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* CultClassic: The series was created in hopes of attracting industry attention and serving as a pilot for a full-length cable TV series -- a plan that, bluntly, failed miserably. Even the backup plan of securing sponsorship for another season as a short-form web series failed. When ''Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical'' was a surprise hit, Eric Kahn Gale describes ''begging'' Matt and Nick Lang to rerelease Little White Lie on their channel just so someone would see it and it wouldn't be AllForNothing. Lo and behold, the show has acquired a dedicated following among hardcore Starkid fans, with the cast expressing awe that there's now Little White Lie fanfiction and [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments huge cheers for the Little White Lie medley]] at live shows. Gale describes LWL's second life as tremendously gratifying, even if his response to requests for a Season 2 is [[RunningGag "It's over now"]].

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* CultClassic: The series was created in hopes of attracting industry attention and serving as a pilot for a full-length cable TV series -- a plan that, bluntly, failed miserably. Even the backup plan of securing sponsorship for another season as a short-form web series failed. When ''Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical'' was a surprise hit, Eric Kahn Gale describes ''begging'' Matt and Nick Lang to rerelease Little ''Little White Lie Lie'' on their channel just so someone would see it and it wouldn't be AllForNothing. Lo and behold, the show has acquired a dedicated following among hardcore Starkid fans, with the cast expressing awe that there's now Little White Lie fanfiction and [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments huge cheers for the Little White Lie medley]] at live shows. Gale describes LWL's second life as tremendously gratifying, even if his response to requests for a Season 2 is [[RunningGag "It's over now"]].
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* CultClassic: The series was created in hopes of attracting industry attention and serving as a pilot for a full-length cable TV series -- a plan that, bluntly, failed miserably. Even the backup plan of securing sponsorship for another season as a short-form web series failed. When Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical was a surprise hit, Eric Kahn Gale describes ''begging'' Matt and Nick Lang to rerelease Little White Lie on their channel just so someone would see it and it wouldn't be AllForNothing. Lo and behold, the show has acquired a dedicated following among hardcore Starkid fans, with the cast expressing awe that there's now Little White Lie fanfiction and [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments huge cheers for the Little White Lie medley]] at live shows. Gale describes LWL's second life as tremendously gratifying, even if his response to requests for a Season 2 is [[RunningGag "It's over now"]].

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* CultClassic: The series was created in hopes of attracting industry attention and serving as a pilot for a full-length cable TV series -- a plan that, bluntly, failed miserably. Even the backup plan of securing sponsorship for another season as a short-form web series failed. When Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical ''Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical'' was a surprise hit, Eric Kahn Gale describes ''begging'' Matt and Nick Lang to rerelease Little White Lie on their channel just so someone would see it and it wouldn't be AllForNothing. Lo and behold, the show has acquired a dedicated following among hardcore Starkid fans, with the cast expressing awe that there's now Little White Lie fanfiction and [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments huge cheers for the Little White Lie medley]] at live shows. Gale describes LWL's second life as tremendously gratifying, even if his response to requests for a Season 2 is [[RunningGag "It's over now"]].
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* SpiritualSuccessor: Coming in June 2020 is a comedy series titled [[https://tvline.com/2019/07/10/darren-criss-quibi-series-royalties-cast-musical-comedy/ Royalties]] on the new streaming platform Quibi, which is similar in many ways to the idea Creator/TeamStarkid had when making this show (a sitcom-style format in a contemporary setting focused on the music industry), starring Creator/DarrenCriss and with the Creator/LangBrothers involved as writers behind the scenes. Darren has talked about it as a long-delayed culmination of their original plans in college.

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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Say what you will about the band-obsessed student body, but they're certainly not transphobic. Tanya spreads a rumor that Sami is getting a sex change, and everyone's response is to be incredibly supportive, and later confronting Tanya about how disrespectful the lie was to actual trans people. It's all very open-minded for a bunch of rowdy teenagers.
** Arguably a meta form of Fridge Heartwarming: This is a show about a couple of frustrated creative young people who find fame and fortune seem totally out of their reach, until fame and fortune suddenly hit them all at once from an unexpected source. That mirrors the real-life journey of Creator/TeamStarKid, who worked incredibly hard on this series only to watch it sink without a trace -- until it suddenly found an audience after their silly [[Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical Harry Potter parody]] went viral.

