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** And according to SD Gundam G Generation Wars, neither is the [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Shining Gundam]], or [[Anime/QueensBlade Jean in the Spiral Chaos games]] [[spoiler:when he transforms into a [[SuperMode Super Saiyan-wannabe]]]][[note]]This also works in a meta-way as Creator/HiroshiKamiya, Jean's voice actor, not only is a big fan of the ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' franchise, he also voiced [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Tieria Erde]] and [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE Zeheart Gallete]], the latter is, ironically, a CharClone.[[/note]]
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** And according to SD Gundam G Generation Wars, neither is the [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Shining Gundam]], or [[Anime/QueensBlade Jean in the Spiral Chaos games]] [[spoiler:when he transforms into a [[SuperMode Super Saiyan-wannabe]]]][[note]]This also works in a meta-way as Creator/HiroshiKamiya, Jean's voice actor, not only is a big fan of the ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' franchise, he also voiced [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Tieria Erde]] and [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE Zeheart Gallete]], the latter is, ironically, a CharClone.[[RecurringElement Char Clone]].[[/note]]
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* BetterThanCanon: The novel Beltorchika's Children. Reasons being Amuro having a more stable relationship that actually stands out in Gundam history. Seems Tomino seems to agree on this based on the afterword. When it was adapted into a manga many agree.
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* Squick: Fanservice on Quess? It's even worse in the novelization.
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* Squick: {{Squick}}: Fanservice on Quess? It's even worse in the novelization.
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* BetterThanCanon: The novel Beltorchika's Children. Seems Tomino seems to agree on this based on the afterword. When it was adapted into a manga many agree.
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* BetterThanCanon: The novel Beltorchika's Children. Reasons being Amuro having a more stable relationship that actually stands out in Gundam history. Seems Tomino seems to agree on this based on the afterword. When it was adapted into a manga many agree.
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*Squick: Fanservice on Quess? It's even worse in the novelization.
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*BetterThanCanon: The novel Beltorchika's Children. Seems Tomino seems to agree on this based on the afterword. When it was adapted into a manga many agree.
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**Char's last words. He suddenly brings up his sadness over Lalah at the last moment and somehow considers her her mother. Char even kissed her in the original series.
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* BrokenBase: The Hi-Nu Gundam's designs. Some prefer Izubuchi's original bulkier design which served as the basis for the SD design for the Super Robot Wars games that popularized the suit to begin with, and for the Ver.Ka model kit release in 2014. Others prefer the 2006's slimmer redesign, present in all games featuring the mobile suit post SRW Alpha 3, animated incarnations, most model kits and the Manga of the novel.
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* BrokenBase: The Hi-Nu Gundam's designs. Some prefer Izubuchi's original bulkier design which served as the basis for the SD design for the Super Robot Wars games that popularized the suit to begin with, and for the Ver.Ka model kit release in 2014. Others prefer the 2006's slimmer redesign, present in all games featuring the mobile suit post SRW Alpha 3, animated incarnations, most model kits and the Manga of the novel. Then you bring in the 2021 release of the Real Grade Hi-Nu model into the mix that combines elements of them both with the slimmer body and a more stylized version of the blue and white color scheme of the 2006 redesign with a bulkier and more aggressive looking backpack and propellant tanks more reminiscent of the original design.
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Typical for Gundam.
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** Char can't get a break with his preference in women thanks to saying "Lalah Sune could've been a mother to me" in his final battle with Amuro.
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* FountainOfExpies: The Nu and Hi-Nu are said to have inspired various later designs, such as the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Strike Freedom]], [[Anime/Gundam00AWakeningOfTheTrailblazer 00 Qan[T]]], and [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE AGE-FX]].
