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* ParanoiaFuel: All over ParanoiaGambit: This troper has always felt that this was a [[RestrainedRevenge small revenge]] the place.surgeon had on Anderton (see ParanoiaFuel on the Main Page). This, and a couple of rotten sandwiches.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Jessica Capshaw (Spielberg's stepdaughter) has a small role as the Precrime pilot during the spider sequence; she went on to become a regular on ''Series/ThePractice'' (44 eps) and ''GreysAnatomy'' (140+ eps).
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Jessica Capshaw (Spielberg's stepdaughter) has a small role as the Precrime pilot during the spider sequence; she went on to become a regular on ''Series/ThePractice'' (44 eps) and ''GreysAnatomy'' ''Series/GreysAnatomy'' (140+ eps).
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* *[[spoiler: After Danny is murdered, the scene with John pointing his gun at Witwer's throat becomes almost painful, knowing that later in the movie, it will be the same gun used to muder him.]]
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* [[spoiler: *[[spoiler: After Danny is murdered, the scene with John pointing his gun at Witwer's throat becomes almost painful, knowing that later in the movie, it will be the same gun used to muder him.]]
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* IdiotPlot: There really is no good reason for Anderton to go after Leo Crow. Avoiding him until the time of his murder was over and returning to find out what happened later would have been a more sensible thing to do. Also, Lamar likely could have easily killed Anne Lively outside of Pre Crime's jurisdiction, making his need to try and fool the system unnecessary.
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* IdiotPlot: IdiotPlot:
** There really is no good reason for Anderton to go after Leo Crow. Avoiding him until the time of his murder was over and returning to find out what happened later would have been a more sensible thing to do. Also, Lamar likely could have easily killed Anne Lively outside of Pre Crime's jurisdiction, making his need to try and fool the system unnecessary.
** There really is no good reason for Anderton to go after Leo Crow. Avoiding him until the time of his murder was over and returning to find out what happened later would have been a more sensible thing to do. Also, Lamar likely could have easily killed Anne Lively outside of Pre Crime's jurisdiction, making his need to try and fool the system unnecessary.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Really the only problem with precrime is the fact that Director Burgess murdered Anne Lively instead of taking it the courts and leaving it in their hands if the woman should be given her daughter back. Outside of a complicated coverup to murder Lively and the questionable treatment of the precogs, precrime really ''does'' work - the problem with the system in the film is actually the DisproportionateRetribution of denying the suspects a trial and the possibility of parole.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: StrawmanHasAPoint:
** Really the only problem with precrime is the fact that Director Burgess murdered Anne Lively instead of taking it the courts and leaving it in their hands if the woman should be given her daughter back. Outside of a complicated coverup to murder Lively and the questionable treatment of the precogs, precrime really ''does'' work - the problem with the system in the film is actually the DisproportionateRetribution of denying the suspects a trial and the possibility of parole.
** Really the only problem with precrime is the fact that Director Burgess murdered Anne Lively instead of taking it the courts and leaving it in their hands if the woman should be given her daughter back. Outside of a complicated coverup to murder Lively and the questionable treatment of the precogs, precrime really ''does'' work - the problem with the system in the film is actually the DisproportionateRetribution of denying the suspects a trial and the possibility of parole.
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[HeavyRain Press X to]] [[spoiler: SEAN!!!!]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[HeavyRain [[VideoGame/HeavyRain Press X to]] [[spoiler: SEAN!!!!]]
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*** ...Aaand there's the CentralTheme of the [[Series/MinorityReport2015 2015]] [[RecycledTheSeries series]] - what steps should the government take to keep its citizens secure? What sacrifices are permissible? What is the suffering of three "[[TheyWouldCutYouUp genetic freaks]]" compared to the lives they could save if they were [[PoweredByAForsakenChild kept drugged and plugged into computers]]? What is [[LibertyOverProsperity forsaking privacy compared to a world without crime]]? Perhaps most importantly; once the government has that much power, ''who could stop it from doing anything else it wants?''
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*** ...Aaand there's the CentralTheme of the [[Series/MinorityReport2015 2015]] [[RecycledTheSeries series]] SequelSeries - what steps should the government take to keep its citizens secure? What sacrifices are permissible? What is the suffering of three "[[TheyWouldCutYouUp genetic freaks]]" compared to the lives they could save if they were [[PoweredByAForsakenChild kept drugged and plugged into computers]]? What is [[LibertyOverProsperity forsaking privacy compared to a world without crime]]? Perhaps most importantly; once the government has that much power, ''who could stop it from doing anything else it wants?''
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*** ...Aaand there's the MythArc of the [[Series/MinorityReport2015 2015]] [[RecycledTheSeries series]] - what steps should the government take to keep its citizens secure? What sacrifices are permissible? What is the suffering of three "[[TheyWouldCutYouUp genetic freaks]]" compared to the lives they could save if they were [[PoweredByAForsakenChild kept drugged and plugged into computers]]? What is [[LibertyOverProsperity forsaking privacy compared to a world without crime]]? Perhaps most importantly; once the government has that much power, ''who could stop it from doing anything else it wants?''
