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Don\'t think I\'ve seen anyone ever make those sorts of complaints - that just seems like grasping for straws


** To be clear, you K.O. enemies in ''Smash Bros.'' by blasting them out of the arena. In ''All Stars'' (where the above method isn't even possible), you K.O. people with attacks that use super meter.
*** Some have called foul for the idea of super combos itself, but considering supermoves in a fighting game had been done long before Brawl, this can be largely overlooked as just a case of FanDumb.
** This has led to people going to truly insane lengths to try and call They Copied It, including saying Fat Princesses moveset is the exact same as Peach's, because they both do a hip check. Never mind that the hip check is basically the only move Fat Princess does by herself, and the rest involve using her archers and wizards to attack for her. Or that the hip check is a move that predates Smash Bros by roughly half a century.

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** To be clear, you K.O. enemies in ''Smash Bros.'' by blasting them out of the arena. In ''All Stars'' (where the above method isn't even possible), you K.O. people with attacks that use super meter.
*** Some have called foul for the idea of super combos itself, but considering supermoves in a fighting game had been done long before Brawl, this can be largely overlooked as just a case of FanDumb.
** This has led to people going to truly insane lengths to try and call They Copied It, including saying Fat Princesses moveset is the exact same as Peach's, because they both do a hip check. Never mind that the hip check is basically the only move Fat Princess does by herself, and the rest involve using her archers and wizards to attack for her. Or that the hip check is a move that predates Smash Bros by roughly half a century.
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They\'re just posting pictures of characters that people make comments about - there\'s no indication that any of them are even being considered for the game


** The [[http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.402936059750258.95129.225673480809851&type=3 Facebook page]] has a list of characters who might get in the game, including {{Rayman}}, [[KingdomHearts Sora]], CrashBandicoot, [[LittleBigPlanet Sackboy]], [[AssassinsCreed Ezio]], '''''and [[DragonBall Goku]].'''''
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** Parappa the Rapper is in the game, filling old-school Playstation fans with glee.

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** Parappa [=PaRappa=] the Rapper is in the game, filling old-school Playstation fans with glee.
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* {{Bowdlerise}}: The three currently revealed M-rated characters (Kratos, Sweet Tooth and Radec) have been toned down with regards to being gory or violent.

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* {{Bowdlerise}}: The three four currently revealed M-rated characters (Kratos, Sweet Tooth Tooth, Radec and Radec) Big Daddy) have been toned down with regards to being gory or violent.
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using smash bros instead of brawl since peach appeared in melee


** This has led to people going to truly insane lengths to try and call They Copied It, including saying Fat Princesses moveset is the exact same as Peaches, because they both do a hip check. Never mind that the hip check is basically the only move Fat Princess does by herself, and the rest involve using her archers and wizards to attack for her. Or that the hip check is a move that predates Brawl by roughly half a century.

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** This has led to people going to truly insane lengths to try and call They Copied It, including saying Fat Princesses moveset is the exact same as Peaches, Peach's, because they both do a hip check. Never mind that the hip check is basically the only move Fat Princess does by herself, and the rest involve using her archers and wizards to attack for her. Or that the hip check is a move that predates Brawl Smash Bros by roughly half a century.
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** The [[http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.402936059750258.95129.225673480809851&type=3 Facebook page]] has a list of characters who might get in the game, including RayMan, [[KingdomHearts Sora]], CrashBandicoot, [[LittleBigPlanet Sackboy]], [[AssassinsCreed Ezio]], '''''and [[DragonBall Goku]].'''''

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** The [[http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.402936059750258.95129.225673480809851&type=3 Facebook page]] has a list of characters who might get in the game, including RayMan, {{Rayman}}, [[KingdomHearts Sora]], CrashBandicoot, [[LittleBigPlanet Sackboy]], [[AssassinsCreed Ezio]], '''''and [[DragonBall Goku]].'''''

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Cloud isn\'t on that list.


