History YMMV / PuellaMagiMadokaMagica

24th Jan '18 3:27:21 AM RandomnessUnlimited
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*** Furthermore, was [[spoiler:her wish to redo time to protect Madoka]] out of a genunine desire to [[spoiler:save her best friend]] or simply to [[spoiler:validate her own existence]]? This can also generally apply to all her actions afterwards.

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*** Furthermore, was [[spoiler:her wish to redo time to protect Madoka]] out of a genunine genuine desire to [[spoiler:save her best friend]] or simply to [[spoiler:validate her own existence]]? This can also generally apply to all her actions afterwards.
19th Jan '18 6:49:22 AM KeitaTakesato
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*** With the entire works of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' as well, so much that it would be regularly seen where both would be mentioned in discussions.


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** Noticeably, the fans of ''Madoka Magica'' series are also rather amicable and cool with (if not vice versa) the fans of ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'', given that the titular main characters of both series [[spoiler: (Homura and Okabe)]] have to endure the same kind of suffering and journey for their respective stories, namely [[spoiler: repeating and reliving the deaths of their best friends to find a way to save them.]]
15th Jan '18 1:33:28 PM MasterN
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** Homura can be considered a CompositeCharacter of various characters from the ''[[Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} Fate]]'' series: her AntiHero normal self has been compared to [[LightNovel/FateZero Kiritsugu Emiya]]; [[spoiler: her ShrinkingViolet [[TheWoobie Woobie]] self Moemura]] corresponds to ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''ís [[spoiler:Sakura Matou]]; her role and character arc in ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is similar to [[spoiler: Bazett Fraga [=McRemitz=]]] from ''VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia'', and [[spoiler: her SuperpoweredEvilSide Homucifer]] is reminiscent of [[spoiler:Dark Sakura]].
9th Jan '18 3:46:17 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Some viewers have noted [[spoiler: while the ending's tone is hopeful and upbeat, it still implies that the remaining magical girls aren't long for this world, and they will only be reunited with Madoka and Sayaka in the afterlife.]]
9th Jan '18 1:13:10 PM Sakubara
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** The fandom and even ''Portable'' also tend to exaggerate [[TheScrappy Hitomi and Kyousuke's]] flaws making them out to be a BitchInSheepsClothing and BastardBoyfriend respectively when in reality they're more [[UnwillingInstigatorOfDoom Unwilling Instigators Of Doom]] unaware and not even being aware that the magical stuff even exists ([[spoiler: not counting certain routes in ''Portable'' in Kyousuke's case]]). But not a whole lot of people tend to ignore that in favor of their more soap opera-ish version.
5th Jan '18 1:08:14 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Hitomi gets a ''lot'' of flak from the fanbase because she told Sayaka that she has 24 hours to tell Kyosuke her feelings (which is usually regarded as far too little time for such a decision), or else she will confess, and this causes trouble with Sayaka (who feels she can't confess because of what she has become as a magical girl), or simply [[DieForOurShip they think Sayaka would be better with him]]. Also doesn't help in Rebellion, when fans feel she complains about trivial things (like her boyfriend not paying attention to her in favour of studying) when the rest of the cast are embroiled in life or death struggles. She was, however, constantly LockedOutOfTheLoop for the entire series' run about the magical girl situation.
** You'd be very hard-pressed to find a fan who ''likes'' Kyosuke. At best, fans are neutral towards him. At worst, people loathe him for being a [[HetIsEw male]] in a show full of yuri subtext (which is often solved by [[RuleSixtyThree gender-flipping]] him) and being an [[DieForOurShip "obstacle"]] to Kyoko/Sayaka, not telling Sayaka that he got out of the hospital, and being an UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom [[RonTheDeathEater (though the former is often blown out of proportion by some fans to make him look irredeemably horrible)]], or being a "dense idiot" who committed the 'crime' of being ObliviousToLove and didn't deserve Sayaka ''or'' [[spoiler:Hitomi's]] love. Fans gained more reason to hate him when he reacts [[FreakOut poorly]] to [[spoiler:[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-na_Bzmvk4 Sayaka's appearance]] in a BadEnding of the PSP game]], and when WordOfGod stated that even if Sayaka had ended up with him, he would've deserted her on dates in favor of practicing his violin which he did [[spoiler: to Hitomi]] in ''Rebellion''.

