History YMMV / MightyNo9

4th Apr '18 4:55:08 PM ViperAcidZX
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* CriticalBacklash: Despite many critics condemning the game with low review scores, some players don't believe that the game is as bad is they are making it out to be and the poor critical reception likely stems from using the Kickstarter controversies to put the game down or from those not wanting to give the game the benefit of the doubt.



** One slowly seems to be developing between it and ''VideoGame/AzureStrikerGunvolt'', its fellow SpiritualSuccessor. When the first game of the latter came out, it was seen as SoOkayItsAverage by many ''Mega Man'' fans who were putting their hopes into ''Mighty No. 9'', but after ''Mighty No. 9'' was berated and the second ''Azure Striker: Gunvolt'' game was released but months later as a much-improved sequel, plenty of disgruntled fans jumped ship and started calling ''Gunvolt'' the true successor to ''Mega Man'', which didn't make many of ''Mighty No. 9's'' remaining fans happy. A similar thing also happened with ''VideoGame/{{Rosenkreuzstilette}}'' which started as a very niche indie game before the release at Steam and was at first criticized for staying too much to the original formula, but the faithfulness was considered a good thing when compared with ''Mighty No. 9''.

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** One slowly seems to be developing between it and This crept onto ''VideoGame/AzureStrikerGunvolt'', its fellow SpiritualSuccessor. When the first game of the latter came out, it was seen as SoOkayItsAverage by many ''Mega Man'' fans who were putting their hopes into ''Mighty No. 9'', but after ''Mighty No. 9'' was berated and the second ''Azure Striker: Striker Gunvolt'' game was released but months later as a much-improved sequel, plenty of disgruntled fans jumped ship and started calling ''Gunvolt'' the true successor to ''Mega Man'', which didn't make many of ''Mighty No. 9's'' remaining fans happy. A similar thing also happened with ''VideoGame/{{Rosenkreuzstilette}}'' which started as a very niche indie game before the release at Steam and was at first criticized for staying too much to the original formula, but the faithfulness was considered a good thing when compared with ''Mighty No. 9''.



** FOUR HOUR WALL OF SHAME [[labelnote:Explanation]]The credits for the game are [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znfU6zXvVcQ an absurd four hours long,]] prompting snarky responses from the fanbase. This was caused by the large amount of Kickstarter backers, as well as the game listing "A Generous Backer" hundreds of times instead of condensing it to a single listing.[[/labelnote]]

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** FOUR HOUR WALL OF SHAME [[labelnote:Explanation]]The credits for the game are [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znfU6zXvVcQ an absurd four hours long,]] prompting snarky responses from the fanbase.detractors. This was caused by the large amount of Kickstarter backers, as well as the game listing "A Generous Backer" hundreds of times instead of condensing it to a single listing.[[/labelnote]]


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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Beck's inclusion in ''Mighty Gunvolt Burst'' may have redeemed him for some due changing his gameplay style to something more similar to classic ''Mega Man''. Call later got her spotlight in ''Mighty Gunvolt Burst'' which gave her more freedom as a playable character [[spoiler:and growing out of her robotic monotone personality at the end of her campaign]] that also made her more likeable.
16th Mar '18 11:34:10 AM keyblade333
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** The storyline involves a CorruptCorporateExecutive [[spoiler:unleashing and then losing control of a robot with the potential to overtake and consume the entire world]]? Are we talking about this game, or ''VideoGame/HorizonZeroDawn''?
12th Mar '18 6:30:03 PM AnotherDuck
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* EndingFatigue: Good grief, the ''credits''. A ''four-hour monstrosity'' that spends about 99% of that time ''thanking every last person who funded the game''. Having a wall of names is one thing -- but it gets ridiculous when kick-starters were permitted to remain '''anonymous''', thus you're often greeted by columns of "a generous backer, a generous backer, a generous backer," now rendering the idea of "credits" utterly meaningless. Of course, all complaining is generally rendered moot since they can be skipped with no consequence (even taking you to the post-credits scene rather than skipping that too), but people who wanted to see their own names in the credits are understandably annoyed by having to wait and keep an eye out for so long. It gets even worse when some reported that their names didn't get into the credits despite the agreements to do just that. However, it's possible to skip to specific sections of the backer credits by entering one's Might Number, which was given to every contributor even if they didn't meet the minimum goal for inclusion.
13th Feb '18 4:26:19 PM DoctorCooper
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** Dr. White has some hatred directed toward him for an egotistical attitude, [[spoiler:being part of the reason for the events of the game starting]], and especially his treatment of [[spoiler:Ray]] and [[spoiler:his ''own father'', Dr. Blackwell]], both of whom he callously abandoned.
12th Feb '18 3:34:26 AM OlfinBedwere
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** The storyline involves a CorruptCorporateExecutive [[spoiler:unleashing and then losing control of a robot with the potential to overtake and consume the entire world]]? Are we talking about this game, or ''VideoGame/HorizonZeroDawn''?
11th Feb '18 9:13:20 AM Anddrix
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** Call "F" winning the design vote for Call. Some were happy or at least content with the familiar, more Roll-like design, while others lambasted the design specifically because of that point and/or simply wanting either "E" or "H" to win. Given that "F" beat "E" by a narrow margin of 43% to 41%, some wanted a third "tiebreaker" vote.
*** This is referenced in her ''Mighty Gunvolt Burst'' appearance where, with a set of costume switching items, you can turn Call F into Call A, E, ''or'' H. Yes, you can play as ''your'' favorite version of Call.
** The fact that Inafune was already working on another ''Franchise/MegaMan''-related SpiritualSuccessor (''VideoGame/RedAsh: The Indelible Legend'', which is based on ''VideoGame/MegaManLegends''). Fans of those games were cool with this and supported it on Kickstarter, while others felt that it was too soon to work on another series when ''Mighty No. 9'' itself hadn't been released yet.