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* NeverLiveItDown: Gyunei's infamous speculation that Char is "[[NoYay into young girls]]" has dogged the character ever since, even if it's not coming from the most unbiased of sources (the fact that [[https://img.mghubcdn.com/file/imghub/kidou-senshi-gundam-gyakushuu-no-char-beltorchika-children/16/17.jpg Rezin reinforces the accusation]] in ''Beltorchika's Children'' does not help matters). Nanai is also subject to this thanks to [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Gundam/comments/9nfvou/tominos_mindset_when_creating_nanai_miguel/ a particularly notorious interview]] of Creator/YoshiyukiTomino in which he discusses certain CountryMatters pertaining to her in eyebrow-raising detail; anyone who's read the interview never quite sees Nanai the same way again.
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* NeverLiveItDown: NeverLiveItDown:
** Gyunei's infamous speculation that Char is"[[NoYay "[[{{Ephebophile}} into young girls]]" has dogged the character ever since, even if it's not coming from the most unbiased of sources (the since. In context, Gyunei's trying to defame Char [[CrazyJealousGuy to have Quess for himself]], and Char seems very unlikely to be attracted to her at all. The fact that [[https://img.mghubcdn.com/file/imghub/kidou-senshi-gundam-gyakushuu-no-char-beltorchika-children/16/17.jpg Rezin reinforces the accusation]] in ''Beltorchika's Children'' does not help matters). matters.
** Nanai is also subject to this thanks to [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Gundam/comments/9nfvou/tominos_mindset_when_creating_nanai_miguel/ a particularly notorious interview]] of Creator/YoshiyukiTomino in which he discusses certain CountryMatters pertaining to her in eyebrow-raising detail; anyone who's read the interview never quite sees Nanai the same way again.
** Gyunei's infamous speculation that Char is
** Nanai is also subject to this thanks to [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Gundam/comments/9nfvou/tominos_mindset_when_creating_nanai_miguel/ a particularly notorious interview]] of Creator/YoshiyukiTomino in which he discusses certain CountryMatters pertaining to her in eyebrow-raising detail; anyone who's read the interview never quite sees Nanai the same way again.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Gyunei's infamous speculation that Char is "[[{{Lolicon}} into young girls]]" has dogged the character ever since, even if it's not coming from the most unbiased of sources (the fact that [[https://img.mghubcdn.com/file/imghub/kidou-senshi-gundam-gyakushuu-no-char-beltorchika-children/16/17.jpg Rezin reinforces the accusation]] in ''Beltorchika's Children'' does not help matters). Nanai is also subject to this thanks to [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Gundam/comments/9nfvou/tominos_mindset_when_creating_nanai_miguel/ a particularly notorious interview]] of Creator/YoshiyukiTomino in which he discusses certain CountryMatters pertaining to her in eyebrow-raising detail; anyone who's read the interview never quite sees Nanai the same way again.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Gyunei's infamous speculation that Char is "[[{{Lolicon}} "[[NoYay into young girls]]" has dogged the character ever since, even if it's not coming from the most unbiased of sources (the fact that [[https://img.mghubcdn.com/file/imghub/kidou-senshi-gundam-gyakushuu-no-char-beltorchika-children/16/17.jpg Rezin reinforces the accusation]] in ''Beltorchika's Children'' does not help matters). Nanai is also subject to this thanks to [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Gundam/comments/9nfvou/tominos_mindset_when_creating_nanai_miguel/ a particularly notorious interview]] of Creator/YoshiyukiTomino in which he discusses certain CountryMatters pertaining to her in eyebrow-raising detail; anyone who's read the interview never quite sees Nanai the same way again.
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* RecursiveAdaptation: ''Beltorchika's Children.''
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* NeverLiveItDown: Gyunei's infamous speculation that Char is "[[{{Lolicon}} into young girls]]" has dogged the character ever since, even if it's not coming from the most unbiased of sources (the fact that [[https://img.mghubcdn.com/file/imghub/kidou-senshi-gundam-gyakushuu-no-char-beltorchika-children/16/17.jpg Rezin reinforces the accusation]] in ''Beltorchika's Children'' does not help matters). Nanai is also subject to this thanks to [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Gundam/comments/9nfvou/tominos_mindset_when_creating_nanai_miguel/ a particularly notorious interview]] of Creator/YoshiyukiTomino in which he discusses certain CountryMatters pertaining to her in eyebrow-raising detail; anyone who's read the interview never quite sees Nanai the same way again.
