History YMMV / Moby

1st Jan '18 11:16:27 PM stuffedninja
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Depending on who you talk to, ''Hotel'' may or may not exist, and if it does usually it's just one of the two discs that exist. The majority of the Moby fanbase tends to agree that ''Animal Rights'' never happened, though. Moby had this to say on ''Animal Rights''' reception: "I got one piece of fan mail from Terence Trent D'Arby and I got a phone call from [[Music/GunsNRoses Axl Rose]] saying he was listening to ''Animal Rights'' on repeat. [[Music/{{U2}} Bono]] told me he loved ''Animal Rights''. So if you're gonna have three pieces of fan mail, that's the fan mail to get." Suffice to say, some people love that album, and Moby has since come to grips with its bad reputation, calling it "sort of a hidden record."

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* FanonDiscontinuity: FanonDiscontinuity:
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Depending on who you talk to, ''Hotel'' may or may not exist, and if it does usually it's just one of the two discs that exist. exist.
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The majority of the Moby fanbase tends to agree that ''Animal Rights'' never happened, though. though.
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Moby had this to say on ''Animal Rights''' reception: "I reception. Suffice to say, some people love that album, and Moby has since come to grips with its bad reputation, calling it "sort of a hidden record."
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got one piece of fan mail from Terence Trent D'Arby and I got a phone call from [[Music/GunsNRoses Axl Rose]] saying he was listening to ''Animal Rights'' on repeat. [[Music/{{U2}} Bono]] told me he loved ''Animal Rights''. So if you're gonna have three pieces of fan mail, that's the fan mail to get." Suffice to say, some people love that album, and Moby has since come to grips with its bad reputation, calling it "sort of a hidden record."



* NeverLiveItDown: To Music/{{Eminem}} fans, he's just the "nobody listens to techno" guy. Even Eminem himself eventually pulled a ''mea culpa'' on that one. Moby eventually just made it into a t-shirt.

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* NeverLiveItDown: To Music/{{Eminem}} fans, he's just the "nobody listens to techno" guy.guy from "Without Me". Even Eminem himself eventually pulled a ''mea culpa'' on that one. Moby eventually just made it into a t-shirt.T-shirt.



* NightmareFuel: At its ear-splitting peak tempo, "Thousand" can be incredibly nerve-wracking and anxiety-inducing. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dQi8gNvnvk This live performance]] makes it even scarier using abrasive strobe lights, uncomfortably fast {{Jump Cut}}s, and a chilling look of DissonantSerenity on Moby's face.

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* NightmareFuel: At its ear-splitting peak tempo, tempo[[note]][[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin 1000 BPM]][[/note]], "Thousand" can be incredibly nerve-wracking and anxiety-inducing. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dQi8gNvnvk This live performance]] makes it even scarier using abrasive strobe lights, uncomfortably fast {{Jump Cut}}s, and a chilling look of DissonantSerenity on Moby's face.



* SignatureSong: A few candidates for this one. If you're talking 90s rave-era Moby, then it's unmistakably "Go". After he radically shifted his career around the TurnOfTheMillennium, it's probably "Porcelain" or "Natural Blues".

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* SignatureSong: A few candidates for this one. one.
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If you're talking 90s rave-era Moby, then it's unmistakably "Go". "Go".
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After he radically shifted his career around the TurnOfTheMillennium, it's probably "Porcelain" or "Natural Blues".
19th Oct '17 2:58:02 PM bt8257
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* CriticalDissonance: ''18'' was considered a retread of ''Play,'' and ''Hotel'' was considered uninspired (to which Moby actually [[CreatorBacklash agreed]]). Both albums sold in the millions anyway.

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* CriticalDissonance: ''18'' was considered a retread of ''Play,'' ''Play'', and ''Hotel'' was considered uninspired (to which Moby actually [[CreatorBacklash agreed]]). Both albums sold in the millions anyway.



