History YMMV / PokemonDiamondAndPearl

12th Sep '16 11:05:15 PM KOman
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* CriticalDissonance: They are the highest-selling Pokemon [=DS=] games and have received glowing reviews from critics, yet they are among the most controversial games among the fandom (though Platinum specifically tends to get better reception).

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* CriticalDissonance: They are the highest-selling Pokemon [=DS=] games and have received glowing reviews from critics, yet they are among the most controversial games among for the fandom (though Platinum specifically tends to get better reception).
12th Sep '16 11:00:40 PM KOman
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* CriticalDissonance: The games got glowing reviews, though the fanbase is very divided on various aspects.

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* CriticalDissonance: The They are the highest-selling Pokemon [=DS=] games got and have received glowing reviews, though reviews from critics, yet they are among the fanbase is very divided on various aspects.most controversial games among the fandom (though Platinum specifically tends to get better reception).
9th Sep '16 1:45:46 PM Darthrai
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** Lucario was largely ignored after its generational debut and was believed to be outdated. It later saw a resurgence in popularity after returning as one of the fan-favorite older Pokémon in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'', after ''PokemonXandY'' gave it a [[SuperMode Mega Evolution]][[labelnote:*]]Which is also considered a massive GameBreaker in Singles battles.[[/labelnote]], and after being announced for the fourth ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', defying many people's expectations. In a 2014 [[http://www.dorkly.com/toplist/56974/the-greatest-pokemon-of-all-time-vote-now Dorkly popularity poll]], Lucario got 12th place despite it not being 2008 anymore, and having ranked much lower on a similar 2011 IGN poll.

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** Lucario was largely ignored after its generational debut and was believed to be outdated. It later saw a resurgence in popularity after returning as one of the fan-favorite older Pokémon in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'', after ''PokemonXandY'' ''PokemonXAndY'' gave it a [[SuperMode Mega Evolution]][[labelnote:*]]Which is also considered a massive GameBreaker in Singles battles.[[/labelnote]], and after being announced for the fourth ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', defying many people's expectations. In a 2014 [[http://www.dorkly.com/toplist/56974/the-greatest-pokemon-of-all-time-vote-now Dorkly popularity poll]], Lucario got 12th place despite it not being 2008 anymore, and having ranked much lower on a similar 2011 IGN poll.
9th Sep '16 1:44:46 PM Darthrai
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** Lucario was largely ignored after its generational debut and was believed to be outdated. The release of ''PokemonXandY'' saw a resurgence in popularity after getting a [[SuperMode Mega Evolution]][[labelnote:*]]Which is also considered a massive GameBreaker in Singles battles.[[/labelnote]] and being announced for the fourth ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', defying many people's expectations. In a 2014 [[http://www.dorkly.com/toplist/56974/the-greatest-pokemon-of-all-time-vote-now Dorkly popularity poll]], Lucario got 12th place despite it not being 2008 anymore, and having ranked much lower on a similar 2011 IGN poll.

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** Lucario was largely ignored after its generational debut and was believed to be outdated. The release It later saw a resurgence in popularity after returning as one of the fan-favorite older Pokémon in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'', after ''PokemonXandY'' saw a resurgence in popularity after getting gave it a [[SuperMode Mega Evolution]][[labelnote:*]]Which is also considered a massive GameBreaker in Singles battles.[[/labelnote]] [[/labelnote]], and after being announced for the fourth ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', defying many people's expectations. In a 2014 [[http://www.dorkly.com/toplist/56974/the-greatest-pokemon-of-all-time-vote-now Dorkly popularity poll]], Lucario got 12th place despite it not being 2008 anymore, and having ranked much lower on a similar 2011 IGN poll.
28th Aug '16 8:56:48 AM MayIncon
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* FandomRivalry: With the [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Hoenn]] fanbase. This may be mainly due to both regions obviously contrasting each other geography-wise. There's also countless debates and rivalries on whatever featured on their preferred region is better; such as the protagonists, trumpets or jazz, Secret Bases or the Underground, Steven or Cynthia, Gardevoir or Lopunny, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap ORAS versions]] of Courtney and Shelly to Mars and Jupiter.