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Say what you will about the band-obsessed student body, but they're certainly not transphobic. When Tanya spreads starts a rumor that Sami is getting a sex change, and everyone's trans man who's soon going in for affirmation surgery, what's the response of every single person who hears it? Whole-hearted support. By the time the rumor has spread to the whole WildTeenParty, Tanya is to be incredibly supportive, the only one who finds the notion at all funny, and later confronting Sami is publicly congratulated. When Sami is nonetheless humiliated and upset, everyone confronts Tanya about how disrespectful the lie was it is, not just to actual Sami by spreading lies about her, but also to ''actual'' trans people.people by making a joke out of them. It's all very open-minded for a bunch of rowdy teenagers.
*** On a meta level, it's very poignant in light of [=StarKid=] beginning to see one of their own {{Creator Thumbprint}}s as transphobic--they consider their long tradition of casting male actors as comically creepy, shrill, or unattractive women as an OldShame that mocks trans women, especially in light of Creator/JKRowling, to whom they owe the source material for their [[Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical breakout hit]], going public and unwavering in her own deeply-held anti-trans views. Whatever missteps [=StarKid=] may have made which they're now trying to atone for, this shining moment in their very first project together proves they've always had their LGBTFanbase's backs.
** Arguably Another a meta form of Fridge Heartwarming: This is a show about a couple of frustrated creative young people who find fame and fortune seem totally out of their reach, until fame and fortune suddenly hit them all at once from an unexpected source. That mirrors the real-life journey of Creator/TeamStarKid, who worked incredibly hard on this series only to watch it sink without a trace -- until it suddenly found an audience after their silly [[Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical Harry Potter parody]] went viral.
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** The whole joke with Meredith being InnocentlyInsensitive about the rumor Tanya started that Sami is going to come out as trans became this after Meredith Stepien came out as non-binary in RealLife in 2021.

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** The whole joke with Meredith being InnocentlyInsensitive about the rumor Tanya started that Sami is going to come out as trans became this after Meredith Stepien came out as non-binary in RealLife in 2021.2020.

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%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample * HoYay: Between Sami and Tanya.

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%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample ** The whole joke with Meredith being InnocentlyInsensitive about the rumor Tanya started that Sami is going to come out as trans became this after Meredith Stepien came out as non-binary in RealLife in 2021.
* HoYay: Between Sami and Tanya.Tanya, especially Tanya laying her hand on Sami's arm and Sami slapping it away with "Don't touch me."
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: This series now reads a lot like a love letter to UsefulNotes/The2000s: 2000s technology like flip phones, burning [=CDs=] and cheesy homemade websites figure prominently in the plot, and the fashion and music are a time capsule of {{Emo}} culture. (The Ex-Boyfriends as a parody of "whiny" emo tropes, whereas Little White Lie and "It's Over Now" are meant to be seen as a high-quality, genuine example.)
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* {{Wangst}}: The defining trope of The Ex-Boyfriends and their music. A TakeThat to 2000s {{Emo}}.
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** Tanya's relentlessly artificial persona may now be fully [[JustifiedTrope justified]] with the reveal that she's been following the instructions in Literature/TheBullyBook.

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* SpiritualSuccessor: Coming in June 2020 is a comedy series titled [[https://tvline.com/2019/07/10/darren-criss-quibi-series-royalties-cast-musical-comedy/ Royalties]] on the new streaming platform Quibi, which is similar in many ways to the idea Creator/TeamStarkid had when making this show (a sitcom-style format in a contemporary setting focused on the music industry), starring Creator/DarrenCriss and with the Creator/LangBrothers involved as writers behind the scenes. Darren has talked about it as a long-delayed culmination of their original plans in college.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: This series now reads a lot like a love letter to UsefulNotes/TheOughts: 2000s technology like flip phones, burning [=CDs=] and cheesy homemade websites figure prominently in the plot, and the fashion and music are a time capsule of {{Emo}} culture. (The Ex-Boyfriends as a parody of "whiny" emo tropes, whereas Little White Lie and "It's Over Now" are meant to be seen as a high-quality, genuine example.)

