History YMMV / MetroidOtherM

15th Dec '17 4:08:34 PM mrbits
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** The game either provides Samus with long-needed character development, or it turns her from an awesomely [[TheStoic stoic]] warrior into a stereotypical moeblob. There are some who don't find Samus' portrayal to be as awful and destructive as detractors make it out to be, and believe that most of the controversy is [[http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/372 because fans envisioned Samus]] as a "[[DistaffCounterpart female]] [[RatedMForManly manly man]]" of sorts (which was reinforced by early American material giving her masculine traits and depicting her as an extremely buff AmazonianBeauty).
** That's not even getting into the debates on Fan reactions as to how well [[spoiler:[[HeroicBSOD Samus's reaction to Ridley]] was handled.]]
** In addition, you have a further split between fans when it comes to story presentation in Metroid games: those who want it to be more cinematic and grander versus those who prefer a minimalistic, "figure-it-out-for-yourself" approach. Although this particular debate got started with ''Metroid Fusion'' and escalated with ''Prime 3: Corruption'', it was ''Other M'' that really showed how divisive this issue is.
** There was also a smaller division over who was to "blame" for ''Other M'', which was eventually resolved once Team Ninja distanced themselves from the project and made public that many of the controversial design choices were Sakamoto's idea. But again, see ScapegoatCreator down below.

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** The game either provides Samus with long-needed character development, or it turns her from an awesomely [[TheStoic stoic]] warrior into a stereotypical moeblob. There are some who don't find Samus' portrayal to be as awful and destructive as detractors make it out to be, and believe that most of the controversy is [[http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/372 because fans envisioned Samus]] as a "[[DistaffCounterpart female]] [[RatedMForManly manly man]]" of sorts (which was reinforced by early American material giving her masculine traits and depicting her as an extremely buff AmazonianBeauty).
** That's not even getting into the debates on Fan reactions as to how well [[spoiler:[[HeroicBSOD Samus's reaction to Ridley]] was handled.]]
** In addition, you have a further
split between fans when it comes to story presentation in Metroid games: those who want it to be more cinematic and grander versus those who prefer a minimalistic, "figure-it-out-for-yourself" approach. Although this particular debate got started with ''Metroid Fusion'' and escalated with ''Prime 3: Corruption'', it was ''Other M'' that really showed how divisive this issue is.
** There was also a smaller division over who was to "blame" for ''Other M'', which was eventually resolved once Team Ninja distanced themselves from the project and made public that many of the controversial design choices were Sakamoto's idea. But again, see ScapegoatCreator down below.
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3rd Dec '17 12:42:26 PM rjd1922
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* TakeThatScrappy: For people who hate Adam and his authorization system, it's ''immensely'' satisfying to hear Samus activate the Screw Attack on her own while saying [[IronicEcho "Any objections, Adam?"]]
28th Nov '17 9:41:33 AM Chasem
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** Samus' Varia Suit redesign in this game resembles [[Franchise/NeonGenesisEvangelion an Evangelion unit]]. Her suit is red, just like EVA-02. Its pilot Asuka Langley Soryu (or [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Shikinami]]) is the ''[[HotBlooded exact]] [[LeeroyJenkins opposite]]'' of [[ReiAyanamiExpy how Samus is portrayed]] in this game.



* SerialNumbersFiledOff: The game's plot, characters and settings can be seen as a second-rate ripoff of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The game has an unhealthy obsession with Freudian undertones (in this case, maternal) and psychological rumination, Samus embodies traits of both Rei Ayanami and Shinji Ikari to make for a very emotionally volatile and bleak character, her Varia Suit's redesign superficially resembles an Evangelion unit[[note]]ironically, it's [[RedIsHeroic red]], the color of [[HotBlooded Asuka Langley]]'s Eva unit[[/note]], and Adam is depicted as an authoritative figure who Samus shows UndyingLoyalty to, similar to Gendo Ikari and his relationship with Rei. This may have been [[FollowTheLeader intentional]]; ''Other M'' was intended to appeal to a Japanese audience, ''Evangelion'' is one of the biggest media franchises in Japan, and Sakamoto seemed to be going through an emotionally unstable, micromanaging phase during [[TroubledProduction the game's development]] similar to Creator/HideakiAnno[='s=] attitude when working on ''Eva''.