** Music/MegaRan's rap song for the credits of ''Mighty No. 9'' is [[http://www.mightyno9.com/en/20150630 striking a nerve with some fans.]] While there are significant numbers who like or at least appreciate it, there seems to be just as many who are turned off that the game has any rap in it at all or just don't like Mega Ran's music.
11th Feb '18 7:03:35 AM Anddrix
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* WereStillRelevantDammit: Some of the game's humor comes from internet memes, such as Cryosphere's infamous "pew pew pew", and Aviator, in Call's level, tells her that she'll get mileage [[{{VideoGame/Genji}} out of attacking the enemy's weakpoint for massive damage]]. Particularly bad with the latter, given that the meme was roughly 10 years old by the time ''Mighty No. 9'' was released, and even roughly 7 years old at the time of the initial Kickstarter funding, for that matter, so the devs had more than enough time to see the meme live out its lifespan before the game was even an idea.
10th Feb '18 6:40:42 AM OlfinBedwere
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** Cryosphere is the least well-liked among the Mighty Numbers, due to her frustrating pattern, [[MostAnnoyingSound repetitive sound clips]], and annoying voice.

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** Cryosphere is the least well-liked among the Mighty Numbers, due to her frustrating pattern, [[MostAnnoyingSound repetitive sound clips]], and annoying voice. Her habit of constantly making ice-related puns has also drawn comparisons to the way Mr. Freeze was depicted in ''Film/BatmanAndRobin''.



** Dr. Sanda is quite disliked for a similarly [[RuleOfThree annoying voice]] and [[LargeHam hamming]] it up every now and then. There's also the fact that his role consists mostly of overreacting to stuff that happens during the levels.

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** Dr. Sanda is quite disliked for a similarly [[RuleOfThree annoying voice]] and [[LargeHam hamming]] it up every now and then. There's also the fact that his role consists mostly of overreacting to stuff that happens during the levels.levels, and offering up terrible, if not flat-out nonsenseical puns.
27th Jan '18 1:12:19 PM lalalei2001
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* BileFascination: Between a disastrous advertising campaign, and high expectations from Mega Man fans paired with a [[TroubledProduction problematic production]] which ultimately reads like a Shakespearean tragedy, many people are drawn to this game as point-and-laugh fodder. That said, others who played it believe that some of the hate is based on overreaction, and that the game isn't as terrible as made out to be, even if it didn't meet expectations.

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* BileFascination: Between a disastrous advertising campaign, and high expectations from Mega Man fans paired with a [[TroubledProduction problematic production]] which ultimately reads like a Shakespearean tragedy, many people are drawn to this game as point-and-laugh fodder. That said, others who played it believe that some of the hate is based on overreaction, and that the game isn't as terrible as made out to be, even if it didn't meet expectations.



** The game's English dub: some find it decent, and with certain characters like Aviator, add charm to their character, while others find it bland and at times annoying to the point of switching over to the Japanese voices.

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** The game's English dub: some dub. Some find it decent, and with certain characters like Aviator, add charm to their character, while others find it bland and at times annoying to the point of switching over to the Japanese voices.



*** Apart from the nine Call design voting choices, the Call with the pink hair received much attention from fans alongside the Roll-looking Call, which would later be designated as Design "F" in the voting contest and become Call's official design, who were featured in a concept art in the early days of the Kickstarter campaign and before the voting contest officially started. Part of this attention stems from the fact that she looks very similar to Aero, a character that would've supposed to make her debut in an upcoming-but-now-canceled ''VideoGame/MegaManLegends 3''.