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: This series now reads a lot like a love letter to UsefulNotes/TheOughts: UsefulNotes/The2000s: 2000s technology like flip phones, burning [=CDs=] and cheesy homemade websites figure prominently in the plot, and the fashion and music are a time capsule of {{Emo}} culture. (The Ex-Boyfriends as a parody of "whiny" emo tropes, whereas Little White Lie and "It's Over Now" are meant to be seen as a high-quality, genuine example.)
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** Tanya's awkward dance moves would later go viral as part of the "I Don't Really Wanna Do the Work Today" dance from Theatre/{{Firebringer}}.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments: DesignatedHero and DesignatedVillain they might be, but the high-stakes race between Sami and Tanya--Sami trying to find and delete Kevin's website before Tanya finds it and discovers his music--is thrilling and full of tension.
** Out-of-universe, the SPACE Tour contains an epic moment where Creator/LaurenLopez and Brian Holden teased the possibility of Little White Lie Season 2 coming out in 2012... before definitively stating [[{{Troll}} it was not]] because "Little White Lie is over. It's over now" and then ''immediately'' segueing into [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome "It's Over Now"]].
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The "Duder the spy" song.
-->''Duder's a spyyyyyyyyy, Duder's a spyyyyyyyyy (Duder! Duder! Duder!)''
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "It's Over Now."
* CultClassic: The series was created in hopes of attracting industry attention and serving as a pilot for a full-length cable TV series -- a plan that, bluntly, failed miserably. Even the backup plan of securing sponsorship for another season as a short-form web series failed. When Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical was a surprise hit, Eric Kahn Gale describes ''begging'' Matt and Nick Lang to rerelease Little White Lie on their channel just so someone would see it and it wouldn't be AllForNothing. Lo and behold, the show has acquired a dedicated following among hardcore Starkid fans, with the cast expressing awe that there's now Little White Lie fanfiction and [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming huge cheers for the Little White Lie medley]] at live shows. Gale describes LWL's second life as tremendously gratifying, even if his response to requests for a Season 2 is [[RunningGag "It's over now"]].

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments: DesignatedHero and DesignatedVillain they might be, but the high-stakes race between Sami and Tanya--Sami trying to find and delete Kevin's website before Tanya finds it and discovers his music--is thrilling and full of tension.
** Out-of-universe, the SPACE Tour contains an epic moment where Creator/LaurenLopez and Brian Holden teased the possibility of Little White Lie Season 2 coming out in 2012... before definitively stating [[{{Troll}} it was not]] because "Little White Lie is over. It's over now" and then ''immediately'' segueing into [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome "It's Over Now"]].
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The "Duder the spy" song.
-->''Duder's a spyyyyyyyyy, Duder's a spyyyyyyyyy (Duder! Duder! Duder!)''
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "It's Over Now."
* CultClassic: The series was created in hopes of attracting industry attention and serving as a pilot for a full-length cable TV series -- a plan that, bluntly, failed miserably. Even the backup plan of securing sponsorship for another season as a short-form web series failed. When Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical was a surprise hit, Eric Kahn Gale describes ''begging'' Matt and Nick Lang to rerelease Little White Lie on their channel just so someone would see it and it wouldn't be AllForNothing. Lo and behold, the show has acquired a dedicated following among hardcore Starkid fans, with the cast expressing awe that there's now Little White Lie fanfiction and [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments huge cheers for the Little White Lie medley]] at live shows. Gale describes LWL's second life as tremendously gratifying, even if his response to requests for a Season 2 is [[RunningGag "It's over now"]].



* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: The "Duder the spy" song.
-->''Duder's a spyyyyyyyyy, Duder's a spyyyyyyyyy (Duder! Duder! Duder!)''



** Zach, played by Brian Holden, [[TechnologyMarchesOn complains about how time consuming it is to burn Little White Lie's promo CDs]]. In real life, Brian and the Langs decided it wasn't worth the effort to burn [=DVDs=] of Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical for the whole cast and decided to just upload the recording to YouTube instead. This random decision is the entire reason Creator/TeamStarkid now exists.

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** Zach, played by Brian Holden, [[TechnologyMarchesOn complains about how time consuming it is to burn Little White Lie's promo CDs]]. In real life, Brian and the Langs decided it wasn't worth the effort to burn [=DVDs=] of Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical for the whole cast and decided to just upload the recording to YouTube Website/YouTube instead. This random decision is the entire reason Creator/TeamStarkid now exists.



