History YMMV / MadameButterfly

10th Apr '17 12:20:30 PM GlitteringFlowers
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** Did Butterfly ask for Pinkerton to come to get his son in half an hour simply so she'd have the chance to see him one more time before she killed herself? Or did she do it as a way to punish him for dashing all her hopes and ruining her life, letting him be confronted with her bleeding corpse?

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** Did Butterfly ask for Pinkerton to come to get his son in half an hour simply so she'd have the chance to see him one more time before she killed herself? [[ThanatosGambit Or did she do it as a way to punish him for dashing all her hopes and ruining her life, letting him be confronted with her bleeding corpse? corpse]]?
9th Mar '17 5:43:19 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Pinkerton is just as stupid, if not even more. Ever since the ''start'' he's warned by the GenreSavvy Sharpless that this Japanese girl has taken the vow he takes for granted ''very'' seriously, and the consul spends the whole first act telling him not to be a jackass ''and'' to take Butterfly's feelings in consideration. He refuses to take Sharpless seriously and insists that he won't give her the time of the day after the first month, then takes off to America and acts almost as if Butterfly didn't exist. ''Of course'' she turns out to be THE Japanese woman who would take his "promise" seriously.

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** Pinkerton is just as stupid, if not even more. Ever since the ''start'' he's warned by the GenreSavvy Sharpless that this Japanese girl has taken the vow he takes for granted ''very'' seriously, and the consul spends the whole first act telling him not to be a jackass ''and'' to take Butterfly's feelings in consideration. He refuses to take Sharpless seriously and insists that he won't give her the time of the day after the first month, then takes off to America and acts almost as if Butterfly didn't exist. ''Of course'' she turns out to be THE Japanese woman who would take his "promise" seriously.
7th Dec '16 2:34:29 AM Morgenthaler
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** Besides all this, Butterfly was merely being slotted into the Western literary position of the Tragic Female, who is traditionally either helpless (Ophelia) or twisted (Lady Macbeth) as opposed to the Comedic Female (spunky like [[AsYouLikeIt Rosalind]]) or Epic Female (strong and noble like [[TheLordOfTheRings Eowyn]]).

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** Besides all this, Butterfly was merely being slotted into the Western literary position of the Tragic Female, who is traditionally either helpless (Ophelia) or twisted (Lady Macbeth) as opposed to the Comedic Female (spunky like [[AsYouLikeIt [[Theatre/AsYouLikeIt Rosalind]]) or Epic Female (strong and noble like [[TheLordOfTheRings [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Eowyn]]).
29th Oct '16 12:14:41 PM rusalka95
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** Highlights of the score include Butterfly's breathtakingly ethereal entrance [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRsK2R1zzQk "Ancora un passo or via"]], the love duet [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIC__27ycwg "Viene la sera"]], Butterfly's main and most famous aria [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-r2vu4t9-g "Un bel di vedremo"]], and the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f1k14GQmNE "Humming Chorus"]], which is so tender and touching that it inspired another great song - "[[Theatre/LesMiserables Bring Him Home.]]"

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** Highlights of the score include Butterfly's breathtakingly ethereal entrance [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRsK2R1zzQk [[https://youtu.be/dRsK2R1zzQk?t=32s "Ancora un passo or via"]], the love duet [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIC__27ycwg "Viene la sera"]], Butterfly's main and most famous aria [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-r2vu4t9-g "Un bel di vedremo"]], and the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f1k14GQmNE "Humming Chorus"]], which is so tender and touching that it inspired another great song - "[[Theatre/LesMiserables Bring Him Home.]]"
29th Oct '16 12:10:08 PM rusalka95
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* AwesomeMusic: This opera is suffused with sumptuous, powerful music that carries the story along with an elegance that is rare even in opera. A great bonus is that Puccini, anxious for authenticity in the music, delved deep into traditional Japanese melodies, peppering them throughout the Italian verismo style music and many times incorporating them directly into the musical line. It paid off and the result is not only music that "sounds" Eastern, but a lot of music that is genuinely Japanese.

