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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation Is August a righteous crusader fighting against the people who exploited his sister and continue to dishonour her memory? Or just a raging [[KnightTemplar fundamentalist]] against people with a perfectly legal business? On the same lines, Charlie. August holds him responsible for Christina's death as well as everything that happened to Mia. Mia however has fond memories of him, nobody forced Christina into her job and the exact circumstances of her death are vague, making Charlie's part in it rather ambiguous. At the end of the movie [[spoiler: we see him putting flowers on the graves of August, Mia and Christina]].

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Is August a righteous crusader fighting against the people who exploited his sister and continue to dishonour her memory? Or just a raging [[KnightTemplar fundamentalist]] against people with a perfectly legal business? On the same lines, Charlie. August holds him responsible for Christina's death as well as everything that happened to Mia. Mia however has fond memories of him, nobody forced Christina into her job and the exact circumstances of her death are vague, making Charlie's part in it rather ambiguous. At the end of the movie [[spoiler: we see him putting flowers on the graves of August, Mia and Christina]].



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* {{Anvilicious}}: Sorta comes with the territory to some extent, but then "don't be a jerk to the transgender community" stands out.
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* AnimationAgeGhetto: Mostly averted with critics and audiences praise the movie for combining [[TrueArtIsAngsty angsty]], [[{{Minimalism}} minimalist]] aesthetic of UsefulNotes/Dogme95 movies and styles can that only work in the medium of 2D animation. Though it's released under Zentropa's GRRR division where [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids it produces children's entertainment]].
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* WhatAnIdiot: Seriously, if only August had planted the bomb inside something else instead Mia's plushy rabbit, [[spoiler: Mia wouldn't have been caught in the explosion and died. Of course, August's obsession with vengeance may have clouded his common sense.]]

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* WhatAnIdiot: Seriously, if only August had planted the bomb inside something else instead Mia's plushy rabbit, [[spoiler: Mia wouldn't have been caught in the explosion and died. Of course, August's obsession with vengeance may have clouded his common sense.]]
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** Then again, there's people working at the porn industry. Some have indeed abused Mia and probably deserved what they got. But for the rest: are they just normal people desperate to stop a crazed madman (even if they know his motive) when the police refuse to help them (and sick and tired of being judged for their line of work), or are they a bunch of assholes [[NeverMyFault who refuse to take responsibility]] and want to stop someone from meddling in their affairs?

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** Then again, there's the people working at the porn industry. Some have indeed abused molested Mia and probably deserved [[PayEvilUntoEvil got what they got. deserved ]]. But for the rest: are they just normal people desperate to stop a crazed madman (even if they know his motive) when the police refuse to help them (and sick and tired of being judged for their line of work), or are they a bunch of assholes [[NeverMyFault who refuse to take responsibility]] and want to stop someone from meddling in their affairs?business?
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** Then again, there's people working at the porn industry. Some have indeed abused Mia and probably deserved what they got. But for the rest: are they just normal people desperate to stop a crazed madman (even if they know his motive) when the police refuse to help them (and sick and tired of being judged for their line of work), or are they a bunch of assholes [[NeverMyFault who refuse to take responsibility]] and want to stop someone from meddling in their affairs?
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* DesignatedHero: While August's goal is sympathetic, most of the things he does make it very difficult to root for him, such as beating up a man simply for going out with a prostitute, breaking a boy's arm, blowing up a porn industry which very likely had innocent workers that did nothing to deserve being sacrificed, and at the end, plants a bomb inside the mansion that charlie is supposedly hanging out at, killing many innocent lives in the process, [[spoiler:including Mia...]].

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* DesignatedHero: While August's goal is sympathetic, most of the things he does make it very difficult to root for him, such as beating up a man simply for going out with a prostitute, breaking a boy's arm, blowing up a porn industry which very likely had innocent workers that did nothing to deserve being sacrificed, and at the end, plants a bomb inside the mansion that charlie Charlie is supposedly hanging out at, killing many innocent lives in the process, [[spoiler:including Mia...]].



* WhatAnIdiot: Seriously, if only August had planted the bomb inside something else instead Mia's plushy rabbit, [[spoiler: Mia wouldn't have been caught in the explosion and died.]]

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* WhatAnIdiot: Seriously, if only August had planted the bomb inside something else instead Mia's plushy rabbit, [[spoiler: Mia wouldn't have been caught in the explosion and died. Of course, August's obsession with vengeance may have clouded his common sense.]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While most of the people he is up against are despicable people with no morals, August himself is a religious nutjob who has no qualms about sacrificing innocents and hurting others for things that [[DesignatedEvil he thinks are wrong]]. Because of this, not only is hard to root for August, but it's also just as hard to care about how the story gets resolved, and the way it does get resolved is [[DownerEnding not nice...]]


