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* IKnewIt: chapters 78 and 80 of the fanfic collection Fanfic/QuitePeculiar made up a two-part story arc called "Fit to Print". They were uploaded just weeks before the release of ''Goliath'', and made a spot-on prediction on how [[spoiler:Alek learns about Deryn's gender]] in the book: by [[spoiler:reading a newspaper article about her father's accident]].
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* TrailersAlwaysSpoil: It explicitly states in the blurb of ''Goliath'' that Alek finds out about Deryn's true identity, and that she's in love with him. It also refers to "true love with a commoner," leaving little question of whether or not he'll reciprocate her feelings. It's particularly interesting since Westerfeld has enough track record [[Literature/{{Uglies}} breaking up]] [[{{Midnighters}} his couples]] to create legitimate doubt in those who've read his other books.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: The flechette bats seem absurd (what's a dart going to do against a warship?), but they're actually based on real WWI-era aerial flechettes. These were simple steel darts dropped from aircraft (either dumped out of the aircraft with a bucket or released from special belly-mounted steel containers) that were scattered over enemy trenches and infantry formations to wreak havoc. When dropped from sufficient height, they hit with enough force to pierce a steel helmet and the skull beneath it, or even [[AgonyOfTheFeet nail soldiers' feet to the ground]]. There was even discussion of using larger flechettes to [[ArmorPiercingAttack penetrate the roof armor of tanks]]. KineticWeaponsAreJustBetter, indeed.
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!! Leviathan (Webcomic)
* BrokenBase: The series' switch to a webnovel format was contentious among readers. While some preferred the overall art-style of the webcomic format, other fans felt that the prose of the webnovel greatly benefitted the overall flow of the story.
* UnexpectedCharacter: ''Nobody'' was expecting [[spoiler:''[[VideoGame/LobotomyCorporation Schadenfreude]]'' of all abnormalities to make an appearance]].
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* BrokenBase: The series' switch to a webnovel format was contentious among readers. While some preferred the overall art-style of the webcomic format, other fans felt that the prose of the webnovel greatly benefitted the overall flow of the story.
* UnexpectedCharacter: ''Nobody'' was expecting [[spoiler:''[[VideoGame/LobotomyCorporation Schadenfreude]]'' of all abnormalities to make an appearance]].
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: '''Everything''', most have been recently labeling ''Scar Sighted'' as his best work.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: '''Everything''', most have been recently labeling ''Scar Sighted'' as his best work. work, although a majority of his albums such as ''The Tenth Sub-Level of Suicide'', ''Tentacles of Whorror'', and ''Massive Conspiracy Against All Life'' are considered this as well.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: ''A Silhouette in Splinters'', arguably due to it being Jef's experimental chance to dark ambient.
** Jef's secondary project Lurker of Chalice is this, due to being incredibly depressing and haunting, even ''more'' so than Leviathan.
** Jef's secondary project Lurker of Chalice is this, due to being incredibly depressing and haunting, even ''more'' so than Leviathan.
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** The majority of ''Massive Conspiracy Against All Life'' feels this way, especially considering it was essentially a [[GriefSong Grief Album]] about Whithead's deceased girlfriend, notably with the song "VI-XI-VI" being believed to be about her death (the Roman numerals being the date of her death) and being the only song off the record to not have its lyrics published.
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** The majority of ''Massive Conspiracy Against All Life'' feels this way, especially considering it was essentially a [[GriefSong Grief Album]] about Whithead's deceased girlfriend, notably with the song "VI-XI-VI" being believed to be about her death (the Roman numerals being the date of her death) and being the only song off the record to not have its lyrics published.published.
* ValuesDissonance: ''Tentacles of Whorror'' and ''True Traitor, True Whore'' can cause some to quirk eyebrows due to it's misogynistic lyrics. While ''Tentacles'' can be chalked up to shock value (as the title track and "The History of Rape" seemed to be the only songs that have those type of lyrics), ''True Traitor'' makes it clear it ''is'' all of that due to it's RealitySubtext.
