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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xRoCrdHkqE The end of the show has a rather potent one]] as its [[TheStinger Post Credits Stinger]] depicting [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Magnum watching said last episode]] [[LogoJoke all the way to the closing logo]] and turns off the TV to wish the audience 'Good Night.'
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** "Tropical Madness" and "Smaller Than Life" use the word "m*dget" a lot more than would be deemed acceptable today. Magnum admits he doesn't know whether the man is a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midget m*dget]] or a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarfism dwarf]], and in any case by the 1980s "little person" was the polite term, whether you knew or not.

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** "Tropical Madness" and "Smaller Than Life" use the word "m*dget" "midget" a lot more than would be deemed acceptable today. Magnum admits he doesn't know whether the man is a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midget m*dget]] midget]] or a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarfism dwarf]], and in any case by the 1980s "little person" was the polite term, whether you knew or not.
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** "Luther Gillis: File #521": Good luck seeing [[OnceAcceptableTargets an old woman]] being punched out cold for comedy on TV today.

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** "Luther Gillis: File #521": Good luck seeing [[OnceAcceptableTargets an old woman]] woman being punched out cold for comedy on TV today.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: Younger viewers may find it unbelievable that B-movie producer David Norman in "Skin Deep" would also produce highly-regarded films like the one Higgins knows his name from. Back when the episode was made, however, many film producers financed output in both camps, most notably [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dino_De_Laurentiis Dino De Laurentiis]]. Due to the decline of the B-movie genre and rising costs in filmmaking, combined with greater studio control after the ''Film/HeavensGate'' debacle, this is seldom the case today. (A notorious aversion would be Creator/PeterJackson, whose cinematic output is notoriously all over the place.)
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** "Photo Play" has a murdered gangster character [[NamesTheSame named]] [[Series/DesperateHousewives Carlos Solis]].

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** "Photo Play" has a murdered gangster character [[NamesTheSame named]] named [[Series/DesperateHousewives Carlos Solis]].
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** Pamela Bates in "Novel Connection", as not only does she not tell anyone why someone's trying to kill her (''[[WhatAnIdiot after]]'' [[WhatAnIdiot an attempt's been made, mind you]]), but she's an absolute JerkAss to Magnum to boot.

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** Pamela Bates in "Novel Connection", as not only does she not tell anyone why someone's trying to kill her (''[[WhatAnIdiot after]]'' [[WhatAnIdiot (''after'' an attempt's been made, mind you]]), you), but she's an absolute JerkAss to Magnum to boot.
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* FairForItsDay: Myrt Callahan in "Double Jeopardy", who's not only a female film director ''in 1982'' (virtually unheard of at the time), but this is never commented on, much less made fun of. Her only negative trait is that like William B. Knox, she's [[SkewedPriorities too anxious to finish filming]] ''Tahiti Kill'', despite the attempts on Jack Martin's life. In RealLife, Myrt's actress Kathleen Nolan was the first female President of the Screen Actors Guild from 1975 to 1979.

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* FairForItsDay: Myrt Callahan in "Double Jeopardy", who's not only a female film director ''in 1982'' (virtually unheard of at the time), time)[[note]][[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_cinema#Famous_women_in_film_history Some of the earliest directors and producers in film were women]], but as Hollywood became more commercialized, and then the Hayes code was put in place, women were sidelined more to subordinate roles.[[/note]] and but this is never commented on, much less made fun of. Her only negative trait is that like William B. Knox, she's [[SkewedPriorities too anxious to finish filming]] ''Tahiti Kill'', despite the attempts on Jack Martin's life. In RealLife, Myrt's actress Kathleen Nolan was the first female President of the Screen Actors Guild from 1975 to 1979.
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** Blink and you'll miss it in "One More Summer", but T.C. is revealed to be a graduate of HBCU [[https://www.gram.edu Grambling University]]. In a few episodes he wears a Grambling t-shirt. Nice.

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** Blink and you'll miss it in "One More Summer", but T.C. is revealed to be a graduate of HBCU [[https://www.gram.edu Grambling University]]. In a few episodes he wears a Grambling t-shirt. And in "A Little Bit of Luck, A Little Bit of Grief" he's got one for the acclaimed Black National Swimming & Diving Championships - Alabama A&M 1986 (also an HBCU). Nice. (Possibly Roger Moseley's own shirts).
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** Blink and you'll miss it in "One More Summer", but T.C. is revealed to be a graduate of HBCU Grambling University. Nice.