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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: While most of the people he is up against are despicable people with no morals, August himself is a religious nutjob who has no qualms about sacrificing innocents and hurting others for things that [[DesignatedEvil he thinks are wrong]]. Because of this, not only is hard to root for August, but it's also just as hard to care about how the story gets resolved, and the way it does get resolved is [[DownerEnding not nice...]]
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* AnimationAgeGhetto: Mostly averted with critics and audiences praise the movie for combining [[TrueArtIsAngsty angsty]], [[{{Minimalism}} minimalist]] aesthetic of UsefulNotes/Dogme95 movies and styles that only work in the medium of 2D animation. Though it's released under Zentropa's GRRR division where [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids it produces children's entertainment]].

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* AnimationAgeGhetto: Mostly averted with critics and audiences praise the movie for combining [[TrueArtIsAngsty angsty]], [[{{Minimalism}} minimalist]] aesthetic of UsefulNotes/Dogme95 movies and styles can that only work in the medium of 2D animation. Though it's released under Zentropa's GRRR division where [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids it produces children's entertainment]].
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* RetroactiveRecognition: While August's voice actor Thure Lindhardt is already a recognizable actor in his home, he later stars as a leading role in an America indie movie ''Keep the Lights On''.
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* AnimationAgeGhetto: Mostly averted with critics and audiences praise the movie for combining [[TrueArtIsAngsty angsty]], [[{{Minimalism}} minimalist]] aesthetic of UsefulNotes/Dogme95 movies and styles that only work in the medium of 2D animation. Though it's released under Zentropa's GRRR division where [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids it produces children's entertainment]].
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* DesignatedVillain: Charlie. His only crime is getting Christina involved in the porn industry, but other than that, he doesn't really do anything else making him worthy of being an antagonist. Ironically, August is much more of an antagonist compared to charlie (see DesignatedHero above).

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* DesignatedVillain: Charlie. His only crime is getting Christina involved in the porn industry, but other than that, he doesn't really do anything else making him worthy of being an antagonist. Ironically, August is much more of an antagonist compared to charlie Charlie (see DesignatedHero above).
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* DesignatedHero: While August's goal is sympathetic, he commits some very morally reprehensible things throughout story to the point where it becomes harder to root for him, such as beating up a person simply for going out with a prostitute, blowing up a porn industry which very likely had innocent workers that did nothing to deserve being sacrificed, and at the end, plants a bomb inside the mansion that charlie is supposedly hanging out at, killing many innocent lives in the process, [[spoiler:including Mia...]].

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* DesignatedHero: While August's goal is sympathetic, he commits some very morally reprehensible most of the things throughout story to the point where he does make it becomes harder very difficult to root for him, such as beating up a person man simply for going out with a prostitute, breaking a boy's arm, blowing up a porn industry which very likely had innocent workers that did nothing to deserve being sacrificed, and at the end, plants a bomb inside the mansion that charlie is supposedly hanging out at, killing many innocent lives in the process, [[spoiler:including Mia...]].
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While most of the people he is up against are despicable people with no morals, August himself is a religeous nutjob who has no qualms about sacrificing innocents and hurting others for things that [[DesignatedEvil he thinks are wrong]]. Because of this, not only is hard to root for August, but it's also just as hard to care about how the story gets resolved, and the way it does get resolved is [[DownerEnding not nice...]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While most of the people he is up against are despicable people with no morals, August himself is a religeous religious nutjob who has no qualms about sacrificing innocents and hurting others for things that [[DesignatedEvil he thinks are wrong]]. Because of this, not only is hard to root for August, but it's also just as hard to care about how the story gets resolved, and the way it does get resolved is [[DownerEnding not nice...]]
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While the people he is up against are despicable people with no morals, August himself is a religeous nutjob who has no qualms about sacrificing innocents and hurting others for things that [[DesignatedEvil he thinks are wrong]], making it very hard to care how the story is resolved.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While most of the people he is up against are despicable people with no morals, August himself is a religeous nutjob who has no qualms about sacrificing innocents and hurting others for things that [[DesignatedEvil he thinks are wrong]], making it very wrong]]. Because of this, not only is hard to root for August, but it's also just as hard to care about how the story gets resolved, and the way it does get resolved is resolved.[[DownerEnding not nice...]]
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While the people he is up against are despicable people with no morals, August himself is a religeous nutjob who has no qualms about sacrificing innocents and hurting others for things that [[DesignatedEvil he thinks are wrong]], making it very hard to care how the story is resolved.
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* DesignatedVillain: Charlie. His only crime is getting Christina involved in the porn industry, but other than that, he doesn't really do anything else making him worthy of being an antagonist. Ironically, August is much more of an antagonist compared to charlie (see DesignatedHero above).
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* DesignatedHero: While August's goal is sympathetic, he does very questionable and unethical deeds throughout story to the point where it becomes harder to root for him, such as beating up a person simply for going out with a prostitute, blowing up a porn industry which very likely contained innocents that did nothing to deserve being sacrificed, and at the end, plants a bomb inside the mansion that charlie is supposedly hanging out at, killing many innocent lives in the process.