*** Crash Bandicoot is actually rumored as well.



** In [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/03/e3-2012-big-daddy-and-drake-in-playstation-all-stars this article,]] a poll on Sony's Facebook leaked both Nathan Drake and [[BioShock Big Daddy.]]
** WordOfGod says about a PlaystationVita version, "Maybe... stay tuned.". What makes this even more notable is that, while it took until the not-even-released-yet fourth installment of the ''SuperSmashBros'' series, its Sony counterpart (maybe) gets a portable outing with its ''first'' installment. If it really happens, it'd be the first time Sony gets ahead of Nintendo in a series inspired by one of the latter's franchises.
** The [[http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.402936059750258.95129.225673480809851&type=3 Facebook page]] has a list of characters who might get in the game, including ''RayMan'', [[FinalFantasy7 Cloud]], ''CrashBandicoot'', [[LittleBigPlanet Sackboy]], [[AssassinsCreed Ezio]], '''''and [[DragonBall Goku]].'''''

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** In [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/03/e3-2012-big-daddy-and-drake-in-playstation-all-stars this article,]] a poll on Sony's Facebook leaked both Nathan Drake and [[BioShock Big Daddy.]]
Daddy]]. Both characters were confirmed during Sony's E3 2012 conference.
** WordOfGod says about a PlaystationVita version, "Maybe... stay tuned.". What makes this even more notable is that, while it took until The E3 2012 announcement that the not-even-released-yet fourth installment game will be seeing a Vita release, and will feature Cross-Play with the PS3 version of the ''SuperSmashBros'' series, its Sony counterpart (maybe) gets a portable outing with its ''first'' installment. If it really happens, it'd be the first time Sony gets ahead of Nintendo in a series inspired by one of the latter's franchises.
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** The [[http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.402936059750258.95129.225673480809851&type=3 Facebook page]] has a list of characters who might get in the game, including ''RayMan'', [[FinalFantasy7 Cloud]], ''CrashBandicoot'', RayMan, [[KingdomHearts Sora]], CrashBandicoot, [[LittleBigPlanet Sackboy]], [[AssassinsCreed Ezio]], '''''and [[DragonBall Goku]].'''''
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** The [[http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.402936059750258.95129.225673480809851&type=3 Facebook page]] has a list of characters who might get in the game, including ''RayMan'', [[FinalFantasy7 Cloud]], ''CrashBandicoot'', [[LittleBigPlanet Sackboy]], and [[AssassinsCreed Ezio]].

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** The [[http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.402936059750258.95129.225673480809851&type=3 Facebook page]] has a list of characters who might get in the game, including ''RayMan'', [[FinalFantasy7 Cloud]], ''CrashBandicoot'', [[LittleBigPlanet Sackboy]], and [[AssassinsCreed Ezio]]. Ezio]], '''''and [[DragonBall Goku]].'''''
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** The [[http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.402936059750258.95129.225673480809851&type=3 Facebook page]] has a list of characters who might get in the game, including ''Rayman'', [[FinalFantasy7 Cloud]], ''CrashBandicoot'', [[LittleBigPlanet Sackboy]], and [[Assassin'sCreed Ezio]].

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** The [[http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.402936059750258.95129.225673480809851&type=3 Facebook page]] has a list of characters who might get in the game, including ''Rayman'', ''RayMan'', [[FinalFantasy7 Cloud]], ''CrashBandicoot'', [[LittleBigPlanet Sackboy]], and [[Assassin'sCreed [[AssassinsCreed Ezio]].
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** The [[http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.402936059750258.95129.225673480809851&type=3 Facebook page]] has a list of characters who might get in the game, including ''Rayman'', [[FinalFantasy7 Cloud]], ''CrashBandicoot'', [[LittleBigPlanet Sackboy]], and [[Assassin'sCreed Ezio]].
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* ScrappyMechanic: From what's seen and talked about, people do not prefer the fact that you can only KO with the supers.
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*** Confirmed to be {{Foreshadowing}} according to the E3 2012 Sony conference.
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** In [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/03/e3-2012-big-daddy-and-drake-in-playstation-all-stars this article,]] a poll on Sony's Facebook leaked both Nathan Drake and [[BioShock Big Daddy.]]
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Except sometimes I screw up the proper Wiki Words. Way to go, Alex Sora 89.


*** Sony [[ShrugOfGod refuses to comment]] on that tweet... which, as one of the voice actors for ''KingdomHearts3D'' said in a similar occasion, "actually ''is'' kind of a dead giveaway". In other words, [[BarbraStreisandEffect Sony basically confirmed the rumor.]]