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** Blink and you'll miss it in "One More Summer", but T.C. is revealed to be a graduate of HBCU [[https://www.gram.edu Grambling University.University]]. In a few episodes he wears a Grambling t-shirt. Nice.
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** Higgins in "Let the Punishment Fit the Crime" stages a production of ''Theatre/TheMikado'' with a traditionally all-white cast, which goes on with no problem[[note]] (save for an unrelated assassination attempt on his friend Sir Cedric)[[/note]]. Nowadays, he wouldn't be able to do so without public outcry. They could include a line explaining that they just chose the best actors.

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** Higgins in "Let the Punishment Fit the Crime" stages a production of ''Theatre/TheMikado'' with a traditionally all-white cast, which goes on with no problem[[note]] (save for an unrelated assassination attempt on his friend Sir Cedric)[[/note]]. Nowadays, he wouldn't be able to do so [[https://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/arts/bs-fe-mikado-controversy-20180620-story.html without public outcry. outcry]] (the objections in that article were actually pretty reasonable). They could show some Asian actors in the cast and include a line explaining that they just chose the whoever was best actors.for the role.

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** In "One More Summer" Magnum interrupts a player who is methodically pounding his unhelmeted head into his locker. The player advises Magnum that he should never interrupt a player in training who's trying to concentrate. While the episode in general has a strong message about the fallacy of "playing hurt" as courageous and sporting, this head-bashing routine is not discussed again. Today, [[https://www.center4research.org/football-brain-injuries-need-know/ the debilitating and often deadly effects of head injuries in football]] even ''with'' a helmet are well known.

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** In "One More Summer" Magnum interrupts a player who is methodically pounding his unhelmeted head into his locker. The player advises Magnum that he should never interrupt a player in training who's trying to concentrate. While the episode in general has a strong message about the fallacy of "playing hurt" as courageous and sporting, this head-bashing routine is not barely discussed again. Today, [[https://www.center4research.org/football-brain-injuries-need-know/ the debilitating and often deadly effects of head injuries in football]] even ''with'' a helmet are well known.


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** Blink and you'll miss it in "One More Summer", but T.C. is revealed to be a graduate of HBCU Grambling University. Nice.
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* TearJerker: John Hillerman (Higgins) passed away at the age of 84 on 9 November 2017. He made it onto the Creator/TurnerClassicMovies end-of-year InMemoriam short film, in a brief but memorable clip from ''Film/PaperMoon''.[[/note]]

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* TearJerker: John Hillerman (Higgins) passed away at the age of 84 on 9 November 2017. He made it onto the Creator/TurnerClassicMovies end-of-year InMemoriam "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA0-1QvnTA8 TCM Remembers]]" short film, in a brief but memorable clip from ''Film/PaperMoon''.[[/note]]''Film/PaperMoon''. He's at 03:05 if you want to see him.
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** In "One More Summer" Magnum interrupts a player who is methodically pounding his unhelmeted head into his locker. The player advises Magnum that he should never interrupt a player in training who's trying to concentrate. While the episode in general has a strong message about the fallacy of "playing hurt" as courageous and sporting, this head-bashing routine is not discussed again. Today, [[https://www.center4research.org/football-brain-injuries-need-know/ the debilitating and often deadly effects of head injuries in football]] even ''with'' a helmet are well known.

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** John Dullaghan (Skid Row bum and later Salvation Army officer Ray Brewer in ten episodes of ''Series/BarneyMiller'') played spit & polish Colonel Halver in "From Moscow to Maui" around the same time.



* TearJerker: John Hillerman (Higgins) passed away at the age of 84 on 9 November 2017.

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* TearJerker: John Hillerman (Higgins) passed away at the age of 84 on 9 November 2017. He made it onto the Creator/TurnerClassicMovies end-of-year InMemoriam short film, in a brief but memorable clip from ''Film/PaperMoon''.[[/note]]



** "Tropical Madness" and "Smaller Than Life" use the word "m*dget" a lot more than would be deemed acceptable today, making Magnum's RunningGag in the former episode rather cringeworthy to hear.

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** "Tropical Madness" and "Smaller Than Life" use the word "m*dget" a lot more than would be deemed acceptable today, making Magnum's RunningGag in today. Magnum admits he doesn't know whether the former episode rather cringeworthy to hear.man is a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midget m*dget]] or a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarfism dwarf]], and in any case by the 1980s "little person" was the polite term, whether you knew or not.



** Magnum, Rick, and T.C. calling Lady Ashley a "dog" from her photo in "Computer Date" comes off as cringingly sexist now.

