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** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-y1N29vH2Y Meshuggah]] of [[Film/TheWolfOfWallStreet wall street.]]
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** "Bleed" is the subject of a meme, where its iconic chugging rhythm [[EverythingIsAnInstrument is replicated by something that's not normally used as an instrument]], such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOXF4rSwZM0 a dog]] or [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O8zhU3QQII an idling motorcycle]].
%%** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-y1N29vH2Y Meshuggah]] of [[Film/TheWolfOfWallStreet wall street.]]
%%** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-y1N29vH2Y Meshuggah]] of [[Film/TheWolfOfWallStreet wall street.]]
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Entirely speculative and admits to being inaccurate
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny:
** Metal blog Metal Sucks speculated that ''Koloss'' [[ThisIsGonnaSuck would suffer from this]] because of it being released in 2012 during the heyday of the djent movement. It did suffer from some backlash, but it was generally praised by both fans and critics.
** This feeling about the band has eased off in recent years, due to djent not being the trendy form of metal anymore and them changing their sound up a bit from ''The Violent Sleep of Reason'' onwards.
** Metal blog Metal Sucks speculated that ''Koloss'' [[ThisIsGonnaSuck would suffer from this]] because of it being released in 2012 during the heyday of the djent movement. It did suffer from some backlash, but it was generally praised by both fans and critics.
** This feeling about the band has eased off in recent years, due to djent not being the trendy form of metal anymore and them changing their sound up a bit from ''The Violent Sleep of Reason'' onwards.
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* FandomRivalry: With Music/{{Gojira}}, although most would say it's a FriendlyRivalry.
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* FandomRivalry: With Music/{{Gojira}}, [[Music/GojiraBand Gojira]], although most would say it's a FriendlyRivalry.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Tomas and Jens. The former for being the band's primary creative force and one of the main songwriters. The latter, in addition to being the vocalist, is the most recognizable to causal audiences for being bald and making strange faces.
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* FandomEnragingMisconception: Despite taking influence from it, referring to them as a death metal band is extremely controversial.
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* FandomEnragingMisconception: Despite taking influence from it, the genre, referring to them as a death metal band is extremely controversial.controversial. Since they take elements of so many styles, most fans agree that calling them "experimental metal" is about the only thing you can do to accurately label them.
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* AscendedExtra: There's a point to be made that Dick Lovgren is one. He's gone from just being the band's bass player to being one of the band's main songwriters from ''The Violent Sleep of Reason'' onwards. This is more impressive when you realise that, while he was a member during the recording of ''Catch Thirtythree'', he didn't record a single bass part on the album.
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* DemotedToExtra: It could be argued that this has happened to Fredrik. He didn't tour with the band from 2017-2021, and he wasn't involved in the songwriting process for ''The Violent Sleep of Reason'' and ''Immutable''.
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: %%- [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV0CpcXsQKE Alan Partridge meets Meshuggah]]
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4EH52v7tVI "Futile Breed Machine (Campfire Version)"]]. The fact that it comes right after the incredibly brutal "Future Breed Machine (Mayhem Version)" makes it even better.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4EH52v7tVI "Futile Breed Machine (Campfire Version)"]]. The fact that it comes right after the incredibly brutal "Future Breed Machine (Mayhem Version)" makes it even better.
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: %%- [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV0CpcXsQKE Alan Partridge meets Meshuggah]]
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4EH52v7tVI "Futile Breed Machine (Campfire Version)"]]. The fact that it comes right after the incredibly brutal "Future Breed Machine (Mayhem Version)" makes it even better.better.
%%** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV0CpcXsQKE Alan Partridge meets Meshuggah]]
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%%** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV0CpcXsQKE Alan Partridge meets Meshuggah]]
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* MemeticMutation: The [[http://www.holymetal.com/photogallery/img/foto/1660/IMG_0778b.jpg face Jens]] makes has been coined the, "Meshuggah Face."
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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
** The [[http://www.holymetal.com/photogallery/img/foto/1660/IMG_0778b.jpg face Jens]] makes has been coined the, "Meshuggah Face."
** The [[http://www.holymetal.com/photogallery/img/foto/1660/IMG_0778b.jpg face Jens]] makes has been coined the, "Meshuggah Face."
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* CreepyAwesome: Is their music bizarre and terrifying? Yes, but is it awesome? Also yes.
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* CreepyAwesome: CreepyAwesome:
** Is their music bizarre and terrifying? Yes, but is it awesome? Also yes.
** Is their music bizarre and terrifying? Yes, but is it awesome? Also yes.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Tomas. Jens and Fredrik are also good contenders.
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV0CpcXsQKE Alan Partridge meets Meshuggah]]
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments - SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: %%- [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV0CpcXsQKE Alan Partridge meets Meshuggah]]
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Metal blog Metal Sucks speculated that ''Koloss'' [[ThisIsGonnaSuck would suffer from this]] because of it being released in 2012 during the heyday of the djent movement. It did suffer from some backlash, but it was generally praised by both fans and critics.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: SeinfeldIsUnfunny:
** Metal blog Metal Sucks speculated that ''Koloss'' [[ThisIsGonnaSuck would suffer from this]] because of it being released in 2012 during the heyday of the djent movement. It did suffer from some backlash, but it was generally praised by both fans and critics.
