History YMMV / MetroidOtherM

16th Apr '18 2:01:34 PM N8han11
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** Samus only talked about the Baby Metroid for part of the first 20 or so minutes, and the rest of the game barely mentioned it. Cue detractors proceeding to exaggerate her talk of the Baby as if it took place throughout the entire duration of the game. The same thing also applies to inner-monologues. Of course, this is also around the point a lot of people admit to quitting the game for good.
*** At the same time, many of Samus' motivations for even going on the Bottle Ship, and even one of the most infamous scenes in the game are based upon the Baby Metroid, giving some credence to why it's always brought up.
16th Apr '18 1:59:53 PM pokedude99
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Due to ''Metroid''[='=]s lower popularity in Japan, this game was designed to appeal more to Nintendo's home audience. [[SubvertedTrope However]], not only did ''Other M'' fail to attract much attention in Japan (sales and reviews were lukewarm at best), it also {{a|udienceAlienatingPremise}}lienated (No pun intedned) the American players that have been the bulk of ''Metroid''[='=]s fanbase.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: Due to ''Metroid''[='=]s lower popularity in Japan, this game was designed to appeal more to Nintendo's home audience. [[SubvertedTrope However]], not only did ''Other M'' fail to attract much attention in Japan (sales and reviews were lukewarm at best), it also {{a|udienceAlienatingPremise}}lienated (No pun intedned) intended) the American players that have been the bulk of ''Metroid''[='=]s fanbase.
16th Apr '18 1:59:12 PM pokedude99
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Due to ''Metroid''[='=]s lower popularity in Japan, this game was designed to appeal more to Nintendo's home audience. [[SubvertedTrope However]], not only did ''Other M'' fail to attract much attention in Japan (sales and reviews were lukewarm at best), it also {{a|udienceAlienatingPremise}}lienated the American players that have been the bulk of ''Metroid''[='=]s fanbase.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: Due to ''Metroid''[='=]s lower popularity in Japan, this game was designed to appeal more to Nintendo's home audience. [[SubvertedTrope However]], not only did ''Other M'' fail to attract much attention in Japan (sales and reviews were lukewarm at best), it also {{a|udienceAlienatingPremise}}lienated (No pun intedned) the American players that have been the bulk of ''Metroid''[='=]s fanbase.
13th Apr '18 1:12:08 PM AguFungus
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** There's also a small section of fans that have blamed the Other M haters for the BrokenBase as well as the game not doing well. [[FanMyopia They seem to believe]] that the fanbase became too critical and too nitpicky about the series. It wasn't the game that was bad to them, but rather the people's reaction to it.

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** There's also a small section of fans that have blamed the Other M haters for the BrokenBase as well as the game not doing well. [[FanMyopia They seem to believe]] that the fanbase became too critical and too nitpicky about the series. It wasn't the game that was bad to them, [[ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow but rather the people's reaction to it.it]].
31st Mar '18 12:03:21 PM UFOLoche
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***At the same time, many of Samus' motivations for even going on the Bottle Ship, and even one of the most infamous scenes in the game are based upon the Baby Metroid, giving some credence to why it's always brought up.
2nd Mar '18 2:09:39 AM Turrican
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* * CounterpartComparison: MB To the AI in ''Metroid Fusion''. Both were constructs created posthumously in service to the Federation, and both of them performed their assigned tasks to begin with before starting to rebel once their original identities surfaced. [[spoiler:But while the Adam AI managed to learn from the mistakes of his human self, MB did not.]]

