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* SignatureScene: The opening sequence showing the genetically altered plants taking over and destroying the moon before reaching the Earth is fondly remembered for its great animation and SilenceIsGolden execution. For some people it's also the JustHereForGodzilla and don't bother sitting through the rest of the film due to its unenthusiastic reception.
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* SignatureScene: The opening sequence showing the genetically altered plants taking over and destroying the moon before reaching the Earth is fondly remembered for its great animation and SilenceIsGolden execution. For some people it's also the JustHereForGodzilla and don't bother sitting through the rest of the film due to its unenthusiastic reception.reception deeming that the story doesn't live up to such strong beginning.
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* SignatureScene: The opening sequence showing the genetically altered plants taking over and destroying the moon before reaching the Earth is fondly remembered for its great animation and SilenceIsGolden execution. For some people it's also the JustHereForGodzilla and don't bother sitting through the rest of the film due to its unenthusiastic reception.
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If they did anything to successfully subvert that sympathy than not this.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Shunack. While he is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wishes to undo the damages done to Earth [[spoiler:and correct his mistake]], he's still supposed to be in the wrong as he advocates for dangerous and extremist measures. However, some fans end up siding with his cause, arguing that it would be a good thing to destroy the Forest based on BlueAndOrangeMorality. [[spoiler:His [[MoralEventHorizon decision]] to destroy Neutral City out of spite marks the point where he lost most of the audience's sympathy.]]
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Shunack. StrawmanHasAPoint: While he Shunack is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wishes to undo the damages done to Earth [[spoiler:and correct his mistake]], he's still supposed to be in the wrong as he advocates for dangerous and extremist measures. However, some fans end up siding with his cause, arguing that it would be a good thing to destroy the Forest based on BlueAndOrangeMorality. [[spoiler:His [[MoralEventHorizon decision]] to destroy Neutral City out of spite marks the point where he lost most of the audience's sympathy.]]
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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process
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* UncannyValley: The twin forest spirits intentionally fall into this. They are basically FairFolk, after all. Their attempts at mimicking human appearance and behavior is going to be spotty.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Shunack. While he is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wishes to undo the damages done to Earth [[spoiler:and correct his mistake]], he's still supposed to be in the wrong as he advocates for dangerous and extremist measures. However, some fans end up siding with his cause, arguing that it would be a good thing to destroy the Forest that has a bit of a BlueAndOrangeMorality. [[spoiler:His [[MoralEventHorizon decision]] to destroy Neutral City as well out of spite marks the point where he loses the audience's sympathy.]]
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Shunack. While he is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wishes to undo the damages done to Earth [[spoiler:and correct his mistake]], he's still supposed to be in the wrong as he advocates for dangerous and extremist measures. However, some fans end up siding with his cause, arguing that it would be a good thing to destroy the Forest that has a bit of a based on BlueAndOrangeMorality. [[spoiler:His [[MoralEventHorizon decision]] to destroy Neutral City as well out of spite marks the point where he loses lost most of the audience's sympathy.]]
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* SpecialEffectFailure: Many forest monsters are made with very unconvincing CGI.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
** The movie's theme song "With Reflection" is gorgeous. The full name is Chouwa Oto ~With Reflection~, and it's by KOKIA, a prominent name in anime music (the artist did a wonderful cover of "Desperado" by Music/TheEagles). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_dtrZXmfBQ Here's an obligatory link to the original.]]
** The ending piece "Ai no Melody" (lit. "Melody of Love") is a beautiful, glorious mix of awesome which manages to be both a [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments Crowning Music of Heartwarming]] ''and'' a TearJerker.
** The movie's theme song "With Reflection" is gorgeous. The full name is Chouwa Oto ~With Reflection~, and it's by KOKIA, a prominent name in anime music (the artist did a wonderful cover of "Desperado" by Music/TheEagles). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_dtrZXmfBQ Here's an obligatory link to the original.]]
** The ending piece "Ai no Melody" (lit. "Melody of Love") is a beautiful, glorious mix of awesome which manages to be both a [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments Crowning Music of Heartwarming]] ''and'' a TearJerker.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
** The movie's theme song "With Reflection" is gorgeous. The full name is Chouwa Oto ~With Reflection~, and it's by KOKIA, a prominent name in anime music (the artist did a wonderful cover of "Desperado" by Music/TheEagles). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_dtrZXmfBQ Here's an obligatory link to the original.]]
** The ending piece "Ai no Melody" (lit. "Melody of Love") is a beautiful, glorious mix of awesome which manages to be both a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Crowning Music of Heartwarming]] ''and'' a TearJerker.