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*** Sony [[ShrugOfGod refuses to comment]] on that tweet... which, as one of the voice actors for ''KingdomHearts3D'' said in a similar occasion, "actually ''is'' kind of a dead giveaway". In other words, [[BarbraStreisandEffect [[StreisandEffect Sony basically confirmed the rumor.]]

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I hope the pothole to \"Barbra Streisand Effect\" isn\'t seen as some kind of misuse and/or abuse. After all, I think the trope fits.


** [[InFamous Cole McGrath]], [[{{Uncharted}} Nathan Drake]], and a [[MetalGearSolid Snake (Unclear if it's Solid, Old or Naked/Big Boss)]] [[http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/05/18/snake-drake-and-cole-confirmed-for-playstation-all-stars-battle-royale have all been leaked]] by Eric Ladin (Cole's V.A.) tweeting that he's been in the studio with David Hayter & Nolan North.

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** [[InFamous Cole McGrath]], [[{{Uncharted}} Nathan Drake]], and a [[MetalGearSolid Snake (Unclear if it's Solid, Old or Naked/Big Boss)]] [[http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/05/18/snake-drake-and-cole-confirmed-for-playstation-all-stars-battle-royale have all been leaked]] by Eric Ladin (Cole's V.A.) tweeting that he's been in the studio with David Hayter DavidHayter & Nolan North.NolanNorth.
*** Sony [[ShrugOfGod refuses to comment]] on that tweet... which, as one of the voice actors for ''KingdomHearts3D'' said in a similar occasion, "actually ''is'' kind of a dead giveaway". In other words, [[BarbraStreisandEffect Sony basically confirmed the rumor.]]
** WordOfGod says about a PlaystationVita version, "Maybe... stay tuned.". What makes this even more notable is that, while it took until the not-even-released-yet fourth installment of the ''SuperSmashBros'' series, its Sony counterpart (maybe) gets a portable outing with its ''first'' installment. If it really happens, it'd be the first time Sony gets ahead of Nintendo in a series inspired by one of the latter's franchises.
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*** Crash Bandicoot is actually rumored as well.
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** As of May 18, 2012, [[MetalGearSolid Solid Snake]], [[InFamous Cole McGrath]] and [[{{Uncharted}} Nathan Drake]] [[http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/05/18/snake-drake-and-cole-confirmed-for-playstation-all-stars-battle-royale have all been announced!]] Even if it's only as a cameo or background character, the fandom squealed in delight at this announcement.

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** As of May 18, 2012, [[MetalGearSolid Solid Snake]], [[InFamous Cole McGrath]] and McGrath]], [[{{Uncharted}} Nathan Drake]] Drake]], and a [[MetalGearSolid Snake (Unclear if it's Solid, Old or Naked/Big Boss)]] [[http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/05/18/snake-drake-and-cole-confirmed-for-playstation-all-stars-battle-royale have all been announced!]] Even if it's only as a cameo or background character, leaked]] by Eric Ladin (Cole's V.A.) tweeting that he's been in the fandom squealed in delight at this announcement.studio with David Hayter & Nolan North.
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Adding evidence for the first three - no actual evidence for Kevin Butler aside from an IMDB page, which is like Wikipedia


** As of May 18, 2012, [[MetalGearSolid Solid Snake]], [[InFamous Cole McGrath]] and [[{{Uncharted}} Nathan Drake]] have all been announced... as well as [[KevinButler KEVIN BUTLER!!!]] Even if it's only as a cameo or background character, the fandom squealed in delight at this announcement.

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** As of May 18, 2012, [[MetalGearSolid Solid Snake]], [[InFamous Cole McGrath]] and [[{{Uncharted}} Nathan Drake]] [[http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/05/18/snake-drake-and-cole-confirmed-for-playstation-all-stars-battle-royale have all been announced... as well as [[KevinButler KEVIN BUTLER!!!]] announced!]] Even if it's only as a cameo or background character, the fandom squealed in delight at this announcement.
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** As of May 18, 2012, [[MetalGearSolid Solid Snake]], [[InFamous Cole McGrath]] and [[{{Uncharted}} Nathan Drake]] have all been announced... as well as [[KevinButler KEVIN BUTLER!!!]] Even if it's only as a cameo or background character, the fandom squealed in delight at this announcment.