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*** ...Aaand there's the MythArc CentralTheme of the [[Series/MinorityReport2015 2015]] [[RecycledTheSeries series]] - what steps should the government take to keep its citizens secure? What sacrifices are permissible? What is the suffering of three "[[TheyWouldCutYouUp genetic freaks]]" compared to the lives they could save if they were [[PoweredByAForsakenChild kept drugged and plugged into computers]]? What is [[LibertyOverProsperity forsaking privacy compared to a world without crime]]? Perhaps most importantly; once the government has that much power, ''who could stop it from doing anything else it wants?''
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*** ...Aaand there's the MythArc of the [[Series/MinorityReport2015 2015]] [[RecycledTheSeries series]] - what steps should the government take to keep its citizens secure? What sacrifices are permissible? What is the suffering of three "[[TheyWouldCutYouUp genetic freaks]]" compared to the lives they could save if they were [[PoweredByAForsakenChild kept drugged and plugged into computers]]? What is [[LibertyOverProsperity forsaking privacy compared to a world without crime]]? Perhaps most importantly; once the government has that much power, ''who could stop it from doing anything else it wants?''
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Jessica Capshaw (Spielberg's stepdaughter) has a small role as the Precrime pilot during the spider sequence; she went on to become a regular on ''ThePractice'' (44 eps) and ''GreysAnatomy'' (140+ eps).
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Jessica Capshaw (Spielberg's stepdaughter) has a small role as the Precrime pilot during the spider sequence; she went on to become a regular on ''ThePractice'' ''Series/ThePractice'' (44 eps) and ''GreysAnatomy'' (140+ eps).
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: At a certain point, a television plays an episode of ''Series/{{Cops}}'', still on Fox (sister company of the film's distributor). The show had a ChannelHop to Spike TV on 2013.
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He just accidentally landed in the middle of someone\'s yoga class and went on his way. There was no need for the scene to be mentioned or alluded to again.
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** Also when [[{{Squick}} Dr. Iris Hineman kisses Anderson]] for no reason and no reaction from the latter.
** Also when [[{{Squick}} Dr. Iris Hineman kisses Anderson]] for no reason and no reaction from the latter.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Really the only problem with precrime is the fact that Director Burgess murdered Anne Lively instead of taking it the courts and leaving it in their hands if the woman should be given her daughter back. Outside of a complicated coverup to murder Lively and the questionable treatment of the precogs, precrime really ''does'' work.
** Precrime might work, but the sentencing procedure is still all ''wrong''. People are being jailed for murder without the possibility of parole, effectively having been given a FateWorseThanDeath, with the justification that because they ''did'' commit the crime in future, they ''are'' guilty of it. Despite the fact that by preventing them from ever having committed the crime, they haven't actually done ''anything'' illegal, yet still treated as if they ''had''. In fact, they claim that it's because YouCantFightFate, yet if that was true, the murders would still happen?! They fight fate ''all the time!'' All in all, the most you could convict someone of is either attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder, and that's disregarding the probably-numerous cases of people who had merely given little or even no thought to killing victims they may not have even met yet. This, however, is likely [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything a science-fictional extrapolation of current criminal investigation techniques;]] a few decades ago, who would have predicted that people would be convicted based on microscopic organic residue, or evidence reconstructed from fragments of years-buried human bone? The precogs are simply another unexpected source of evidence. In the initial "red ball" prevision arrest, Anderton shows up less than a ''second'' before the murder is committed. The commercials for Precrime show that this is ''not'' an isolated incident - the precops are used to yanking weapons from murderers' hands right in front of their victims. The reason Precrime is abandoned is not because it doesn't work, but because of the cost to innocent lives; the Minority Reports and the precogs themselves.
** Precrime might work, but the sentencing procedure is still all ''wrong''. People are being jailed for murder without the possibility of parole, effectively having been given a FateWorseThanDeath, with the justification that because they ''did'' commit the crime in future, they ''are'' guilty of it. Despite the fact that by preventing them from ever having committed the crime, they haven't actually done ''anything'' illegal, yet still treated as if they ''had''. In fact, they claim that it's because YouCantFightFate, yet if that was true, the murders would still happen?! They fight fate ''all the time!'' All in all, the most you could convict someone of is either attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder, and that's disregarding the probably-numerous cases of people who had merely given little or even no thought to killing victims they may not have even met yet. This, however, is likely [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything a science-fictional extrapolation of current criminal investigation techniques;]] a few decades ago, who would have predicted that people would be convicted based on microscopic organic residue, or evidence reconstructed from fragments of years-buried human bone? The precogs are simply another unexpected source of evidence. In the initial "red ball" prevision arrest, Anderton shows up less than a ''second'' before the murder is committed. The commercials for Precrime show that this is ''not'' an isolated incident - the precops are used to yanking weapons from murderers' hands right in front of their victims. The reason Precrime is abandoned is not because it doesn't work, but because of the cost to innocent lives; the Minority Reports and the precogs themselves.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Really the only problem with precrime is the fact that Director Burgess murdered Anne Lively instead of taking it the courts and leaving it in their hands if the woman should be given her daughter back. Outside of a complicated coverup to murder Lively and the questionable treatment of the precogs, precrime really ''does'' work.
