History YMMV / PokemonStadium

29th Oct '17 8:46:22 AM LegendaryBraviary
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** Dusty, the Leader of the aforementioned Sunset Colosseum in Battle Revolution can be an absolute nightmare to fight. Firstly, you'll be battling him under the Select Battle rules, which means that you're forced to choose from 12 Pokémon (Six of which are his, and the other six are randomly generated based on your rank) to fight him. [[GameBreaker Hoping to sweep him with an overpowered team copied from one of your Gen IV games?]] Too bad! In theory, the Select Battle is supposed to test your knowledge, and the previous three Trainers can indeed be beaten with the Pokémon you're given, as they have several tools (i.e.: entry hazards, stalling moves, etc.) that can help you win. Against Dusty, however, you're at the mercy of [[SarcasmMode good ol']] [[RandomNumberGod R.N. Jesus]] himself. To start, if this is your first time fighting him, don't bother choosing the random Pokémon—None of them will stand a chance against Dusty's gang. And even if you choose from Dusty's Battle Pass, the battle from there will become a stats game: Which Pokémon will strike first? Which will do more damage? Which will survive a super effective attack? Since the battle will likely be a mirror match, you better know how the game handles Speed ties, because if you just happen to get [[StandardStatusEffects paralyzed]] by his [[LightningBruiser Vigoroth's]] Body Slam or his [[MightyGlacier Luxio's]] Spark, you might as well just throw the match right then and there. Not helping things is that the fact that Dusty's AI is [[ArtificialBrilliance significantly more merciless]] than your [[ArtificialStupidity last few opponents,]] as one mistake could kill your run, and force you to start all over again unless you've saved up some Continues by defeating the Trainers without letting a single one of your Pokémon faint. Good luck, you're gonna need it!
19th Oct '17 1:04:18 PM dmeagher13
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: With the current main series of handheld games now featuring full 3D battles that exceed the quality of these games' graphics, it might be difficult for someone only familiar with the modern games to see the appeal of the Stadium-type games.
30th Sep '17 2:21:19 PM KamonTheSkunk
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** The Litte Cup in round 2 is an absolute nightmare, especially when compared to round 1. Rex aside, who has a team that consists of Pokemon that have move combinations that are impossible to obtain, the 3rd and 6th trainers love to make sure that you can't attack them period. The 3rd trainer will constantly use Swagger to increase your attack and confuse you so you'll take more damage than normal if you attack yourself, which is almost guaranteed to happen, as luck favors the computer far more than it does the player. The 6th trainer takes this UpToEleven as all of her Pokemon know the move Attract to keep any Pokemon of the opposite sex from attacking, but that's just the start of the hell. Half of her team also knows Thunder Wave to keep you from attacking first and from attacking at all most of the time, but [[RuleOfThree that's not even the worst offender.]] Each of her Pokemon knows a move that have a chance of making your Pokemon flinch, almost ensuring that you can't do a thing against any member of her team. As another sick trick, her Poliwag and her Mareep, which she will more than likely use, both have items that will restore their hit points if they manage to get beat up. There's a reason that Stadium 2 is seen as the hardest Pokemon game to many people.

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** The Litte Little Cup in round 2 is an absolute nightmare, especially when compared to round 1. Rex aside, who has a team that consists of Pokemon that have move combinations that are impossible to obtain, the 3rd and 6th trainers love to make sure that you can't attack them period. The 3rd trainer will constantly use Swagger to increase your attack and confuse you so you'll take more damage than normal if you attack yourself, which is almost guaranteed to happen, as luck favors the computer far more than it does the player.player, while the opponent will attack you. The 6th trainer takes this UpToEleven as all of her Pokemon know the move Attract to keep any Pokemon of the opposite sex from attacking, but that's just the start of the hell. Half of her team also knows Thunder Wave to keep you from attacking first and from attacking at all most of the time, but [[RuleOfThree that's not even the worst offender.]] Each of her Pokemon knows a move that have a chance of making your Pokemon flinch, almost ensuring that you can't do a thing against any member of her team. As another sick trick, her Poliwag and her Mareep, which she will more than likely use, both have items that will restore their hit points if they manage to get beat up. There's a reason that Stadium 2 is seen as the hardest Pokemon game to many people.
19th Sep '17 10:10:30 AM KamonTheSkunk
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** The Litte Cup in round 2 is an absolute nightmare, especially when compared to round 1. Rex aside, who has a team that consists of Pokemon that have move combinations that are impossible to obtain, the 3rd and 6th trainers love to make sure that you can't attack them period. The 3rd trainer will constantly use Swagger to increase your attack and confuse you so you'll take more damage than normal if you attack yourself, which is almost guaranteed to happen, as luck favors the computer far more than it does the player. The 6th trainer takes this UpToEleven as all of her Pokemon know the move Attract to keep any Pokemon of the opposite sex from attacking, but that's just the start of the hell. Half of her team also knows Thunder Wave to keep you from attacking first and from attacking at all most of the time, but [[RuleOfThree that's not even the worst offender.]] Each of her Pokemon knows a move that have a chance of making your Pokemon flinch, almost ensuring that you can't do a thing against any member of her team. As another sick trick, both her Poliwag and her Mareep, which she will more than likely use, both have items that will restore their hitpoints if they manage to get beat up. There's a reason that Stadium 2 is seen as the hardest Pokemon game to many people.