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*** Apart from the nine Call design voting choices, the Call with the pink hair received much attention from fans alongside the Roll-looking Call, which would later be designated as Design "F" in the voting contest and become Call's official design, who were featured in a concept art in the early days of the Kickstarter campaign and before the voting contest officially started. Part of this attention stems from the fact that she looks very similar to Aero, a character that would've was supposed to make her debut in an upcoming-but-now-canceled ''VideoGame/MegaManLegends 3''.



** One slowly seems to be developing between it and ''VideoGame/AzureStrikerGunvolt'', its fellow SpiritualSuccessor. When the first game of the latter came out, it was seen as SoOkayItsAverage by many ''Mega Man'' fans who were putting their hopes into ''Mighty No. 9'', but after ''Mighty No. 9'' was berated and the second ''Azure Striker: Gunvolt'' game was released but months later as a much-improved sequel, plenty of disgruntled fans jumped ship and started calling ''Gunvolt'' the true successor to ''Mega Man'', which didn't make many of ''Mighty No. 9's'' remaining fans happy. A similar thing also happened with ''VideoGame/{{Rosenkreuzstilette}}'' which started as a very niche indie game before the release at Steam and was at first criticized for staying too much to the original formula, but the same faithfulness was eventually considered a good thing (which also include tons of ShoutOut to the original series) when compared with ''Mighty No. 9'''s disaster.
** Immediately after the announcement of ''VideoGame/MegaMan11'', disgruntled ''Mega Man'' fans and ''Mighty No. 9''[='=]s hatedom were quick to use the former to kick Inafune down and his attempt to make a spiritual successor to the then-ailing ''Mega Man'' franchise while suddenly clamoring to Capcom as they claim they're only ones that know how to make a quality ''Mega Man'' title, despite they were also responsible for canceling a few major ''Mega Man'' titles during its DorkAge and burned their bridges with fans years prior.
** With Inti Creates' ''Mighty Gunvolt'' series, at least the companies are still on good terms if not some players, with ''Burst'' being quite literally Gunvolt handing Beck an olive branch, with the ''Mighty No. 9'' fanbase clutching it almost like a lifeline.

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** One slowly seems to be developing between it and ''VideoGame/AzureStrikerGunvolt'', its fellow SpiritualSuccessor. When the first game of the latter came out, it was seen as SoOkayItsAverage by many ''Mega Man'' fans who were putting their hopes into ''Mighty No. 9'', but after ''Mighty No. 9'' was berated and the second ''Azure Striker: Gunvolt'' game was released but months later as a much-improved sequel, plenty of disgruntled fans jumped ship and started calling ''Gunvolt'' the true successor to ''Mega Man'', which didn't make many of ''Mighty No. 9's'' remaining fans happy. A similar thing also happened with ''VideoGame/{{Rosenkreuzstilette}}'' which started as a very niche indie game before the release at Steam and was at first criticized for staying too much to the original formula, but the same faithfulness was eventually considered a good thing (which also include tons of ShoutOut to the original series) when compared with ''Mighty No. 9'''s disaster.
** Immediately after the announcement of ''VideoGame/MegaMan11'', disgruntled ''Mega Man'' fans and ''Mighty No. 9''[='=]s hatedom were quick to use the former to kick Inafune down and his attempt to make a spiritual successor to the then-ailing ''Mega Man'' franchise while suddenly clamoring to Capcom as they claim they're only ones that know how to make a quality ''Mega Man'' title, despite they were also responsible for canceling a few major ''Mega Man'' titles during its DorkAge and burned their bridges with fans years prior.
** With Inti Creates' ''Mighty Gunvolt'' series, at least the companies are still on good terms if not some players, with ''Burst'' being quite literally Gunvolt handing Beck an olive branch, with the ''Mighty No. 9'' fanbase clutching it almost like a lifeline.
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** Likewise, fan art [[http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/611/878/650.jpg like this]] (back when the game maintained a [[FriendlyFandoms friendly relationship]] with [[VideoGame/{{Shantae}} other]] [[VideoGame/YookaLaylee Kickstarted]] games) made near the start of the ''Mighty No. 9'' saga, which gave way to art [[http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/138/921/1b9.jpg like this]] towards or after the game's release as the backlash escalated.

