History YMMV / NewGods

9th Sep '15 4:24:57 PM nombretomado
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* DorkAge: ''Return Of The New Gods'' - not for the series itself, which ranges between not-terrible to SoOkayItsAverage, but for the wholly unnecessary redesign of Orion to look more "superheroic". He trades in his helmet and Astro-Harness for something resembling [[BatmanAndTheOutsiders Geo-Force's costume]] with a big "O" on his chest.
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* DorkAge: ''Return Of The New Gods'' - not for the series itself, which ranges between not-terrible to SoOkayItsAverage, but for the wholly unnecessary redesign of Orion to look more "superheroic". He trades in his helmet and Astro-Harness for something resembling [[BatmanAndTheOutsiders [[ComicBook/BatmanAndTheOutsiders Geo-Force's costume]] with a big "O" on his chest.
14th Jul '15 8:34:53 PM kennydarmawan13
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** Darkseid, who became one of the DCU's most popular villains, and Mr. Miracle, whose book was the only one of the original ''New God'' books '''not''' to be canceled.
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** Darkseid, who became one of the DCU's most popular villains, and Mr. Miracle, whose book was the only one of the original ''New God'' books '''not''' to be canceled. Let's not forget he's the reason why {{Thanos}} existed [[spoiler:after the idea was changed from being based on another New God, Metron]]
11th Jun '15 10:06:39 PM A.vonZiggurat
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Anything not written by Kirby has at least some people who claim this ([[CriticalResearchFailure sometimes]] [[MainstreamObscurity justified]]). Compounding the problem is that Kirby's work in canon is often treated with BroadStrokes, at best. Starlin's ''Death Of The New Gods'' in particular is often lumped in with ''Countdown'' as being this to Comicbook/FinalCrisis.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Anything not written by Kirby has at least some people who claim this ([[CriticalResearchFailure sometimes]] [[MainstreamObscurity justified]]). Compounding the problem is that Kirby's work in canon is often treated with BroadStrokes, at best. Starlin's ''Death Of The New Gods'' in particular is often lumped in with ''Countdown'' as being this to Comicbook/FinalCrisis. About the only successor works that people seem to have some acceptance for is Walt Simonson and Grant Morrison's takes (who at least seemed to have their hearts in the right place even if they didn't totally get it).
17th May '15 9:46:04 AM moloch
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** In Final Crisis, when Granny Goodness's reduced to an evil spirit, who possesses a Green Lantern and creates centipede energy constructs. ** Her capturing Batman also counts, as far as Granny not only single-handedly defeating Batman but also her speech where she exclaims how completely and utterly screwed Batman is now that she has him prisoner. ** Most of Apokolips counts, but specifically Granny Goodness. Dear God, Granny Goodness. What to say about someone whose entire purpose is basically child abuse?
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** In Final Crisis, when Granny Goodness's reduced to an evil spirit, who possesses a Green Lantern and creates centipede energy constructs. ** Her capturing Batman also counts, as far as Granny not only single-handedly defeating Batman but also her speech where she exclaims how completely and utterly screwed Batman is now that she has him prisoner. ** Most of Apokolips counts, but specifically Granny Goodness. Dear God, Granny Goodness. What to say about someone whose entire purpose is basically child abuse?abuse? *** In Final Crisis, when Granny Goodness's reduced to an evil spirit, who possesses a Green Lantern and creates centipede energy constructs. *** Her capturing Batman also counts, as far as Granny not only single-handedly defeating Batman but also her speech where she exclaims how completely and utterly screwed Batman is now that she has him prisoner.
17th May '15 9:43:05 AM moloch
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* TheScrappy: The Newsboy Legion. Their antics and shenanigans were usually more annoying than funny and their stories were often the weakest of Kirby's Fourth World saga entries.
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* TheScrappy: TheScrappy: ** Takion, for reasons mentioned in CreatorsPet above. ** Grayven (though he technically debuted as a Franchise/GreenLantern villain). The "third son" of Darkseid, with none of the thematic basis of his brothers, and basically a 90s knock-off of his father with the same powers. ** The Newsboy Legion. Their antics and shenanigans were usually more annoying than funny and their stories were often the weakest of Kirby's Fourth World saga entries.
15th Nov '14 11:42:57 AM KingClark
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Trope misuse.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Darkseid, who became one of the DCU's most popular villains, and Mr. Miracle, whose book was the only one of the original ''New God'' books '''not''' to be canceled.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse: ** Darkseid, who became one of the DCU's most popular villains, and Mr. Miracle, whose book was the only one of the original ''New God'' books '''not''' to be canceled.

* MoralEventHorizon: Darkseid has crossed it many times. Granny Goodness is guaranteed to cross it at least once anytime she appears.
11th Oct '14 4:35:12 AM moloch
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* MainstreamObscurity: While the New Gods aren't exactly mainstream, many in both the American comic book industry and fanbase often refer to how influential the series was. Yet one gets the impression many of those people ''never actually read it'', especially since a full collected edition of Kirby's series was only published in 2007-2008. Notable examples include Jim Starlin (Anti-Life as depicted in his ''Cosmic Odyssey'' [[CriticalResearchFailure does not work that way!]]) and Creator/JohnByrne (Sleeze, the New God of... porn? WTF?!)
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* MainstreamObscurity: While the New Gods aren't exactly mainstream, many in both the American comic book industry and fanbase often refer to how influential the series was. Yet one gets the impression many of those people ''never actually read it'', especially since a full collected edition of Kirby's series was only published in 2007-2008. Notable examples include Jim Starlin (Anti-Life as depicted in his ''Cosmic Odyssey'' [[CriticalResearchFailure does not work that way!]]) and Creator/JohnByrne (Sleeze, (Sleez, the New God of... porn? WTF?!)
11th Oct '14 4:20:36 AM moloch
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* DorkAge: ''Return Of The New Gods'' - not for the series itself, which ranges between not-terrible to SoOkayItsAverage, but for the wholly unnecessary redesign of Orion to look more "superheroic". He trades in his helmet and Astro-Harness for something resembling [[BatmanAndTheOutsiders Geo-Force's costume]] with a big "O" on his chest.
6th Sep '14 8:35:59 PM WJTaylor4
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Just expanding the page
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* TheScrappy: The Newsboy Legion. Their antics and shenanigans were usually more annoying than funny and their stories were often the weakest of Kirby's Fourth World saga entries.
3rd Sep '14 2:13:01 AM biznizz
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* MainstreamObscurity: While the New Gods aren't exactly mainstream, many in both the American comic book industry and fanbase often refer to how influential the series was. Yet one gets the impression many of those people ''never actually read it'', especially since a full collected edition of Kirby's series was only published in 2007-2008. Notable examples include Jim Starlin (Anti-Life as depicted in his ''Cosmic Odyssey'' [[CriticalResearchFailure does not work that way!]]) and Creator/GrantMorrison (who ''admitted to this'' in his introduction to ''Jack Kirby's Fourth World Omnibus Vol. 1''!)
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* MainstreamObscurity: While the New Gods aren't exactly mainstream, many in both the American comic book industry and fanbase often refer to how influential the series was. Yet one gets the impression many of those people ''never actually read it'', especially since a full collected edition of Kirby's series was only published in 2007-2008. Notable examples include Jim Starlin (Anti-Life as depicted in his ''Cosmic Odyssey'' [[CriticalResearchFailure does not work that way!]]) and Creator/GrantMorrison (who ''admitted to this'' in his introduction to ''Jack Kirby's Fourth World Omnibus Vol. 1''!)Creator/JohnByrne (Sleeze, the New God of... porn? WTF?!)
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