* LesYay : Between Sami and Tanya

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%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample * LesYay : HoYay: Between Sami and TanyaTanya.
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: DesignatedHero and DesignatedVillain they might be, but the high-stakes race between Sami and Tanya--Sami trying to find and delete Kevin's website before Tanya finds it and discovers his music--is thrilling and full of tension.
** Out-of-universe, the SPACE Tour contains an epic moment where Creator/LaurenLopez and Brian Holden teased the possibility of Little White Lie Season 2 coming out in 2012... before definitively stating [[{{Troll}} it was not]] because "Little White Lie is over. It's over now" and then ''immediately'' segueing into [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic "It's Over Now"]].



** Arguably Duder, he seems like a honestly decent kid who defers to his sister on what they should do, though he would rather quit and be honest more than once. His confession of his feelings for Tanya are heartfelt and sincere that he honestly likes her for who she is, not how popular she is with the "in crowd".

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** Arguably Duder, he seems like a honestly decent kid who defers to his sister on what they should do, though he would rather quit and be honest more than once. His confession of his feelings for Tanya are heartfelt and sincere that he honestly likes her for who she is, not how popular she is with the "in crowd".crowd".
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** Having a band and a song named "Love Grenade" was probably originally a reference to Music/TomJones' "Sexbomb", only for Music/TedNugent to actually drop an album with a title track called "Love Grenade" in 2007 (the same time this show went live).

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** Having a band and a song named "Love Grenade" was probably originally a reference to Music/TomJones' "Sexbomb", "Sex Bomb", only for Music/TedNugent to actually drop an album with a title track called "Love Grenade" in 2007 (the same time this show went live).
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** Having a band and a song named "Love Grenade" was probably originally a reference to Music/TomWaits' "Sexbomb", only for Music/TedNugent to actually drop an album with a title track called "Love Grenade" in 2007 (the same time this show went live).

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** Having a band and a song named "Love Grenade" was probably originally a reference to Music/TomWaits' Music/TomJones' "Sexbomb", only for Music/TedNugent to actually drop an album with a title track called "Love Grenade" in 2007 (the same time this show went live).
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** Having a band and a song named "Love Grenade" was probably originally a reference to Music/TomWaits' "Sexbomb", only for Music/TedNugent to actually drop an album with a title track called "Love Grenade" in 2007 (the same time this show went live).
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** Toby trying to break the ice with Sami backstage by pointing out they're both wearing ties got this reaction from people thanks to Blaine's signature suit-and-tie look on Series/{{Glee}} -- and thanks to the ThrowItIn "Fuck the tie!" moment in Theatre/AVeryPotterSeniorYear.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: This series now reads a lot like a love letter to UsefulNotes/TheOughts: 2000s technology like flip phones, burning CDs and cheesy homemade websites figure prominently in the plot, and the fashion and music are a time capsule of {{Emo}} culture. (The Ex-Boyfriends as a parody of "whiny" emo tropes, whereas Little White Lie and "It's Over Now" are meant to be seen as a high-quality, genuine example.)

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: This series now reads a lot like a love letter to UsefulNotes/TheOughts: 2000s technology like flip phones, burning CDs [=CDs=] and cheesy homemade websites figure prominently in the plot, and the fashion and music are a time capsule of {{Emo}} culture. (The Ex-Boyfriends as a parody of "whiny" emo tropes, whereas Little White Lie and "It's Over Now" are meant to be seen as a high-quality, genuine example.)
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: This series now reads a lot like a love letter to UsefulNotes/TheOughts: 2000s technology like flip phones, burning CDs and cheesy homemade websites figure prominently in the plot, and the fashion and music are a time capsule of {{Emo}} culture. (The Ex-Boyfriends as a parody of "whiny" emo tropes, whereas Little White Lie and "It's Over Now" are meant to be seen as a high-quality, genuine example.)
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** Tanya's relentlessly artificial persona may now be fully [[justified JustifiedTrope]] with the reveal that she's been following the instructions in Literature/TheBullyBook.