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** The Litte Cup in round 2 is an absolute nightmare, especially when compared to round 1. Rex aside, who has a team that consists of Pokemon that have move combinations that are impossible to obtain, the 3rd and 6th trainers love to make sure that you can't attack them period. The 3rd trainer will constantly use Swagger to increase your attack and confuse you so you'll take more damage than normal if you attack yourself, which is almost guaranteed to happen, as luck favors the computer far more than it does the player. The 6th trainer takes this UpToEleven as all of her Pokemon know the move Attract to keep any Pokemon of the opposite sex from attacking, but that's just the start of the hell. Half of her team also knows Thunder Wave to keep you from attacking first and from attacking at all most of the time, but [[RuleOfThree that's not even the worst offender.]] Each of her Pokemon knows a move that have a chance of making your Pokemon flinch, almost ensuring that you can't do a thing against any member of her team. As another sick trick, both her Poliwag and her Mareep, which she will more than likely use, both have items that will restore their hitpoints hit points if they manage to get beat up. There's a reason that Stadium 2 is seen as the hardest Pokemon game to many people.
18th Sep '17 11:56:48 AM KamonTheSkunk
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** The Litte Cup in round 2 is an absolute nightmare, especially when compared to round 1. Rex aside, who has a team that consists of Pokemon that have move combinations that are impossible to obtain, the 3rd and 6th trainers love to make sure that you can't attack them period. The 3rd trainer will constantly use Swagger to increase your attack and confuse you so you'll take more damage than normal if you attack yourself, which is almost guaranteed to happen, as luck favors the computer far more than it does the player. The 6th trainer takes this UpToEleven as all of her Pokemon know the move Attract to keep any Pokemon of the opposite sex from attacking, but that's just the start of the hell. Half of her team also knows Thunder Wave to keep you from attacking first and from attacking at all most of the time, but[[RuleOfThree that's not even the worst offender.]] Each of her Pokemon knows a move that have a chance of making your Pokemon flinch, almost ensuring that you can't do a thing against any member of her team. As another sick trick, both her Poliwag and her Mareep, which she will more than likely use, both have items that will restore their hitpoints if they manage to get beat up. There's a reason that Stadium 2 is seen as the hardest Pokemon game to many people.