* ValuesDissonance: ''Tentacles of Whorror'' and ''True Traitor, True Whore'' can cause some to quirk eyebrows due to it's misogynistic lyrics. While ''Tentacles'' can be chalked up to shock value (as the title track and "The History of Rape" seemed to be the only songs that have those type of lyrics), ''True Traitor'' makes it clear it ''is'' all of that due to it's RealitySubtext.
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* JerkAssWoobie: Jef for some fans. For one thing, you pity his problematic childhood and the loss of his girlfriend, but his standoffish personality (along with the accusations of assault by his other ex girlfriend ''with his tattoo tools'') will raise an eyebrow. It does end up being an EarnYourHappyEnding type deal when he got married and now is raising a baby girl and shows ''sprouts'' of happiness compared to the bleak tone of Leviathan.
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* JerkAssWoobie: Jef for some fans. For one thing, you pity his problematic Whitehead had a very rocky childhood and it's clear growing up was rough for him, with him mentioning once trying to kill himself during the loss ''Tenth Sub-Level'' / ''Tentacles'' era of Leviathan, adding to the tragedy of his deceased girlfriend, but who was his standoffish personality (along with muse for Lurker of Chalice. At the accusations same time of assault by course, the controversies surrounding him in 2011 really doesn't paint a good picture of him, even if he did clean up his other ex girlfriend ''with his tattoo tools'') will raise an eyebrow. It does end up being an EarnYourHappyEnding type deal when he got married and now is raising a baby girl and shows ''sprouts'' of happiness compared to act in the bleak tone of Leviathan.end.
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** The title track of ''Scar Sighted'' definitely counts. The instrumental sounds almost like a funeral dirge, and the vocals are mainly just tortured, agonized screams.
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** The title track of ''Scar Sighted'' definitely counts. The instrumental sounds almost like a funeral dirge, and the vocals are mainly just tortured, agonized screams.screams.
** The majority of ''Massive Conspiracy Against All Life'' feels this way, especially considering it was essentially a [[GriefSong Grief Album]] about Whithead's deceased girlfriend, notably with the song "VI-XI-VI" being believed to be about her death (the Roman numerals being the date of her death) and being the only song off the record to not have its lyrics published.
** The majority of ''Massive Conspiracy Against All Life'' feels this way, especially considering it was essentially a [[GriefSong Grief Album]] about Whithead's deceased girlfriend, notably with the song "VI-XI-VI" being believed to be about her death (the Roman numerals being the date of her death) and being the only song off the record to not have its lyrics published.
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* CrazyAwesome: Zaven. So much. Nikola Tesla is even crazier, and even more awesome.
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* CrazyAwesome: CrazyIsCool: Zaven. So much. Nikola Tesla is even crazier, and even more awesome.
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* BrokenBase: ''True Traitor, True Whore'' tends to be this for many people, if not helped due to the RealitySubtext over the allegations towards him by his ex-girlfriend. And even ''besides that'', most people find it very weak and underwhelming compared to the complex-like nature of ''Massive Conspiracy Against All Life''.
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* BaseBreaker: Jef himself, due to his criminal convictions and accusations of misogyny.
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* AwesomeArt: Keith Thompson's [[http://img.sparknotes.com/content/sparklife/sparktalk/2014/westerfeldarttime_LargeWide.jpg insanely gorgeous]] illustrations expertly depict BioPunk and steampunk TechnologyPorn in equal measure and are a major draw for fans.
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* AwesomeArt: SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Keith Thompson's [[http://img.sparknotes.com/content/sparklife/sparktalk/2014/westerfeldarttime_LargeWide.jpg insanely gorgeous]] illustrations expertly depict BioPunk and steampunk TechnologyPorn in equal measure and are a major draw for fans.
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* AwesomeArt: The album cover and supplementary artwork for ''Scar Sighted'', which [[TearJerker were made by Jef's girlfriend while she was dying of a brain tumor, and which he decided to keep.]]
