History YMMV / LoveHina

16th Nov '17 11:26:44 AM mizorefan
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Considering what Keitaro said in his last love confession, about [[spoiler:[[WorthIt how worthy was to see Narusegawa naked despite being punched frequently]]]]. Is he really a AccidentalPervert or [[spoiler:a full-fledged pervert who used an excuse to see the girls naked to compensate all these years being a loser]]?
** At some point of story, Naru started to miss Keitaro's AccidentalPervert antics and latter she even [[spoiler:tried to say to him with other words they should have sex]]. Is Naru a CovertPervert, a woman who as turned into a CovertPervert by Keitaro's antics or are just having troubles with her feelings?
** Motoko and Shinobu [[spoiler:[[UnrequitedLoveLastsForever not giving up from Keitaro in the epilogue, despite him marrying Naru]]]]. Are both really determined to [[spoiler:wait for a chance forever]] or this is just joking?



* BaseBreakingCharacter: Naru is either a hilarious {{Tsundere}} who brings up a lot of the humor, or a horrible DomesticAbuser who should be thrown in jail. (Again, this is more her anime incarnation. She's more liked in the manga thanks to her CharacterDevelopment, although even there, she still tends to push the limits of UnprovokedPervertPayback very close to DomesticAbuse Territory.)

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: BaseBreakingCharacter:
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Naru is either a hilarious {{Tsundere}} who brings up a lot of the humor, or a horrible DomesticAbuser who should be thrown in jail. (Again, this is more her anime incarnation. She's more liked in the manga thanks to her CharacterDevelopment, although even there, she still tends to push the limits of UnprovokedPervertPayback very close to DomesticAbuse Territory.))
** Kanako is easily the second most divisive character. First for debuting in a late part of the story where the plot was almost settled. Second, for bringing a incest romance story with her big crush on Keitaro and third, for being a replacement of fan favorite Otohime. In other hand, she is often praised to be the first girl to show determination to win Keitaro's heart and for putting pressure on Naru. [[spoiler:And for punching Naru]].


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* FanonDiscontinuity: Many fans want to forget the existence of the anime adaptation. And the fact that adaptation didn't age well doesn't help.


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** Zigzagged with Kanako's huge crush on her brother Keitaro. While incest is a taboo, even for people who enjoy harem manga/anime, some don't see a problem considering Keitaro firmly denies any romance interest on Kanako and the fact they are [[spoiler:not blood related brothers]]. Although this still raise some eyebrows since [[spoiler:he had a lot of erotic dreams with her sister for some nights and had a lot AccidentalPervert moments with her]].
20th Sep '17 6:00:28 PM Andrzej
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* DesignatedHero: The girls all qualify, especially Haru. They assault Keitaro for minor offenses, and they sadistically torture his friends when they don't know where he is, and yet we're supposed to see them as good?

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* DesignatedHero: The girls all qualify, especially Haru.Naru. They assault Keitaro for minor offenses, and they sadistically torture his friends when they don't know where he is, and yet we're supposed to see them as good?
20th Sep '17 5:09:50 AM king3000
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* DesignatedHero: The girls all qualify. They assault Keitaro for minor offenses, and they sadistically torture his friends when they don't know where he is.

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* DesignatedHero: The girls all qualify. qualify, especially Haru. They assault Keitaro for minor offenses, and they sadistically torture his friends when they don't know where he is. is, and yet we're supposed to see them as good?
1st Aug '17 3:04:29 AM ElegantVamp
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** Also, the fact that physical abuse and accusations of sexual assault and molestation are PlayedForLaughs is an AudienceAlienatingPremise - ''especially'' in this age and in the west, where DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale and false accusations are becoming more and more of a social issue that most people and the law will not tolerate anymore.

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** Also, the fact that physical abuse and accusations of sexual assault and molestation are PlayedForLaughs is an AudienceAlienatingPremise - ''especially'' in this age and in the west, where DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale and false accusations are becoming more and is more of a social issue that most people and the law will not tolerate anymore.
18th May '17 10:30:25 AM AndyLA
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*** The manga has [[DuelingDubs two complete English translations]], each with its own positives and negatives. The Tokyopop translation has a natural flow to it, but suffers from severe lack of proofreading (Volumes 2-5 and 9 in particular) as well as a LostInTranslation issue near the end due to adapting a term early on that later turned out to be a plot-important multi-level pun. The Kodansha translation by the Nibley sisters has much better editing but is rather literalist and tends to come off stilted as a result.

