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** In Season 6 Claudia becomes the CoolLoser to LovableAlphaBitch Alexa. Seeing Claudia trying to be InWithTheInCrowd is nothing short of hilarious given Lacey Chabert's role in ''Film/MeanGirls''.
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** In Season 6 Claudia becomes the CoolLoser to LovableAlphaBitch Alexa. Seeing Claudia trying to be InWithTheInCrowd is nothing short of hilarious given Lacey Chabert's role in ''Film/MeanGirls''.
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** Griffin is treated as one of Julia's greatest romances when it's more of a destructive [[{{Literature/Twilight}} Edward Cullen]] relationship. She cheats on Justin with him and then gets mad at him for not being as into the relationship as she is. He seems so disinterested that you have to wonder why Julia is even giving him a chance.
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** Griffin is treated as one of Julia's greatest romances when it's more of a destructive [[{{Literature/Twilight}} [[Literature/TheTwilightSaga Edward Cullen]] relationship. She cheats on Justin with him and then gets mad at him for not being as into the relationship as she is. He seems so disinterested that you have to wonder why Julia is even giving him a chance.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Kirsten's freaking out about her wedding in season 2 is funny. But considering that she ends up [[spoiler: suffering from depression]] in season 3, it now comes across as eerie {{Foreshadowing}}.
* HarsherInHindsight: Bailey casually mentions setting a date for his and Sarah's wedding - it's September 11th. If the wedding had happened, it would have been September 11th '''2000''' meaning their first anniversary would have been...yeah.
* HarsherInHindsight: Bailey casually mentions setting a date for his and Sarah's wedding - it's September 11th. If the wedding had happened, it would have been September 11th '''2000''' meaning their first anniversary would have been...yeah.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: HarsherInHindsight:
** Kirsten's freaking out about her wedding in season 2 is funny. But considering that she ends up [[spoiler: suffering from depression]] in season 3, it now comes across as eerie {{Foreshadowing}}.
* HarsherInHindsight: ** Bailey casually mentions setting a date for his and Sarah's wedding - it's September 11th. If the wedding had happened, it would have been September 11th '''2000''' meaning their first anniversary would have been...yeah.
** Kirsten's freaking out about her wedding in season 2 is funny. But considering that she ends up [[spoiler: suffering from depression]] in season 3, it now comes across as eerie {{Foreshadowing}}.
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** Julia is the least popular of the leads, mostly due to her inability to not fall for guys who aren't already in relationships. Additionally she seems to get a new gal pal every season, implying she's not particularly good at making long-term friendships.
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** Julia is the least popular of the leads, mostly due to her inability to not fall for guys who aren't already in relationships. Additionally she seems to get a new gal pal every season, implying she's not particularly good at making long-term friendships. Then there's how whiny and {{Wangst}}y she is when her problems are usually brought on by her own mistakes.
** And one of the final scenes in the series - [[spoiler: as the Salingers prepare to move out of the family home, they flash back to various moments from the earlier seasons, and finally uncover the charts their parents drew on the wall to measure their ages]]. While bittersweet, this line sells how it really is the EndOfAnEra.
--> "Look how fast we grew."
--> "Look how fast we grew."
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* ValuesDissonance: A large amount of Bailey's storylines make him come across as borderline abusive to the modern audience. He's ready to split up with Kate over her wanting to wait until she's married to have sex, he spends an episode SlutShaming Sarah for wearing skimpy clothes while she performs on stage, and he responds to complaints about being smothering by saying that that's just the way he wants to love Sarah - and it's ''her'' problem if she doesn't like it. There's also the moment where he keeps making drunken advances to Callie to the point that she has to outright yell "No!" to get him to back off. He usually learns AnAesop about this, but it'd be hard to see him played sympathetically in any of those situations today.
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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
** A large amount of Bailey's storylines make him come across as borderline abusive to the modern audience. He's ready to split up with Kate over her wanting to wait until she's married to have sex, he spends an episode SlutShaming Sarah for wearing skimpy clothes while she performs on stage, and he responds to complaints about being smothering by saying that that's just the way he wants to love Sarah - and it's ''her'' problem if she doesn't like it. There's also the moment where he keeps making drunken advances to Callie to the point that she has to outright yell "No!" to get him to back off. He usually learns AnAesop about this, but it'd be hard to see him played sympathetically in any of those situationstoday.today.