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* AwesomeMusic: This opera is suffused with sumptuous, powerful music that carries the story along with an elegance that is rare even in opera. A great bonus is that Puccini, anxious for authenticity in the music, delved deep into traditional Japanese melodies, peppering them throughout the otherwise very Italian verismo style music and many times incorporating them directly into the musical line. It paid off and the result is not only music that "sounds" Eastern, but a lot of music that is genuinely Japanese.
29th Oct '16 12:08:38 PM rusalka95
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** Highlights of the score include Butterfly's entrance "Ancora un passo or via", the love duet "Viene la sera", Butterfly's main and most famous aria "Un bel di vedremo", and the "Humming Chorus", which is so tender and evocative that it inspired another great song - "[[Theatre/LesMiserables Bring Him Home.]]"

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** Highlights of the score include Butterfly's breathtakingly ethereal entrance [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRsK2R1zzQk "Ancora un passo or via", via"]], the love duet [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIC__27ycwg "Viene la sera", sera"]], Butterfly's main and most famous aria [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-r2vu4t9-g "Un bel di vedremo", vedremo"]], and the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f1k14GQmNE "Humming Chorus", Chorus"]], which is so tender and evocative touching that it inspired another great song - "[[Theatre/LesMiserables Bring Him Home.]]"
29th Oct '16 12:01:45 PM rusalka95
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* AwesomeMusic: This opera is suffused with beautiful melodies, music that carries the story along with an elegance that is rare even in opera. "Un Bel Di," Butterfly's rapturous aria about her husband's return, has become a musical classic all on its own, and the "Humming Chorus" is so tender and evocative that it inspired another great song - "[[Theatre/LesMiserables Bring Him Home.]]"

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* AwesomeMusic: This opera is suffused with beautiful melodies, sumptuous, powerful music that carries the story along with an elegance that is rare even in opera. "Un Bel Di," A great bonus is that Puccini, anxious for authenticity in the music, delved deep into traditional Japanese melodies, peppering them throughout the Italian verismo style music and many times incorporating them directly into the musical line. It paid off and the result is not only music that "sounds" Eastern, but a lot of music that is genuinely Japanese.
** Highlights of the score include
Butterfly's rapturous entrance "Ancora un passo or via", the love duet "Viene la sera", Butterfly's main and most famous aria about her husband's return, has become a musical classic all on its own, "Un bel di vedremo", and the "Humming Chorus" Chorus", which is so tender and evocative that it inspired another great song - "[[Theatre/LesMiserables Bring Him Home.]]"
29th Oct '16 8:01:24 AM rusalka95
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**Another thing that must be remembered is that Butterfly is only ''fifteen'' at the start of the opera. She can hardly be expected to be an imposing, strong woman by that time in her life.
**Besides all this, Butterfly was merely being slotted into the Western literary position of the Tragic Female, who is traditionally either helpless (Ophelia) or twisted (Lady Macbeth) as opposed to the Comedic Female (spunky like [[AsYouLikeIt Rosalind]]) or Epic Female (strong and noble like [[TheLordOfTheRings Eowyn]]).
3rd Jun '16 8:08:09 PM vifetoile
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* AwesomeMusic: This opera is suffused with beautiful melodies. "Un Bel Di," Butterfly's rapturous aria about her husband's return, has become a staple of the soprano classics, and the "Humming Chorus" is so tender and evocative that it inspired another great song - "[[Theatre/LesMiserables Bring Him Home.]]"

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* AwesomeMusic: This opera is suffused with beautiful melodies. melodies, music that carries the story along with an elegance that is rare even in opera. "Un Bel Di," Butterfly's rapturous aria about her husband's return, has become a staple of the soprano classics, musical classic all on its own, and the "Humming Chorus" is so tender and evocative that it inspired another great song - "[[Theatre/LesMiserables Bring Him Home.]]"
3rd Jun '16 1:29:04 PM vifetoile
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* AwesomeMusic: This opera is suffused with beautiful melodies. "Un Bel Di," Butterfly's rapturous aria about her husband's return, has become a staple of the soprano classics, and the "Humming Chorus" is so tender and evocative that it inspired another great song - "[[Theatre/LesMiserables Bring Him Home.]]"
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