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* DesignatedHero: While August's goal is sympathetic, he does commits some very questionable and unethical deeds morally reprehensible things throughout story to the point where it becomes harder to root for him, such as beating up a person simply for going out with a prostitute, blowing up a porn industry which very likely contained innocents had innocent workers that did nothing to deserve being sacrificed, and at the end, plants a bomb inside the mansion that charlie is supposedly hanging out at, killing many innocent lives in the process.process, [[spoiler:including Mia...]].
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Sure, August tries his best to keep Mia safe from the ugly side of the world and also does his best to be a good father figure to her. However, any sympathy for him is killed off when he not only sacrifices innocent lives on his quest for revenge, but indirectly causes [[spoiler:Mia's]] death.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Sure, August tries his best to keep Mia safe from the ugly side of the world and also does his best to be a good father figure to her. However, any sympathy for him is killed off when he not only sacrifices innocent lives on his quest for revenge, but indirectly causes [[spoiler:Mia's]] death.death as well, arguably making him almost worse than our main antagonist, Charlie.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Sure, August tries his best to keep Mia safe from the ugly side of the world and also does his best to be a good father figure to her. However, any sympathy for him is killed off when he not only sacrifices innocent lives on his quest for revenge, but indirectly causes [[spoiler:Mia's]] death.
* WhatAnIdiot: Seriously, if only August had planted the bomb inside something else instead Mia's plushy rabbit, [[spoiler: Mia wouldn't have been caught in the explosion and died.]]
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* DesignatedHero: While August's goal is sympathetic, he does very questionable and unethical deeds throughout story to the point where it becomes harder to root for him, such as beating up a person simply for going out with a prostitute, blowing up a porn industry which very likely contained innocents that did nothing to deserve being sacrificed, and the end, plants a bomb inside the mansion that charlie is supposedly hanging out at, killing many innocent lives in the process.

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* DesignatedHero: While August's goal is sympathetic, he does very questionable and unethical deeds throughout story to the point where it becomes harder to root for him, such as beating up a person simply for going out with a prostitute, blowing up a porn industry which very likely contained innocents that did nothing to deserve being sacrificed, and at the end, plants a bomb inside the mansion that charlie is supposedly hanging out at, killing many innocent lives in the process.
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* DesignatedHero: While August's goal is sympathetic, he does very questionable and unethical deeds throughout story to the point where it becomes harder to root for him, such as beating up a person simply for going out with a prostitute, blowing up a porn industry which very likely contained innocents that did nothing to deserve being sacrificed, and the end, plants a bomb inside the mansion that charlie is supposedly hanging out at, killing many innocent lives in the process.

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* AnvilsThatNeededToBeDropped Morgenthaler stated that he wanted the movie to criticize the way the sex industry objectifies women.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Sorta comes with the territory to some extent, but then [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped "don't be a jerk to the transgender community" stands out.]]

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* AnvilsThatNeededToBeDropped Morgenthaler stated that he wanted the movie to criticize the way the sex industry objectifies women.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Sorta comes with the territory to some extent, but then [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped "don't be a jerk to the transgender community" stands out.]]out.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Sorta comes with the territory to some extent, but then "don't be a jerk to the transgender community" stands out

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Sorta comes with the territory to some extent, but then [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped "don't be a jerk to the transgender community" stands outout.]]
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Sorta comes with the territory to some extent, but then [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped "don't be a jerk to the transgender community"]] is a lesson too many people still need to learn.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Sorta comes with the territory to some extent, but then [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped then "don't be a jerk to the transgender community"]] is a lesson too many people still need to learn.community" stands out
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Sorta comes with the territory to some extent, but then [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped "don't be a jerk to the transgender community"]] is a lesson too many people still need to learn.
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* AnvilsThatNeededToBeDropped Morgenthaler stated that he wanted the movie to criticize the way the sex industry objectifies women.

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* AnvilsThatNeededToBeDropped Morgenthaler stated that he wanted the movie to criticize the way the sex industry objectifies women.women.
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