History YMMV / PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened

4th Aug '16 7:44:03 AM Darthrai
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** The movie's setting strangely echoes how Mewtwo itself was handled in it; it takes place in New Tork City, a New York City FantasyCounterpartCulture, despite the ''Pokémon'' franchise already having one in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Castelia City'' (in the same region even!). Even more so in that this movie doesn't mention Castelia City at all, just like with the original Mewtwo.

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** The movie's setting strangely echoes how Mewtwo itself was handled in it; it takes place in New Tork City, a New York City FantasyCounterpartCulture, despite the ''Pokémon'' franchise already having one in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Castelia City'' City]] (in the same region even!). Even more so in that this movie doesn't mention Castelia City at all, just like with the original Mewtwo.
4th Aug '16 7:43:39 AM Darthrai
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** The movie's setting strangely echoes how Mewtwo itself was handled in it; it takes place in New Tork City, a New York City FantasyCounterpartCulture, despite the ''Pokémon'' franchise already having one in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Castelia City'' (in the same region even!). Even more so in that this movie doesn't mention Castelia City at all, just like with the original Mewtwo.
4th Aug '16 7:40:25 AM Darthrai
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* {{Sequelitis}}: Mewtwo controversy aside, the movie isn't as well-regarded as its immediate predecessor, ''Anime/PokemonKyuremVsTheSwordOfJustice'', and is by no means one of the series' standout "surprisingly good" movies like ''Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew''.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: Mewtwo controversy aside, the This movie isn't as well-regarded as its immediate predecessor, ''Anime/PokemonKyuremVsTheSwordOfJustice'', and is by no means one of the series' standout "surprisingly good" most unpopular Pokémon movies, and its handling of a fan-favorite former SingleSpecimenSpecies is seen as a huge step back for the anime. On top of that, while the characters, story and plot aren't necessarily better or worse than most of the other movies like ''Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew''.(which are generally SoOkayItsAverage), it's generally agreed that they aren't good enough to redeem the movie.
4th Aug '16 7:35:47 AM Darthrai
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* SoOkayItsAverage: It's not the worst Pokémon movie by any stretch (except [[SeriousBusiness if you]] ''[[SeriousBusiness really]]'' [[SeriousBusiness despise this Mewtwo]]), but it's generally seen as not quite living up to the fans' expectations or [[Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie the original movie's]] reputation.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: It's On its own merits, it's not the worst Pokémon movie by any stretch (except [[SeriousBusiness if you]] ''[[SeriousBusiness really]]'' [[SeriousBusiness despise this movie's Mewtwo]]), but it's generally seen as not quite living up to the fans' expectations or [[Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie the original movie's]] reputation.reputation and is one of the most unpopular Pokémon movies in the larger scheme of things.
3rd Aug '16 6:02:58 PM SpinAttaxx
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* NeverLiveItDown: The controversy generated by this movie's Mewtwo damaged the anime's and its writers' reputations with many fans, although Mewtwo's reputation as a whole was eventually repaired by the re-introduction of Mewtwo's old characterization to the franchise.

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* NeverLiveItDown: The controversy generated by this movie's Mewtwo damaged the anime's and its writers' reputations of the anime, its writers, and especially director Yuyama with many fans, although Mewtwo's reputation as a whole was eventually repaired by the re-introduction of Mewtwo's old characterization to the franchise.


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* ScapegoatCreator: People often blame screenwriter Hideki Sonoda for the existence of the second Mewtwo (leading to him locking his Twitter account for a time after the movie's release). In reality, director Kunihiko Yuyama confirmed the decision was his on an episode of ''[[Series/PokemonSunday Pokémon Smash]]''.
28th Jul '16 9:29:08 AM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Yeah, this Mewtwo practically splits fans into armies. You have those who don't mind or even ''prefer'' the second Mewtwo, those who utterly ''despise'' it and perceive it as an inferior replacement for the original, those who have no problem with Mewtwo itself but take issue with the manner in which its backstory was handled/presented... put simply, there is no common ground fans share regarding it.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Yeah, this Mewtwo practically splits fans into armies. You have those who don't mind or even ''prefer'' the second Mewtwo, those who utterly ''despise'' it and perceive it as an inferior replacement for the original, those who have no problem with Mewtwo itself but take issue with the manner in which its backstory was handled/presented... put simply, there is no common ground fans share regarding it.



* BaseBreaker: Aside from the one with a folder devoted to it, there's the Douse Drive Genesect, who is either considered one of the cuter and more interesting characters in the movie, or [[{{Narm}} a subject of mockery]]. [[FountainOfMemes Said mockery is pretty common on message boards]].[[labelnote:*]]Ironic, given how its Drive is/was [[NotCompletelyUseless the only one worth using]] in the games due to Genesect's limited options in countering Fire-types.[[/labelnote]]

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Aside from the one with a folder devoted to it, there's the Douse Drive Genesect, who is either considered one of the cuter and more interesting characters in the movie, or [[{{Narm}} a subject of mockery]]. [[FountainOfMemes Said mockery is pretty common on message boards]].[[labelnote:*]]Ironic, given how its Drive is/was [[NotCompletelyUseless the only one worth using]] in the games due to Genesect's limited options in countering Fire-types.[[/labelnote]]
10th Jul '16 11:05:50 AM Darthrai
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** The idea of Mewtwo depicted with a feminine personality and causing a fandom uproar is strikingly similar to later, higher-profile Western cases of tampering with the gender of established characters, such as with the all-female ''Film/Ghostbusters2016'' reboot, which (like this movie) copies the setup of [[Film/Ghostbusters1984 the original]] but doesn't have the original Ghostbusters appear at all.[[note]]However, their actors appear in cameo roles.[[/note]]