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** The Litte Cup in round 2 is an absolute nightmare, especially when compared to round 1. Rex aside, who has a team that consists of Pokemon that have move combinations that are impossible to obtain, the 3rd and 6th trainers love to make sure that you can't attack them period. The 3rd trainer will constantly use Swagger to increase your attack and confuse you so you'll take more damage than normal if you attack yourself, which is almost guaranteed to happen, as luck favors the computer far more than it does the player. The 6th trainer takes this UpToEleven as all of her Pokemon know the move Attract to keep any Pokemon of the opposite sex from attacking, but that's just the start of the hell. Half of her team also knows Thunder Wave to keep you from attacking first and from attacking at all most of the time, but[[RuleOfThree but [[RuleOfThree that's not even the worst offender.]] Each of her Pokemon knows a move that have a chance of making your Pokemon flinch, almost ensuring that you can't do a thing against any member of her team. As another sick trick, both her Poliwag and her Mareep, which she will more than likely use, both have items that will restore their hitpoints if they manage to get beat up. There's a reason that Stadium 2 is seen as the hardest Pokemon game to many people.
18th Sep '17 11:56:09 AM KamonTheSkunk
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* ThatOneSidequest: ''Pokémon Stadium 2''[='=]s Challenge Cup Ultra Ball, especially in Round 2. There are several issues with this particular cup compared to every cup in the game:
** The problem with this division and level in particular is that the random selections are completely imbalanced. For starters, there are NO fully evolved Fire-types, the only Fire-types you get are Charmeleon, Quilava, and ''Ponyta'', whereas the other starter mid-evos are available in Great Ball. Compared to stuff like Skarmory, Quagsire, Kadabra, Hitmonlee and Clefable, they are terrible selections.
** The second issue is the standard movesets: You usually have two attacking moves, one of the primary type, and if you are dual-typed, the secondary type, or a coverage move if you are not, or don't have moves. Then its a stat/status-related move, and a defensive move. Many enemies, with a few exceptions, use this basic setup. However, they can give really low-powered moves like Tackle or Bubble if you are unlucky, or high-powered moves with low accuracy. This cripples Pokémon choices like Shuckle, Sneasel, and Chansey, who can't use their STAB moves effectively.
** The other thing is that you can't use ANY recovery moves like Recover and Rest, so if you can't get a Pokémon with Safeguard or Substitute, you are more suspectible to status moves, and the majority of trainers in this cup use the most status moves.
** The most pressing issue are the Round 2 trainers, and to some extent, Round 1. Only two trainers are relatively harmless compared to six.

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* ThatOneSidequest: ThatOneSidequest:
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''Pokémon Stadium 2''[='=]s Challenge Cup Ultra Ball, especially in Round 2. There are several issues with this particular cup compared to every cup in the game:
** *** The problem with this division and level in particular is that the random selections are completely imbalanced. For starters, there are NO fully evolved Fire-types, the only Fire-types you get are Charmeleon, Quilava, and ''Ponyta'', whereas the other starter mid-evos are available in Great Ball. Compared to stuff like Skarmory, Quagsire, Kadabra, Hitmonlee and Clefable, they are terrible selections.
** *** The second issue is the standard movesets: You usually have two attacking moves, one of the primary type, and if you are dual-typed, the secondary type, or a coverage move if you are not, or don't have moves. Then its a stat/status-related move, and a defensive move. Many enemies, with a few exceptions, use this basic setup. However, they can give really low-powered moves like Tackle or Bubble if you are unlucky, or high-powered moves with low accuracy. This cripples Pokémon choices like Shuckle, Sneasel, and Chansey, who can't use their STAB moves effectively.
** *** The other thing is that you can't use ANY recovery moves like Recover and Rest, so if you can't get a Pokémon with Safeguard or Substitute, you are more suspectible to status moves, and the majority of trainers in this cup use the most status moves.
** *** The most pressing issue are the Round 2 trainers, and to some extent, Round 1. Only two trainers are relatively harmless compared to six.