** Precrime might work, butwork - the sentencing procedure problem with the system in the film is still all ''wrong''. People are being jailed for murder without actually the DisproportionateRetribution of denying the suspects a trial and the possibility of parole, effectively having been given a FateWorseThanDeath, with the justification that because they ''did'' commit the crime in future, they ''are'' guilty of it. Despite the fact that by preventing them from ever having committed the crime, they haven't actually done ''anything'' illegal, yet still treated as if they ''had''. In fact, they claim that it's because YouCantFightFate, yet if that was true, the murders would still happen?! They fight fate ''all the time!'' All in all, the most you could convict someone of is either attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder, and that's disregarding the probably-numerous cases of people who had merely given little or even no thought to killing victims they may not have even met yet. This, however, is likely [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything a science-fictional extrapolation of current criminal investigation techniques;]] a few decades ago, who would have predicted that people would be convicted based on microscopic organic residue, or evidence reconstructed from fragments of years-buried human bone? The precogs are simply another unexpected source of evidence. In the initial "red ball" prevision arrest, Anderton shows up less than a ''second'' before the murder is committed. The commercials for Precrime show that this is ''not'' an isolated incident - the precops are used to yanking weapons from murderers' hands right in front of their victims. The reason Precrime is abandoned is not because it doesn't work, but because of the cost to innocent lives; the Minority Reports and the precogs themselves.parole.
** Precrime might work, but
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Bach's "Jesu, Joy Of Man's Desiring" is used ''very'' well.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Bach's "Jesu, Bach\'s \"Jesu, Joy Of Man's Desiring" Man\'s Desiring\" is used ''very'' \'\'very\'\' well.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Ads in this film seem to know the targets' names, personal tastes, and the like. Come the age of selling users' personal information to third-party companies for advertising purposes...
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* HarsherInHindsight: Ads in this film seem to know the targets' targets\' names, personal tastes, and the like. Come the age of selling users' users\' personal information to third-party companies for advertising purposes...
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* IdiotPlot: There really is no good reason for Anderton to go after Leo Crow. Avoiding him until the time of his murder was over and returning to find out what happened later would have been a more sensible thing to do. Also, Lamar likely could have easily killed Anne Lively outside of Pre Crime's jurisdiction, making his need to try and fool the system unnecessary.
** Yeah, not going after Crow might have been more sensible - but we are speaking with the benefit of hindsight here. Caught up in the heat of the moment, Anderton's judgement is clouded by doubt, panic, curiosity and disbelief. As Witwer points out, Anderton ''won't'' just run and hide, "because he thinks he's innocent". Even when Agatha tries to get Anderton to turn away from his "destiny", Anderton won't, as he is so driven to find out what is happening.
* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:Lamar Burgess. He literally made a career out of faking out Precrime; first by disguising Anne Lively's murder as an "echo", then by disguising ''all three visions'' of Crow's death as brown balls by putting the plan in action while Anderton was at the office, ensuring that he would either be arrested immediately or run, so when Crow be found with the OrgyOfEvidence that could lead Anderton to murder it looked planned by Anderton. The only thing Burgess [[DidntSeeThatComing couldn't see coming]] was Anderton figuring out everything in time to tell it all to his wife, even if he wasn't free to act on the information himself.]]
** Yeah, not going after Crow might have been more sensible - but we are speaking with the benefit of hindsight here. Caught up in the heat of the moment, Anderton's judgement is clouded by doubt, panic, curiosity and disbelief. As Witwer points out, Anderton ''won't'' just run and hide, "because he thinks he's innocent". Even when Agatha tries to get Anderton to turn away from his "destiny", Anderton won't, as he is so driven to find out what is happening.
* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:Lamar Burgess. He literally made a career out of faking out Precrime; first by disguising Anne Lively's murder as an "echo", then by disguising ''all three visions'' of Crow's death as brown balls by putting the plan in action while Anderton was at the office, ensuring that he would either be arrested immediately or run, so when Crow be found with the OrgyOfEvidence that could lead Anderton to murder it looked planned by Anderton. The only thing Burgess [[DidntSeeThatComing couldn't see coming]] was Anderton figuring out everything in time to tell it all to his wife, even if he wasn't free to act on the information himself.]]
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* IdiotPlot: There really is no good reason for Anderton to go after Leo Crow. Avoiding him until the time of his murder was over and returning to find out what happened later would have been a more sensible thing to do. Also, Lamar likely could have easily killed Anne Lively outside of Pre Crime's Crime\'s jurisdiction, making his need to try and fool the system unnecessary.