** The episode with Alison, Justin's friend from the UK, who reveals feelings for Julia. The latter tries to stop her from leaving with a bad boy in a bar because "she isn't interested in boys" - which is extremely rooted in 90s attitudes that [[NoBisexuals bisexuality doesn't exist]]. Alison merely revealed feelings for women, and Julia has known her for a couple of days, so Alison herself is likely a better judge of who she might be attracted to. There were valid reasons for her not to leave with the guy, such as the massive age difference and how forward he was with her.
** A large amount of Bailey's storylines make him come across as borderline abusive to the modern audience. He's ready to split up with Kate over her wanting to wait until she's married to have sex, he spends an episode SlutShaming Sarah for wearing skimpy clothes while she performs on stage, and he responds to complaints about being smothering by saying that that's just the way he wants to love Sarah - and it's ''her'' problem if she doesn't like it. There's also the moment where he keeps making drunken advances to Callie to the point that she has to outright yell "No!" to get him to back off. He usually learns AnAesop about this, but it'd be hard to see him played sympathetically in any of those situations
** The episode with Alison, Justin's friend from the UK, who reveals feelings for Julia. The latter tries to stop her from leaving with a bad boy in a bar because "she isn't interested in boys" - which is extremely rooted in 90s attitudes that [[NoBisexuals bisexuality doesn't exist]]. Alison merely revealed feelings for women, and Julia has known her for a couple of days, so Alison herself is likely a better judge of who she might be attracted to. There were valid reasons for her not to leave with the guy, such as the massive age difference and how forward he was with her.
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** Charlie during his battle with cancer. Seeing him gradually getting sicker, his family's reaction to everything and him soon losing hope is heartbreaking to watch. One disturbing moment where he believes that he's going to die has him taking on a depressed and cynical approach to life has him discuss how vulnerable everyone in the family is given all they've been through, citing how if Owen doesn't come home one day, [[AdultFear it's because he's been kidnapped or if Claudia doesn't come home, it's because she's been hit by a bus.]]
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** Charlie during his battle with cancer. Seeing him gradually getting sicker, his family's reaction to everything and him soon losing hope is heartbreaking to watch. One disturbing moment where he believes that he's going to die has him taking on a depressed and cynical approach to life has him discuss how vulnerable everyone in the family is given all they've been through, citing how if Owen doesn't come home one day, [[AdultFear it's because he's been kidnapped or if Claudia doesn't come home, it's because she's been hit by a bus.]]
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** Charlie during his battle with cancer. Seeing him gradually getting sicker, his family's reaction to everything and him soon losing hope is heartbreaking to watch. One disturbing moment where he believes that he's going to die has him taking on a depressed and cynical approach to life has him discuss how vulnerable everyone in the family is given all they've been through, citing how if Owen doesn't come home one day, [[AdultFear it's because he's been kidnapped or if Claudia doesn't come home, it's because she's been hit by a bus.]]
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** The first three seasons contain episodes based around {{Gay Aesop}}s that are very much a product of the 90s - when society was still very intolerant to homosexuals. The first one where Claudia learns that Ross is gay is handled quite well (see ValuesResonance on the YMMV page) but still banks on a teenager not knowing one of her close friends is gay.
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** The first three seasons contain episodes based around {{Gay Aesop}}s that are very much a product of the 90s - when society was still very intolerant to homosexuals. The first one where Claudia learns that Ross is gay is handled quite well (see ValuesResonance on the YMMV page) well, but still banks on a teenager not knowing one of her close friends is gay.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece:
** Superficial things like most of the hairstyles and fashions immediately date the show to the 90s - particularly Charlie's curtains hairstyle in Season 1 and the thick fringes on Kirsten and Callie.
** The first three seasons contain episodes based around {{Gay Aesop}}s that are very much a product of the 90s - when society was still very intolerant to homosexuals. The first one where Claudia learns that Ross is gay is handled quite well (see ValuesResonance on the YMMV page) but still banks on a teenager not knowing one of her close friends is gay.
** A gag in a Season 2 episode involves Kirsten trying to rent ''Film/AnAffairToRemember'' for her bachelorette night. This might seem odd to modern viewers, as Kirsten never otherwise shows a love for classic films, but ''Film/SleeplessInSeattle'' had caused the film to enjoy [[RevivalByCommercialization a surge in popularity]] by featuring it. And of course [[TechnologyMarchesOn they rent the film on VHS]].
** The plot setting up Sarah's spin-off involves her moving to New York to try and track down her birth father. She has no definite leads, so she has to move. Such a plot is rooted in a time before internet and social media meant that it would be easier to find the father before meeting him.
