History YMMV / MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E15TheSuperSpeedyCiderSqueezy6000

23rd Sep '17 1:19:46 PM ChaoticNovelist
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** This episode appears to have a "big business is evil; 'mom & pop' organizations are good" until you remember that Sweet Apple Acres is just one "branch" of the Apple Family business. They have farms all over the country in contrast to a company that consists of two brothers and their car.

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** This episode appears to have a "big business is evil; 'mom & pop' organizations are good" message until you remember that Sweet Apple Acres is just one "branch" "[[JustForPun branch]]" of the Apple Family business. They have farms all over the country in contrast to a company that consists of two brothers and their car.
1st Jan '17 2:38:24 PM Droemar
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** To say nothing of allowing Flim and Flam to use the Apples's ... apples. Why give something to someone so they can make YOU lose YOUR livelihood over it?

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** To say nothing of allowing Flim and Flam to use the Apples's ... apples. Why give something to someone so they can make YOU lose YOUR livelihood over it?it? Flim and Flam might have a cider-making machine, but they can't make cider without any apples. If they have to go off and buy their own, so much the better for the Apple family.
1st Jan '17 2:37:09 PM Droemar
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** To say nothing of allowing Flim and Flam to use the Apples's ... apples. Why give something to someone so they can make YOU lose YOUR livelihood over it?
5th Sep '16 6:03:58 PM Josef5678
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*** [[BrokenAesop Even if said outfit can deliver on their promises.]]
5th Sep '16 2:10:48 PM Dr.Giggles
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*** [[BrokenAesop Even if said outfit can deliver on their promises.]]



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22nd Sep '15 8:48:36 PM nombretomado
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* OlderThanTheyThink: A pair of "new" background ponies (One with a wrench for a cutie mark, and one whose cutie mark appears to be ''[[NorseMythology Thor's hammer]]'') have caught the interest of some fans and appear to be on their way to becoming {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s. They appeared as early as "Applebuck Season", but this might be the first time they've been shown with visible cutie marks.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: A pair of "new" background ponies (One with a wrench for a cutie mark, and one whose cutie mark appears to be ''[[NorseMythology ''[[Myth/NorseMythology Thor's hammer]]'') have caught the interest of some fans and appear to be on their way to becoming {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s. They appeared as early as "Applebuck Season", but this might be the first time they've been shown with visible cutie marks.
8th Sep '15 5:50:25 PM DrakeClawfang
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* IdiotPlot: If either the Apple Family or Flim and Flam had had even an ounce of business sense, the entire thing could've been worked out to the benefit of all involved in roughly five minutes. See WhatAnIdiot below for the specifics.

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* IdiotPlot: If either the Apple Family or Flim and Flam had had even an ounce of business sense, the entire thing could've been worked out to the benefit of all involved in roughly five minutes. See WhatAnIdiot below minutes.
** The Flim-Flam Brothers offer a 75%-25% split of the profits with the Apples, which they refuse. However, it's clear the Apples cannot keep up with the demand
for cider with the specifics.townsfolk, and they never have in several years prior. The Brothers' machine ''does'' produce cider at a much faster rate, and as Rainbow Dash points out, the quality of the Apple cider (which is an InformedAttribute since the proper cider the Brothers produce seems just fine) is irrelevant if most of the town doesn't get any. With how eager everypony is for cider, there was clearly plenty of profit to go around if the two sides worked out a fairer deal with the other.
** During the competition, the Flim-Flam Brothers agree to let "honorary" family members help out the Apples. Previously they were out-producing the Apples 3 barrels to 1. Then they asked to be able to double their manpower. While you couldn't expect that to increase production as much as it did, surely the Brothers could have realized their advantage would be lessened by this.
** The Apples also have a very poor business sense beyond the Flim-Flam Brothers. There seems to be no limit to how many mugs of cider a pony can buy at a time, meaning somepony like Pinkie Pie can talk off with at least a dozen mugs while other ponies wait all day to be told they're out. And considering, with the help of the rest of the Mane Six, they ''do'' manage to produce enough cider to match the Flim-Flam Brothers' machine, why did it never occur to them in the past to hire outside help; their cider production falls far short of the town's demand of it, and they ''know'' that because it happens every year.



* WhatAnIdiot:
** Flim-Flam Bros., did you really think it was a good idea to sell your badly made cider to the customers at the end of the show? Even worse, since they had some early barrels made from the best apples which probably ''would'' have been decent enough to serve. Depending on how you saw the townsponies' actions in the end, it might not matter if they used the decent batch ''or'' the crappy batch.
** ''Why'' did you agree to let the "honorary" family members help the Apples? You were out-producing the Apples 3 barrels to 1. Then they asked to be able to double their manpower. While you couldn't expect that to increase production as much as it did, surely you could have realized your advantage would be reduced to an uncomfortably small margin. [[PrideBeforeAFall Pride comes before the fall, you know]] and you still could have salvaged a deal if you could eke out a win with 9 ponies producing cider against 1 machine.
** The Flim Flam brothers getting competitive in the first place. The machine fills a niche that really needs filling. Had the brothers tried to work out a fairer deal with the Apple family, they could have landed themselves a neat profit.
*** By the same token, if the Apple family made any effort -- any effort ''at all'' -- to haggle with the brothers.
** If you take an uncharitable view of her HonorBeforeReason approach then Granny Smith betting the cider-selling rights to Ponyville and putting her livelihood in jeopardy. She hadn't even consulted Applejack and Big Mac on it, and the two of them looked like they had reservations over the agreement.
** The Apples not limiting consumption of the cider which may have a hand in quick shortages. They serve Pinkie Pie ''at least'' twenty mugs a day when other ponies, namely Rainbow Dash, don't even get to have one.
17th Jul '15 2:24:52 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* EvilIsSexy: In-universe example and inverted; Rarity seems to find the Flim Flam Brothers quite attractive [[spoiler: until she finds out what they're really like]].

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* EvilIsSexy: In-universe example and inverted; Rarity seems to find the Flim Flam Brothers quite attractive [[spoiler: until she finds out what they're really like]].like.



* TheWoobie: Thanks to given circumstances, Rainbow Dash comes off akin to the ''Trix Rabbit''. [[spoiler: Except at the end]], she kept getting denied just '''one''' mug of cider.

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* TheWoobie: Thanks to given circumstances, Rainbow Dash comes off akin to the ''Trix Rabbit''. [[spoiler: Except at the end]], end, she kept getting denied just '''one''' mug of cider.
25th Apr '15 7:51:47 AM KoopaKid17
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** The Apples not limiting consumption of the cider which may have a hand in quick shortages. They serve Pinkie Pie ''at least'' twenty mugs a day when other ponies, namely Rainbow Dash, don't even get to have one.
23rd Feb '15 1:32:37 PM ZeroWizard
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** If you take an uncharitable view of her HonourBeforeReason approach then Granny Smith betting the cider-selling rights to Ponyville and putting her livelihood in jeopardy. She hadn't even consulted Applejack and Big Mac on it, and the two of them looked like they had reservations over the agreement.

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** If you take an uncharitable view of her HonourBeforeReason HonorBeforeReason approach then Granny Smith betting the cider-selling rights to Ponyville and putting her livelihood in jeopardy. She hadn't even consulted Applejack and Big Mac on it, and the two of them looked like they had reservations over the agreement.
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