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** Likewise, fan art [[http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/611/878/650.jpg like this]] (back when the game maintained a [[FriendlyFandoms friendly relationship]] with [[VideoGame/{{Shantae}} other]] [[VideoGame/YookaLaylee Kickstarted]] games) made near the start of the ''Mighty No. 9'' saga, which gave way to art [[http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/138/921/1b9.jpg like this]] towards or after the game's release as the backlash escalated.



** The air dash can allow you to skip entire platforming sections...[[DownplayedTrope when it's not propelling you into obstacles]].

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** The air dash can allow you to skip entire platforming sections... [[DownplayedTrope when it's not propelling you into obstacles]].



*** Nowadays, people like Deep Silver are getting treated by the fans as the ones who ruined the game, while Intlcreates and Comcept are being applauded for Beck's later appearances, which ARE much more like the fans wanted.



* MisaimedMarketing: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YngbHOz--oc Masterclass trailer]] takes a brief swipe at anime fans, which is rather strange considering that comprises a large number of the backers and fans. Note that this foul was on Deep Silver's part, as even the crew at Creator/IntiCreates -- as in the actual development team for the game -- weren't happy about it, either.
* MorePopularSpinoff: Similarly to the [[VindicatedByHistory treatment]] of Inti Creates' other ''Mega Man''-esque offering, ''Azure Striker Gunvolt'', the ''Mighty Gunvolt'' series has been gaining much more praise than it did initially after ''Mighty No. 9''[='=]s harsh reception, and it's sequel, ''Mighty Gunvolt Burst'', also has been viewed more favorably on release, with some even claiming the game as "what ''Mighty No. 9'' 'should' have been".

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* MisaimedMarketing: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YngbHOz--oc Masterclass trailer]] takes a brief swipe at anime fans, which is rather strange considering that comprises a large number of the backers and fans. Note that this This foul was on Deep Silver's part, as even the crew at Creator/IntiCreates -- as in the actual development team for the game -- weren't happy about it, either.
* MorePopularSpinoff: Similarly to the [[VindicatedByHistory treatment]] of Inti Creates' other ''Mega Man''-esque offering, ''Azure Striker Gunvolt'', the The ''Mighty Gunvolt'' series has been gaining much more praise than it did initially after ''Mighty No. 9''[='=]s 9'''s harsh reception, and it's its sequel, ''Mighty Gunvolt Burst'', also has been viewed more favorably on release, with some even claiming the game as "what is what ''Mighty No. 9'' 'should' should have been".been.



** An important factor that very few have called out is the physical development of the game that occurred over at Inti Creates -- namely, their use of the inferior Unreal Engine 3 which resulted in netcoding issues that delayed the project, as opposed to Unreal Engine 4 which they are known to have had access to, as this was the engine properly used for ''Bloodstained'' which began only months after ''Mighty No. 9''.



** Call's MachineMonotone, stealth-based gameplay, annoying sounds in gameplay, and having no personality to speak of didn't win her many fans.



** Even Beck himself isn't safe from being hated due to being the face of a game widely seen as a massive disappointment and those that follow vitriol of various critics and disappointed backers, which is rather unfortunate as Beck is [[NiceGuy a nice kid]] compared to his creator who genuinely cares for the well-being of his family and others.

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** Even Beck himself isn't safe from being hated due to being the face of a game widely seen as a massive disappointment and those that follow vitriol of various critics and disappointed backers, which is rather unfortunate as Beck is [[NiceGuy a nice kid]] compared to his creator who genuinely cares for the well-being of his family and others.backers.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: Countershade[[spoiler:, while infected,]] wants to overthrow humanity so robots can have equal rights. While this presented as wrong, the humans use robots for [[BloodSport gladiator fights]] and slaves [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman despite the robots being sentient]]. As such, several players agreed with him.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Countershade[[spoiler:, while infected,]] Countershade while, infected, wants to overthrow humanity so robots can have equal rights. While this is presented as wrong, the humans use robots for [[BloodSport gladiator fights]] and slaves [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman despite the robots being sentient]]. As such, several players agreed with him.



*** FridgeBrilliance implies that Dr. White likely [[ShootTheDog wasn't even trying]] [[MercyKill to save her.]]
** In a meta-example through fan art, after all the hype the game built, certain factors ruined it, and the game ended up a bomb and a candidate of one of 2016's worst games. You can imagine that [[http://mrmegamattx.deviantart.com/art/Ohhh-no-619083439 Beck]] [[http://mrmegamattx.deviantart.com/art/I-failed-you-all-631369793 felt absolutely horrible]] after [[ToughActToFollow being unable to live up the expectations left behind by his predecessors]] [[Franchise/MegaMan the Mega Men]] ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and]] [[VideoGame/MegamanZero Zero]]). It's only soothed a little with the fact that VideoGame/{{Shantae}}, who had tremendous success in her own Kickstarter game, is shown patting his back, sympathizing with his anguish.
*** Many people looking at those likely would, nowadays, see Gunvolt helping him up, taking hold of the legacy of ''Mega Man'' for him, while he learns that, maybe, [[https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=62832338 just maybe]], he will manage it one day.

