History YMMV / PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened

7th Mar '17 8:05:06 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* LostAesop: The movie can't seem to decide on what it wants to say; while much of the story seems to focus on Genesect and Mewtwo trying to find their place in the world, it also seems to repeat ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'''s message of "all life is equal", and out of nowhere near the end, it seems to be "Everyone is your friend"; something that the final ten minutes gets pretty {{anvilicious}} about. [[BrokenAesop Also, does that]] ''[[BrokenAesop include]]'' [[BrokenAesop those who want to exploit others for their own benefit (as happened to the both of them by their creators)?]]



* ShipTease: The scene with the feminine Mewtwo and the masculine Red Genesect [[spoiler:above the Earth, and the latter later saving the former as they fall]], has some romantic undertones.
7th Mar '17 8:01:18 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* CluelessAesop: At the end, Mewtwo and the Red Genesect learn that "on this planet, we are all friends", seemingly forgetting about their creators (the former's electrocuted it for no clear reason, and the latter's was [[AnimalWrongsGroup Team Plasma]]), both of whom were most certainly ''not'' anyone's friends, least of all their creations'. And that's ''ignoring'' the personality differences among both humans and Pokémon that ensure not all of them are friends to each other...
7th Mar '17 7:57:57 PM SpinAttaxx
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* CluelessAesop: At the end, Mewtwo and the Red Genesect learn that "on this planet, we are all friends", seemingly forgetting about their creators (the former's electrocuted it for no clear reason, and the latter's was [[AnimalWrongsGroup Team Plasma]]), both of whom were most certainly ''not'' anyone's friends, least of all their creations'. And that's ''ignoring'' the personality differences among both humans and Pokémon that ensure not all of them are friends to each other...
7th Mar '17 7:30:14 PM SpinAttaxx
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* LostAesop: The movie can't seem to decide on what it wants to say; while much of the story seems to focus on Genesect and Mewtwo trying to find their place in the world, it also seems to repeat ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'''s message of "all life is equal", and out of nowhere near the end, it seems to be "Everyone is your friend"; something that the final ten minutes gets pretty {{anvilicious}} about. [[BrokenAesop Also, does that ''include'' those who want to exploit others for their own benefit (as happened to the both of them by their creators)?]]

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* LostAesop: The movie can't seem to decide on what it wants to say; while much of the story seems to focus on Genesect and Mewtwo trying to find their place in the world, it also seems to repeat ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'''s message of "all life is equal", and out of nowhere near the end, it seems to be "Everyone is your friend"; something that the final ten minutes gets pretty {{anvilicious}} about. [[BrokenAesop Also, does that ''include'' that]] ''[[BrokenAesop include]]'' [[BrokenAesop those who want to exploit others for their own benefit (as happened to the both of them by their creators)?]]
7th Mar '17 7:28:32 PM SpinAttaxx
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* CluelessAesop: The moral (or at least the lesson Mewtwo and Genesect learn by the end) is "Everyone on Earth is your friend". So, does that ''include'' those who want to exploit others for their own benefit (as happened to the both of them by their creators)?


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* FightSceneFailure: The "battle" against Mewtwo and the Red Genesect is little more than a long chase sequence with pointless ultimatums from the former. The battle between the Genesect Army and the other Pokémon also largely consists of each side standing still and shooting beams at each other until it ends.


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* LostAesop: The movie can't seem to decide on what it wants to say; while much of the story seems to focus on Genesect and Mewtwo trying to find their place in the world, it also seems to repeat ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'''s message of "all life is equal", and out of nowhere near the end, it seems to be "Everyone is your friend"; something that the final ten minutes gets pretty {{anvilicious}} about. [[BrokenAesop Also, does that ''include'' those who want to exploit others for their own benefit (as happened to the both of them by their creators)?]]
7th Mar '17 6:57:42 PM SpinAttaxx
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* MisaimedMarketing: Both in and out of Japan, the movie was marketed as if the original Mewtwo were coming back; Japan reaired everything the original appeared in, and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn5BvytJooA the English trailer]] used {{missing trailer scene}}s to make it seem like the original was in it (conspicuously, Mewtwo is completely silent in said trailer). And then, barring a throwaway line, the actual movie acts as if the original Mewtwo and everything it appeared in never happened.
* NeverLiveItDown: The controversy generated by this movie's Mewtwo damaged the reputations of the anime, its writers, and especially director Yuyama with many fans, although Mewtwo's reputation as a whole was eventually repaired by the re-introduction of Mewtwo's old characterization to the franchise.