** Yeah, not going after Crow might have been more sensible - but we are speaking with the benefit of hindsight here. Caught up in the heat of the moment,Anderton's Anderton\'s judgement is clouded by doubt, panic, curiosity and disbelief. As Witwer points out, Anderton ''won't'' \'\'won\'t\'\' just run and hide, "because \"because he thinks he's innocent". he\'s innocent\". Even when Agatha tries to get Anderton to turn away from his "destiny", \"destiny\", Anderton won't, won\'t, as he is so driven to find out what is happening.
* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:Lamar Burgess. He literally made a career out of faking out Precrime; first by disguising AnneLively's Lively\'s murder as an "echo", \"echo\", then by disguising ''all \'\'all three visions'' visions\'\' of Crow's Crow\'s death as brown balls by putting the plan in action while Anderton was at the office, ensuring that he would either be arrested immediately or run, so when Crow be found with the OrgyOfEvidence that could lead Anderton to murder it looked planned by Anderton. The only thing Burgess [[DidntSeeThatComing couldn't couldn\'t see coming]] was Anderton figuring out everything in time to tell it all to his wife, even if he wasn't wasn\'t free to act on the information himself.]]
** Yeah, not going after Crow might have been more sensible - but we are speaking with the benefit of hindsight here. Caught up in the heat of the moment,
* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:Lamar Burgess. He literally made a career out of faking out Precrime; first by disguising Anne
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** Sick sticks. Likely much more effective than a nightstick, but potentially much worse if they're aiming at you. And probably incredibly painful if you have an empty stomach when you get sticked.
** Sick sticks. Likely much more effective than a nightstick, but potentially much worse if they're aiming at you. And probably incredibly painful if you have an empty stomach when you get sticked.
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** The ''other'' \'\'other\'\' bottle of milk and sandwich.
** Sick sticks. Likely much more effective than a nightstick, but potentially much worse ifthey're they\'re aiming at you. And probably incredibly painful if you have an empty stomach when you get sticked.
** Sick sticks. Likely much more effective than a nightstick, but potentially much worse if
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* OneSceneWonder: Lots of them. The movie's got an incredibly solid supporting cast.
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* OneSceneWonder: Lots of them. The movie's movie\'s got an incredibly solid supporting cast.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The video game version has a different-looking, blond Anderton, as TomCruise's likeness couldn't be licensed.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Jessica Capshaw (Spielberg's stepdaughter) has a small role as the Precrime pilot during the spider sequence; she went on to become a regular on ''ThePractice'' (44 eps) and ''GreysAnatomy'' (140+ eps).
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Really the only problem with precrime is the fact that Director Burgess murdered Anne Lively instead of taking it the courts and leaving it in their hands if the woman should be given her daughter back. Outside of a complicated coverup to murder Lively and the questionable treatment of the precogs, precrime really ''does'' work.
** Precrime might work, but the sentencing procedure is still all ''wrong''. People are being jailed for murder without the possibility of parole, effectively having been given a FateWorseThanDeath, with the justification that because they ''did'' commit the crime in future, they ''are'' guilty of it. Despite the fact that by preventing them from ever having committed the crime, they haven't actually done ''anything'' illegal, yet still treated as if they ''had''. In fact, they claim that it's because YouCantFightFate, yet if that was true, the murders would still happen?! They fight fate ''all the time!'' All in all, the most you could convict someone of is either attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder, and that's disregarding the probably-numerous cases of people who had merely given little or even no thought to killing victims they may not have even met yet. This, however, is likely [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything a science-fictional extrapolation of current criminal investigation techniques;]] a few decades ago, who would have predicted that people would be convicted based on microscopic organic residue, or evidence reconstructed from fragments of years-buried human bone? The precogs are simply another unexpected source of evidence. In the initial "red ball" prevision arrest, Anderton shows up less than a ''second'' before the murder is committed. The commercials for Precrime show that this is ''not'' an isolated incident - the precops are used to yanking weapons from murderers' hands right in front of their victims. The reason Precrime is abandoned is not because it doesn't work, but because of the cost to innocent lives; the Minority Reports and the precogs themselves.
** There is also the issue of just how rare minority reports actually are. Iris states that a Pre-crime suspect might have a possible alternate future in which they do ''not'' commit their ascribed murder, but adds that this happens only "every once in a while," and as Lamar points out towards the end of the film, the comparative rarity of that -- even when combined with the PoweredByAForsakenChild treatment of the Precogs -- is simply not relevant when weighed against the much, much more common occurrence of soon-to-be murderers who have no alternate futures and so are guaranteed to successfully murder their victims if Pre-crime doesn't intervene first. So, really, which is the smarter reaction: restructuring Pre-crime so that the police simply don't pursue a murder suspect when and if they're shown to have a possible alternate future? Or, as they do in the film, shutting ''the entire system'' down just because of a relatively small number of false positives?
* TheWoobie: The three Precogs. They were born to FantasticDrug addicts and spent all of their lives having nightmares about murders. Then, people started to get wind of this and whisked them off and did unmentioned (but implied to be nasty) things to them. Then the Precog system was set up, which meant that they were forced to spend years and years lying in a drugged stupor in a pool, watching endless future murders. Oh, and the one time we hear about one of the parents trying to save her child from that, she's murdered. And said child is forced to watch her own mother's death and then watch as everyone ignores it.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Jessica Capshaw (Spielberg's stepdaughter) has a small role as the Precrime pilot during the spider sequence; she went on to become a regular on ''ThePractice'' (44 eps) and ''GreysAnatomy'' (140+ eps).
