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* HarsherInHindsight: In "Caught, Can We Get a Witness?" they seem adamant about never 'Selling Out'. A couple of decades and mounting Child Support payments later, Flav needed some cash, and, once Creator/VH1 came calling...
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* HarsherInHindsight: In "Caught, Can We Get a Witness?" they seem adamant about never 'Selling Out'. "selling out". A couple of decades and mounting Child Support child support payments later, Flav needed some cash, and, once Creator/VH1 came calling...calling, it resulted in him starring in the infamous reality television dating game show ''Flavor of Love''.
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* GatewaySeries: PE were the gateway for thousands of -- mostly white -- new fans to Hip-Hop in the late-80's, early-90's. Their aggressive, noisy production can appeal to
metal fans, not to mention things like collaborating with {{Music/Anthrax}} on a remix of "Bring The Noise" or basing "She Watch Channel Zero?!" around a {{Music/Slayer}} sample. They have a reputation for this to this day, at least for those [[PeripheryDemographic new to the genre]].
metal fans, not to mention things like collaborating with {{Music/Anthrax}} on a remix of "Bring The Noise" or basing "She Watch Channel Zero?!" around a {{Music/Slayer}} sample. They have a reputation for this to this day, at least for those [[PeripheryDemographic new to the genre]].
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* GatewaySeries: PE were the gateway for thousands of -- mostly white -- new fans to Hip-Hop in the late-80's, early-90's. Their aggressive, noisy production can appeal to
to metal fans, not to mention things like collaborating with {{Music/Anthrax}} on a remix of "Bring The Noise" or basing "She Watch Channel Zero?!" around a {{Music/Slayer}} sample. They have a reputation for this to this day, at least for those [[PeripheryDemographic new to the genre]].
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* GatewaySeries: PE were the gateway for thousands of -- mostly white -- new fans to Hip-Hop in the late-80's, early-90's. Their aggressive, noisy production can appeal to
metal fans, not to mention things like collaborating with {{Music/Anthrax}} on a remix of "Bring The Noise" or basing "She Watch Channel Zero?!" around a {{Music/Slayer}} sample. They have a reputation for this to this day, at least for those [[PeripheryDemographic new to the genre]].
metal fans, not to mention things like collaborating with {{Music/Anthrax}} on a remix of "Bring The Noise" or basing "She Watch Channel Zero?!" around a {{Music/Slayer}} sample. They have a reputation for this to this day, at least for those [[PeripheryDemographic new to the genre]].
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* AwardSnub: Snubbed by a ''single track'' no less. ''Apocalypse 91... The Enemy Strikes Black'' was beaten out for Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group at the 34th Grammy awards by the Music/DJJazzyJeffAndTheFreshPrincr single "Summertime".
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* AwardSnub: Snubbed by a ''single track'' no less. ''Apocalypse 91... The Enemy Strikes Black'' was beaten out for Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group at the 34th Grammy awards by the Music/DJJazzyJeffAndTheFreshPrincr Music/DJJazzyJeffAndTheFreshPrince single "Summertime".
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* AwardSnub: Snubbed by a ''single track'' no less. ''Apocalypse 91... The Enemy Strikes Black'' was beaten out for Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group at the 34th Grammy awards by the Creator/WillSmith single "Summertime".
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* AwardSnub: Snubbed by a ''single track'' no less. ''Apocalypse 91... The Enemy Strikes Black'' was beaten out for Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group at the 34th Grammy awards by the Creator/WillSmith Music/DJJazzyJeffAndTheFreshPrincr single "Summertime".
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Don't Sink Hole the trope name.
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* [[GatewaySeries Gateway Music]]: PE were this for thousands of -- mostly white -- new fans to Hip-Hop in the late-80's, early-90's. They have a reputation for this to this day, at least for those [[PeripheryDemographic new to the genre]].
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* [[GatewaySeries Gateway Music]]: GatewaySeries: PE were this the gateway for thousands of -- mostly white -- new fans to Hip-Hop in the late-80's, early-90's. They have a reputation for this to this day, at least for those [[PeripheryDemographic new to the genre]].
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** A possible case of HoistByHisOwnPetard: "Terminator X to the Edge of Panic" (from ''Nation of Millions'') includes the line, "Who gives a fuck about a goddamn Grammy?" Maybe the voters took them at their word?
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* [[GatewaySeries Gateway Music]]: PE were this for thousands of -- mostly white -- new fans to Hip-Hop in the late-80's, early-90's. They have a reputation for this to this day, at least for those [[PeripheryDemographic new to the genre]].
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* EthnicScrappy + MagicalNegro: Bashed to hell and back on "Burn Hollywood Burn" from ''Music/FearOfABlackPlanet'', with Music/IceCube and Big Daddy Kane joining the fun.