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* MisaimedMarketing: Both in and out of Japan, the movie was marketed as if the original Mewtwo were coming back; Japan reaired everything the original appeared in, and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn5BvytJooA the English trailer]] used {{missing trailer scene}}s to make it seem like the original was in it (conspicuously, Mewtwo is completely silent in said trailer). And then, barring a throwaway line, the actual movie acts as if the original Mewtwo and everything it appeared in never happened.
happened. This even extends to a contemporary event Mewtwo based off of this one, which knows [[BlowYouAway Hurricane]]... a move that would make much more sense on a Mewtwo based off of the storm-creating original.
* NeverLiveItDown: The controversy generated by this movie's Mewtwo damaged the reputations of the anime, its writers, and especially director Kunihiko Yuyama (the one who thought of -- and decided on -- the idea to start with) with many fans, although Mewtwo's reputation as a whole was eventually repaired by the re-introduction of Mewtwo's old characterization to the franchise.
1st Mar '17 5:49:59 AM SpinAttaxx
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* MisaimedMarketing: Both in and out of Japan, the movie was marketed as if the original Mewtwo were coming back; Japan reaired everything the original appeared in, and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn5BvytJooA the English trailer]] used {{missing trailer scene}}s to make it seem like the original was in it (conspicuously, Mewtwo is completely silent in said trailer). And then, barring a throwaway line, the actual movie acts as if the original Mewtwo and everything it appeared in never happened.



* TheScrappy: While some hate towards this Mewtwo just comes from her jarring feminine persona compared to the original Mewtwo, [[ReplacementScrappy not being the original Mewtwo]] and being LighterAndSofter than him, there are also many complaints about her being a lazy copy of the original Mewtwo, with no connection to him and no justification for her existence and radically different voice and personality. This Mewtwo's English voice actress, Miriam Pultro (who happens to be OneOfUs) [[https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=676840695674582&id=109462092412448 even anticipated said backlash against her role]].

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* TheScrappy: While some hate towards this Mewtwo just comes from her jarring feminine persona compared to the original Mewtwo, [[ReplacementScrappy not being the original Mewtwo]] and being LighterAndSofter than him, there are also many complaints about her being a lazy copy of the original Mewtwo, with no connection to him and no justification for her existence and radically different voice and personality. She also completely destroys what motivated the original Mewtwo (he was [[SingleSpecimenSpecies a unique specimen]] who wanted a place in a world that had none for him). This Mewtwo's English voice actress, Miriam Pultro (who happens to be OneOfUs) [[https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=676840695674582&id=109462092412448 even anticipated said backlash against her role]].



* BaseBreakingCharacter: Aside from the one with a folder devoted to it, there's the Douse Drive Genesect, who is either considered one of the cuter and more interesting characters in the movie, or [[{{Narm}} a subject of mockery]]. [[FountainOfMemes Said mockery is pretty common on message boards]].[[labelnote:*]]Ironic, given how its Drive is/was [[NotCompletelyUseless the only one worth using]] in the games due to Genesect's limited options in countering Fire-types.[[/labelnote]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Aside from the one with a folder devoted to it, there's the Douse Drive Genesect, who is either considered one of the cuter and more interesting characters in the movie, or [[{{Narm}} a subject of mockery]].mockery]] for how they tried ''way'' too hard to make the audience sympathise with it (such as giving it an ill-fitting voice and having it repeat "I want to go home" over and over). [[FountainOfMemes Said mockery is pretty common on message boards]].[[labelnote:*]]Ironic, given how its Drive is/was [[NotCompletelyUseless the only one worth using]] in the games due to Genesect's limited options in countering Fire-types.[[/labelnote]]



* CluelessAesop: The moral (or at least the lesson Mewtwo and Genesect learn by the end) is "Everyone on Earth is your friend". So, does that ''include'' those who want to exploit others for their own benefit (as happened to the both of them by their creators)?



* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The movie's plot is a rehash of ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'', only [[LighterAndSofter without any of the drama and darkness that made it so popular]]. Genesect has the same motivation as the original Mewtwo (but little of the threat, menace and charm), it shares a moral about the value of life (only far more cheesier), and it has a character that undergoes a DisneyDeath after [[TakingTheBullet diving in between a powerful attack]] (but it has no meaningful impact on the story unlike when Ash did it).



* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: The Douse Drive Genesect seemingly dies after TakingTheBullet. Of course, no-one dies/stays dead in ''Pokémon'' movies if their names aren't [[Anime/PokemonHeroes Latios]] or [[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew Lucario]], so obviously it doesn't stick. Then they try to fool the audience with ''another'' DisneyDeath from the same character, with the same result.



* VideoGameMoviesSuck: ''Genesect'' is one of, if not the most unpopular of all the ''Pokémon'' movies. While most regard the movies' plots (this included) as being generic and harmless at best and missing potential]] at worst, this one went an extra step in turning off fans of the first movie (which, at least in its original Japanese format, is often considered an aversion with its different Mewtwo, which helped earn it considerably more backlash than the movies usually get.

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* VideoGameMoviesSuck: ''Genesect'' is one of, if not the most unpopular of all the ''Pokémon'' movies. While most regard few will say any of the movies' plots (this included) as being generic and harmless at best and missing potential]] at worst, ''Pokémon'' movies are genuinely good, this one went an extra step in turning off fans of the first movie (which, at least in its original Japanese format, is often considered an aversion aversion) with its different Mewtwo, which helped earn it considerably more backlash than the movies usually get.
11th Feb '17 6:46:45 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* VideoGameMoviesSuck: ''Genesect'' is one of, if not the most unpopular of all the ''Pokémon'' movies. While most regard the movies' plots (this included) as being generic and harmless at best and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter missing]] [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot potential]] at worst, this one went an extra step in turning off fans of the first movie (which, at least in its original Japanese format, is often considered an aversion or at least a {{guilty pleasure|s}}) with its different Mewtwo, which helped earn it considerably more backlash than the movies usually get.

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* VideoGameMoviesSuck: ''Genesect'' is one of, if not the most unpopular of all the ''Pokémon'' movies. While most regard the movies' plots (this included) as being generic and harmless at best and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter missing]] [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot missing potential]] at worst, this one went an extra step in turning off fans of the first movie (which, at least in its original Japanese format, is often considered an aversion or at least a {{guilty pleasure|s}}) with its different Mewtwo, which helped earn it considerably more backlash than the movies usually get.
9th Feb '17 5:27:45 PM SpinAttaxx
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Genesect is a PrehistoricMonster revived and turned into a {{cyborg}} by [[AnimalWrongsGroup Team Plasma]] in an effort to create the UltimateLifeForm. Sounds like an awesome concept, right? Except the film makes the decision to downplay their origins (beyond Mewtwo saying, "humans made both of us" about two times in the film), and have five Genesect for each Drive instead of one, and as such their personalities are rather lacking in depth. The Red Genesect is angry and violent all the time for no real reason, the Douse Drive Genesect does little but cry about home, [[FlatCharacter and the other three have zero character at all]]. Furthermore, the apex predator-cum-strongest Pokémon ever aspect is all but neglected, as the Army only cares about making a home as if they were never altered to begin with, rather than going down a similar, [[JupingOffTheSlpperySlope more sinister]], path to the original Mewtwo like a few fans had hoped.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Genesect is a PrehistoricMonster revived and turned into a {{cyborg}} by [[AnimalWrongsGroup Team Plasma]] in an effort to create the UltimateLifeForm. Sounds like an awesome concept, right? Except the film makes the decision to downplay their origins (beyond Mewtwo saying, "humans made both of us" about two times in the film), and have five Genesect for each Drive instead of one, and as such their personalities are rather lacking in depth. The Red Genesect is angry and violent all the time for no real reason, the Douse Drive Genesect does little but cry about home, [[FlatCharacter and the other three have zero character at all]]. Furthermore, the apex predator-cum-strongest Pokémon ever aspect is all but neglected, as the Army only cares about making a home as if they were never altered to begin with, rather than going down a similar, [[JupingOffTheSlpperySlope [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope more sinister]], path to the original Mewtwo like a few fans had hoped.
9th Feb '17 5:27:12 PM SpinAttaxx
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Genesect is a PrehistoricMonster revived and turned into a {{cyborg}} by [[AnimalWrongsGroup Team Plasma]] in an effort to create the UltimateLifeForm. Sounds like an awesome concept, right? Except the film makes the decision to downplay their origins (beyond Mewtwo saying, "humans made both of us" about two times in the film), and have five Genesect instead of one (seemingly to match the number of Drives), and as such their personalities are rather lacking in depth. The Red Genesect is angry and violent all the time for no real reason, the Douse Drive Genesect does little but cry about home, [[FlatCharacter and the other three have zero character at all]].