** Julia's Season 1 desire to reject her brainiac persona by slacking off at school is very much from 90s attitudes that DumbIsGood.
** Superficial things like most of the hairstyles and fashions immediately date the show to the 90s - particularly Charlie's curtains hairstyle in Season 1 and the thick fringes on Kirsten and Callie.
** The first three seasons contain episodes based around {{Gay Aesop}}s that are very much a product of the 90s - when society was still very intolerant to homosexuals. The first one where Claudia learns that Ross is gay is handled quite well (see ValuesResonance on the YMMV page) but still banks on a teenager not knowing one of her close friends is gay.
** A gag in a Season 2 episode involves Kirsten trying to rent ''Film/AnAffairToRemember'' for her bachelorette night. This might seem odd to modern viewers, as Kirsten never otherwise shows a love for classic films, but ''Film/SleeplessInSeattle'' had caused the film to enjoy [[RevivalByCommercialization a surge in popularity]] by featuring it. And of course [[TechnologyMarchesOn they rent the film on VHS]].
** The plot setting up Sarah's spin-off involves her moving to New York to try and track down her birth father. She has no definite leads, so she has to move. Such a plot is rooted in a time before internet and social media meant that it would be easier to find the father before meeting him.
** Julia's Season 1 desire to reject her brainiac persona by slacking off at school is very much from 90s attitudes that DumbIsGood.
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** Maggie Lawson's Alexa in Season 6 was a nice LovableAlphaBitch friend for Claudia. However she's only in six episodes.
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** Maggie Lawson's Creator/MaggieLawson's Alexa in Season 6 was a nice LovableAlphaBitch friend for Claudia. However she's only in six episodes.
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** Similarly, even less people care for Daphne Jablonsky. Not only is she seen as beneath Charlie (she's a stripper and none-too-bright), but many were furious when she got pregnant with Diana [[spoiler: and then abandoned her shortly after her premature birth.]]
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* ValuesDissonance: A large amount of Bailey's storylines make him come across as borderline abusive to the modern audience. He's ready to split up with Kate over her wanting to wait until she's married to have sex, he spends an episode SlutShaming Sarah for wearing skimpy clothes while she performs on stage, and he responds to complaints about being smothering by saying that that's just the way he wants to love Sarah - and it's ''her'' problem if she doesn't like it. He usually learns AnAesop about this, but it'd be hard to see him played sympathetically in any of those situations today.
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* ValuesDissonance: A large amount of Bailey's storylines make him come across as borderline abusive to the modern audience. He's ready to split up with Kate over her wanting to wait until she's married to have sex, he spends an episode SlutShaming Sarah for wearing skimpy clothes while she performs on stage, and he responds to complaints about being smothering by saying that that's just the way he wants to love Sarah - and it's ''her'' problem if she doesn't like it. There's also the moment where he keeps making drunken advances to Callie to the point that she has to outright yell "No!" to get him to back off. He usually learns AnAesop about this, but it'd be hard to see him played sympathetically in any of those situations today.
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* NotSoCrazyAnymore: With the commercial appropriation and privatization of the internet in 1995, the internet was still an unsure thing for many companies in terms of marketability. However, Sony wanted to start testing the idea that the internet could be used as a medium for fan interaction, starting with ''Party of Five''. Many other networks took years to consider the internet as a viable medium (although network upstarts [[{{Creator/TheWB}} The WB]] and {{Creator/UPN}} quickly followed suit), and as such ''Party'' had the likely the largest online growth for its time commercially. Fan forums themselves were nothing new, as tech-savvy individuals had been using Usenet discussion boards since even before the 90s at the time, but it was the first time the idea was embraced by studios, and it was the first time that TV fan sites were made accessible to the average viewer in ISP form. Indeed, by 1997, there were over 50 dedicated fan sites all across the United States and Europe, more than any other non-sci-fi show (with sci-fi shows of course running the largest share of fan sites and forums) by a huge margin. Also, star Matthew Fox would occcasionally host ''Party of Five'' conferences on Compuserve's eDrive (Entertainment Drive) forum, one of the earliest predecessors to now-popular Reddit 'Ask Me Anything' events
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* {{Moe}}: Claudia at her youngest in Season 1. After she grew older, Owen took her place in this regard.
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* TakeThatScrappy: After Bailey's rather nasty break-up with Kate - over being annoyed that she won't have sex with him - Julia publishes a story that exaggerates her family's quirks. Bailey is portrayed as a "sex drive with legs".
