, he also makes a plan to enslave Rashem, force him to run Vacuo's economy into the ground, and then kill him; if it had succeeded, Rashem's pregnant wife would have been killed as well. Jax's ego has him override his sister and Carmine and attack Jaune Ashari and Qrow Branwen, using his enslaved army of unarmed and untrained civilians to ensure [[DirtyCoward he doesn't have to get his hands dirty himself]], all out of a childish belief that Vacuo is all his.

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** [[EvilGenius Dr. Arthur Watts]], one of Salem's [[Characters/RWBYSalemsFaction top lieutenants]], is a petty and narcissistic sociopath who cares for nothing but his own ego. Joining Salem's cause over a nonexistent slight against him, Watts is willing to do anything required of him with no qualms or regrets, including personally kidnapping two 10-year-old children and leading another kidnapping of a teenager. When Jaune offers to cut him in on a deal for a new energy source, Watts takes offense, believing that Jaune is implying that he is smarter by declaring him a "partner". In response, Watts [[YourSoulIsMine steals Winter's soul]] and leaves her an [[EmptyShell empty and comatose shell]], taking glee in the fact that he's too valuable to Salem's cause to be punished. When Jaune follows him to Argus, Watts takes the entire city's power grid hostage, declaring that if Jaune attempts to catch him, he'll throw the entire city back into the Stone Age, starting with the city's hospital. Believing himself [[AGodAmI akin to a God]] because of his computer skills, Watts spreads nothing but terror and death wherever he goes.
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* CompleteMonster: [[PsychopathicManchild Jax Asturias]] is the leader of the Crown, a HumanTrafficking organization working to install him as King of Vacuo. With his Semblance of MindControl, Jax enslaves anyone who crosses his path to recruit them for his "army", including winners of the fight club he manages and even children as young as eight; their minds and personality are left intact, yet [[AndIMustScream they can do nothing to stop him]]. Desperate for others to feed his ego, he also makes a plan to enslave Rashem, force him to run Vacuo's economy into the ground, and then kill him; if it had succeeded, Rashem's pregnant wife would have been killed as well. Jax's ego has him override his sister and Carmine and attack Jaune Ashari and Qrow Branwen, using his enslaved army of unarmed and untrained civilians to ensure [[DirtyCoward he doesn't have to get his hands dirty himself]], all out of a childish belief that Vacuo is all his.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: When Jaune and Qrow face of against Jax & Gillian in Chapter 134, in results in a rather easy win on Jaune's end, as he humiliates Jax with little effort, reverses Gillian's attempt at draining his aura, and ultimately kills him with little fanfare, resulting in his mind-controlled minions to returning to normal.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: When he and Qrow face of against Jax & Gillian in Chapter 134, in results in a rather easy win on Jaune's ends, as he humiliates Jax with littler effort, reverse Gillian's attempt at draining his aura and ultimately kills him, resulting in his mind-controlled minions to return to normal.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: When he Jaune and Qrow face of against Jax & Gillian in Chapter 134, in results in a rather easy win on Jaune's ends, end, as he humiliates Jax with littler little effort, reverse reverses Gillian's attempt at draining his aura aura, and ultimately kills him, him with little fanfare, resulting in his mind-controlled minions to return returning to normal.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: When he and Qrow face of against Jax & Gillian in Chapter 134, in results in a rather easy win on Jaune's ends, as he humiliates Jax with littler effort, reverse Gillian's attempt at draining his aura and ultimately kills him, resulting in his mind-controlled minions to return to normal.
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** Initially, Bertilak demanding Jaune spar with him seemed incredibly unnecessary, meaning Coeur was quickly accused of {{Padding}} and [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants not knowing where he was going in Vacuo]]. The very next chapter turns it into a plot point because Bertilak was testing Jaune's skills to see if he was able to take down the Crown for him, all under the guise of [[ArrogantKungFuGuy arrogance and insecurity]].


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* ItWasHisSled: Team STRQ features prominently in the artwork on the story, including Summer, making it incredibly obvious that they all have big parts to play. This spoils both the fact that Jaune travelled farther in the past than intended as well as Summer's survival.
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** To further humanize Cinder, it's revealed that her tutelage under Salem and her punishments wasn't a picnic either, to the point where even ''Jaune'' was horrified, and attempted to stop this abuse. As of Chapter 127, Summer even discusses swaying Cinder from being an apprentice of Salem to Jaune, because he has the combat prowess and influence that Cinder wants.
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** After all of the problems with Raven calling Jaune selfish for coming back to fix the timeline (which disregarded both her own role in the timeline failing and just how terrible the BadFuture was), the next time Raven tries to claim that he's being selfish by trying to put everything onto himself, Jaune has enough and angrily asks her how exactly he's being selfish. Raven rather noticeably ignores the question instead of trying to answer it.


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** After Jaune accepts Salem's mark, Raven lectures Jaune on how he could have run away and made an escape with her portals instead of letting Salem mark him. Jaune doesn't try to defend himself during this conversation, implying we're meant to think she's right, but this argument disregards the fact that Salem was ''three feet away'' from him in the entire conversation, the castle was surrounded by Grimm, Tyrian was still inside, and Cinder was ''right next to him'', so even if he had wanted to decline he truly didn't have any way he could escape.

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