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** The idea of Mewtwo depicted with a feminine personality and causing a fandom uproar is strikingly similar to later, higher-profile Western cases of tampering with the gender of established characters, such as with the all-female ''Film/Ghostbusters2016'' reboot, which (like this movie) copies the setup of [[Film/Ghostbusters1984 the original]] but doesn't have feature or acknowledge the original Ghostbusters appear team at all.[[note]]However, their actors appear in cameo roles.[[/note]]
10th Jul '16 11:05:26 AM Darthrai
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: The anime had already used multiple, conflicting depictions of Legendary Pokémon before this movie; for example, a mother and child Lugia appear in the anime series, a stark contrast to the mythical talking beast in ''Anime/Pokemon2000'', while the Mew in ''Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew'' is separate from the one in ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie''. However, ''Genesect'' was the first such case to raise a ruckus among the fandom, mainly because of how fans were misled into thinking [[TheBusCameBack the Mewtwo they knew and loved was coming back]][[labelnote:*]]which, ironically, later happened [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros in a]] [[VideoGame/PokkenTournament spiritual sense]][[/labelnote]] due to Mewtwo (previously) being a one-of-a-kind artificial Pokémon (unlike the naturally born Mew, Lugia ''et al''), and how the new Mewtwo rehashed the original's backstory but ended up with very few of the traits that made the original so popular.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: The anime had already used multiple, conflicting depictions of Legendary Pokémon before this movie; for example, a mother and child Lugia appear in the anime series, a stark contrast to the mythical talking beast in ''Anime/Pokemon2000'', while the Mew in ''Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew'' is separate from the one in ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie''. However, ''Genesect'' ''Genesect and the Legend Awakened'' was the first such case to raise a ruckus among the fandom, mainly because of how fans were misled into thinking [[TheBusCameBack the Mewtwo they knew and loved was coming back]][[labelnote:*]]which, ironically, later happened [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros in a]] [[VideoGame/PokkenTournament spiritual sense]][[/labelnote]] due to Mewtwo (previously) being a one-of-a-kind artificial Pokémon (unlike the naturally born Mew, Lugia ''et al''), and how the new Mewtwo rehashed the original's backstory but ended up with very few of the traits that made the original so popular.



** The idea of Mewtwo depicted with a feminine personality and causing a fandom uproar is strikingly similar to later, higher-profile Western cases of tampering with the gender of established characters, such as with the all-female ''Film/Ghostbusters2016'' reboot.

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** The idea of Mewtwo depicted with a feminine personality and causing a fandom uproar is strikingly similar to later, higher-profile Western cases of tampering with the gender of established characters, such as with the all-female ''Film/Ghostbusters2016'' reboot. reboot, which (like this movie) copies the setup of [[Film/Ghostbusters1984 the original]] but doesn't have the original Ghostbusters appear at all.[[note]]However, their actors appear in cameo roles.[[/note]]
7th Jul '16 5:24:56 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Invoked; [[http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/movies/bw_genosect_mewtwo/extreme_speed_genosect_awakening_mewtwo_director_yuyama_comment.html the director wanting to make a new image for Mewtwo is his rationale behind the use of a different one from the pre-existing character]]. As one can see below, his "[[LighterAndSofter new image]]" [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks wasn't exactly popular]].

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Invoked; [[http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/movies/bw_genosect_mewtwo/extreme_speed_genosect_awakening_mewtwo_director_yuyama_comment.html the director wanting to make a new image for Mewtwo is his rationale behind the use of a different one from the pre-existing character]]. As one can see below, his "[[LighterAndSofter new image]]" [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks [[ReplacementScrappy wasn't exactly popular]].



* TheyJustDidntCare: Mewtwo gets complaints of this type, mostly about how its existence is [[PlotHole illogical]][[labelnote:*]]Given [[SoleSurvivor the established difficulties of]] [[NoPlansNoPrototypeNoBackup the original Mewtwo's origin]] and how underdeveloped this one's is by comparison, resulting in several {{Contrived Coincidence}}s when [[FridgeLogic one thinks about it]][[/labelnote]], its backstory and CharacterArc is simply [[RecycledScript a copy of the old Mewtwo's]] rather than something unique and interesting, how no explanation was ever given (in-universe or in RealLife) for why it was used over the old Mewtwo[[labelnote:*]]aside from the director "thinking it would be better" (quoted below), but note that he has yet to say ''why'' he thought it would be better[[/labelnote]] and has nothing to do with it, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking how its Mega Evolution is just like a forme change rather than being closer to the games]].[[note]]''Anime/PokemonOrigins'' and later anime episodes ''would'' give us a more accurate version of Mega Evolution.[[/note]]
-->'''Kunihiko Yuyama:''' Yes, I thought it would be better to use a new Mewtwo.
26th Jun '16 12:40:06 PM Darthrai
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Invoked; [[http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/movies/bw_genosect_mewtwo/extreme_speed_genosect_awakening_mewtwo_director_yuyama_comment.html the director wanting to make a new image for Mewtwo is his rationale behind the use of a different one from the pre-existing character]]. As one can see below, his "[[LighterAndSofter new image]]" [[[[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks wasn't exactly popular]].

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Invoked; [[http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/movies/bw_genosect_mewtwo/extreme_speed_genosect_awakening_mewtwo_director_yuyama_comment.html the director wanting to make a new image for Mewtwo is his rationale behind the use of a different one from the pre-existing character]]. As one can see below, his "[[LighterAndSofter new image]]" [[[[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks wasn't exactly popular]].
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