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* BrokenBase: Bailey. To fans he is either TheWoobie who just needs some love or a self-centred Jerkass.
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* BrokenBase: Bailey. To BaseBreakingCharacter: Bailey was quite popular and had a large amount of fans when the show was airing, but as time has gone on, he is either TheWoobie has a growing number of detractors. His fans view him as a Woobie who just needs some love or gets taken advantage of and behaves realistically for a teen in his circumstances. His detractors however see him as whiny, self-centred Jerkass.and overly entitled.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Claudia was the most popular of the kids. Sarah too, enough that producers wanted to give her a spin-off show. Out of the supporting cast, Will was another. Enough to be made a regular again for Season 6.
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** Claudia was always the most popular of thekids. Sarah too, enough that producers wanted siblings, due to give Lacey Chabert having an equal balance of cuteness and sass (and sometimes behaving more maturely than Bailey and Julia). Even as she aged, fans still liked her a spin-off show. Out of the supporting cast, Will was another. Enough character.
** As most characters played by Creator/ScottGrimes tend to bemade darkhorses, this rings true with Will. He manages to be both PluckyComicRelief and the OnlySaneMan at the same time. Him becoming a regular again for is viewed as one of the redeeming things about Season 6.6.
** This is to say nothing of Sarah Reeves. This show, along with ''Film/IKnowWhatYouDidLastSummer'' turned Jennifer Love Hewitt into a teen superstar. Producers even tested out giving her a spin-off, which was unsuccessful.
** Claudia was always the most popular of the
** As most characters played by Creator/ScottGrimes tend to be
** This is to say nothing of Sarah Reeves. This show, along with ''Film/IKnowWhatYouDidLastSummer'' turned Jennifer Love Hewitt into a teen superstar. Producers even tested out giving her a spin-off, which was unsuccessful.
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* HilariousInHindsight: In Season 6 Claudia becomes the CoolLoser to LovableAlphaBitch Alexa. Seeing Claudia trying to be InWithTheInCrowd is nothing short of hilarious given Lacey Chabert's role in ''Film/MeanGirls''.
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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
** In Season 6 Claudia becomes the CoolLoser to LovableAlphaBitch Alexa. Seeing Claudia trying to be InWithTheInCrowd is nothing short of hilarious given Lacey Chabert's role in ''Film/MeanGirls''.
** In Season 6 Claudia becomes the CoolLoser to LovableAlphaBitch Alexa. Seeing Claudia trying to be InWithTheInCrowd is nothing short of hilarious given Lacey Chabert's role in ''Film/MeanGirls''.
* JerkassWoobie:
** Bailey is self-centred, {{Wangst}}y and occasionally abusive at times. But it can be incredibly hard to suddenly have to contribute to your family's finances at sixteen, deal with a drug-addicted girlfriend and [[spoiler: her eventual death]]. It's no wonder he ends up turning to the bottle in Season 3.
** Julia too is a bratty little thing but she does have to suffer through a lot of ordeals - like the miscarriage of her baby, her marriage with Griffin falling apart and Ned hitting her.
** Claudia's rebellious friend Jody becomes this once it's revealed her stepfather molests her.
** Bailey is self-centred, {{Wangst}}y and occasionally abusive at times. But it can be incredibly hard to suddenly have to contribute to your family's finances at sixteen, deal with a drug-addicted girlfriend and [[spoiler: her eventual death]]. It's no wonder he ends up turning to the bottle in Season 3.
** Julia too is a bratty little thing but she does have to suffer through a lot of ordeals - like the miscarriage of her baby, her marriage with Griffin falling apart and Ned hitting her.
** Claudia's rebellious friend Jody becomes this once it's revealed her stepfather molests her.
* ValuesDissonance: A large amount of Bailey's storylines make him come across as borderline abusive to the modern audience. He's ready to split up with Kate over her wanting to wait until she's married to have sex, he spends an episode SlutShaming Sarah for wearing skimpy clothes while she performs on stage, and he responds to complaints about being smothering by saying that that's just the way he wants to love Sarah - and it's ''her'' problem if she doesn't like it. He usually learns AnAesop about this, but it'd be hard to see him played sympathetically in any of those situations today.
* ValuesResonance: The episode where Claudia discovers Ross is gay. It avoids becoming a VerySpecialEpisode or a LongLostUncleAesop. Ross had been part of the main cast, didn't disappear after the revelation and had some of his own subplots later on. Bear in mind this was 1994, only just after ''{{Film/Philadelphia}}'' had been released. Notably although Claudia is surprised at first, she quickly realises she doesn't care.
