History YMMV / PuellaMagiMadokaMagica

28th Jun '16 9:22:08 AM NausicaaoftheSpirits
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** Sayaka's use of the phrase "For realz?" sounds so painfully out of place in the English dub.
2nd Jun '16 8:27:45 AM ImpudentInfidel
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*** There's also a branch that doesn't believe his [[spoiler: VillainsNeverLie claims and think everything he told Madoka about his motives, how his efforts have aided humanity, and how he's emotionless are complete bullshit. He's canonically a ConsummateLiar in all but the most technical sense anyway.]]
2nd May '16 5:00:38 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Sayaka herself has garnered divisive opinions. Depending on the fan, she's either a very well-done and sympathetic [[FallenHero tragic character]], or a whiny WhiteKnight who felt [[EntitledToHaveYou unnecessarily entitled]] to Kyosuke's love.

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** Sayaka herself has garnered divisive opinions. Depending on the fan, she's either a very well-done and sympathetic [[FallenHero tragic character]], or a whiny WhiteKnight who and felt [[EntitledToHaveYou unnecessarily entitled]] to Kyosuke's love.
17th Apr '16 7:32:33 AM Edgar81539
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** The two men on the train [[spoiler:when they brag about how they mistreat their girlfriends and have a laugh about it while belittling their intelligence and love for them. Given that they helped make Sayaka give up on being a hero, their implied death was rightly deserved]].
11th Apr '16 7:45:09 PM n3xus
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* CounterpartComparison
** Kyubey is this for any dark variation of the SeriesMascot, particularly [[VisualNovel/{{DanganRonpa}} Monokuma]] and [[Manga/{{Bokurano}} Koemushi]].
** Sayaka: with her water motif, headstrong nature, and her calling herself a UsefulNotes/{{baka}} [[spoiler:in a crucial part of the story]], it's inevitable that she would be compared to Cirno, the [[SmallNameBigEgo boastful]] yet [[TheDitz childish]] [[AnIcePerson ice fairy]] of ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}''.



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** Kyubey is this for any dark variation of the SeriesMascot, particularly [[VisualNovel/{{DanganRonpa}} Monokuma]] and [[Manga/{{Bokurano}} Koemushi]].
** Sayaka: with her water motif, headstrong nature, and her calling herself a UsefulNotes/{{baka}} [[spoiler:in a crucial part of the story]], it's inevitable that she would be compared to Cirno, the [[SmallNameBigEgo boastful]] yet [[TheDitz childish]] [[AnIcePerson ice fairy]] of ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}''.
28th Mar '16 2:01:08 PM MagBas
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*** There are also those who believe Madoka [[spoiler: to be a MarySue due to the implications that she is the most powerful character in the series, again, despite not doing ''anything''. However, just like many other tropes in the series, this is deconstructed, explained and [[JustifiedTrope justified]] to hell and back; again, ''Homura'' is the one to make Madoka more powerful with every timeline, and it therefore becomes even more crucial for Homura to prevent her best friend from becoming a magical girl. Or so it seems.]]
20th Mar '16 2:32:19 PM StFan
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----
!!Examples



--->But the truth is I'm not really that strong.
--->Both the scenery and the city are the same as always
--->Even though I expected nothing would change,
--->I still think I'm the only one who is small.

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--->But --->''But the truth is I'm not really that strong.
--->Both
strong.\\
Both
the scenery and the city are the same as always
--->Even
always\\
Even
though I expected nothing would change,
--->I
change,\\
I
still think I'm the only one who is small.''



** Mami, to [[spoiler: [[MuvLuvAlternative Drill Sgt. Marimo Jinguuji]]. Both blonde-haired mentors who got their heads bitten off, signalling their respective series' shift into darker territory. The author of the ongoing manga serialization of ''Alternative'' [[http://www.wiiyi.com/mh/1659/95939.shtml?p=21 decided to do a little shout out back]].]]

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** Mami, to [[spoiler: [[MuvLuvAlternative [[VisualNovel/MuvLuvAlternative Drill Sgt. Marimo Jinguuji]]. Both blonde-haired mentors who got their heads bitten off, signalling their respective series' shift into darker territory. The author of the ongoing manga serialization of ''Alternative'' [[http://www.wiiyi.com/mh/1659/95939.shtml?p=21 decided to do a little shout out back]].]]
18th Mar '16 7:04:52 PM Edgar81539
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** [[http://missturdle.tumblr.com/post/46471029695/on-the-importance-of-magical-girl-heroines This essay]] offers another view of Kyubey:
---> Kyubey isn't the devil. Kyubey is the society we live in, which takes up and preys on young girls at vulnerable times in their lives, and asks them to be perfect. Society asks girls to fight against evil, the icky, awful, and impure, and it keeps asking until we say yes. Yes to being beautiful, and perfect, and good, and pure, and sweet, yes to being a nice young lady, yes to fighting everything that is bad and evil and dangerous - to fighting the things that threaten us and our friends. \\
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Except there's a catch. We're fighting ourselves. What they don't tell you, society, or Kyubey in this metaphor, is that there is no way to prevent yourself from becoming what you started out fighting. You lose, in this scenario, every time. At some point, a young, "emotionally volatile" girl grows up and becomes a woman. One day, you hit puberty, or maybe you haven't yet, and someone leers at you, or looks at you wrong, or calls after you and you are suddenly made aware of the fact that being a woman is dangerous. Growing up means something incredibly different for girls than it does boys.
18th Mar '16 7:03:51 PM Edgar81539
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** Website/SFDebris has [[http://sfdebris.com/videos/anime/madoka.php much to say]] on the subject. You can read about them on [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation/SFDebris his page]].
%%Please don't add it back. This is for general fandom stuff instead of one person's opinion.



* {{Applicability}}: It has been object of academic analysis, like in this essay: ''[[http://labsome.rmit.edu.au/files/simongoughthesis.pdf Remember Madoka: Trangressing the Magical Girl]]''.



* DeconstructionFic: ''Fanfic/MagicaMadokaVeneficusPuella'' is one example.
1st Mar '16 7:23:49 AM Kindle4Light
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** It's hard to read the analogy between ''Madoka Magica'' and female sexuality in the [[Analysis/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica analysis page]] with a straight face if you've read a {{Rule34}} AlternateUniverse {{Doujinshi}} where instead of magical girls, the girls become literal prostitutes.
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