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** Tanya's relentlessly artificial persona may now be fully [[justified JustifiedTrope]] [[JustifiedTrope justified]] with the reveal that she's been following the instructions in Literature/TheBullyBook.
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* NarmCharm: Lauren Lopez's FakeCutie act as Tanya Freemont is exaggerated to the point of absurdity and comes across more as a TomBoy doing a mean impression of a GirlyGirl than realistic acting (even her CreepyHighPitchedVoice is clearly several tones higher than her natural speaking voice). It is, however, hilarious to watch -- Eric Kahn Gale admitted it was nothing like his impression of what an AlphaBitch should be like but rewrote Tanya's lines to fit Lauren's take because he enjoyed it so much. Arguably Tanya's obvious fakeness makes the glimpses we get BeneathTheMask that much stronger, especially Tanya's tearful rant at the end of the show where Lauren speaks in her own voice for the first time.
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* CultClassic: The series was created in hopes of attracting industry attention and serving as a pilot for a full-length cable TV series -- a plan that, bluntly, failed miserably. Even the backup plan of securing sponsorship for another season as a short-form web series failed. When Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical was a surprise hit, Eric Kahn Gale describes ''begging'' Matt and Nick Lang to rerelease Little White Lie on their channel just so someone would see it and it wouldn't be AllForNothing. Lo and behold, the show has acquired a dedicated following among hardcore Starkid fans, with the cast expressing awe that there's now Little White Lie fanfiction and [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming huge cheers for the Little White Lie medley]] at live shows. Gale describes LWL's second life as tremendously gratifying, even if his response to requests for a Season 2 is [[RunningGag "It's over now"]].
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** Zach, played by Brian Holden, [[TechnologyMarchesOn complains about how time consuming it is to burn Little White Lie's promo CDs]]. In real life, Brian and the Langs decided it wasn't worth the effort to burn [=DVDs=] of Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical and decided to just upload the recording to YouTube instead. This random decision is the entire reason Creator/TeamStarkid now exists.

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** Zach, played by Brian Holden, [[TechnologyMarchesOn complains about how time consuming it is to burn Little White Lie's promo CDs]]. In real life, Brian and the Langs decided it wasn't worth the effort to burn [=DVDs=] of Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical for the whole cast and decided to just upload the recording to YouTube instead. This random decision is the entire reason Creator/TeamStarkid now exists.
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** Zach, played by Brian Holden, [[TechnologyMarchesOn complains about how time consuming it is to burn Little White Lie's promo CDs]]. In real life, decided it wasn't worth the effort to burn [=DVDs=] of Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical and decided to just upload the recording to YouTube instead. This random decision is the entire reason Creator/TeamStarkid now exists.

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** Zach, played by Brian Holden, [[TechnologyMarchesOn complains about how time consuming it is to burn Little White Lie's promo CDs]]. In real life, Brian and the Langs decided it wasn't worth the effort to burn [=DVDs=] of Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical and decided to just upload the recording to YouTube instead. This random decision is the entire reason Creator/TeamStarkid now exists.
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** Zach, played by Brian Holden, [[TechnologyMarchesOn complains about how time consuming it is to burn Little White Lie's promo CDs]]. In real life, decided it wasn't worth the effort to burn DVDs of Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical and decided to just upload the recording to YouTube instead. This random decision is the entire reason Creator/TeamStarkid now exists.

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** Zach, played by Brian Holden, [[TechnologyMarchesOn complains about how time consuming it is to burn Little White Lie's promo CDs]]. In real life, decided it wasn't worth the effort to burn DVDs [=DVDs=] of Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical and decided to just upload the recording to YouTube instead. This random decision is the entire reason Creator/TeamStarkid now exists.
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** Duder, [[Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical like Ron]], believes that you shouldn't ever tell girls you like them, because it makes you look like an idiot.


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** Most of the future Starkid troupe members that appear here are in named speaking roles, but there's also a blink-and-you'll-miss-it appearance by Dylan Saunders as a random popular kid who yells "Hey, Duder!"
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** For Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical fans, the simple fact that this site features Harry and Draco in a SlapSlapKiss style romance. (And that Tanya is an archetypal DracoInLeatherPants.)

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** For Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical fans, the simple fact that this site show features Harry and Draco in a SlapSlapKiss style romance. (And that Tanya is an archetypal DracoInLeatherPants.)

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