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Really the only problem with precrime is the fact that Director Burgess murdered Anne Lively instead of taking it the courts and leaving it in their hands if the woman should be given her daughter back. Outside of a complicated coverup to murder Lively and the questionable treatment of the precogs, precrime really ''does'' work.
** Precrime might work, but the sentencing procedure is still all ''wrong''. People are being jailed for murder without the possibility of parole, effectively having been given a FateWorseThanDeath, with the justification that because they ''did'' commit the crime in future, they ''are'' guilty of it. Despite the fact that by preventing them from ever having committed the crime, they haven't actually done ''anything'' illegal, yet still treated as if they ''had''. In fact, they claim that it's because YouCantFightFate, yet if that was true, the murders would still happen?! They fight fate ''all the time!'' All in all, the most you could convict someone of is either attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder, and that's disregarding the probably-numerous cases of people who had merely given little or even no thought to killing victims they may not have even met yet. This, however, is likely [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything a science-fictional extrapolation of current criminal investigation techniques;]] a few decades ago, who would have predicted that people would be convicted based on microscopic organic residue, or evidence reconstructed from fragments of years-buried human bone? The precogs are simply another unexpected source of evidence. In the initial "red ball" prevision arrest, Anderton shows up less than a ''second'' before the murder is committed. The commercials for Precrime show that this is ''not'' an isolated incident - the precops are used to yanking weapons from murderers' hands right in front of their victims. The reason Precrime is abandoned is not because it doesn't work, but because of the cost to innocent lives; the Minority Reports and the precogs themselves.
** There is also the issue of just how rare minority reports actually are. Iris states that a Pre-crime suspect might have a possible alternate future in which they do ''not'' commit their ascribed murder, but adds that this happens only "every once in a while," and as Lamar points out towards the end of the film, the comparative rarity of that -- even when combined with the PoweredByAForsakenChild treatment of the Precogs -- is simply not relevant when weighed against the much, much more common occurrence of soon-to-be murderers who have no alternate futures and so are guaranteed to successfully murder their victims if Pre-crime doesn't intervene first. So, really, which is the smarter reaction: restructuring Pre-crime so that the police simply don't pursue a murder suspect when and if they're shown to have a possible alternate future? Or, as they do in the film, shutting ''the entire system'' down just because of a relatively small number of false positives?
* TheWoobie: The three Precogs. They were born to FantasticDrug addicts and spent all of their lives having nightmares about murders. Then, people started to get wind of this and whisked them off and did unmentioned (but implied to be nasty) things to them. Then the Precog system was set up, which meant that they were forced to spend years and years lying in a drugged stupor in a pool, watching endless future murders. Oh, and the one time we hear about one of the parents trying to save her child from that, she's murdered. And said child is forced to watch her own mother's death and then watch as everyone ignores it.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The video game version has a different-looking, blond Anderton, as TomCruise's TomCruise\'s likeness couldn't couldn\'t be licensed.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Jessica Capshaw(Spielberg's (Spielberg\'s stepdaughter) has a small role as the Precrime pilot during the spider sequence; she went on to become a regular on ''ThePractice'' \'\'ThePractice\'\' (44 eps) and ''GreysAnatomy'' \'\'GreysAnatomy\'\' (140+ eps).
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Really the only problem with precrime is the fact that Director Burgess murdered Anne Lively instead of taking it the courts and leaving it in their hands if the woman should be given her daughter back. Outside of a complicated coverup to murder Lively and the questionable treatment of the precogs, precrime really''does'' \'\'does\'\' work.
** Precrime might work, but the sentencing procedure is still all''wrong''. \'\'wrong\'\'. People are being jailed for murder without the possibility of parole, effectively having been given a FateWorseThanDeath, with the justification that because they ''did'' \'\'did\'\' commit the crime in future, they ''are'' \'\'are\'\' guilty of it. Despite the fact that by preventing them from ever having committed the crime, they haven't haven\'t actually done ''anything'' \'\'anything\'\' illegal, yet still treated as if they ''had''. \'\'had\'\'. In fact, they claim that it's it\'s because YouCantFightFate, yet if that was true, the murders would still happen?! They fight fate ''all \'\'all the time!'' time!\'\' All in all, the most you could convict someone of is either attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder, and that's that\'s disregarding the probably-numerous cases of people who had merely given little or even no thought to killing victims they may not have even met yet. This, however, is likely [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything a science-fictional extrapolation of current criminal investigation techniques;]] a few decades ago, who would have predicted that people would be convicted based on microscopic organic residue, or evidence reconstructed from fragments of years-buried human bone? The precogs are simply another unexpected source of evidence. In the initial "red ball" \"red ball\" prevision arrest, Anderton shows up less than a ''second'' \'\'second\'\' before the murder is committed. The commercials for Precrime show that this is ''not'' \'\'not\'\' an isolated incident - the precops are used to yanking weapons from murderers' murderers\' hands right in front of their victims. The reason Precrime is abandoned is not because it doesn't doesn\'t work, but because of the cost to innocent lives; the Minority Reports and the precogs themselves.