** The movie's theme song "With Reflection" is gorgeous. The full name is Chouwa Oto ~With Reflection~, and it's by KOKIA, a prominent name in anime music (the artist did a wonderful cover of "Desperado" by Music/TheEagles). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_dtrZXmfBQ Here's an obligatory link to the original.]]
** The ending piece "Ai no Melody" (lit. "Melody of Love") is a beautiful, glorious mix of awesome which manages to be both a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Crowning Music of Heartwarming]] ''and'' a TearJerker.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Shunack. While he is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wishes to undo the damages done to Earth [[spoiler:and correct his mistake]], he's still supposed to be in the wrong as he advocates for dangerous and extremist measures. However, some fans end up siding with his cause, arguing that it would be a good thing to destroy the Forest that has a bit of a BlueAndOrangeMorality. [[spoiler:His [[MoralEventHorizon decision]] to destroy Neutral City as well out of spite marks the point where he loses the audience's sympathy.]]]]
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: Schunack talks of "wiping the slate clean" in regards to humanity and keeps a firm hold on Toola even after she has served her purpose with the Ragan. It is frightful to consider what he planned to do to her after he killed all the other humans. Was he planning on repopulating it?]]
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: Schunack talks of "wiping the slate clean" in regards to humanity and keeps a firm hold on Toola even after she has served her purpose with the Ragan.Raban. It is frightful to consider what he planned to do to her after he killed all the other humans. Was he planning on repopulating it?]]the earth?]]
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Shunack. While he is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wishes to undo the damages done to Earth [[spoiler:and correct his mistake]], he's still supposed to be in the wrong as he advocates for dangerous and extremist measures. However, some fans end up siding with his cause, arguing that it would be a good thing to destroy the Forest that has a bit of a BlueAndOrangeMorality.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Shunack. While he is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wishes to undo the damages done to Earth [[spoiler:and correct his mistake]], he's still supposed to be in the wrong as he advocates for dangerous and extremist measures. However, some fans end up siding with his cause, arguing that it would be a good thing to destroy the Forest that has a bit of a BlueAndOrangeMorality. [[spoiler:His [[MoralEventHorizon decision]] to destroy Neutral City as well out of spite marks the point where he loses the audience's sympathy.]]
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typo. Shunack was going to destroy everything, including the water pumping machines used by the most industrial society. Also, using the E.S.T.O.C. was never going to restore the former civilization. THAT would require something other than a volcano weapon.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Shunack. While he is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wishes to undo the damages done to Earth [[spoiler:and corret his mistake]], he's still supposed to be in the wrong as he advocates for dangerous and extremist measures. However, some fans end up siding with his cause, arguing that it would be a good thing to destroy the Forest that has a bit of a BlueAndOrangeMorality and to bring the Earth back to its state before the disaster... a state in which humans don't have to struggle to find water. His decision to [[spoiler:destroy Neutral City out of spite]], that comes a little out of nowhere, seems to have been added specifically to give the audience a reason to root against him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Shunack. While he is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wishes to undo the damages done to Earth [[spoiler:and corret correct his mistake]], he's still supposed to be in the wrong as he advocates for dangerous and extremist measures. However, some fans end up siding with his cause, arguing that it would be a good thing to destroy the Forest that has a bit of a BlueAndOrangeMorality and to bring the Earth back to its state before the disaster... a state in which humans don't have to struggle to find water. His decision to [[spoiler:destroy Neutral City out of spite]], that comes a little out of nowhere, seems to have been added specifically to give the audience a reason to root against him.BlueAndOrangeMorality.
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* UncannyValley: The twin forest spirits intentionally fall into this. They are basically FairFolk, after all. Their attempts at mimicking human appearance and behavior is going to be spotty.
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* UncannyValley: The twin forest spirits intentionally fall into this. They are basically FairFolk, after all. Their attempts at mimicking human appearance and behavior is going to be spotty.spotty.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Shunack. While he is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wishes to undo the damages done to Earth [[spoiler:and corret his mistake]], he's still supposed to be in the wrong as he advocates for dangerous and extremist measures. However, some fans end up siding with his cause, arguing that it would be a good thing to destroy the Forest that has a bit of a BlueAndOrangeMorality and to bring the Earth back to its state before the disaster... a state in which humans don't have to struggle to find water. His decision to [[spoiler:destroy Neutral City out of spite]], that comes a little out of nowhere, seems to have been added specifically to give the audience a reason to root against him.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Shunack. While he is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wishes to undo the damages done to Earth [[spoiler:and corret his mistake]], he's still supposed to be in the wrong as he advocates for dangerous and extremist measures. However, some fans end up siding with his cause, arguing that it would be a good thing to destroy the Forest that has a bit of a BlueAndOrangeMorality and to bring the Earth back to its state before the disaster... a state in which humans don't have to struggle to find water. His decision to [[spoiler:destroy Neutral City out of spite]], that comes a little out of nowhere, seems to have been added specifically to give the audience a reason to root against him.
