History YMMV / MarvelUniverse

6th Oct '17 3:11:46 AM N8han11
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** It's absolutely true that a lot of fans would like the characters to return to Marvel, and almost no one will defend Fox's handling of the Fantastic Four films (the X-Men films waver film-to-film but most agree that ''Film/{{Deadpool}}'' and ''Film/{{Logan}}'' are great and ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' is excellent, and the first two Singer films are a little dated but has some great moments) but they don't see why Marvel has to [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure attack the comics]]. Kevin Feige also pointed out that if and when Marvel recovers the rights they don't have, it won't necessarily lead to an automatic film adaptation since investors will be vary about a project with bad publicity and weak public reception, and if the movies, as in the case of Fantastic Four, have not been doing well, the only other way to build up to IP would be through new comics storylines, and as such it is absolutely in Marvel's interest to continue creating comics that build and update Fantastic Four and the X-Men regardless of how the movies work, with many noting how Warner Bros. put out quality animation showing lesser known DC figures even when they didn't have movie plans.
5th Oct '17 3:08:14 PM Corlagon
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* ArchivePanic: According to ''Complete Marvel Reading Order'', Marvel has put out some 17,000 "core" stories/issues in 50 years, or 22,000 if you want to include obscure stuff as well. And that's still discounting a lot of stories that are clearly out of continuity or just take place in the past, and the fact that they constantly produce new ones. Most of them can easily be read via ''Marvel Unlimited'', but completionists obviously better not have a life.
25th Sep '17 10:33:54 AM JulianLapostat
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** The complaints have been heavily against the way Marvel short-changes comics and brands simply because they don't have the rights to it, and the film studios that do have those rights don't want to give the goose that lays the golden egg. The big example is how ''ComicBook/XMen}}'' are transparently being downgraded in the Marvel Universe simply because of Fox's ''Film/XMenFilmSeries'', while ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'', the comic on which Marvel was founded was outright cancelled (with some noting that it's analogous to DC cutting off Superman comics simply because his recent films have been weak).
** It's absolutely true that a lot of fans would like the characters to return to Marvel, and almost no one will defend Fox's handling of the Fantastic Four films (the X-Men films waver film-to-film but most agree that ''Film/{{Deadpool}}'' and ''Film/{{Logan}}'' are great and ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' is excellent, and the first two Singer films are a little dated but has some great moments) but they don't see why Marvel has to [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure attack the comics]]. Kevin Feige also pointed out that if and when Marvel recovers the rights they don't have, it won't necessarily lead to an automatic film adaptation since investors will be vary about a project with bad publicity and weak public reception, and if the movies, as in the case of Fantastic Four, have not been doing well, the only other way to build up to IP would be through new comics storylines, and as such it is absolutely in Marvel's interest to continue creating comics that build and update Fantastic Four and the X-Men regardless of how the movies work, with many noting how Warner Bros. put out quality animation showing lesser known DC figures even when they didn't have movie plans.
25th Sep '17 9:59:29 AM NebulousPullastrine
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* NeverLiveItDown: Dr. Pym hit his wife once, and ''only'' once, while in the middle of a nervous breakdown (one that Janet helped cause no less so she did deserve it in a way).

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* NeverLiveItDown: Dr. Pym hit his wife once, and ''only'' once, while in the middle of a nervous breakdown (one that Janet helped cause no less so she did deserve it in a way).Pym
26th Jun '17 8:34:27 PM TheSwordsman
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Eddie Brock: Either a complex badass who should be in more comics or a boring, one-dimensional NinetiesAntiHero [[TheArtifact artifact]] that needs to just go away. This depends largely on whether he's playing the villain or the hero.
* CompleteMonster: See [[Monster/MarvelComics here]].

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Eddie Brock: Either a complex badass anti-hero who should be in more comics comics, or one of Spider-Man's greatest villains that became a boring, one-dimensional NinetiesAntiHero [[TheArtifact artifact]] that needs to just go away. This depends largely on whether he's playing the villain or the hero.
* CompleteMonster: See [[Monster/MarvelComics here]].



** Amongst the heroes: Blade, Deadpool, Hannibal King, Hercules, Darkhawk, Iron Fist, the Thing, Moon Knight, War Machine, Hawkeye, the Great Lakes Avengers (especially Squirrel Girl), Sleepwalker, Ms. Marvel ([[AffirmativeActionLegacy both]] [[Comicbook/MsMarvel of]] [[Comicbook/MsMarvel2014 them]]), Scarlet Spider, Agent Venom and Spider-Gwen.

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** Amongst the heroes: Blade, Deadpool, Hannibal King, Hercules, Darkhawk, Iron Fist, the Thing, Moon Knight, War Machine, Hawkeye, the Great Lakes Avengers (especially Squirrel Girl), Sleepwalker, Ms. Marvel ([[AffirmativeActionLegacy both]] [[Comicbook/MsMarvel of]] [[Comicbook/MsMarvel2014 them]]), Scarlet Spider, Venom, Agent Venom and Spider-Gwen.
29th Apr '17 10:02:01 AM HBarnill
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* Mephisto reversing Peter and MJ's marriage.

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* ** Mephisto reversing Peter and MJ's marriage.
29th Apr '17 10:01:27 AM HBarnill
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* Mephisto reversing Peter and MJ's marriage.



* NeverLiveItDown: Dr. Pym hit his wife once, and ''only'' once, while in the middle of a nervous breakdown (one that Janet helped cause no less).

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* NeverLiveItDown: Dr. Pym hit his wife once, and ''only'' once, while in the middle of a nervous breakdown (one that Janet helped cause no less).less so she did deserve it in a way).
25th Apr '17 7:13:53 PM nombretomado
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* FandomRivalry: An internal one is developing from fans of the comics towards the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse films]]. While it's hardly the first time [[{{Retcanon}} adaptations have influenced the comics]], these fans believe Marvel is letting the films turn into a tail that wags the dog at the expense of drastically rear-ending previously established characterizations, storylines, and design elements, sometimes for entire series.

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* FandomRivalry: An internal one is developing from fans of the comics towards the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse films]]. While it's hardly the first time [[{{Retcanon}} adaptations have influenced the comics]], these fans believe Marvel is letting the films turn into a tail that wags the dog at the expense of drastically rear-ending previously established characterizations, storylines, and design elements, sometimes for entire series.
7th Dec '16 7:04:30 PM DustSnitch
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Eddie Brock: Either a complex [[{{Badass}} badass]] who should be in more comics or a boring, one-dimensional NinetiesAntiHero [[TheArtifact artifact]] that needs to just go away. This depends largely on whether he's playing the villain or the hero.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Eddie Brock: Either a complex [[{{Badass}} badass]] badass who should be in more comics or a boring, one-dimensional NinetiesAntiHero [[TheArtifact artifact]] that needs to just go away. This depends largely on whether he's playing the villain or the hero.
4th Dec '16 9:37:31 PM AlleyOop
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* FandomRivalry: An internal one is developing from fans of the comics towards the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse films]]. While it's hardly the first time [[{{Retcanon}} adaptations have influenced the comics]], these fans believe Marvel is letting the films turn into a tail that wags the dog at the expense of drastically rear-ending previously established characterizations, storylines, and design elements, sometimes for entire series.
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