** There is also the issue of just how rare minority reports actually are. Iris states that a Pre-crime suspect might have a possible alternate future in which they do''not'' \'\'not\'\' commit their ascribed murder, but adds that this happens only "every \"every once in a while," while,\" and as Lamar points out towards the end of the film, the comparative rarity of that -- even when combined with the PoweredByAForsakenChild treatment of the Precogs -- is simply not relevant when weighed against the much, much more common occurrence of soon-to-be murderers who have no alternate futures and so are guaranteed to successfully murder their victims if Pre-crime doesn't doesn\'t intervene first. So, really, which is the smarter reaction: restructuring Pre-crime so that the police simply don't don\'t pursue a murder suspect when and if they're they\'re shown to have a possible alternate future? Or, as they do in the film, shutting ''the \'\'the entire system'' system\'\' down just because of a relatively small number of false positives?
**The system was not taking down just because of the Minority Reports, which the people in power \'\'hid\'\' despite it being rare. It was taking down because the founder murder someone using his knowledge of the system and then went against the precogs\' prediction. Burgess in a moment of rage was supposed to kill Anderson. Anderson himself points out if he kills him it proves without a doubt that the system works, even if Burgess goes down for two murders. Instead, Burgess, who knew his own destine, chose to kill himself, proving that the system wasn\'t flawless as everyone hyped it to be. On top of that, the general public didn\'t know how the precogs were being treated. In a segment of the movie, you see a tour guide telling a group of children that the precogs lived in fancy apartments with cable, not the half-coma state they were force into so they can predicts murders against their will. That alone goes against several human rights and would probably gotten the system shutdown because of public outcry and civil suites. The system was brought down by a combination of corruption, hiding information, and the morally question practice of keeping three teenagers prisoner and trapping them in an eternal nightmare.
* TheWoobie: The three Precogs. They were born to FantasticDrug addicts and spent all of their lives having nightmares about murders. Then, people started to get wind of this and whisked them off and did unmentioned (but implied to be nasty) things to them. Then the Precog system was set up, which meant that they were forced to spend years and years lying in a drugged stupor in a pool, watching endless future murders. Oh, and the one time we hear about one of the parents trying to save her child from that,she's she\'s murdered. And said child is forced to watch her own mother's mother\'s death and then watch as everyone ignores it.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Really the only problem with precrime is the fact that Director Burgess murdered Anne Lively instead of taking it the courts and leaving it in their hands if the woman should be given her daughter back. Outside of a complicated coverup to murder Lively and the questionable treatment of the precogs, precrime really
** Precrime might work, but the sentencing procedure is still all
** There is also the issue of just how rare minority reports actually are. Iris states that a Pre-crime suspect might have a possible alternate future in which they do
**The system was not taking down just because of the Minority Reports, which the people in power \'\'hid\'\' despite it being rare. It was taking down because the founder murder someone using his knowledge of the system and then went against the precogs\' prediction. Burgess in a moment of rage was supposed to kill Anderson. Anderson himself points out if he kills him it proves without a doubt that the system works, even if Burgess goes down for two murders. Instead, Burgess, who knew his own destine, chose to kill himself, proving that the system wasn\'t flawless as everyone hyped it to be. On top of that, the general public didn\'t know how the precogs were being treated. In a segment of the movie, you see a tour guide telling a group of children that the precogs lived in fancy apartments with cable, not the half-coma state they were force into so they can predicts murders against their will. That alone goes against several human rights and would probably gotten the system shutdown because of public outcry and civil suites. The system was brought down by a combination of corruption, hiding information, and the morally question practice of keeping three teenagers prisoner and trapping them in an eternal nightmare.
* TheWoobie: The three Precogs. They were born to FantasticDrug addicts and spent all of their lives having nightmares about murders. Then, people started to get wind of this and whisked them off and did unmentioned (but implied to be nasty) things to them. Then the Precog system was set up, which meant that they were forced to spend years and years lying in a drugged stupor in a pool, watching endless future murders. Oh, and the one time we hear about one of the parents trying to save her child from that,
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** Precrime might work, but the sentencing procedure is still all ''wrong''. People are being jailed for murder without the possibility of parole, effectively having been given a FateWorseThanDeath, with the justification that because they ''did'' commit the crime in future, they ''are'' guilty of it. Despite the fact that by preventing them from ever having committed the crime, they haven't actually done ''anything'' illegal, yet still treated as if they ''had''. In fact, they claim that it's because YouCantFightFate, yet if that was true, the murders would still happen?! They fight fate ''all the time!'' All in all, the most you could convict someone of is either attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder, and that's disregarding the probably-numerous cases of people who had merely given little or even no thought to killing victims they may not have even met yet. This, however, is likely [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything a science-fictional extrapolation of current criminal investigation techniques;]] a few decades ago, who would have predicted that people would be convicted based on microscopic organic residue, or evidence reconstructed from fragments of years-buried human bone? The precogs are simply another unexpected source of evidence. In the "brown ball" prevision arrest, Anderton shows up less than a ''second'' before the murder is committed. The commercials for Precrime show that this is ''not'' an isolated incident - the precops are used to yanking weapons from murderers' hands right in front of their victims. The reason Precrime is abandoned is not because it doesn't work, but because of the cost to innocent lives; the Minority Reports and the precogs themselves.