* ValuesResonance: The episode where Claudia discovers Ross is gay. It avoids becoming a VerySpecialEpisode or a LongLostUncleAesop. Ross had been part of the main cast, didn't disappear after the revelation and had some of his own subplots later on. Bear in mind this was 1994, only just after ''{{Film/Philadelphia}}'' had been released. Notably although Claudia is surprised at first, she quickly realises she doesn't care.
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* TheWoobie: Claudia for a while and then Owen.
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** Claudia in early seasons. She loses both her parents at the age of twelve, and her only comfort is the violin. She doesn't seem to have too many friends, and she's often ignored by the other siblings. Then there's one episode where the poor thing witnesses a robbery and has nightmares over it.
** Charlie at the age of twenty-four suddenly has to become the breadwinner fora while his younger siblings. Despite his efforts, they don't always respect him or go along with him. Namely one episode has Claudia taking horrible advantage and then Owen.he nearly hits her over it - and is horrified with himself. His freakout before his wedding in Season 2 can hit home for anyone who's been in a similar situation.
** Sarah discovers that she's adopted, something her parents kept from her most of her life. Throughout the show, she discovers she's the ReplacementGoldfish to a guy she really liked, he cheats on her, and gets her into a car crash.
** Kirsten gets cheated on, left at the altar, discovers she's infertile and [[spoiler: ends up suffering from depression after her dissertation is discredited due to a clerical error]].
** Claudia in early seasons. She loses both her parents at the age of twelve, and her only comfort is the violin. She doesn't seem to have too many friends, and she's often ignored by the other siblings. Then there's one episode where the poor thing witnesses a robbery and has nightmares over it.
** Charlie at the age of twenty-four suddenly has to become the breadwinner for
** Sarah discovers that she's adopted, something her parents kept from her most of her life. Throughout the show, she discovers she's the ReplacementGoldfish to a guy she really liked, he cheats on her, and gets her into a car crash.
** Kirsten gets cheated on, left at the altar, discovers she's infertile and [[spoiler: ends up suffering from depression after her dissertation is discredited due to a clerical error]].
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* CreatorsPet:
** Griffin is treated as one of Julia's greatest romances when it's more of a destructive [[{{Literature/Twilight}} Edward Cullen]] relationship. She cheats on Justin with him and then gets mad at him for not being as into the relationship as she is. He seems so disinterested that you have to wonder why Julia is even giving him a chance.
** Grace in Season 3 is incredibly cold and bitchy to Charlie. While he's rude to her first, he apologises for this and she never apologises for her rudeness. Similar to the Griffin example, there's no actual reason for Charlie to fall for her.
** Griffin is treated as one of Julia's greatest romances when it's more of a destructive [[{{Literature/Twilight}} Edward Cullen]] relationship. She cheats on Justin with him and then gets mad at him for not being as into the relationship as she is. He seems so disinterested that you have to wonder why Julia is even giving him a chance.
** Grace in Season 3 is incredibly cold and bitchy to Charlie. While he's rude to her first, he apologises for this and she never apologises for her rudeness. Similar to the Griffin example, there's no actual reason for Charlie to fall for her.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Bailey and Sarah and Charlie and Kirsten, which is likely the reason that [[spoiler: although they split up initially, they reconcile much later on]]. The former case only [[spoiler: split up because Sarah had to be PutOnABus for her own show]].
** Out of Julia's ''many'' flames, Justin seems to be the preferred one - likely due to the VictoriousChildhoodFriend element. Probably helped by them [[spoiler: becoming AmicableExes and still together in a WhatIf episode]].
** Out of Julia's ''many'' flames, Justin seems to be the preferred one - likely due to the VictoriousChildhoodFriend element. Probably helped by them [[spoiler: becoming AmicableExes and still together in a WhatIf episode]].
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** Bailey and Sarah and Charlie and Kirsten, which is likely the reason that [[spoiler: although they split up initially, they reconcile much later on]]. The former case only [[spoiler: split up because Sarah had to be PutOnABus for her own show]].
** Out of Julia's ''many'' flames, Justin seems to be the preferred one - likely due to the VictoriousChildhoodFriend element. Probably helped by them [[spoiler: becoming AmicableExes andstill together in a WhatIf episode]].who hook up at the end.]].