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*** The manga has [[DuelingDubs two complete English translations]], each with its own positives and negatives. The Tokyopop translation has a natural flow to it, but suffers from severe lack of proofreading (Volumes 2-5 and 9 in particular) as well as a LostInTranslation issue near the end due to adapting a term early on that later turned out to be a plot-important multi-level pun.pun[[note]][[spoiler:see IncrediblyLamePun on the main page. For more context: Tokyo University is consistently mentioned in the original as ''Todai'', a shortened form of its name in Japanese - ''Tokyo Daigaku'' - , but in this translation the terminology used was "Tokyo U"]][[/note]]. The Kodansha translation by the Nibley sisters has much better editing but is rather literalist and tends to come off stilted as a result.
15th May '17 2:02:42 PM PrincessGwen
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* BrokenAesop:
** The idea is that ''everything'' is possible if you try your hardest, even getting into Japan's top university and charming a really hot girl, even though you're a total loser. However, while Keitaro does start off as a really pathetic individual, it does not take long before he turns out to not only be [[BeautifulAllAlong handsome]] but also a gifted archeologist and martial artist. You'd ''expect'' someone who is not really cool or talented to captivate through {{determinat|or}}ion and [[{{Adorkable}} charm]]. While Keitaro is very determined, his defeatist, whiny and relatively immature personality, as well as his tremendous clumsiness deeply annoy the girls... It's only when he drops his usual act that the females show ''any attraction'' for him, often pointing out that he is very handsome when he is not being annoying. Ultimately, instead of ''Manga/LoveHina'' being about an underdog accomplishing goals far beyond his reach through {{determinat|or}}ion and ThePowerOfLove, it's actually about someone who was CrazyAwesome from the start but never had the proper motivation to unlock his potential until he met the girl.
** Alternatively the Aesop could be "if someone berates, insults, hits, and abuses you, keep attempting to date that person. You'll find true love in the end."
15th May '17 11:02:11 AM PrincessGwen
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: [[ZigZaggingTrope Zigzagged]]. While ''Love Hina'' shares a considerable number of clichés with modern works (like the tsundere lead girl and the accidental pervert guy), still has some refreshing ideas. While most of harems are set in a school environment with teenagers, Love Hina is set in a post-school setting (from Keitaro perspective) in a Inn with young adults and teenagers. Also, Love Hina never was a full-fledged harem series, considering [[spoiler:Keitaro choose Narusegawa since the beginning and most of the girls are rooting for they become a couple or at the best waiting for a chance if Keitaro change his mind]], while most of harems after it the main character is unsure about which girl to choose.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: [[ZigZaggingTrope Zigzagged]]. While ''Love Hina'' shares a considerable number of clichés with modern works (like the tsundere lead girl and the accidental pervert guy), still has some refreshing ideas. While most of harems are set in a school environment with teenagers, Love Hina is set in a post-school setting (from Keitaro Keitaro's perspective) in a Inn an inn with young adults and teenagers. Also, Love Hina never was a full-fledged fully-fledged harem series, considering [[spoiler:Keitaro choose chose Narusegawa since the beginning and most of the girls are rooting for they them to become a couple or at the best waiting for a chance if Keitaro change changes his mind]], while most of harems after it have the main character is unsure about which girl to choose.
26th Apr '17 9:12:36 PM AdamC
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* BrokenAesop: the idea is that ''everything'' is possible if you try your hardest, even getting into Japan's top university and charming a really hot girl, even though you're a total loser. However, while Keitaro does start off as a really pathetic individual, it does not take long before he turns out to not only be [[BeautifulAllAlong handsome]] but also a gifted archeologist and martial artist. You'd ''expect'' someone who is not really cool or talented to captivate through {{determinat|or}}ion and [[{{Adorkable}} charm]]. While Keitaro is very determined, his defeatist, whiny and relatively immature personality, as well as his tremendous clumsiness deeply annoy the girls... It's only when he drops his usual act that the females show ''any attraction'' for him, often pointing out that he is very handsome when he is not being annoying. Ultimately, instead of ''Manga/LoveHina'' being about an underdog accomplishing goals far beyond his reach through {{determinat|or}}ion and ThePowerOfLove, it's actually about someone who was CrazyAwesome from the start but never had the proper motivation to unlock his potential until he met the girl. I copy pasted it from Broken Aesop because it deserved to be here.

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* BrokenAesop: the BrokenAesop:
** The
idea is that ''everything'' is possible if you try your hardest, even getting into Japan's top university and charming a really hot girl, even though you're a total loser. However, while Keitaro does start off as a really pathetic individual, it does not take long before he turns out to not only be [[BeautifulAllAlong handsome]] but also a gifted archeologist and martial artist. You'd ''expect'' someone who is not really cool or talented to captivate through {{determinat|or}}ion and [[{{Adorkable}} charm]]. While Keitaro is very determined, his defeatist, whiny and relatively immature personality, as well as his tremendous clumsiness deeply annoy the girls... It's only when he drops his usual act that the females show ''any attraction'' for him, often pointing out that he is very handsome when he is not being annoying. Ultimately, instead of ''Manga/LoveHina'' being about an underdog accomplishing goals far beyond his reach through {{determinat|or}}ion and ThePowerOfLove, it's actually about someone who was CrazyAwesome from the start but never had the proper motivation to unlock his potential until he met the girl. I copy pasted it from Broken girl.
** Alternatively the
Aesop because it deserved could be "if someone berates, insults, hits, and abuses you, keep attempting to be here.date that person. You'll find true love in the end."
3rd Apr '17 8:41:36 PM mizorefan
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* TakeThatScrappy: Despite Kanako being a BaseBreakingCharacter, a lot of people cheered when she punched Naru in the face, specifically because of how often Naru did it to Keitaro.

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* TakeThatScrappy: Despite both Kanako and Naru being a BaseBreakingCharacter, a lot of people cheered when she punched Naru in the face, specifically because of how often Naru did it to Keitaro.
29th Mar '17 12:06:37 AM mizorefan
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* CaptainObviousReveal:
** Naru is [[spoiler:the promise girl. Hinted at the beginning of the story but only confirmed in the last chapter]].
** Keitaro and Kanako [[spoiler:are not blood related]].



* TakeThatScrappy: While Kanako wasn't a popular character herself by any means, a lot of people cheered when she punched Naru in the face, specifically because of how often Naru did it to Keitaro.

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* TakeThatScrappy: While Despite Kanako wasn't being a popular character herself by any means, BaseBreakingCharacter, a lot of people cheered when she punched Naru in the face, specifically because of how often Naru did it to Keitaro.
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