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** As of May 18, 2012, [[MetalGearSolid Solid Snake]], [[InFamous Cole McGrath]] and [[{{Uncharted}} Nathan Drake]] have all been announced... as well as [[KevinButler KEVIN BUTLER!!!]] Even if it's only as a cameo or background character, the fandom squealed in delight at this announcment.announcement.
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** As of May 18, 2012, [[MetalGearSolid Solid Snake]], [[InFamous Cole McGrath]] and [[{{Uncharted}} Nathan Drake]] have all been announced... as well as [[KevinButler KEVIN BUTLER!!!]] Even if it's only as a cameo or background character, the fandom squealed in delight at this announcment.
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** [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]] appearing in ''[[MortalKombat9 Mortal Kombat]]''[[hottip:*: Alongside [[NightmareOnElmStreet Freddy Krueger]]]] and [[{{inFamous}} Cole McGrath]] appearing in ''StreetFighterXTekken''[[hottip:*: With characters from ''StreetFighter'', ''{{Tekken}}'', VideoGame/MegaMan, PacMan, and Sony Japan mascots Toro & Kuro]] have become this.

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** [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]] appearing in ''[[MortalKombat9 Mortal Kombat]]''[[hottip:*: Alongside [[NightmareOnElmStreet Freddy Krueger]]]] Krueger]] and [[{{inFamous}} Cole McGrath]] appearing in ''StreetFighterXTekken''[[hottip:*: With characters from ''StreetFighter'', ''{{Tekken}}'', VideoGame/MegaMan, PacMan, and Sony Japan mascots Toro & Kuro]] have become this.
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I haven\'t found any particularly strong reason to suggest Sonic is a popular choice among this game\'s community.


** Sony are looking at licensing third-party characters - Cue people getting giddy over the ''potential'' of [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Cloud Strife]], [[MetalGearSolid Solid Snake]], CrashBandicoot, SpyroTheDragon, and SonicTheHedgehog[[hottip:*: Since he was in ''[[SuperSmashBros Brawl]]'']] making appearances in the game.

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** Sony are looking at licensing third-party characters - Cue people getting giddy over the ''potential'' of [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Cloud Strife]], [[MetalGearSolid Solid Snake]], CrashBandicoot, SpyroTheDragon, CrashBandicoot and SonicTheHedgehog[[hottip:*: Since he was in ''[[SuperSmashBros Brawl]]'']] SpyroTheDragon making appearances in the game.

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Added a persistent Fan Dumb example, and straightened out a post.


** Nevertheless, it does seem a bit similar to a Final Smash. It may not use a meter, and kills aren't guaranteed with it, but a good number of them will come from it. Most of the fans who have "taken torches and pitchforks" are doing so at ''least'' somewhat rightfully; the way attacks are executed parallels those of ''Super Smash Bros.'' And, of course, it's a mascot fighter, but with first party characters. Sony is the only other company to do this. Percentage systems are undeniably one of the things that makes ''Super Smash Bros.''' stick out, but they're not why Nintendo fans are calling foul. It's the fact that it is a mascot fighter with first party characters with not unlike combat systems.

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** Nevertheless, it does seem a bit similar to a Final Smash. It may not use a meter, and kills aren't guaranteed with it, but a good number of them will come from it. Most of the fans who *** Some have "taken torches called foul for the idea of super combos itself, but considering supermoves in a fighting game had been done long before Brawl, this can be largely overlooked as just a case of FanDumb.
** This has led to people going to truly insane lengths to try
and pitchforks" are doing so at ''least'' somewhat rightfully; call They Copied It, including saying Fat Princesses moveset is the way attacks are executed parallels those of ''Super Smash Bros.'' And, of course, it's exact same as Peaches, because they both do a mascot fighter, but with first party characters. Sony hip check. Never mind that the hip check is basically the only other company to do this. Percentage systems are undeniably one of move Fat Princess does by herself, and the things rest involve using her archers and wizards to attack for her. Or that makes ''Super Smash Bros.''' stick out, but they're not why Nintendo fans are calling foul. It's the fact hip check is a move that it is predates Brawl by roughly half a mascot fighter with first party characters with not unlike combat systems.century.
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** To be clear, you K.O. enemies in ''Smash Bros.'' by blasting them out of the arena. In ''All Stars'' (where the above method isn't even possible), you K.O. people with attacks that use super meter.