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**A possible case of HoistByHisOwnPetard: "Terminator X to the Edge of Panic" (from ''Nation of Millions'') includes the line, "Who gives a fuck about a goddamn Grammy?" Maybe the voters took them at their word?
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As a Sugar Wiki item, moving to its own subpage.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: When they were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2013, they performed "Fight the Power" as part of a medley. This included the line "Now [[Music/ElvisPresley Elvis]] was a hero to most/But he never meant shit to me" and its accompanying accusations of Elvis being racist. Elvis was one of the ''very first Rock Hall inductees'' in 1986. The fact that the group had the balls to slander any past inductee (let alone Elvis) at the ceremony is pretty amazing. And the crowd loved it.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In "Caught, Can We Get a Witness?" they seem adamant about never 'Selling Out'. A couple of decades and mounting Child Support payments later, Flav needed some cash, and, once VH1 Creator/VH1 came calling...
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: When they were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2013, they performed "Fight the Power" as part of a medley. This included the line "Now [[Music/ElvisPresley Elvis]] was a hero to most/But he never meant shit to me" and its accompanying accusations of Elvis being racist. Elvis was one of the ''very first Rock Hall inductees'' in 1986. The fact that the group had the balls to slander any past inductee (let alone Elvis) at the ceremony is pretty amazing. And the crowd loved it.
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* SequelDisplacement: ''Music/ItTakesANationOfMillionsToHoldUsBack'' makes it so easy to forget it's their second album...
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* MagnumOpus: Usually considered to be either ''Music/ItTakesANationOfMillionsToHoldUsBack'' or ''Music/FearOfABlackPlanet''.
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* AwardSnub: Snubbed by a ''single track'' no less. ''Apocalypse 91... The Enemy Strikes Black'' was beaten out for Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group at the 34th Grammy awards by the forgettable Creator/WillSmith single "Summertime".
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* AwardSnub: Snubbed by a ''single track'' no less. ''Apocalypse 91... The Enemy Strikes Black'' was beaten out for Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group at the 34th Grammy awards by the forgettable Creator/WillSmith single "Summertime".
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* MagnumOpus: Usually considered to be either ''Music/ItTakesANationOfMillionsToHoldUsBack'' or ''Music/FearOfABlackPlanet''.
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* EthnicScrappy + MagicalNegro: Bashed to hell and back on "Burn Hollywood Burn", with Music/IceCube and Big Daddy Kane joining the fun.
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* EthnicScrappy + MagicalNegro: Bashed to hell and back on "Burn Hollywood Burn", Burn" from ''Music/FearOfABlackPlanet'', with Music/IceCube and Big Daddy Kane joining the fun.
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* SequelDisplacement: ''Nation of Millions'' ''Music/ItTakesANationOfMillionsToHoldUsBack'' makes it so easy to forget it's their second album...
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unfortunate implications need citations.
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* UnfortunateImplications: ''It Takes a Nation of Millions...'' has only three songs with profanity, about as many as DeLaSoul's ''3 Feet High and Rising''. Yet only PE got the Parental Advisory Sticker. [[SarcasmMode Gee, how could]] [[AngryBlackMan THAT]] [[MoralGuardians be?]]
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* UnfortunateImplications: ''It Takes a Nation of Millions...'' has only three songs with profanity, about as many as DeLaSoul's ''3 Feet High and Rising''. Yet only PE got the Parental Advisory Sticker. [[SarcasmMode Gee, how could]] [[AngryBlackMan THAT be?]]
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* UnfortunateImplications: ''It Takes a Nation of Millions...'' has only three songs with profanity, about as many as DeLaSoul's ''3 Feet High and Rising''. Yet only PE got the Parental Advisory Sticker. [[SarcasmMode Gee, how could]] [[AngryBlackMan THAT THAT]] [[MoralGuardians be?]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: In "Caught, Can We Get a Witness?" they seem adamant about never 'Selling Out'. A couple of decades and mounting Child Support payments later, Flav needed some cash, and, once VH1 came calling...
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* UnfortunateImplications: ''It Takes a Nation of Millions...'' has only three songs with profanity, about as many as DeLaSoul's ''3 Feet High and Rising''. Yet PE got the Parental Advisory Sticker. [[SarcasmMode Gee, how could]] [[AngryBlackMan THAT be?]]
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* UnfortunateImplications: ''It Takes a Nation of Millions...'' has only three songs with profanity, about as many as DeLaSoul's ''3 Feet High and Rising''. Yet only PE got the Parental Advisory Sticker. [[SarcasmMode Gee, how could]] [[AngryBlackMan THAT be?]]
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* UnfortunateImplications: ''It Takes a Nation of Millions...'' has only three songs with profanity, about as many as DeLaSoul's ''3 Feet High and Rising''. Yet PE got the Parental Advisory Sticker. [[SarcasmMode Gee, how could]] [[AngryBlackMan THAT be?]]