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* SerialNumbersFiledOff: The game's plot, characters and settings can be seen as a second-rate ripoff of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The game has an unhealthy obsession with Freudian undertones (in this case, maternal) and psychological rumination, Samus embodies traits of both Rei Ayanami and Shinji Ikari to make for a very emotionally volatile and bleak character, her Varia Suit's redesign superficially resembles an Evangelion unit[[note]]ironically, it's [[RedIsHeroic red]], the color of [[HotBlooded Asuka Langley]]'s Eva unit[[/note]], and Adam is depicted as an authoritative figure who Samus shows UndyingLoyalty to, similar to Gendo Ikari and his relationship with Rei. This may have been [[FollowTheLeader intentional]]; ''Other M'' was intended to appeal to a Japanese audience, ''Evangelion'' is one of the biggest media franchises in Japan, Rei is one of its most beloved characters, and Sakamoto seemed to be going through an emotionally unstable, micromanaging phase during [[TroubledProduction the game's development]] similar to Creator/HideakiAnno[='s=] attitude when working on ''Eva''.
21st Nov '17 7:27:22 AM Chasem
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* SerialNumbersFiledOff: The game's plot, characters and settings can be seen as a second-rate ripoff of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The game has a healthy presence of Freudian undertones (in this case, maternal) and psychological rumination, Samus embodies traits of both Rei Ayanami and Shinji Ikari to make for a very emotionally volatile and bleak character, her Varia Suit's redesign superficially resembles an Evangelion unit[[note]]ironically, it's [[RedIsHeroic red]], the color of [[HotBlooded Asuka Langley]]'s mecha[[/note]], and Adam is depicted as an authoritative figure who Samus shows UndyingLoyalty to, similar to Gendo Ikari and his relationship with Rei. This may have been [[FollowTheLeader intentional]]; ''Other M'' was intended to appeal to a Japanese audience, ''Evangelion'' is one of the biggest media franchises in Japan, and Sakamoto seemed to be going through an emotionally unstable, micromanaging phase during [[TroubledProduction the game's development]] similar to Creator/HideakiAnno[='s=] attitude when working on ''Eva''.

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* SerialNumbersFiledOff: The game's plot, characters and settings can be seen as a second-rate ripoff of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The game has a healthy presence of an unhealthy obsession with Freudian undertones (in this case, maternal) and psychological rumination, Samus embodies traits of both Rei Ayanami and Shinji Ikari to make for a very emotionally volatile and bleak character, her Varia Suit's redesign superficially resembles an Evangelion unit[[note]]ironically, it's [[RedIsHeroic red]], the color of [[HotBlooded Asuka Langley]]'s mecha[[/note]], Eva unit[[/note]], and Adam is depicted as an authoritative figure who Samus shows UndyingLoyalty to, similar to Gendo Ikari and his relationship with Rei. This may have been [[FollowTheLeader intentional]]; ''Other M'' was intended to appeal to a Japanese audience, ''Evangelion'' is one of the biggest media franchises in Japan, and Sakamoto seemed to be going through an emotionally unstable, micromanaging phase during [[TroubledProduction the game's development]] similar to Creator/HideakiAnno[='s=] attitude when working on ''Eva''.
20th Nov '17 4:22:57 PM Chasem
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* SerialNumbersFiledOff: The game's plot, characters and settings can be seen as a second-rate ripoff of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The game has a healthy presence of Freudian undertones (in this case, maternal) and psychological rumination, Samus embodies traits of both Rei Ayanami and Shinji Ikari to make for a very emotionally volatile and bleak character, her Varia Suit's redesign superficially resembles an Evangelion unit[[note]]ironically, it's [[RedIsHeroic red]], the color of [[HotBlooded Asuka Langley]]'s mecha[[/note]], and Adam is depicted as an authoritative figure who Samus shows UndyingLoyalty to, similar to Gendo Ikari and his relationship with Rei. This may have been [[FollowTheLeader intentional]]; ''Other M'' was intended to appeal to a Japanese audience, ''Evangelion'' is one of the biggest media franchises in Japan, and Sakamoto seemed to be going through an emotionally unstable, micromanaging phase during the game's development similar to Creator/HideakiAnno[='s=] attitude when working on ''Eva''.

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* SerialNumbersFiledOff: The game's plot, characters and settings can be seen as a second-rate ripoff of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The game has a healthy presence of Freudian undertones (in this case, maternal) and psychological rumination, Samus embodies traits of both Rei Ayanami and Shinji Ikari to make for a very emotionally volatile and bleak character, her Varia Suit's redesign superficially resembles an Evangelion unit[[note]]ironically, it's [[RedIsHeroic red]], the color of [[HotBlooded Asuka Langley]]'s mecha[[/note]], and Adam is depicted as an authoritative figure who Samus shows UndyingLoyalty to, similar to Gendo Ikari and his relationship with Rei. This may have been [[FollowTheLeader intentional]]; ''Other M'' was intended to appeal to a Japanese audience, ''Evangelion'' is one of the biggest media franchises in Japan, and Sakamoto seemed to be going through an emotionally unstable, micromanaging phase during [[TroubledProduction the game's development development]] similar to Creator/HideakiAnno[='s=] attitude when working on ''Eva''.
20th Nov '17 4:22:14 PM Chasem
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* SerialNumbersFiledOff: The game's plot, characters and settings can be seen as a second-rate ripoff of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The game has a healthy presence of Freudian undertones (in this case, maternal) and psychological rumination, Samus embodies traits of both Rei Ayanami and Shinji Ikari to make for a very emotionally volatile and bleak character, her Varia Suit's redesign superficially resembles an Evangelion unit[[note]]ironically, it's [[RedIsHeroic red]], the color of [[HotBlooded Asuka Langley]]'s mecha[[/note]], and Adam is depicted as an authoritative figure in charge of the operation who Samus shows UndyingLoyalty to, similar to Gendo Ikari and his relationship with Rei. This may have been [[FollowTheLeader intentional]]; ''Other M'' was intended to appeal to a Japanese audience, ''Evangelion'' is one of the biggest media franchises in Japan, and Sakamoto seemed to be going through an emotionally unstable, micromanaging phase during the game's development similar to Creator/HideakiAnno[='s=] attitude when working on ''Eva''.