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* AssPull: [[spoiler:After Agito becomes a tree, he is reborn from a fruit dangling from some said tree. While it makes thematic sense, this ability was not hinted at.]]
* ClicheStorm: Almost all the reviews, both good and bad, noted that the film's main flaw was that it stormed all the tropes and Aesops made famous by Creator/StudioGhibli and played them straight, making it look like a mix of ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'' and ''Anime/PrincessMononoke''.
* ClicheStorm: Almost all the reviews, both good and bad, noted that the film's main flaw was that it stormed all the tropes and Aesops made famous by Creator/StudioGhibli and played them straight, making it look like a mix of ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'' and ''Anime/PrincessMononoke''.
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* AssPull: [[spoiler:After Agito becomes a tree, he is reborn from a fruit dangling from some said tree.tree, clothes and all. While it makes thematic sense, this ability was not hinted at.]]
* ClicheStorm: Almost all the reviews, both good and bad, noted that thefilm's movie's main flaw was that it stormed all the tropes and Aesops made famous by Creator/StudioGhibli and played them straight, making it look like a an unoriginal mix of ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'' and ''Anime/PrincessMononoke''.''Anime/PrincessMononoke''. Additional flaws, like the movie's tiring pacing and lack of character development, only added to it.
* ClicheStorm: Almost all the reviews, both good and bad, noted that the
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* IntendedAudienceReaction: Toola and Schunack are the only characters from the past, and thus have much more in common with real life viewers than other characters. Their bafflement, sorrow, disgust etc. for the setting is likely to be what audience reaction would be. Agreement with the later, even though he is the BigBad, is intended so one can see how, in this hypothetical situation, he can be mistaken.
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* ClicheStorm: Almost all the reviews, both good and bad, noted that the film's main flaw was that it stormed all the tropes and Aesops made famous by Creator/StudioGhibli and played them straight, making it look like a mix of ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'' and ''Anime/PrincessMononoke''.
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* {{Narm}}: [[spoiler:The walking volcano.]]
* ScienceIsBad: While this seems to be the case, given what happened in the film's backstory, it is not really the case at all.
** [[spoiler:Genetic tampering led to plants destroying the world but this was due to one person's impatience in overstimulating the genes involved.]]
** [[spoiler: Science led to the creation of a volcanic superweapon but the danger of this weapon is acknowledged by its creator, which is why he put in so many safeguards to prevent its misuse.]]
** [[spoiler: Toola discarding her future necklace phone at the end is portrayed as a good thing because it is symbolic of her letting go of her past and embracing her new life. The fact that the necklace is high-tech is incidental.]]
** [[spoiler: The wise plants are indicated to be good, and they are the product of science too.]]
** Furthermore, any "technology is bad" message is undermined by the fact that Neutral City citizens are reliant on mining equipment and use old world supplies and Ragna can only survive in the desert thanks to water-extraction technology.
* ScienceIsBad: While this seems to be the case, given what happened in the film's backstory, it is not really the case at all.
** [[spoiler:Genetic tampering led to plants destroying the world but this was due to one person's impatience in overstimulating the genes involved.]]
** [[spoiler: Science led to the creation of a volcanic superweapon but the danger of this weapon is acknowledged by its creator, which is why he put in so many safeguards to prevent its misuse.]]
** [[spoiler: Toola discarding her future necklace phone at the end is portrayed as a good thing because it is symbolic of her letting go of her past and embracing her new life. The fact that the necklace is high-tech is incidental.]]
** [[spoiler: The wise plants are indicated to be good, and they are the product of science too.]]
** Furthermore, any "technology is bad" message is undermined by the fact that Neutral City citizens are reliant on mining equipment and use old world supplies and Ragna can only survive in the desert thanks to water-extraction technology.
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* {{Narm}}: [[spoiler:The The walking volcano.]]
* ScienceIsBad: While this seems to be the case, given what happenedvolcano, in the film's backstory, it is not really the case at all.
** [[spoiler:Genetic tampering led to plants destroying the world but this was due to one person's impatience in overstimulating the genes involved.]]
** [[spoiler: Science led to the creation of a volcanic superweapon but the danger of this weapon is acknowledged byall its creator, which is why he put in so many safeguards to prevent its misuse.]]
** [[spoiler: Toola discarding her future necklace phone at the end is portrayed as a good thing because it is symbolic of her letting go of her past and embracing her new life. The fact that the necklace is high-tech is incidental.]]