** Bailey and Sarah and Charlie and Kirsten, which is likely the reason that [[spoiler: although they split up initially, they reconcile much later on]]. The former case only [[spoiler: split up because Sarah had to be PutOnABus for her own show]].
** Out of Julia's ''many'' flames, Justin seems to be the preferred one - likely due to the VictoriousChildhoodFriend element. Probably helped by them [[spoiler: becoming AmicableExes and
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* LesYay: Claudia and her friend Jody are a little too close.
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* LesYay: Claudia and her friend Jody are a little too close. Claudia is again rather close with Alexa in Season 6.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Inverted. Sarah is more fondly remembered than her predecessors Nina (as Julia's gal pal) and Jill (Bailey's love interest). Though see TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below.
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** Inverted. Sarah is more fondly remembered than her predecessors Nina (as Julia's gal pal) and Jill (Bailey's love interest). Though see TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below.
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* TearJerker: Many moments to choose from but the most heart wrenching is Claudia's breakdown in front of Bailey at his intervention where she threatens to stop loving him and orders him out of their lives if he doesn't get better.
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** Many moments to choose from but the most heart wrenching is Claudia's breakdown in front of Bailey at his intervention where she threatens to stop loving him and orders him out of their lives if he doesn't get better.
** Many moments to choose from but the most heart wrenching is Claudia's breakdown in front of Bailey at his intervention where she threatens to stop loving him and orders him out of their lives if he doesn't get better.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Two of Bailey's season 1 girlfriends Kate and Jill were both quite interesting. Kate was PutOnABus and she and Bailey became AmicableExes in her last appearance, while Jill was abruptly killed off in the season finale. Of course since fan favourite Sarah was introduced in the next season, it's not as bad as other examples.
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** Two of Bailey's season 1 girlfriends Kate and Jill were both quite interesting. Kate was PutOnABus and she and Bailey became AmicableExes in her last appearance, while Jill was abruptly killed off in the season finale. Of course since fan favourite Sarah was introduced in the next season, it's not as bad as other examples.
** Two of Bailey's season 1 girlfriends Kate and Jill were both quite interesting. Kate was PutOnABus and she and Bailey became AmicableExes in her last appearance, while Jill was abruptly killed off in the season finale. Of course since fan favourite Sarah was introduced in the next season, it's not as bad as other examples.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: It's quite possible that Julia could have an addiction to conflict and drama in her life. Given that she doesn't develop interests in guys who don't have some kind of big flaw or emotional baggage, it looks as though she loves creating conflict in her life. She's happy with Justin and inexplicably starts seeing Griffin - despite complaining numerous times about him not caring that he's with her. The only reason their relationship ends is because he gets PutOnABus at first. She also seems to go out of her way to romance guys who are already with someone else - Justin was with Libby and Ned was with Maggie. One must wonder how [[spoiler: her LastMinuteHookUp with Justin]] will last.
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** Holly in Season 6 had potential to become this. That's probably the reason [[spoiler: she ends up with Will instead of Bailey]].
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* TheScrappy: Julia is the least popular of the leads, mostly due to her inability to not fall for guys who aren't already in relationships. Additionally she seems to get a new gal pal every season, implying she's not particularly good at making long-term friendships.
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** Julia is the least popular of the leads, mostly due to her inability to not fall for guys who aren't already in relationships. Additionally she seems to get a new gal pal every season, implying she's not particularly good at making long-termfriendships.friendships.
** Few people have any love for Grace Wilcox, Charlie's girlfriend in Season 3. Not only is she a ReplacementScrappy for Kirsten but she has very few redeeming qualities.
** Julia is the least popular of the leads, mostly due to her inability to not fall for guys who aren't already in relationships. Additionally she seems to get a new gal pal every season, implying she's not particularly good at making long-term
** Few people have any love for Grace Wilcox, Charlie's girlfriend in Season 3. Not only is she a ReplacementScrappy for Kirsten but she has very few redeeming qualities.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Bailey, Julia and Claudia in "Dearly Beloved". Charlie and Kirsten decide to elope and get married in Reno. The siblings are furious at this and when the couple don't go through with it, they apologise. Except that the three siblings had been excessively butting in with wedding preparations - to the point that Kirsten was freaking out about the stress of it all. Despite her rebuffing some of their excessive ideas, they don't listen and keep pressuring her. What's more is that while Charlie and Kirsten apologise for the attempted elopement, the other three never apologise for their behaviour.