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** Hitomi gets a ''lot'' of flak from the fanbase because she told Sayaka that she has 24 hours to tell Kyosuke her feelings (which (LockedOutOfTheLoop about why this wouldn't work for Sayaka aside, this is usually regarded as far too little time for such a decision), or else she will confess, and this causes trouble with Sayaka (who feels she can't confess because of what she has become as a magical girl), or simply [[DieForOurShip they think Sayaka would be better with him]]. Also doesn't help in Rebellion, ''Rebellion'', when fans feel she complains about trivial things (like her boyfriend not paying attention to her in favour of studying) when the rest of the cast are embroiled in life or death struggles. She was, however, constantly LockedOutOfTheLoop for the entire series' run about the magical girl situation.
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** You'd be very hard-pressed to find a fan who ''likes'' Kyosuke. At best, fans are neutral towards him. At worst, people loathe him for being a [[HetIsEw male]] in a show full of yuri subtext (which is often solved by [[RuleSixtyThree gender-flipping]] him) and being an [[DieForOurShip "obstacle"]] to Kyoko/Sayaka, not telling Sayaka that he got out of the hospital, and being an UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom [[RonTheDeathEater (though the former is often blown out of proportion by some fans to make him look irredeemably horrible)]], or being a "dense idiot" who committed the 'crime' of being ObliviousToLove and didn't deserve Sayaka ''or'' [[spoiler:Hitomi's]] love. Fans gained more reason to hate him when he reacts [[FreakOut poorly]] to [[spoiler:[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-na_Bzmvk4 Sayaka's appearance]] in a BadEnding of the PSP game]], and when WordOfGod stated that even if Sayaka had ended up with him, he would've deserted her on dates in favor of practicing his violin which he did [[spoiler: to Hitomi]] in ''Rebellion''.game]].
29th Dec '17 10:04:30 AM RagingHigher
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** Hearing all the hype about this series as a {{Deconstruction}} of magical girls can be annoying to people that have already watched series that have done that (particularly since a noticeable portion of Madoka's fanbase has SmallReferencePools regarding the genre), especially since a lot of elements of Madoka fall more under "element played darker and edgier" than actual deconstruction.
** This could be the case depending where you live in, as although succesful in both regions, the show is nowhere near as loved in Europe as is in US. Many people, especially the ones to which ''Madoka'' was not their gate to anime nor their first {{Deconstruction}} series, believe that while the anime is good, it is definitely not as good as the sheer amount of fandom, reviews and promotion in internet might lead to think, nor as deep or revolutionary those review commonly advocate. It doesn't help that ''Madoka'' is one of the most memetic animes ever and that SHAFT capitalized on it by launching spin-offs and merchandising nonstop, so for many years it was pretty much everywhere on the internet yet at the same time it did not get actually developed beyond the 12 episode series - at least until the movies, which brought their own controversy to the table.
*** Part of the fault was the overhype done by distribution companies when the anime was licensed in countries like Spain and France, where it came too much time after its jump to fame in internet and it had not the same impact anymore. With the exception of the spin-off mangas, which were generally well received, the licensed anime was underlooked by many fans as it was being promoted as the next big thing when most of the ''Madoka'' craze had faded.

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** Hearing all the hype about this series as a {{Deconstruction}} of magical girls can be annoying to people that who have already watched series that have done that (particularly since a noticeable portion of Madoka's fanbase has SmallReferencePools regarding the genre), especially since a lot of elements of Madoka fall genre). It turns even heater with the existent debate about whether ''Madoka'' works more under "element played darker and edgier" than as an actual deconstruction.
deconstruction or an elaborated yet regular DarkerAndEdgier take on the genre.
** This could be the case depending where you live in, as although succesful in both regions, the show is nowhere near as loved in Europe as is in US. Many people, especially the ones to which ''Madoka'' was not their gate to anime nor their first {{Deconstruction}} series, believe that while the anime is good, it is definitely not as good as the sheer amount of fandom, reviews and promotion in internet might lead to think, nor as deep or revolutionary those review commonly advocate. It doesn't help that ''Madoka'' is one of the most memetic animes ever and that SHAFT capitalized on it ''Madoka'''s uber-memetic status by launching spin-offs and merchandising nonstop, so for many years it with the effect that the franchise was pretty much everywhere on the internet for many years yet at the same time it did not get actually developed beyond the 12 episode series - at least until the movies, which brought their own controversy to the table.
*** Part of the fault was ** It has to be noted the overhype done by distribution companies when the anime was licensed in countries like Spain and France, where it came too much time after its jump to fame in internet and rhus it had not didn't have the same impact anymore. With the exception of the spin-off mangas, which were generally well received, the licensed anime was underlooked by many fans as people because it was being promoted as the next big thing when most of the ''Madoka'' craze had faded.



* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: While the Spanish dub of the series was generally well received, with critics noting that Creator/CarmenAmbros did an awesome work as Madoka and that Inmaculada Villalonga made it look like Creator/EmiriKatou could speak Spanish like a native, Creator/AriadnaJimenez's Homura was ''strongly'' critized. People pointed how not only that she was a bizarre choice to play such character, but also that, although she clearly did her best, her acting sounded as if Homura was ill with laringitis. Some suggested that Creator/CarmenCalvell, who played Sayaka, would have been a much better choice to play Homura, and even that Jiménez herself, in case of not wanting to ditch her, would have done it really good as Sayaka in Calvell's place.

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* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: While the Spanish dub of the series was generally well received, with critics noting that Creator/CarmenAmbros did an awesome work as Madoka and that Inmaculada Villalonga made it look like Creator/EmiriKatou could had magically learned to speak Spanish like a native, Creator/AriadnaJimenez's Homura was ''strongly'' critized. People pointed how not only that she was a bizarre choice to play such character, but also that, although she clearly did her best, her acting sounded as if Homura was ill with had laringitis. Some suggested that Creator/CarmenCalvell, who played Sayaka, would have been a much better choice to play Homura, and even that Jiménez herself, in case of not wanting to ditch her, would have done it really good as Sayaka in Calvell's place.
12th Dec '17 11:58:09 AM Anddrix
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* FandomRivalry: A given considering the nature and tone of the series, which makes it something of a LoveItOrHateIt among the MagicalGirl genre's fandom. Its fans not only quarrel with the fans of traditional MagicalGirl shows such as ''Anime/SailorMoon'' and ''Anime/PrettyCure'', but also the fandoms of fellow dark shows such as ''Anime/PrincessTutu'' and ''Anime/IlSolePenetraLeIllusioni''.

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* FandomRivalry: A given considering the nature and tone of the series, which makes it something of a LoveItOrHateIt among the MagicalGirl genre's fandom.series. Its fans not only quarrel with the fans of traditional MagicalGirl shows such as ''Anime/SailorMoon'' and ''Anime/PrettyCure'', but also the fandoms of fellow dark shows such as ''Anime/PrincessTutu'' and ''Anime/IlSolePenetraLeIllusioni''.
11th Dec '17 8:28:42 AM urutapu
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* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: Let's keep this ''as clear as possible'': the majority[[note]]which would be anywhere between 50%-80%[[/note]] of these spoilers have circulated the internet five times over, and knowing most of them before watching isn't uncommon. Even though the anime didn't not have a proper English release until March 2012, a newcomer to the series will have to wonder about the [[TroperCriticalMass size of this page]] and the [[LateArrivalSpoiler rather large amount of spoiler tags]]. In other words, this page is TemptingFate for anyone who reads it. You, on the other hand, have been warned.

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* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: Let's keep this ''as clear as possible'': the majority[[note]]which would be anywhere between 50%-80%[[/note]] of these spoilers have circulated the internet five times over, and knowing most of them before watching isn't uncommon. Even though the anime didn't not have a proper English release until March 2012, a newcomer to the series will have to wonder about the [[TroperCriticalMass size of this page]] and the [[LateArrivalSpoiler rather large amount of spoiler tags]]. In other words, this page is TemptingFate for anyone who reads it. You, on the other hand, have been warned.
10th Dec '17 1:58:19 PM MasterN
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** Kyubey is this for any dark variation of the SeriesMascot, particularly [[VisualNovel/{{DanganRonpa}} Monokuma]] and [[Manga/{{Bokurano}} Koemushi]].

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** Kyubey [[spoiler:Kyubey]] is this for any [[spoiler:any dark variation of the SeriesMascot, particularly [[VisualNovel/{{DanganRonpa}} Monokuma]] and [[Manga/{{Bokurano}} Koemushi]].Koemushi/Dung Beetle]]]].
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