** Metal blog Metal Sucks speculated that ''Koloss'' [[ThisIsGonnaSuck would suffer from this]] because of it being released in 2012 during the heyday of the djent movement. It did suffer from some backlash, but it was generally praised by both fans and critics.
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* CreativeDifferences: Apparently the reason why Gustaf Hielm was asked to leave the band in 2001. He wanted to have a greater role in the band's creative process, which the rest of the band weren't open to at the time.
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** Some fans dislike ''The Violent Sleep of Reason'' and ''Immutable'' because Fredrik didn't contribute musically to either of them.
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** Some fans dislike ''The Violent Sleep of Reason'' and ''Immutable'' because Fredrik didn't contribute musically to either of them. Other portions of the fanbase also really disliked the mix on ''Immutable'', feeling like it was too muddy and bass-heavy.
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** This feeling about the band has eased off in recent years, due to djent not being the trendy form of metal anymore.
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** This feeling about the band has eased off in recent years, due to djent not being the trendy form of metal anymore.anymore and them changing their sound up a bit from ''The Violent Sleep of Reason'' onwards.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Metal blog Metal Sucks speculated that ''Koloss'', in the post-djent metal scene [[ThisIsGonnaSuck would suffer from this]]. It did suffer from some backlash but was generally praised by both fans and critics.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Metal blog Metal Sucks speculated that ''Koloss'', in the post-djent metal scene ''Koloss'' [[ThisIsGonnaSuck would suffer from this]]. this]] because of it being released in 2012 during the heyday of the djent movement. It did suffer from some backlash backlash, but it was generally praised by both fans and critics.critics.
** This feeling about the band has eased off in recent years, due to djent not being the trendy form of metal anymore.
** This feeling about the band has eased off in recent years, due to djent not being the trendy form of metal anymore.
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* FriendlyFandoms: With [[{{Music/ScarSymmetry}} Scar Symmetry]], due to Per Nilsson standing in for Fredrik during the period where he wasn't touring.
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* AscendedExtra: There's a point to be made that Dick Lovgren is one. He's gone from just being the band's bass player to being one of the band's main songwriters from ''The Violent Sleep of Reason'' onwards. This is more impressive when you realise that, while he was a member during the recording of ''Catch Thirtythree'', he didn't record a single bass part on the album.
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** Which era of the band is better - the earlier thrashier era or the later more progressive era with lower tunings?
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* BrokenBase: The debate between whether the original or reissue versions of ''Nothing'' are better than the other. Some fans liked the original version for having a warmer, more nuanced sound due to the use of downtuned seven-string guitars, which introduced a more "rubbery" tone as the looser strings would slip out of tune, while fans of the newer version prefer the reissue version due to the tighter overall sound and for being recorded with eight-string guitars as originally intended.
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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
** The debate between whether the original or reissue versions of ''Nothing'' are better than the other. Some fans liked the original version for having a warmer, more nuanced sound due to the use of downtuned seven-string guitars, which introduced a more "rubbery" tone as the looser strings would slip out of tune, while fans of the newer version prefer the reissue version due to the tighter overall sound and for being recorded with eight-string guitars as originallyintended.intended.
** Some fans dislike ''The Violent Sleep of Reason'' and ''Immutable'' because Fredrik didn't contribute musically to either of them.
** The debate between whether the original or reissue versions of ''Nothing'' are better than the other. Some fans liked the original version for having a warmer, more nuanced sound due to the use of downtuned seven-string guitars, which introduced a more "rubbery" tone as the looser strings would slip out of tune, while fans of the newer version prefer the reissue version due to the tighter overall sound and for being recorded with eight-string guitars as originally
** Some fans dislike ''The Violent Sleep of Reason'' and ''Immutable'' because Fredrik didn't contribute musically to either of them.
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* DemotedToExtra: It could be argued that this has happened to Fredrik. He didn't tour with the band from 2017-2021, and he wasn't involved in the songwriting process for ''The Violent Sleep of Reason'' and ''Immutable''.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some older fans didn't really like the post-''Chaosphere'' releases, as they felt that the band lost much of their musical aggression with their greater focus on slower, groovier tracks. ''Nothing'' and ''Catch Thirtythree'', in particular, get hit by this sentiment the most. (Despite this, ''Catch Thirtythree'' is currently their second highest rated full-length album on Metal Archives - go figure.) This feeling subsided after they introduced thrashier elements back in [=''ObZen''=].
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some older fans didn't really like the post-''Chaosphere'' releases, as they felt that the band lost much of their musical aggression with their greater focus on slower, groovier tracks. ''Nothing'' and ''Catch Thirtythree'', in particular, get hit by this sentiment the most. (Despite this, ''Catch Thirtythree'' is currently their second highest rated full-length album on Metal Archives - go figure.) This feeling subsided after they introduced thrashier elements back in [=''ObZen''=].
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