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* AwesomeMusic: '''Everything''', most have been recently labeling ''Scar Sighted'' as his best work.
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* JerkAssWoobie: Jef for some fans. For one thing, you pity his problematic childhood and the loss of his girlfriend, but then you read about him assaulting his later girlfriend with ''his tattoo tools'' and raise an eyebrow. It does end up being an EarnYourHappyEnding type deal when he got married and now is raising a baby girl.
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* JerkAssWoobie: Jef for some fans. For one thing, you pity his problematic childhood and the loss of his girlfriend, but then you read about him assaulting his later standoffish personality (along with the accusations of assault by his other ex girlfriend with ''his ''with his tattoo tools'' and tools'') will raise an eyebrow. It does end up being an EarnYourHappyEnding type deal when he got married and now is raising a baby girl.girl and shows ''sprouts'' of happiness compared to the bleak tone of Leviathan.
--> ''I wanna see it in your face. I wanna see it in your eye. '''I wanna see it in your tears'''.''
** The chaotic atmosphere of the first two albums really add a sense of paranoia and sense of TheNothingAfterDeath in ''The Tenth Sub-Level'' and the hateful fury of ''Tentacles of Whorror''. Special points with songs such as "The Idiot Sun" and "Vexed and Vomit Hexed".
*** ''Even non-metal stuff is unnerving'', the hauntingly depressive tone of the Lurker of Chalice debut and ''A Silhouette in Splinters'' can give a creepy vibe.
** The chaotic atmosphere of the first two albums really add a sense of paranoia and sense of TheNothingAfterDeath in ''The Tenth Sub-Level'' and the hateful fury of ''Tentacles of Whorror''. Special points with songs such as "The Idiot Sun" and "Vexed and Vomit Hexed".
*** ''Even non-metal stuff is unnerving'', the hauntingly depressive tone of the Lurker of Chalice debut and ''A Silhouette in Splinters'' can give a creepy vibe.
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** When he talks about Lurker of Chalice and mentions that the project had a "muse", only to pause and simply say... "…she’s dead, so I don’t think Lurker will happen again…" before looking away in sadness.
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** When he talks about Lurker of Chalice and mentions that the project had a "muse", only to pause and simply say... "…she’s dead, so I don’t think Lurker will happen again…" before looking away in sadness. The doc even shows a scene where Jef's showing interviewer JR Robinson a sketch he did of Jesse, along with a newspaper clipping of her obituary. He then mentions to JR how Jesse used to leave him little drawings each time he'd leave to work, before uttering a small but quiet "I've saved them all", ''showing that he did save all her drawings''.
*** It goes more into TearJerker territory when one looks at Jesse's little drawings and notices ''they're all the supplementary album art for Scar Sighted''. Gives the album a much more saddening vibe.
*** It goes more into TearJerker territory when one looks at Jesse's little drawings and notices ''they're all the supplementary album art for Scar Sighted''. Gives the album a much more saddening vibe.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla]], to the surprise of exactly no one.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla]], [[UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla Nikola Tesla]], to the surprise of exactly no one.one who knows their history well.
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* AwesomeArt: Keith Thompson's [[http://img.sparknotes.com/content/sparklife/sparktalk/2014/westerfeldarttime_LargeWide.jpg insanely gorgeous]] illustrations expertly depict BioPunk and steampunk TechnologyPorn in equal measure and are a major draw for fans.
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* CrazyAwesome: Zaven. So much.
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* CrazyAwesome: Zaven. So much. Nikola Tesla is even crazier, and even more awesome.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla]], to the surprise of exactly no one.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla]], to the surprise of exactly no one.
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* TrailersAlwaysSpoil: It explicitly states in the blurb of ''Goliath'' that Alek finds out about Deryn's true identity, and that she's in love with him. It also refers to "true love with a commoner," leaving little question of whether or not he'll reciprocate her feelings. It's particularly interesting since Westerfeld has enough track record [[{{Uglies}} breaking up]] [[{{Midnighters}} his couples]] to create legitimate doubt in those who've read his other books.