** "South Side," "Natural Blues" and "Dream About Me."

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** "South Side," Side", "Natural Blues" and "Dream About Me."Me".
22nd Sep '17 9:52:46 PM stuffedninja
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* NightmareFuel: At its ear-splitting peak tempo, "Thousand" can be incredibly nerve-wracking and anxiety-inducing. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dQi8gNvnvk This live performance]] makes it even scarier using abrasive strobe lights, uncomfortably fast {{Jump Cut}}s, and a chilling look of DissonantSerenity on Moby's face.
8th Aug '17 3:10:15 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Moby twice attempted to cross over to rock audiences, and it didn't work out. The failure of ''Animal Rights'' is well-documented, of course. And while ''Hotel'' hit #1 in some European countries and went on to sell a couple million, [[CriticalDissonance critics absolutely loathed it]], and even [[CreatorBacklash Moby himself]] was unsatisfied with how it turned out. That said, diehard Moby fans and new fans alike have found merit in the former's attempt at DarkerAndEdgier alt-rock, and the latter's 2000s update on the sounds of Music/TheCure and Music/NewOrder. He tried it again with ''These Systems are Failing'''s heavy electronic rock sound, which finally managed a generally positive reception.
7th Aug '17 1:45:20 AM bt8257
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* PopularWithFurries: The music video for "Beautiful," which depicts a swingers' party for people in animal costumes that [[GoneHorriblyWrong goes horrible wrong]].

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* PopularWithFurries: The music video for "Beautiful," "Beautiful", which depicts a swingers' party for people in animal costumes that [[GoneHorriblyWrong goes horrible horribly wrong]].



** One "sample" isn't even a sample at all, but is instead a full remix. In 1937, a singer named Vera Hall[[note]]who died one year before Moby was born[[/note]] recorded a song called "Trouble so Hard", which Moby remixed and retitled "Natural Blues" for his aforementioned ''Play'' album.
* SignatureSong: A few candidates for this one. If you're talking 90s rave-era Moby, then it's unmistakably "Go." After he radically shifted his career around the TurnOfTheMillennium, it's probably "Porcelain" or "Natural Blues."

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** One "sample" isn't even a sample at all, but is instead a full remix. In 1937, a singer named Vera Hall[[note]]who died one year before Moby was born[[/note]] recorded a song called "Trouble so So Hard", which Moby remixed and retitled "Natural Blues" for his aforementioned ''Play'' album.
* SignatureSong: A few candidates for this one. If you're talking 90s rave-era Moby, then it's unmistakably "Go." "Go". After he radically shifted his career around the TurnOfTheMillennium, it's probably "Porcelain" or "Natural Blues."Blues".



* TrueArtIsAngsty: Attempted on ''Animal Rights.'' Needless to say, Moby is not that guy.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Attempted on ''Animal Rights.'' Rights''. Needless to say, Moby is not that guy.
18th Jul '17 12:14:10 AM wyattte
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* CriticalDissonance: ''18'' was considered a retread of ''Play,'' and ''Hotel'' was considered uninspired (to which Moby actually [[CreatorBacklash agreed]]). Both albums sold in the millions anyway.