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* {{Fanon}}: Because Char's sub-commander/lover Nanai Miguel shares a surname with [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Usso Evin]]'s mother, fans assume that Usso is Char's grand/great-grandson. This one was actually {{Jossed}} by Tomino himself as a coincidence.
** Not to mention [[IdenticalGrandson they look almost identical]]. It makes you wonder what they were going for if not that.
*** The plan was originally for Uso to indeed ''be'' Char's descendant. But further into production, the writers decided against that and didn't want to lose all the work on character designs they'd accomplished.
*** The writers and Tomino had a conflict. The former believed Uso to be Char's descendant, the latter didn't.
** Not to mention [[IdenticalGrandson they look almost identical]]. It makes you wonder what they were going for if not that.
*** The plan was originally for Uso to indeed ''be'' Char's descendant. But further into production, the writers decided against that and didn't want to lose all the work on character designs they'd accomplished.
*** The writers and Tomino had a conflict. The former believed Uso to be Char's descendant, the latter didn't.
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* {{Fanon}}: Because Char's sub-commander/lover Nanai Miguel shares a surname with [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Usso Evin]]'s mother, Uso Ewin]]'s mother and [[IdenticalGrandson they look almost identical]], fans assume that Usso Uso is Char's grand/great-grandson. This one was actually {{Jossed}} by Tomino himself as Tomino, but sprung from a coincidence.
** Not to mention [[IdenticalGrandson they look almost identical]]. It makes you wonder what they were going for if not that.
***conflict between the writers. The plan was originally for Uso to indeed ''be'' Char's descendant. But descendant, but further into production, the writers decided against that and didn't want to lose all the work on character designs they'd accomplished.
*** The writers and Tomino had a conflict. The former believed Uso to be Char's descendant, the latter didn't.accomplished.
** Not to mention [[IdenticalGrandson they look almost identical]]. It makes you wonder what they were going for if not that.
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*** The writers and Tomino had a conflict. The former believed Uso to be Char's descendant, the latter didn't.
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* FountainOfExpies: The Nu and Hi-Nu are said to have inspired various later designs, most obvious of which is the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Strike Freedom]] and [[Anime/Gundam00AWakeningOfTheTrailblazer 00 Qan[T] ]].
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* FountainOfExpies: The Nu and Hi-Nu are said to have inspired various later designs, most obvious of which is such as the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Strike Freedom]] and Freedom]], [[Anime/Gundam00AWakeningOfTheTrailblazer 00 Qan[T] ]].Qan[T]]], and [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE AGE-FX]].
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** Char's time in the AEUG as Quattro is alluded to, but Kamille's fate, which in theory was a major turning point for Char's attitude to Earth, is never mentioned. And nobody from ZZ even makes a cameo.
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Beltorchika and Quess have the same voice actress. It was purely about Amuro and Beltorchika's children and not a voice acting issue.
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** Although she's not exactly hated, Chan isn't seen in a favorable light by some due to replacing Beltorchika as Amuro's love interest - the latter ''would'' have appeared in her place, but Tomino wasn't allowed to use her VA.
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** Although she's not exactly hated, Chan isn't seen in a favorable light by some due to replacing Beltorchika as Amuro's love interest - the latter ''would'' have appeared in her place, but Tomino wasn't allowed to use her VA.because the executives did not like the idea of Amuro having children with her.
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* FoeYay: The tension between Amuro and Char is at its highest here, with Tomino intentionally framing their violence with homoerotic undertones.
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** Gyunei gets this to a degree, as the fan theory that he was supposed to be Kamille is endlessly bandied about in fan circles despite the evidence being no more than "Kamille should have been at Char's side, not this new guy!"
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** Gyunei gets this to a degree, as the fan theory that he was supposed to be Kamille is endlessly bandied about in fan circles popular despite the no evidence being no more other than "Kamille should have been at Char's side, not this new guy!"the similarity of both characters' talents and hot-headedness.