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** To be clear, you K.O. enemies in ''Smash Bros.'' by blasting them out of the arena. In ''All Stars'' (where the above method isn't even possible), you K.O. people with attacks that use super meter.meter.
** Nevertheless, it does seem a bit similar to a Final Smash. It may not use a meter, and kills aren't guaranteed with it, but a good number of them will come from it. Most of the fans who have "taken torches and pitchforks" are doing so at ''least'' somewhat rightfully; the way attacks are executed parallels those of ''Super Smash Bros.'' And, of course, it's a mascot fighter, but with first party characters. Sony is the only other company to do this. Percentage systems are undeniably one of the things that makes ''Super Smash Bros.''' stick out, but they're not why Nintendo fans are calling foul. It's the fact that it is a mascot fighter with first party characters with not unlike combat systems.
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* {{Bowderlise}}: The three currently revealed M-rated characters (Kratos, Sweet Tooth and Radec) have been toned down with regards to being gory or violent.

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* {{Bowderlise}}: {{Bowdlerise}}: The three currently revealed M-rated characters (Kratos, Sweet Tooth and Radec) have been toned down with regards to being gory or violent.
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* {{Bowderlise}}: The three currently revealed M-rated characters (Kratos, Sweet Tooth and Radec) have been toned down with regards to being gory or violent.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: ''Despite'' the fact that there is no health or percentage point system... the Nintendo fandom has already taken torches and pitchforks.

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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: ''Despite'' the fact that there is no health or percentage point system... the Nintendo fandom has already taken torches and pitchforks.pitchforks.
** To be clear, you K.O. enemies in ''Smash Bros.'' by blasting them out of the arena. In ''All Stars'' (where the above method isn't even possible), you K.O. people with attacks that use super meter.

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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: ''Despite'' the fact that there is no health or percentage point system... the Nintendo fandom has already taken torches and pitchforks.
** Though for some it's more they copied it but, "I was never really a fan of what they are copying from in the first place."

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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: ''Despite'' the fact that there is no health or percentage point system... the Nintendo fandom has already taken torches and pitchforks.
** Though for some it's more they copied it but, "I was never really a fan of what they are copying from in the first place."
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: ''Despite'' the fact that there is no health or percentage point system... the Nintendo fandom has already taken torches and pitchforks.

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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: ''Despite'' the fact that there is no health or percentage point system... the Nintendo fandom has already taken torches and pitchforks.pitchforks.
**Though for some it's more they copied it but, "I was never really a fan of what they are copying from in the first place."
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: A game where Sony characters come together to duke it out, Smash Bros. style? OH YEAH!
** Parappa the Rapper is in the game, filling old-school Playstation fans with glee.
** Sony are looking at licensing third-party characters - Cue people getting giddy over the ''potential'' of [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Cloud Strife]], [[MetalGearSolid Solid Snake]], CrashBandicoot, SpyroTheDragon, and SonicTheHedgehog[[hottip:*: Since he was in ''[[SuperSmashBros Brawl]]'']] making appearances in the game.
** Terrence C. Carson and Sean Pertwee are reprising their roles as Kratos and Mael Radec respectively.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Parappa
* HateDumb: People claiming that Sony don't have enough interesting characters in their library to make the concept work. The game plans to pull from a variety of franchises which themselves have fans hungry to see these franchises acknowledged. [[http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2011/11/03/new-gameplay-details-on-sonys-smash-bros-fighter-exclusive-to-paul-gale-network/ The Paul Gale Network reported this]]:
-->''The game won’t be littered with half a dozen playable characters from one franchise, rather, supporting characters from these games will have cameos (like the previously mentioned Bentley)''.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** Sony's "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdWkKKSckNk Michael]]" ad campaign created quite a bit of speculation over a potential {{Crossover}}.
** [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]] appearing in ''[[MortalKombat9 Mortal Kombat]]''[[hottip:*: Alongside [[NightmareOnElmStreet Freddy Krueger]]]] and [[{{inFamous}} Cole McGrath]] appearing in ''StreetFighterXTekken''[[hottip:*: With characters from ''StreetFighter'', ''{{Tekken}}'', VideoGame/MegaMan, PacMan, and Sony Japan mascots Toro & Kuro]] have become this.
* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: ''Despite'' the fact that there is no health or percentage point system... the Nintendo fandom has already taken torches and pitchforks.

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