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*** FridgeBrilliance implies that Dr. White likely [[ShootTheDog wasn't even trying]] [[MercyKill to save her.]]
** In a meta-example through fan art, after After all the hype the game built, certain factors ruined it, and hype, the game ended up a bomb and a candidate of as one of 2016's worst games. You can imagine that [[http://mrmegamattx.deviantart.com/art/Ohhh-no-619083439 Beck]] [[http://mrmegamattx.deviantart.com/art/I-failed-you-all-631369793 felt absolutely horrible]] after [[ToughActToFollow being unable Much fan art has been made about dashed expectations, as well as other characters trying to live up the expectations left behind by his predecessors]] [[Franchise/MegaMan the Mega Men]] ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and]] [[VideoGame/MegamanZero Zero]]). It's only soothed a little with the fact that VideoGame/{{Shantae}}, who had tremendous success in her own Kickstarter game, is shown patting his back, sympathizing with his anguish.
*** Many people looking at those likely would, nowadays, see
comfort Beck.
** ''Mighty
Gunvolt helping him up, Burst'' has Ray's campaign involving [[spoiler:her evil split personality completely taking hold of the legacy of ''Mega Man'' for him, while he learns that, maybe, [[https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=62832338 just maybe]], he will manage it one day.her over]].



* VindicatedByHistory: Fans have come to blame Creator/DeepSilver for some of the worst problems the release of the game has, and games like ''[[VideoGame/AzureStrikerGunvolt Mighty Gunvolt Burst]]'' have made Beck into a worthy, if slightly tarnished, successor to Mega Man.
** [[SubvertedTrope And then]] ''VideoGame/MegaMan11'' [[SubvertedTrope was announced...]]

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* VindicatedByHistory: Fans have come to blame Creator/DeepSilver for some of the worst problems the release of the game has, and games like ''[[VideoGame/AzureStrikerGunvolt Mighty Gunvolt Burst]]'' have made Beck into has been very well-received, with fans taking it as a worthy, if slightly tarnished, successor to Mega Man.
** [[SubvertedTrope And then]] ''VideoGame/MegaMan11'' [[SubvertedTrope was announced...]]
sign that the franchise isn't dead yet.



* WinBackTheCrowd: ''Mighty Gunvolt Burst'' came out with glowing praise, and managed to make more than a few burnt-out backers more willing to give Beck and pals another chance, being a much less NintendoHard game with none of Beck's [[ScrappyMechanic constant dashing]], due to the levels being made to be able to be completed by everyone.
** ''Mighty Gunvolt Burst'' also manages something ''Mighty No. 9'' failed to do with it's most recent update... A Call DLC pack which references three other popular designs for Call, in alternate costumes she can find, and doesn't lock her to ThatOneLevel, instead giving her a parallel campaign.
** It then included a RAY DLC pack that, very quickly, you can actually ''cure her'' of her Xel decay issues, plus, considering the Burst mechanic, which gives a small boost to several stats, is about fighting as close as possible to the enemy, Her melee focus means she is potentially the most powerful character in the game.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''Mighty Gunvolt Burst'' came out with glowing praise, and managed to make more than a few burnt-out backers more willing to give Beck and pals another chance, being a much less NintendoHard game with none of Beck's [[ScrappyMechanic constant dashing]], due to the levels being made to be able to be completed by everyone.
** ''Mighty Gunvolt Burst''
everyone. It also manages something ''Mighty No. 9'' failed to do with it's most recent update... A had a Call DLC pack which references three other popular designs for Call, in alternate costumes she can find, and doesn't lock her to ThatOneLevel, instead giving her a parallel campaign.
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campaign. It then included a RAY DLC pack that, very quickly, where you can actually ''cure her'' cure her of her Xel decay issues, plus, considering the Burst mechanic, which gives a small boost to several stats, is about fighting as close as possible to the enemy, Her melee focus means she is potentially the most powerful character issues in the game.gameplay.
16th Jan '18 1:30:43 AM nicktoonhero
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** The air dash can allow you to skip entire platforming sections...[[DownplayedTrope when it's not dashing you into obstacles]].

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** The air dash can allow you to skip entire platforming sections...[[DownplayedTrope when it's not dashing propelling you into obstacles]].
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