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** Claudia having ACupAngst is incredibly ironic if you've ever seen Lacey Chabert in anything made after this show. Let's just say puberty was ''very'' kind to her.
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** Brittany Murphy appears in Season 1 as an AlphaBitch that Julia tries to impress. Skip to ''{{Film/Clueless}}'' ''Film/{{Clueless}}'' where Murphy is the uncool one. Also Julia's nerd friend is named Libby. Skip ahead to ''Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch'' where a character called Libby would be the former TropeNamer for AlphaBitch.
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* DieForOurShip: Julia/Griffin vs Julia/Justin. Shockingly avoided for most other couples - as the other siblings rarely had enough long-term love interests.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Claudia was the most popular of the kids. Sarah too, enough that producers wanted to give her a spin-off show. Out of the supporting cast, Will was another. Enough to be made a regular again for Season 6.
* FanPreferredCouple: Bailey and Sarah and Charlie and Kirsten, which is likely the reason that [[spoiler: although they split up initially, they reconcile much later on]]. The former case only [[spoiler: split up because Sarah had to be PutOnABus for her own show]].
** Out of Julia's ''many'' flames, Justin seems to be the preferred one - likely due to the VictoriousChildhoodFriend element. Probably helped by them [[spoiler: becoming AmicableExes and still together in a WhatIf episode]].
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Claudia was the most popular of the kids. Sarah too, enough that producers wanted to give her a spin-off show. Out of the supporting cast, Will was another. Enough to be made a regular again for Season 6.
* FanPreferredCouple: Bailey and Sarah and Charlie and Kirsten, which is likely the reason that [[spoiler: although they split up initially, they reconcile much later on]]. The former case only [[spoiler: split up because Sarah had to be PutOnABus for her own show]].
** Out of Julia's ''many'' flames, Justin seems to be the preferred one - likely due to the VictoriousChildhoodFriend element. Probably helped by them [[spoiler: becoming AmicableExes and still together in a WhatIf episode]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: In Season 6 Claudia becomes the CoolLoser to LovableAlphaBitch Alexa. Seeing Claudia trying to be InWithTheInCrowd is nothing short of hilarious given Lacey Chabert's role in ''Film/MeanGirls''.
** Claudia in Season 3 hires someone to cleanse the house of evil spirits. Around this time Neve Campbell (who plays Julia) starred in ''Film/TheCraft'' as a teen dabbling in witchcraft.
** Brittany Murphy appears in Season 1 as an AlphaBitch that Julia tries to impress. Skip to ''{{Film/Clueless}}'' where Murphy is the uncool one. Also Julia's nerd friend is named Libby. Skip ahead to ''Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch'' where a character called Libby would be the former TropeNamer for AlphaBitch.
** Claudia in Season 3 hires someone to cleanse the house of evil spirits. Around this time Neve Campbell (who plays Julia) starred in ''Film/TheCraft'' as a teen dabbling in witchcraft.
** Brittany Murphy appears in Season 1 as an AlphaBitch that Julia tries to impress. Skip to ''{{Film/Clueless}}'' where Murphy is the uncool one. Also Julia's nerd friend is named Libby. Skip ahead to ''Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch'' where a character called Libby would be the former TropeNamer for AlphaBitch.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Inverted. Sarah is more fondly remembered than her predecessors Nina (as Julia's gal pal) and Jill (Bailey's love interest). Though see TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below.
** Holly in Season 6 had potential to become this. That's probably the reason [[spoiler: she ends up with Will instead of Bailey]].
** Holly in Season 6 had potential to become this. That's probably the reason [[spoiler: she ends up with Will instead of Bailey]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Two of Bailey's season 1 girlfriends Kate and Jill were both quite interesting. Kate was PutOnABus and she and Bailey became AmicableExes in her last appearance, while Jill was abruptly killed off in the season finale. Of course since fan favourite Sarah was introduced in the next season, it's not as bad as other examples.
** Maggie Lawson's Alexa in Season 6 was a nice LovableAlphaBitch friend for Claudia. However she's only in six episodes.
** Nina played a nice best friend role to Julia in season 1. She got one episode in season 2 and spent the rest of the series being mentioned off-screen - as Sarah took on Nina's role in addition to her romance with Bailey.
** Maggie Lawson's Alexa in Season 6 was a nice LovableAlphaBitch friend for Claudia. However she's only in six episodes.
** Nina played a nice best friend role to Julia in season 1. She got one episode in season 2 and spent the rest of the series being mentioned off-screen - as Sarah took on Nina's role in addition to her romance with Bailey.