* FanonDiscontinuity: Depending on who you talk to, ''Hotel'' may or may not exist, and if it does usually it's just one of the two discs that exist. The majority of the Moby fanbase tends to agree that ''Animal Rights'' never happened, though. Moby had this to say on ''Animal Rights''' reception: "I got one piece of fan mail from [[TerenceTrentDarby Terence Trent D'Arby]] and I got a phone call from [[Music/GunsNRoses Axl Rose]] saying he was listening to ''Animal Rights'' on repeat. [[Music/{{U2}} Bono]] told me he loved ''Animal Rights''. So if you're gonna have three pieces of fan mail, that's the fan mail to get." Suffice to say, some people love that album, and Moby has since come to grips with its bad reputation, calling it "sort of a hidden record."
* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Critical reaction to ''18''.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Both times Moby attempted to cross over to rock audiences, it hasn't worked out. The failure of ''Animal Rights'' is well-documented, of course. And while ''Hotel'' hit #1 in some European countries and went on to sell a couple million, [[CriticalDissonance critics absolutely loathed it]], and even [[CreatorBacklash Moby himself]] was unsatisfied with how it turned out. That said, diehard Moby fans and new fans alike have found merit in the former's attempt at DarkerAndEdgier alt-rock, and the latter's 2000s update on the sounds of Music/TheCure and Music/NewOrder. He tried it again with ''These System's are Failing'''s heavy electronic rock sound, which finally managed a generally positive reception.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Depending on who you talk to, ''Hotel'' may or may not exist, and if it does usually it's just one of the two discs that exist. The majority of the Moby fanbase tends to agree that ''Animal Rights'' never happened, though. Moby had this to say on ''Animal Rights''' reception: "I got one piece of fan mail from [[TerenceTrentDarby Terence Trent D'Arby]] D'Arby and I got a phone call from [[Music/GunsNRoses Axl Rose]] saying he was listening to ''Animal Rights'' on repeat. [[Music/{{U2}} Bono]] told me he loved ''Animal Rights''. So if you're gonna have three pieces of fan mail, that's the fan mail to get." Suffice to say, some people love that album, and Moby has since come to grips with its bad reputation, calling it "sort of a hidden record."
* GrowingTheBeard: ''Everything Is Wrong'' was the first record where Moby really expanded his musical palette beyond his 90s rave music. ''Play'' mostly dropped the heavy techno and grew the beard even longer.
* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Critical reaction to ''18''.
''18''. [[CriticalDissonance It went to #1 in numerous countries anyway.]]
* LoveItOrHateIt: Both times Moby twice attempted to cross over to rock audiences, and it hasn't worked didn't work out. The failure of ''Animal Rights'' is well-documented, of course. And while ''Hotel'' hit #1 in some European countries and went on to sell a couple million, [[CriticalDissonance critics absolutely loathed it]], and even [[CreatorBacklash Moby himself]] was unsatisfied with how it turned out. That said, diehard Moby fans and new fans alike have found merit in the former's attempt at DarkerAndEdgier alt-rock, and the latter's 2000s update on the sounds of Music/TheCure and Music/NewOrder. He tried it again with ''These System's Systems are Failing'''s heavy electronic rock sound, which finally managed a generally positive reception.



* {{Narm}}: The reaction Moby inspired in the 90s when he tried to make heavy rock music.
* NeverLiveItDown: To Music/{{Eminem}} fans, he's just the "nobody listens to techno" guy. Even Eminem himself eventually pulled a ''mea culpa'' on that one. Moby eventually just made it into a t-shirt.



* VindicatedByHistory: ''Animal Rights'' has gotten warmer reception over the years, particularly with heavy music fans and listeners able to separate it from his more typical discography. That being said, it's still seen as a weaker effort, though not the utter disaster it was in 1997.

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* VindicatedByHistory: Minor example. ''Animal Rights'' has gotten warmer reception over the years, particularly with heavy music fans and listeners able to separate it from his more typical discography. That being said, it's still seen as a weaker effort, though not the utter disaster it was in 1997.
15th Apr '17 9:12:30 PM NWolfman
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* PopularAmongFurries: The music video for "Beautiful," which depicts a swingers' party for people in animal costumes that [[GoneHorriblyWrong goes horrible wrong]].

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* PopularAmongFurries: PopularWithFurries: The music video for "Beautiful," which depicts a swingers' party for people in animal costumes that [[GoneHorriblyWrong goes horrible wrong]].
15th Apr '17 9:12:13 PM NWolfman
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* PopularAmongFurries: The music video for "Beautiful," which depicts a swingers' party for people in animal costumes that [[GoneHorriblyWrong goes horrible wrong]].
15th Jan '17 6:22:42 AM tonagamu
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** Moby's voice is also surprisingly good on here as well. He's not technically a bad vocalist. He's just unaware that he's mostly a bass/baritone (vocal part) and it's when he wails in the tenor range and is clearly straining that he sounds frail.
15th Jan '17 6:20:33 AM tonagamu
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* VindicatedByHistory: ''Animal Rights'' has gotten warmer reception over the years, particularly with heavy music fans and listeners able to separate it from his more typical discography.

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* VindicatedByHistory: ''Animal Rights'' has gotten warmer reception over the years, particularly with heavy music fans and listeners able to separate it from his more typical discography. That being said, it's still seen as a weaker effort, though not the utter disaster it was in 1997.
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