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** The Litte Cup in round 2 is an absolute nightmare, especially when compared to round 1. Rex aside, who has a team that consists of Pokemon that have move combinations that are impossible to obtain, the 3rd and 6th trainers love to make sure that you can't attack them period. The 3rd trainer will constantly use Swagger to increase your attack and confuse you so you'll take more damage than normal if you attack yourself, which is almost guaranteed to happen, as luck favors the computer far more than it does the player. The 6th trainer takes this UpToEleven as all of her Pokemon know the move Attract to keep any Pokemon of the opposite sex from attacking, but that's just the start of the hell. Half of her team also knows Thunder Wave to keep you from attacking first and from attacking at all most of the time, but[[RuleOfThree that's not even the worst offender.]] Each of her Pokemon knows a move that have a chance of making your Pokemon flinch, almost ensuring that you can't do a thing against any member of her team. As another sick trick, both her Poliwag and her Mareep, which she will more than likely use, both have items that will restore their hitpoints if they manage to get beat up. There's a reason that Stadium 2 is seen as the hardest Pokemon game to many people.
16th Sep '17 7:27:35 AM KamonTheSkunk
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*** Even in ''Pokemon Stadium 2'', the Male Cooltrainer will use a Mew too, but in both rounds 1 & 2, he is hard as hell to defeat. If you use a Dragon type Pokemon, Mew will more than likely use Blizzard that will almost always strike, despite the 80% accuracy and OneHitKill it no matter what and even trying to counter it with a Wobbuffet is all but fruitless, as he'll just switch it out for his Tyranitar that'll use Crunch to take it out quickly. Along with whatever else he'll chose, which can range from a Starmie and a Umbreon, he's the vein of all trainers in the Prime Cup.
11th Sep '17 8:46:18 AM Pichu-kun
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* GameBreaker: ''Pokémon Stadium 1'' Substitute Mewtwo is what you get when Substitute has been upgraded to Block status (which didn't happen in the original handheld titles), OHKO moves, Explosion, sometimes Wrap moves, and stat reduction moves. It does reduce HP, but Mewtwo has Recover, making it near untouchable. Add in Amnesia (which raises its Special Attack and Special Defense) and Psychic (which no Pokémon is immune to, and even when resisted, 30% Special drops), and nothing in the game bar a lucky speed tie (Mewtwo or Jolteon), or a Thunder Wave Electrode can even inconvenience this monster. It is the single most broken moveset in ''Pokémon'' history.

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''Pokémon Stadium 1'' Substitute Mewtwo is what you get when Substitute has been upgraded to Block status (which didn't happen in the original handheld titles), OHKO moves, Explosion, sometimes Wrap moves, and stat reduction moves. It does reduce HP, but Mewtwo has Recover, making it near untouchable. Add in Amnesia (which raises its Special Attack and Special Defense) and Psychic (which no Pokémon is immune to, and even when resisted, 30% Special drops), and nothing in the game bar a lucky speed tie (Mewtwo or Jolteon), or a Thunder Wave Electrode can even inconvenience this monster. It is the single most broken moveset in ''Pokémon'' history.



* NarmCharm: The announcer is either the shining example of this, or he's TheScrappy.
** In ''Battle Revolution'', poisoning will cause him to say "___ is losing its health!" Mind that he says the last three words in a very dramatic way, as if he's about to break into tears.

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The announcer is either the shining example of this, or he's TheScrappy.
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TheScrappy. In ''Battle Revolution'', poisoning will cause him to say "___ is losing its health!" Mind that he says the last three words in a very dramatic way, as if he's about to break into tears.



* NightmareFuel: The one-hit KO animations, especially when they connect.

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The one-hit KO animations, especially when they connect.



* SidetrackedByTheGoldSaucer: Minigames in the ''Stadium'' games. Pity ''Revolution'' didn't have any...

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* SidetrackedByTheGoldSaucer: Minigames in the ''Stadium'' games. Pity ''Revolution'' ''Battle Revolution'' didn't have any...
15th Aug '17 11:13:01 AM PDL
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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApPJACXCdoM Jynx's fainting animation]], in which it cries, suddenly freezes ''and its entire body disappears''; that is except its hair, which simply drops on the ground. ''Brr''.

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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApPJACXCdoM Jynx's fainting animation]], in which it cries, suddenly freezes ''and its entire body disappears''; that is except its hair, which simply drops on the ground. ''Brr''.All of this gives the impression that it ''[[ImMelting melted]]'' in the same manner as the [[Literature/TheWizardOfOZ Wicked Witch of the West]].
15th Aug '17 11:01:14 AM N8han11
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** At least in Master Ball Round 2, you could fish for Snorlax, which no matter what moveset it has, it is a reliable tank that can use every move to its advantage, and can power through every trainer except the Double Teaming status-spamming Scientist and the Gentleman and his almost omniscient AI compared to every enemy in the game, who are the most dangerous trainers in the Master Ball division. You get no such Pokémon in the Ultra Ball division, and there are SIX dangerous trainers.

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** At least in Master Ball Round 2, you could fish for Snorlax, which no matter what moveset it has, it is a reliable tank that can use every move to its advantage, and can power through every trainer except the Double Teaming status-spamming Scientist and the Gentleman and his almost omniscient AI compared to every enemy in the game, who are the most dangerous trainers in the Master Ball division. You get no such Pokémon in the Ultra Ball division, and there are SIX dangerous trainers.----
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