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* * CounterpartComparison: MB To the AI in ''Metroid Fusion''. Both were constructs created posthumously in service to the Federation, and both of them performed their assigned tasks to begin with before starting to rebel once their original identities surfaced. [[spoiler:But while the Adam AI managed to learn from the mistakes of his human self, MB did not.]]
2nd Mar '18 2:09:08 AM Turrican
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* * CounterpartComparison: MB To the AI in ''Metroid Fusion''. Both were constructs created posthumously in service to the Federation, and both of them performed their assigned tasks to begin with before starting to rebel once their original identities surfaced. [[spoiler:But while the Adam AI managed to learn from the mistakes of his human self, MB did not.]]
17th Feb '18 9:18:07 PM RainbowPhoenix
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** The story's main personal {{conflict}} carries strong allusions to "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filial_piety filial piety]]", a strong part of Asian culture. For example, Samus is characterized as subordinate to the Galactic Federation despite [[IWorkAlone working alone]] and being the [[OneManArmy One-Woman Army]] that predates both Master Chief of ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' fame or Gordon Freeman of ''VideoGame/HalfLife'' fame. In Japan's military system, a soldier walking out on an officer is inexcusable, and soldiers are completely subservient to their [=COs=] - '''never''' questioning orders for ''any'' reason - but since Samus is a girl, it's seen as objectifying and belittling, especially since Filial Piety ''also'' explicitly states that women are subordinate to men. Even without the gender aspect, American players in general were totally baffled by the idea that simply leaving Adam's command is a valid reason for his animosity toward her.

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** The story's main personal {{conflict}} carries strong allusions to "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filial_piety filial piety]]", a strong part of Asian culture. For example, Samus is characterized as subordinate to the Galactic Federation despite [[IWorkAlone working alone]] and being the [[OneManArmy One-Woman Army]] that predates both Master Chief of ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' fame or Gordon Freeman of ''VideoGame/HalfLife'' fame. In Japan's military system, a soldier walking out on an officer is inexcusable, and soldiers are completely subservient to their [=COs=] - '''never''' questioning orders for ''any'' reason - but since Samus is a girl, it's seen as objectifying and belittling, especially since Filial Piety ''also'' explicitly states that women are subordinate to men. Even without the gender aspect, American players in general were totally baffled by the idea that simply leaving Adam's command command, by all appearances going through the proper channels, is a valid reason for his animosity toward her.
9th Feb '18 10:36:01 AM Chasem
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** [[http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=927435 Numerous]] [[http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=927432 concept]] [[http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=927426 sketches]] [[http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=927424 exist]] for a ''Metroid'' comic series by Creator/ArchieComics that took clear inspiration from ''Other M'', but was ultimately rejected by Nintendo, along with series based on ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' and ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}''. Given Archie's track record with the ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehog'' and ''ComicBook/MegaMan'' comics, as well as the fact that they were a Western publisher,[[note]]criticisms of ''Other M'' were most vocal and well-known in the West[[/note]] many people saw this as a wasted opportunity to invoke AuthorsSavingThrow and address the game's effects on ''Metroid'' canon long before ''VideoGame/MetroidSamusReturns'' came out.
17th Jan '18 9:23:17 PM Chasem
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** Some fans with depression, anxiety and/or PTSD have noted that Samus actually exhibits traits of those conditions fairly realistically in ''Other M'', including in her interpersonal interactions.[[note]]An exception is the infamous "Varia Suit not authorized yet" moment;
while similar to how some such people can be unhealthily desperate for validation from/afraid to offend their superiors,
it defies the human survival instinct and is an utterly extreme example of the behavior.[[/note]] However, like with the "prequel" idea, this is undercut by the fact that, during ''Other M''[='s=] place in the timeline, Samus is a very experienced bounty hunter who couldn't logically be interpreted (going by previous games) as anything but strong, independent, capable, and able to cope with any personal traumas she may have had. While the most likely intended explanation for her behavior is that she's a ShellShockedVeteran who's had to put up with a lot of death, killing and personal trauma, absolutely nothing was done to reconcile this sort of idea with her previous appearances.

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** Some fans with depression, anxiety and/or PTSD have noted that Samus actually exhibits traits of those conditions fairly realistically in ''Other M'', including in her interpersonal interactions.[[note]]An exception is the infamous "Varia Suit not authorized yet" moment;
moment; while similar to how some such people can be unhealthily desperate for validation from/afraid to offend their superiors,
superiors, it defies the human survival instinct and is an utterly extreme example of the behavior.[[/note]] However, like with the "prequel" idea, this is undercut by the fact that, during ''Other M''[='s=] place in the timeline, Samus is a very experienced bounty hunter who couldn't logically be interpreted (going by previous games) as anything but strong, independent, capable, and able to cope with any personal traumas she may have had. While the most likely intended explanation for her behavior is that she's a ShellShockedVeteran who's had to put up with a lot of death, killing and personal trauma, absolutely nothing was done to reconcile this sort of idea with her previous appearances.
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