* UnfortunateImplications: ''It Takes a Nation of Millions...'' has only three songs with profanity, about as many as DeLaSoul's ''3 Feet High and Rising''. Yet PE got the Parental Advisory Sticker. [[SarcasmMode Gee, how could]] [[AngryBlackMan THAT be?]]
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* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat, man!")... but they'll sue Music/{{Madonna}} for using the "Security of the First World" beat in "Justify My Love"?
** More justifiable, though: Chuck D sued TheNotoriousBIG for sampling his countdown from "Shut 'Em Down" in "Ten Crack Commandments", being incensed about the way he was sampled in a song about crack dealing despite being outspokenly critical of drug dealing.
* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat, man!")... but they'll sue Music/{{Madonna}} for using the "Security of the First World" beat in "Justify My Love"?
** More justifiable, though: Chuck D sued TheNotoriousBIG for sampling his countdown from "Shut 'Em Down" in "Ten Crack Commandments", being incensed about the way he was sampled in a song about crack dealing despite being outspokenly critical of drug dealing.
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* SequelDisplacement: ''Nation of Millions'' makes it so easy to forget it's their second album...
* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat, man!")... but they'll sue Music/{{Madonna}} for using the "Security of the First World" beat in "Justify My Love"?
** More justifiable, though: Chuck D sued TheNotoriousBIG for sampling his countdown from "Shut 'Em Down" in "Ten Crack Commandments", being incensed about the way he was sampled in a song about crack dealing despite being outspokenly critical of drug dealing.album...
* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat, man!")... but they'll sue Music/{{Madonna}} for using the "Security of the First World" beat in "Justify My Love"?
** More justifiable, though: Chuck D sued TheNotoriousBIG for sampling his countdown from "Shut 'Em Down" in "Ten Crack Commandments", being incensed about the way he was sampled in a song about crack dealing despite being outspokenly critical of drug dealing.
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* AwardSnub: Snubbed by a ''single track'' no less. ''Apocalypse 91... The Enemy Strikes Black'' was beaten out for Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group at the 34th Grammy awards by the forgettable Creator/WillSmith single "Summertime".
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* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat, man!"). But later, Chuck D sued TheNotoriousBIG for sampling his countdown from "Shut 'Em Down" in "Ten Crack Commandments", being incensed about the way he was sampled in a song about crack dealing despite being outspokenly critical of drug dealing.
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* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat, man!"). But later, man!")... but they'll sue Music/{{Madonna}} for using the "Security of the First World" beat in "Justify My Love"?
** More justifiable, though: Chuck D sued TheNotoriousBIG for sampling his countdown from "Shut 'Em Down" in "Ten Crack Commandments", being incensed about the way he was sampled in a song about crack dealing despite being outspokenly critical of drug dealing.
** More justifiable, though: Chuck D sued TheNotoriousBIG for sampling his countdown from "Shut 'Em Down" in "Ten Crack Commandments", being incensed about the way he was sampled in a song about crack dealing despite being outspokenly critical of drug dealing.
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* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat, man!"). But later, Chuck D sued TheNotoriousBIG for sampling his countdown from "Shut 'Em Down" in "Ten Crack Commandments", arguing that it attacked with his StraightEdge DrugsAreBad public image.
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* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat, man!"). But later, Chuck D sued TheNotoriousBIG for sampling his countdown from "Shut 'Em Down" in "Ten Crack Commandments", arguing that it attacked with his StraightEdge DrugsAreBad public image.being incensed about the way he was sampled in a song about crack dealing despite being outspokenly critical of drug dealing.
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[citation needed] on Madonna. Ingrid Chavez is the one who sued for songwriting credit in 1992.
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* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat, man!")... but three years later, they sue Madonna for using the "Security Of The First World" beat in "Justify My Love"?
* SequelDisplacement - ''Nation of Millions'' makes it so easy to forget it's their second album...
* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat, man!")... but three years later, they sue Madonna for using the "Security Of The First World" beat in "Justify My Love"?
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* EthnicScrappy + MagicalNegro - MagicalNegro: Bashed to hell and back on "Burn Hollywood Burn", with Music/IceCube and Big Daddy Kane joining the fun.
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* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat,man!")... but three years man!"). But later, they sue Madonna Chuck D sued TheNotoriousBIG for using the "Security Of The First World" beat sampling his countdown from "Shut 'Em Down" in "Justify My Love"?"Ten Crack Commandments", arguing that it attacked with his StraightEdge DrugsAreBad public image.
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* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat,
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* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat, man!")... but three years later, they sue Madonna for using the "Security Of The First World" beat in "Justify My Love"?
* ValuesDissonance: So... in "Caught, Can We Get A Witness?" they find nothing wrong with sampling (Flav: "Y'all can't copyright no beat, man!")... but three years later, they sue Madonna for using the "Security Of The First World" beat in "Justify My Love"?