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* SerialNumbersFiledOff: The game's plot, characters and settings can be seen as a second-rate ripoff of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The game has a healthy presence of Freudian undertones (in this case, maternal) and psychological rumination, Samus embodies traits of both Rei Ayanami and Shinji Ikari to make for a very emotionally volatile and bleak character, her Varia Suit's redesign superficially resembles an Evangelion unit[[note]]ironically, it's [[RedIsHeroic red]], the color of [[HotBlooded Asuka Langley]]'s mecha[[/note]], and Adam is depicted as an authoritative figure in charge of the operation who Samus shows UndyingLoyalty to, similar to Gendo Ikari and his relationship with Rei. This may have been [[FollowTheLeader intentional]]; ''Other M'' was intended to appeal to a Japanese audience, ''Evangelion'' is one of the biggest media franchises in Japan, and Sakamoto seemed to be going through an emotionally unstable, micromanaging phase during the game's development similar to Creator/HideakiAnno[='s=] attitude when working on ''Eva''.
20th Nov '17 4:21:28 PM Chasem
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* SerialNumbersFiledOff: The game's plot, characters and settings can be seen as a second-rate ripoff of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The game has a healthy presence of Freudian undertones (in this case, maternal) and psychological rumination, Samus embodies traits of both Rei Ayanami and Shinji Ikari to make for a very emotionally volatile and bleak character, her Varia Suit's redesign superficially resembles an Evangelion unit[[note]]ironically, it's [[RedIsHeroic red]], the color of [[HotBlooded Asuka Langley]]'s mecha[[/note]], and Adam is depicted as an authoritative figure in charge of the operation who Samus shows UndyingLoyalty to, similar to Gendo Ikari and his relationship with Rei. This may have been [[FollowTheLeader intentional]]; ''Other M'' was intended to appeal to a Japanese audience, ''Evangelion'' is one of the biggest media franchises in Japan, and Sakamoto seemed to be going through an emotionally unstable, micromanaging phase during the game's development similar to Creator/HideakiAnno[='s=] attitude when working on ''Eva''.
20th Nov '17 4:02:04 PM Chasem
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* UncannyValley: Zero Suit Samus. Seeing her very small and lithe build in this game can be jarring, and makes her look like something of an unnatural [[NoodlePeople noodle person]]. Her hairstyle is also less flattering than the TomboyishSidetails she had in other games, and appears as a neon yellow in-engine. Samus' behavior (which is touched upon ''many'' times on this page) doesn't help matters because it in itself is highly unnatural for a human being.

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* UncannyValley: Zero Suit Samus. Seeing her very small and lithe build in this game can be jarring, and makes her look like something of an unnatural [[NoodlePeople noodle person]]. Her hairstyle is also less flattering than the TomboyishSidetails she had in other games, and appears as a neon yellow in-engine.in-engine that contrasts sharply to the more natural hair colors of the other characters. Samus' behavior (which is touched upon ''many'' times on this page) doesn't help matters because it in itself is highly unnatural for a human being.
20th Nov '17 4:01:04 PM Chasem
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* UncannyValley: Zero Suit Samus. Seeing her very small and lithe build in this game can be jarring, and makes her look like something of an unnatural [[NoodlePeople noodle person]]. Her hairstyle is also less flattering than the TomboyishSidetails she had in other games, and appears as a neon yellow in-engine. Samus' behavior (which is touched upon ''many'' times on this page) doesn't help matters because it in itself is highly unnatural for a human being.
17th Nov '17 10:55:04 PM Superfield
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** The game occasionally decides to lock Samus into the first person view point (thus disabling movement) and stop the game until the player [[PixelHunt points the targeting cursor at some detail of the scenery]] that the game had decided is important enough that you should see, but not important enough to put directly in a cut scene. The biggest problem with this is that the details are often small and, in one case, a grey object on a slightly lighter grey background.

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** The game occasionally decides to lock Samus into the first person view point (thus disabling movement) and stop the game until the player [[PixelHunt points the targeting cursor at some detail of the scenery]] that the game had decided is important enough that you should see, but not important enough to put directly in a cut scene.cutscene. The biggest problem with this is that the details are often small and, in one case, a grey object on a slightly lighter grey background. While there are guides to help with these now, there obviously weren't any when the game first launched, meaning that some players got stuck on these for as long as 45 minutes at a time. Players were simply baffled how something that was so minor, yet so capable of annihilating the pacing, wasn't removed entirely.
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