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* FandomRivalry: With the [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Hoenn]] fanbase. This may be mainly due to both regions obviously contrasting each other geography-wise. There's also countless debates and rivalries on whatever featured on their preferred region is better; such as the protagonists, the rivals, trumpets or jazz, Secret Bases or the Underground, Steven or Cynthia, Gardevoir or Lopunny, Mega Rayquaza or Arceus, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap ORAS versions]] of Courtney and Shelly to Mars and Jupiter.Jupiter to name a few.
28th Aug '16 8:28:23 AM MayIncon
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** Cynthia is either a {{Badass}} Champion with a near perfect-team who also has an endearing personality or given too much spotlight considering her constant appearances in ''[=HeartGold=] and [=SoulSilver=]'' and Gen V games. Though to be fair, she's not the only one guilty of this.

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** Cynthia is either a {{Badass}} Champion with a near perfect-team who also has an endearing personality or given too much spotlight considering her constant appearances in ''[=HeartGold=] and [=SoulSilver=]'' and Gen V games. Though to be fair, she's games despite some other characters getting as much if not the only one guilty of this.even more appearances than her in subsequent games.
26th Aug '16 12:47:31 PM KOman
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* BrokenBase: Gen IV is probably where [[CasualCompetitiveConflict competitive gaming]] really started to hit its stride, with the massive number of [=TMs=] and tutor moves, several items that would be impractical in casual play (ex. Choice Specs and Scarf, EV-gain enhancing Power items), the Physical/Special split, and evolutions for many neglected Pokémon. The more casual players, however, weren't so pleased with the lack of innovation to regular gameplay, [[NostalgiaFilter the aforementioned evolutions to old Pokémon]] [[VindicatedByHistory (though they've been received much more positively as time passed)]], the large number of legendaries viewed as dulling the concept (though Sinnoh's theme was mythology), and (in ''Diamond and Pearl'' but not ''Platinum'') the poor frame rate slowing down the adventure.

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* BrokenBase: Gen IV is probably where [[CasualCompetitiveConflict competitive gaming]] really started to hit its stride, with the massive number of [=TMs=] and tutor moves, several items that would be impractical in casual play (ex. Choice Specs and Scarf, EV-gain enhancing Power items), the Physical/Special split, and evolutions for many neglected Pokémon. The more casual players, however, weren't so pleased with the lack of innovation to regular gameplay, [[NostalgiaFilter the aforementioned evolutions to old Pokémon]] [[VindicatedByHistory (though they've been received much more positively as time passed)]], the large number of legendaries viewed as dulling the concept (though Sinnoh's theme was mythology), and (in (more so in ''Diamond and Pearl'' but not than in ''Platinum'') the poor frame rate slowing down the adventure.
25th Aug '16 6:01:50 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* BaseBreaker:

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter:
10th Aug '16 12:29:58 AM Kindle4Light
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* FridgeBrilliance: Dawn and Lucas' ''Platinum'' art has them holding Repeat Balls, because they are repeating their adventure!

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* FridgeBrilliance: Dawn and Lucas' ''Platinum'' art has them holding Repeat Balls, because they are repeating their adventure!Has own page [[Fridge/PokemonDiamondAndPearl here]].
28th Jul '16 9:28:15 AM Anddrix
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** Garchomp, as mentioned under BaseBreaker above, except now it was given a new secondary ability that makes it not so much of a GameBreaker.
** Electivire, despite its [[TierInducedScrappy questionable use in the metagame]], has proven quite popular compared to other [[BaseBreaker evolutions]]. Its design is quite appealing, and its move pool is still noticeably large compared to other [[PoorPredictableRock Electric-types]].

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** Garchomp, as mentioned under BaseBreaker above, except now it was given a new secondary ability that makes it not so much of a GameBreaker.
** Electivire, despite its [[TierInducedScrappy questionable use in the metagame]], has proven quite popular compared to other [[BaseBreaker evolutions]].evolutions. Its design is quite appealing, and its move pool is still noticeably large compared to other [[PoorPredictableRock Electric-types]].



** Zig-zagged with the previous-gen evolutions, who have seen much more positive reception since the beginning of Gen IV but become [[BaseBreaker divisive again]] when [[SuperMode Mega Evolutions]] are introduced, especially because [[NeverLiveItDown most of the]] [[TheScrappy bad apples]] are [[TierInducedScrappy left out even further]] by Generation VI's metagame.

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** Zig-zagged with the previous-gen evolutions, who have seen much more positive reception since the beginning of Gen IV but become [[BaseBreaker divisive again]] again when [[SuperMode Mega Evolutions]] are introduced, especially because [[NeverLiveItDown most of the]] [[TheScrappy bad apples]] are [[TierInducedScrappy left out even further]] by Generation VI's metagame.
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