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** Precrime might work, but the sentencing procedure is still all ''wrong''. People are being jailed for murder without the possibility of parole, effectively having been given a FateWorseThanDeath, with the justification that because they ''did'' commit the crime in future, they ''are'' guilty of it. Despite the fact that by preventing them from ever having committed the crime, they haven't actually done ''anything'' illegal, yet still treated as if they ''had''. In fact, they claim that it's because YouCantFightFate, yet if that was true, the murders would still happen?! They fight fate ''all the time!'' All in all, the most you could convict someone of is either attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder, and that's disregarding the probably-numerous cases of people who had merely given little or even no thought to killing victims they may not have even met yet. This, however, is likely [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything a science-fictional extrapolation of current criminal investigation techniques;]] a few decades ago, who would have predicted that people would be convicted based on microscopic organic residue, or evidence reconstructed from fragments of years-buried human bone? The precogs are simply another unexpected source of evidence. In the "brown initial "red ball" prevision arrest, Anderton shows up less than a ''second'' before the murder is committed. The commercials for Precrime show that this is ''not'' an isolated incident - the precops are used to yanking weapons from murderers' hands right in front of their victims. The reason Precrime is abandoned is not because it doesn't work, but because of the cost to innocent lives; the Minority Reports and the precogs themselves.
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Example Indentation * dystopian.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames:
** The video game version has a different-looking, blond Anderton, as TomCruise's likeness couldn't be licensed.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames:
**TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The video game version has a different-looking, blond Anderton, as TomCruise's likeness couldn't be licensed.
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: Life sentences without parole handed out -without trials- to people who technically didn't commit a crime, based on the hallucinations of brain-damaged people floating in pools of milk? [[{{WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment}} The Supreme Court is going to love it]].
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Actually, the film *does* treat John as the correct one, both before and after his disillusionment with Pre-crime.
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** Precrime might work, but the sentencing procedure is still all ''wrong''. People are being jailed for murder without the possibility of parole, effectively having been given a FateWorseThanDeath, with the justification that because they ''did'' commit the crime in future, they ''are'' guilty of it. Despite the fact that by preventing them from ever having committed the crime, they haven't actually done ''anything'' illegal, yet still treated as if they ''had''. In fact, they claim that it's because YouCantFightFate, yet if that was true, the murders would still happen?! They fight fate ''all the time!'' All in all, the most you could convict someone of is either attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder, and that's disregarding the probably-numerous cases of people who had merely given little or even no thought to killing victims they may not have even met yet.
*** It's a science-fictional extrapolation of current criminal investigation techniques; a few decades ago, who would have predicted that people would be convicted based on microscopic organic residue, or evidence reconstructed from fragments of years-buried human bone? The precogs are simply another unexpected source of evidence. In the "brown ball" prevision arrest, Anderton shows up less than a ''second'' before the murder is committed. The commercials for Precrime show that this is ''not'' an isolated incident - the precops are used to yanking weapons from murderers' hands right in front of their victims. Changing the future does not change the intent behind people's actions. The reason Precrime is abandoned is not because it doesn't work, but because of the cost to innocent lives; the Minority Reports and the precogs themselves.
** The heart of the film runs on this as illustrated by the arguments by John (for it) and Danny (against it) in the first act, and that the film doesn't present either person as completely right or wrong.
*** It's a science-fictional extrapolation of current criminal investigation techniques; a few decades ago, who would have predicted that people would be convicted based on microscopic organic residue, or evidence reconstructed from fragments of years-buried human bone? The precogs are simply another unexpected source of evidence. In the "brown ball" prevision arrest, Anderton shows up less than a ''second'' before the murder is committed. The commercials for Precrime show that this is ''not'' an isolated incident - the precops are used to yanking weapons from murderers' hands right in front of their victims. Changing the future does not change the intent behind people's actions. The reason Precrime is abandoned is not because it doesn't work, but because of the cost to innocent lives; the Minority Reports and the precogs themselves.
** The heart of the film runs on this as illustrated by the arguments by John (for it) and Danny (against it) in the first act, and that the film doesn't present either person as completely right or wrong.