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Genesect is a PrehistoricMonster revived and turned into a {{cyborg}} by [[AnimalWrongsGroup Team Plasma]] in an effort to create the UltimateLifeForm. Sounds like an awesome concept, right? Except the film makes the decision to downplay their origins (beyond Mewtwo saying, "humans made both of us" about two times in the film), and have five Genesect for each Drive instead of one (seemingly to match the number of Drives), one, and as such their personalities are rather lacking in depth. The Red Genesect is angry and violent all the time for no real reason, the Douse Drive Genesect does little but cry about home, [[FlatCharacter and the other three have zero character at all]]. Furthermore, the apex predator-cum-strongest Pokémon ever aspect is all but neglected, as the Army only cares about making a home as if they were never altered to begin with, rather than going down a similar, [[JupingOffTheSlpperySlope more sinister]], path to the original Mewtwo like a few fans had hoped.



** While not ''quite'' as bad as Mewtwo, Genesect's depiction as a species in this movie also gets some flak. A few fans wanted to see Genesect as a SingleSpecimenSpecies (as it is in the games) and as a true villain due to its connection to [[AnimalWrongsGroup Team Plasma]], possibly serving as (the old) Mewtwo's new ArchEnemy.

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** While not ''quite'' as bad as Mewtwo, Genesect's depiction as a species in this movie also gets some flak. A few fans wanted to see Genesect as a SingleSpecimenSpecies (as it is in the games) and as a true an unambiguously evil villain (possibly serving as (the old) Mewtwo's new ArchEnemy), due to its connection to [[AnimalWrongsGroup Team Plasma]], possibly serving its similar origin to the original Mewtwo, and that the Bug/Steel-type Pokémon seems almost designed as (the old) Mewtwo's new ArchEnemy.a natural counter to Mewtwo.



* WhatAnIdiot: Mewtwo's creators. The brain trust capable of finding Mew DNA and using it to create their own identical Mewtwo, [[ContrivedCoincidence with seemingly no idea one already exists]]... also decides to [[BullyingADragon electrocute it for no clear reason]]. And somehow, they didn't expect its incredible psychic power (that they would've known about!) to be used against them. That they somehow managed to survive afterwards (as briefly mentioned in the prologue special) is the real miracle here.

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Mewtwo's creators. The brain trust capable of finding Mew DNA and using it to create their own identical Mewtwo, [[ContrivedCoincidence with seemingly no idea one already exists]]... also decides to [[BullyingADragon electrocute it for no clear reason]]. And somehow, they didn't expect its incredible psychic power (that they would've known about!) to be used against them. That they somehow managed to survive afterwards (as briefly mentioned in the prologue special) is the real miracle here.here.
** Team Plasma's just as guilty; while it's unclear if the Red Genesect's mind control over the other Genesect is a natural ability of it or a result of Team Plasma's enhancements, one has to wonder what made them so sure this ability wouldn't backfire on them. If the ability is a Plasma-made addition, then they're even bigger idiots for putting it into their superweapon while also neglecting to use a similar system to control the Red Genesect itself!
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