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** Magnum, Rick, and T.C. calling Lady Ashley a "dog" from her photo in "Computer Date" comes off as cringingly sexist now.now, besides being untrue: she has a sweet face and delicate features, just a [[BeautifulAllAlong somewhat severe hairstyle and glasses]]. The elderly actress playing older Penelope also has a pleasant appearance.
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** Ivan calling T.C. by the "N" word in flashbacks was controversial even for the 1980s, but it certainly won't be said on U.S. network television now.

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** Ivan calling T.C. by the "N" word in flashbacks was controversial even for the 1980s, but it certainly won't be said on U.S. network television now. Since, like the Edwin example below, it's completely realistic and appropriate for such an evil man, they'd find a way to let you know that's what Ivan said without actually saying it.



** Higgins in "Let the Punishment Fit the Crime" stages a production of ''Theatre/TheMikado'' with a traditionally all-white cast, which goes on with no problem[[note]] (save for an unrelated assassination attempt on his friend Sir Cedric)[[/note]]. Nowadays, he wouldn't be able to do so without public outcry.

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** Higgins in "Let the Punishment Fit the Crime" stages a production of ''Theatre/TheMikado'' with a traditionally all-white cast, which goes on with no problem[[note]] (save for an unrelated assassination attempt on his friend Sir Cedric)[[/note]]. Nowadays, he wouldn't be able to do so without public outcry. They could include a line explaining that they just chose the best actors.
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** In "Skin Deep", Magnum says that women don't shoot themselves, hence his suspicions concerning Erin Wolfe's supposed suicide. While suicides by gun among women are still uncommon, the deaths of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shauna_Grant Shauna Grant]], Creator/MaryKayBergman and others have made Magnum's words [[HarsherInHindsight ring quite hollow today.]]

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** In "Skin Deep", Magnum says that women don't shoot themselves, themselves -- specifically, he says they don't blow their heads off with a shotgun, especially if they're beautiful -- hence his suspicions concerning Erin Wolfe's supposed suicide. While suicides by gun among women are still uncommon, the deaths of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shauna_Grant Shauna Grant]], Creator/MaryKayBergman and others have made Magnum's words [[HarsherInHindsight ring quite hollow today.]]
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Episodes like "Wave Goodbye" deal with the PTSD of Vietnam veterans.
** "Blind Justice" unflinchingly deals with domestic abuse.
** "Find Me a Rainbow" centers around a black-market baby adoption operation.
** [[spoiler:"The Aunt Who Came to Dinner"]] made ''Magnum'' one of the first television shows to address the subject of Alzheimer's disease.
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* HarsherInHindsight: "Echoes of the Mind"'s backstory for Diane and Deidre Dupres takes on a much sadder tone with Sharon Stone's reveal decades later that she and her sister had suffered sexual abuse as children.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/TedDanson, one year from his breakout role on ''Series/{{Cheers}}'', appears as Stewart Crane in "Don't Say Goodbye".

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** Danny in "Murder 101" is played by future ''Film/AceVentura'' and ''Film/LiarLiar'' director Tom Shadyac.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/TedDanson, one year from his breakout role on ''Series/{{Cheers}}'', appears as Stewart Crane in "Don't Say Goodbye".
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** The show makes it very clear he was found innocent of the first murder. He would have gotten away with the murder in all cases due to double jeopardy, and that is why they frame him for the suicide.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Magnum a {{hero}} or an AntiHero? The show plays with both, as Magnum is benevolent, but can be quite ruthless.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Magnum a {{hero}} TheHero or an AntiHero? The show plays with both, as Magnum is benevolent, but can be quite ruthless.
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* AngstWhatAngst: While the main characters' war backstories are an extensive part of the series' lore, things like the deaths of [[spoiler: Rick's sister Wendy]], [[spoiler: Magnum's younger half-brother Joey]], and [[spoiler: Higgins accidentally having killed a comrade he mistook for an intruder]] get little, if any mention or show any visible effect beyond their respective episodes. A notable exception is the montage showing the deaths of [[spoiler: Lt. "Mac" [=MacReynolds=], Dan Cook, Wendy, Diane Dupres, and Magnum's father]] at the beginning of "Mac's Back".


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** While he had spent decades making an effort to lead a good, honest life, Theo Wolf in "Way of the Stalking Horse" ''still'' carried out a hit in Miami thirty years prior [[KarmaHoudini with no consequences]] until [[spoiler: Driscoll]] got to him.


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** As garbage disposal units are far less common outside the U.S., Rick's mention of them in "Of Sound Mind" can come off as even more outlandish, adding to Magnum's disbelief in having to look out for them.

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