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** Precrime might work, but the sentencing procedure is still all ''wrong''. People are being jailed for murder without the possibility of parole, effectively having been given a FateWorseThanDeath, with the justification that because they ''did'' commit the crime in future, they ''are'' guilty of it. Despite the fact that by preventing them from ever having committed the crime, they haven't actually done ''anything'' illegal, yet still treated as if they ''had''. In fact, they claim that it's because YouCantFightFate, yet if that was true, the murders would still happen?! They fight fate ''all the time!'' All in all, the most you could convict someone of is either attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder, and that's disregarding the probably-numerous cases of people who had merely given little or even no thought to killing victims they may not have even met yet.
*** It'syet. This, however, is likely [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything a science-fictional extrapolation of current criminal investigation techniques; techniques;]] a few decades ago, who would have predicted that people would be convicted based on microscopic organic residue, or evidence reconstructed from fragments of years-buried human bone? The precogs are simply another unexpected source of evidence. In the "brown ball" prevision arrest, Anderton shows up less than a ''second'' before the murder is committed. The commercials for Precrime show that this is ''not'' an isolated incident - the precops are used to yanking weapons from murderers' hands right in front of their victims. Changing the future does not change the intent behind people's actions. The reason Precrime is abandoned is not because it doesn't work, but because of the cost to innocent lives; the Minority Reports and the precogs themselves.
**The heart There is also the issue of just how rare minority reports actually are. Iris states that a Pre-crime suspect might have a possible alternate future in which they do ''not'' commit their ascribed murder, but adds that this happens only "every once in a while," and as Lamar points out towards the end of the film runs on this as illustrated by film, the arguments by John (for it) and Danny (against it) in the first act, and comparative rarity of that -- even when combined with the film PoweredByAForsakenChild treatment of the Precogs -- is simply not relevant when weighed against the much, much more common occurrence of soon-to-be murderers who have no alternate futures and so are guaranteed to successfully murder their victims if Pre-crime doesn't present either person intervene first. So, really, which is the smarter reaction: restructuring Pre-crime so that the police simply don't pursue a murder suspect when and if they're shown to have a possible alternate future? Or, as completely right or wrong.they do in the film, shutting ''the entire system'' down just because of a relatively small number of false positives?
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Jessica Capshaw (Spielberg's stepdaughter) has a small role as the Precrime pilot during the spider sequence; she went on to become a regular on ''ThePractice'' (44 eps) and ''GreysAnatomy'' (140+ eps).
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** The heart of the film runs on this as illustrated by the arguments by John (for it) and Danny (against it) in the first act, and that the film doesn't present either person as completely right or wrong.
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* TearJerker: What that married guy goes through during the opening sequence when he figures out his wife is having an affair. The audience just sees his heart getting shredded right there in front of him, and the audience gets a good idea why the husband is ''this close'' to killing someone...
** The horrified look on the wife's face, not just nearly getting killed but realizing her husband's being taken away forever...
** The fate of the halo-ed "killers": put in suspended animation forever, no appeal, no parole.
** Agatha, tearfully replaying the day Anderton had his son taken away from him, and then tapping into her Precog powers to see him ''maybe'' growing up into a life he might never get to live...
** Anderton [[spoiler:never finds out what happened to his son.]]
** The horrified look on the wife's face, not just nearly getting killed but realizing her husband's being taken away forever...
** The fate of the halo-ed "killers": put in suspended animation forever, no appeal, no parole.
** Agatha, tearfully replaying the day Anderton had his son taken away from him, and then tapping into her Precog powers to see him ''maybe'' growing up into a life he might never get to live...
** Anderton [[spoiler:never finds out what happened to his son.]]
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* IdiotPlot: There really is no good reason for Anderton to go after Leo Crow. Avoiding him until the time of his murder was over and returning to find out what happened later would have been a more sensibile thing to do. Also, Lamar likely could have easily killed Anne Lively outside of Pre Crime's jurisdiction, making his need to try and fool the system unnecessary.
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* IdiotPlot: There really is no good reason for Anderton to go after Leo Crow. Avoiding him until the time of his murder was over and returning to find out what happened later would have been a more sensibile sensible thing to do. Also, Lamar likely could have easily killed Anne Lively outside of Pre Crime's jurisdiction, making his need to try and fool the system unnecessary.unnecessary.
** Yeah, not going after Crow might have been more sensible - but we are speaking with the benefit of hindsight here. Caught up in the heat of the moment, Anderton's judgement is clouded by doubt, panic, curiosity and disbelief. As Witwer points out, Anderton ''won't'' just run and hide, "because he thinks he's innocent". Even when Agatha tries to get Anderton to turn away from his "destiny", Anderton won't, as he is so driven to find out what is happening.
** Yeah, not going after Crow might have been more sensible - but we are speaking with the benefit of hindsight here. Caught up in the heat of the moment, Anderton's judgement is clouded by doubt, panic, curiosity and disbelief. As Witwer points out, Anderton ''won't'' just run and hide, "because he thinks he's innocent". Even when Agatha tries to get Anderton to turn away from his "destiny", Anderton won't, as he is so driven to find out what is happening.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Ads in this film seem to know the targets' names, personal tastes, and the like. Come the age of selling users' personal information to third-party companies for advertising purposes...