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* {{Wangst}}: Sarah's complaints about Bailey making her feel like a kept woman. It's simply him celebrating having a higher salary by buying her a couple of expensive gifts and paying for dinner. She flips out when he pays a bill for her ''when she's about to be late to pay it''.
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* UnfortunateImplications: the series is about five siblings dealing with the fact their parents died. The RealSongThemeTune is titled ''"Closer To Free"''. [[FlatWhat What.]]
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* AccidentalInnuendo: One of Julia and Griffin's first scenes has her talking about stains on his coat. Specifically Julia starts talking about where they possibly could have come from. The line she uses is "you see those little white stains" - she immediately says something about milk but come on, we all know what the first assumption was.
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* NarmCharm: A scene between Julia and Griffin after [[spoiler: Jill's death]] has her buying him a second-hand coat Jill had planned to get for him. Julia starts making up scenarios about where the rips, tears and stains came from. What she says is rather ridiculous and a little silly - yet it has Griffin opening up to her and the scene is rather sweet.
* RomanticPlotTumour: Any romance plot that involves Julia tends to become this. She's guaranteed to have at least two love interests per season. Charlie and Kirsten narrowly avoid this as after they split in season 3, they become AmicableExes for a while - and they are spared any more romance drama [[spoiler: as they get together for good at the start of season 6]].
* TheScrappy: Julia is the least popular of the leads, mostly due to her inability to not fall for guys who aren't already in relationships. Additionally she seems to get a new gal pal every season, implying she's not particularly good at making long-term friendships.
* SeasonalRot: Seasons 5 and 6 aren't liked too well by the fandom.
* RomanticPlotTumour: Any romance plot that involves Julia tends to become this. She's guaranteed to have at least two love interests per season. Charlie and Kirsten narrowly avoid this as after they split in season 3, they become AmicableExes for a while - and they are spared any more romance drama [[spoiler: as they get together for good at the start of season 6]].
* TheScrappy: Julia is the least popular of the leads, mostly due to her inability to not fall for guys who aren't already in relationships. Additionally she seems to get a new gal pal every season, implying she's not particularly good at making long-term friendships.
* SeasonalRot: Seasons 5 and 6 aren't liked too well by the fandom.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Claudia was the most popular of the kids.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Kirsten's freaking out about her wedding in season 2 is funny. But considering that she ends up [[spoiler: suffering from depression]] in season 3, it now comes across as eerie {{Foreshadowing}}.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Kirsten's freaking out about her wedding in season 2 is funny. But considering that she ends up [[spoiler: suffering from depression]] in season 3, it now comes across as eerie {{Foreshadowing}}.
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* CrowningMomentofFunny: One episode has the older siblings discover Claudia has gone missing. They call the police and search the neighbourhood and the next morning come down to breakfast to find her in the kitchen. Turns out she'd been at a sleepover and they'd forgotten.
** Another one that qualifies is Kirsten trying on the Salinger mother's wedding dress which of course does not fit. It's apparently the last straw for her as when Charlie tries to calm her down she shrieks: "A little anxious!? I'm gonna need a straitjacket! Hey, why don't I wear one of those? It's white, it's classic and it'll fit me better than this!"
** Another one that qualifies is Kirsten trying on the Salinger mother's wedding dress which of course does not fit. It's apparently the last straw for her as when Charlie tries to calm her down she shrieks: "A little anxious!? I'm gonna need a straitjacket! Hey, why don't I wear one of those? It's white, it's classic and it'll fit me better than this!"
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* HarsherInHindsight: Bailey casually mentions setting a date for his and Sarah's wedding - it's September 11th. If the wedding had happened, it would have been September 11th '''2000''' meaning their first anniversary would have been...yeah.
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* BrokenBase: Bailey. To fans he is either TheWoobie who just needs some love or a self-centred Jerkass.
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* LesYay: Claudia and her friend Jody are a little too close.
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* WallBanger: Julia wants to date Justin but he's seeing her best friend. He breaks it off with said friend when he finds out Julia wants him and the friend says she will never forgive Julia and so disappears from the show. Julia and Justin get together shamelessly.
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* WallBanger: Julia wants to date Justin but he's seeing her best friend. He breaks it off with said friend when he finds out Julia wants him and the friend says she will never forgive Julia and so disappears from the show. Julia and Justin get together shamelessly.shamelessly.
* TheWoobie: Claudia for a while and then Owen.
* TheWoobie: Claudia for a while and then Owen.