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* TrailersAlwaysSpoil: It explicitly states in the blurb of ''Goliath'' that Alek finds out about Deryn's true identity, and that she's in love with him. It also refers to "true love with a commoner," leaving little question of whether or not he'll reciprocate her feelings. It's particularly interesting since Westerfeld has enough track record [[{{Uglies}} [[Literature/{{Uglies}} breaking up]] [[{{Midnighters}} his couples]] to create legitimate doubt in those who've read his other books.
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*** Lurker of Chalice's music also qualifies, considering how much more depressive it is than Leviathan. The intro to "Piercing Where They Might" and "Specter as Valkerie Is" are particularly sad.
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* AwesomeArt: The album cover and supplementary artwork for ''Scar Sighted'', which [[TearJerker were made by Jef's girlfriend while she was dying of a brain tumor, and which he decided to keep.]]
** The rest of his album covers could also qualify, particularly ''A Silhouette in Splinters.''
** The rest of his album covers could also qualify, particularly ''A Silhouette in Splinters.''
* BaseBreaker: Jef himself, due to his criminal convictions and accusations of misogyny.
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* JerkAssWoobie: Jef for some fans. For one thing, you pity his problematic childhood and the loss of his girlfriend, but then you read about him assaulting his later girlfriend with ''his tattoo tools'' you will raise an eyebrow. It does end up going to an EarnYourHappyEnding when he got married and now is raising a baby girl.
* NightmareFuel: Jef's screams are unnerving at best, the music is very disjointed and just uncomfortable. Makes you wonder what goes through his mind to write this type of stuff...
* NightmareFuel: Jef's screams are unnerving at best, the music is very disjointed and just uncomfortable. Makes you wonder what goes through his mind to write this type of stuff...
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* EpicRiff: He's more known for the atmosphere of his music, but he can still write some distinctive, memorable riffs when he wants to. "Aphonos" is a good example.
* JerkAssWoobie: Jef for some fans. For one thing, you pity his problematic childhood and the loss of his girlfriend, but then you read about him assaulting his later girlfriend with ''his tattoo tools''you will and raise an eyebrow. It does end up going to being an EarnYourHappyEnding type deal when he got married and now is raising a baby girl.
* NightmareFuel: Basically everything about his music, but ''especially'' his screams, which are just inhuman. Then there's the hateful, despairing, and disjointed tone of the music itself. It really isn't surprising when you learn about the dude's CreatorBreakdown.
** Again, his album covers. ''Tentacles of Whorror'' might be the worst one, because of how [[NightmareFace obscene]] it is.
** All of ''Scar Sighted'' is nightmarish, but the closing track, "Aphonos", might be one of the most apocalyptic, crushing things he's ever recorded. Between the brutalizing riff and Jef'sscreams are unnerving at best, the music is very disjointed and just uncomfortable. Makes you wonder what goes through his mind to write this type of stuff...tortured screams, it legitimately sounds like a nightmare. The haunting ambient outro doesn't help matters.
* JerkAssWoobie: Jef for some fans. For one thing, you pity his problematic childhood and the loss of his girlfriend, but then you read about him assaulting his later girlfriend with ''his tattoo tools''
* NightmareFuel: Basically everything about his music, but ''especially'' his screams, which are just inhuman. Then there's the hateful, despairing, and disjointed tone of the music itself. It really isn't surprising when you learn about the dude's CreatorBreakdown.
** Again, his album covers. ''Tentacles of Whorror'' might be the worst one, because of how [[NightmareFace obscene]] it is.
** All of ''Scar Sighted'' is nightmarish, but the closing track, "Aphonos", might be one of the most apocalyptic, crushing things he's ever recorded. Between the brutalizing riff and Jef's
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* MagnumOpus: Many fans would say ''The Tenth Sublevel of Suicide'' is his best album. Now that ''Scar Sighted'' is out, some are saying it's his best album to date.