** [[spoiler: The wise plants are indicated to be good, and they are the product of science too.]]
** Furthermore, any "technology is bad" message is undermined by the fact that Neutral City citizens are reliant on mining equipment and use old world supplies and Ragna can only survive in the desert thanks to water-extraction technology.glorious implausibility.
* ScienceIsBad: While this seems to be the case, given what happened
** [[spoiler:Genetic tampering led to plants destroying the world but this was due to one person's impatience in overstimulating the genes involved.]]
** [[spoiler: Science led to the creation of a volcanic superweapon but the danger of this weapon is acknowledged by
** [[spoiler: Toola discarding her future necklace phone at the end is portrayed as a good thing because it is symbolic of her letting go of her past and embracing her new life. The fact that the necklace is high-tech is incidental.]]
** [[spoiler: The wise plants are indicated to be good, and they are the product of science too.]]
** Furthermore, any "technology is bad" message is undermined by the fact that Neutral City citizens are reliant on mining equipment and use old world supplies and Ragna can only survive in the desert thanks to water-extraction technology.
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** the ending piece "Ai no Melody" (lit. "Melody of Love") is a beautiful, glorious mix of awesome which manages to be both a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Crowning Music of Heartwarming]] ''and'' a TearJerker.
* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: Schunack talks of "wiping the slate clean" in regards to humanity and keeps a firm hold on Toola even after she has served her purpose with the Ragan. It is frightful to consider what he planned to do to her after he killed all the other humans.]]
* IntendedAudienceReaction: Toola and Schunack are the only characters from the past, and thus have much more in common with real life viewers than other characters. Their bafflement, sorrow, disgust etc. for the setting is likely to be what audience reaction would be. Agreement with the later, even though he is the BigBad, is intended so one can see how, in this hypothetical situation, he can be mistaken.
* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: Schunack talks of "wiping the slate clean" in regards to humanity and keeps a firm hold on Toola even after she has served her purpose with the Ragan. It is frightful to consider what he planned to do to her after he killed all the other humans.]]
* IntendedAudienceReaction: Toola and Schunack are the only characters from the past, and thus have much more in common with real life viewers than other characters. Their bafflement, sorrow, disgust etc. for the setting is likely to be what audience reaction would be. Agreement with the later, even though he is the BigBad, is intended so one can see how, in this hypothetical situation, he can be mistaken.
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** the The ending piece "Ai no Melody" (lit. "Melody of Love") is a beautiful, glorious mix of awesome which manages to be both a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Crowning Music of Heartwarming]] ''and'' a TearJerker.
* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: Schunack talks of "wiping the slate clean" in regards to humanity and keeps a firm hold on Toola even after she has served her purpose with the Ragan. It is frightful to consider what he planned to do to her after he killed all the other humans.]]
Was he planning on repopulating it?]]
* IntendedAudienceReaction: Toola and Schunack are the only characters from the past, and thus have much more in common with real life viewers than other characters. Their bafflement, sorrow, disgust etc. for the setting is likely to be what audience reaction would be. Agreement with the later, even though he is the BigBad, is intended so one can see how, in this hypothetical situation, he can be mistaken.
* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: Schunack talks of "wiping the slate clean" in regards to humanity and keeps a firm hold on Toola even after she has served her purpose with the Ragan. It is frightful to consider what he planned to do to her after he killed all the other humans.
* IntendedAudienceReaction: Toola and Schunack are the only characters from the past, and thus have much more in common with real life viewers than other characters. Their bafflement, sorrow, disgust etc. for the setting is likely to be what audience reaction would be. Agreement with the later, even though he is the BigBad, is intended so one can see how, in this hypothetical situation, he can be mistaken.
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* MoralEventHorizon: At first, Shunack may appear to be a WellIntentionedExtremist and some people could sympathize (or even agree) with his ideal of bringing back the old civilization and his desire to undo his mistakes, even though it means destroying the Forest. [[spoiler:Then he reveals that he intends to use E.S.T.O.C. to destroy Neutral City as well, simply out of spite. That decision shows that he has [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope jumped off the slippery slope]], no matter how much well-intentioned he used to be.]]
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* IntendedAudienceReaction: Toola and Schunack are the only characters from the past, and thus have much more in common with real life viewers than other characters. Their bafflement, sorrow, disgust etc. for the setting is likely to be the what audience reaction would be. Agreement with the later, even though he is the BigBad, is intended so one can see how, in this hypothetical situation, he can be mistaken.
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** [[spoiler: The again the wise plants are indicated to be good, and they are the product of science too.]]
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** [[spoiler: The again the wise plants are indicated to be good, and they are the product of science too.]]