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* SeasonalRot: Mild case, but after Ernesto Acher left the group and the members inevitably became old, they started relying more and more on {{Recycled Script}}s than on completely new plays, and even when reusing older plays, they tend to be the same ones (partially justified because some of their plays required 6 members, making them impossible to reuse, at least until Rabinovich's death). The quality of their shows did not diminish, however, which prevents the group falling into FranchiseZombie.
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* SeasonalRot: Mild case, but after Ernesto Acher left the group and the members inevitably became old, they started relying more and more on {{Recycled Script}}s than on completely new plays, and even when reusing older plays, they tend to be the same ones (partially justified because some of their plays required 6 members, making them impossible to reuse, at least until Rabinovich's death).death; in other cases, the avoided works were very much only liked by Acher, but not by the rest, and given the acrimonious split they had little incentive to replay them). The quality of their shows did not diminish, however, which prevents the group falling into FranchiseZombie.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Sometimes literally: Núñez was clean-shaven at first, as well as Acher. Their most successful years came when they were both with beard and moustache, to the point of many fans being unable to recognize them in old photos or footage. Marcos Mundstock was also shaven for a little while, and his daughter reportedly forbids videos from that era being played at home as she finds him "ugly" that way.
** In fact, six out of seven official members (all but Gerardo) had both looks (clean shaven and with beard and moustache) at some point. Yes, even Carlos López Puccio had a short-lived beard for a few months!
** In fact, six out of seven official members (all but Gerardo) had both looks (clean shaven and with beard and moustache) at some point. Yes, even Carlos López Puccio had a short-lived beard for a few months!
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* GrowingTheBeard: Sometimes literally: Núñez was clean-shaven at first, as well as Acher. Their most successful years came when they were both with beard and moustache, to the point of many fans being unable to recognize them in old photos or footage. Marcos Mundstock was also shaven for a little while, and his daughter reportedly forbids videos from that era being played at home as she finds him "ugly" that way.
**way. In fact, six out of seven official members (all but Gerardo) had both looks (clean shaven and with beard and moustache) at some point. Yes, even Carlos López Puccio had a short-lived beard for a few months!
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* ActorAllusion: Occasional. For instance, Carlos Núñez Cortés sometimes 'plays' a concert pianist (which he is in 'real life') in the sketches. His less-than-desirable ability on guitar is also referenced in one number as well. And then again, jokes are made about Marcos Mundstock's age and Carlos López Puccio's white hair sometimes. Jorge Maronna's character in 'Bossa lividinosa' is called 'Jorginho da Bahia... da Bahia Blanca" (Bahía is a Brazilian town; Bahía Blanca is the Argentine town where Maronna was born).
* TheCastShowoff: Well... obviously, as they're all musicians ''and'' actors. However, there are some cases worth noting:
** In 1996 - 1999, there was a sketch concerning Daniel Rabinovich working at a 'Suicidal Assistance Centre'. Part of his job consisted of sorting out legal issues with the potential suicide, which he did perfectly, as if he were an actual certified lawyer. Well... he is!
** Though all five (in other times, six or even seven) of them can play piano well, one of them (Carlos Núñez Cortés) is a professional concert pianist, which has been used several times for mock concerti or otherwise elaborate piano parts with or without built-in comedy elements.
** 'Pepper Clemens sent the messenger, nevertheless the reverend left the herd' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTL2lbdMQXU) - It includes 5 minutes of hilarious acting followed by 7 minutes of the cast playing all sorts of instruments many of which are informal.
** Carlos López Puccio's a licensed orchestral conductor. As such, he's conducted (and sometimes scored) the orchestras for most of their studio albums as well as their legendary 1986 recital in Buenos Aires.
* CreativeDifferences: Ernesto Acher. (He preferred to emphasize music over humor, the exact opposite of the group's preference.)
** However, he was an excellent actor.
*** He IS an excellent actor.
** On a different (although sometimes related) note, many of their sketches have been 'killed' after a year or two because some of the members don't like them. That was the case, for instance, of 'La gallina dijo "Eureka"', ''very'' popular with the audience, but reportedly disliked by most of the group. It was only performed in 1979 and 1980 and never used as encore or in any of the several anthologies they've done. The fact its protagonist (and allegedly the only one who actually liked the sketch) quit the group in '86 doesn't help either...
** Their 1976-1985 manager also split with them, and it seems it wasn't too amicable to say the least.
* TheCastShowoff: Well... obviously, as they're all musicians ''and'' actors. However, there are some cases worth noting:
** In 1996 - 1999, there was a sketch concerning Daniel Rabinovich working at a 'Suicidal Assistance Centre'. Part of his job consisted of sorting out legal issues with the potential suicide, which he did perfectly, as if he were an actual certified lawyer. Well... he is!
** Though all five (in other times, six or even seven) of them can play piano well, one of them (Carlos Núñez Cortés) is a professional concert pianist, which has been used several times for mock concerti or otherwise elaborate piano parts with or without built-in comedy elements.
** 'Pepper Clemens sent the messenger, nevertheless the reverend left the herd' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTL2lbdMQXU) - It includes 5 minutes of hilarious acting followed by 7 minutes of the cast playing all sorts of instruments many of which are informal.
** Carlos López Puccio's a licensed orchestral conductor. As such, he's conducted (and sometimes scored) the orchestras for most of their studio albums as well as their legendary 1986 recital in Buenos Aires.
* CreativeDifferences: Ernesto Acher. (He preferred to emphasize music over humor, the exact opposite of the group's preference.)
** However, he was an excellent actor.
*** He IS an excellent actor.
** On a different (although sometimes related) note, many of their sketches have been 'killed' after a year or two because some of the members don't like them. That was the case, for instance, of 'La gallina dijo "Eureka"', ''very'' popular with the audience, but reportedly disliked by most of the group. It was only performed in 1979 and 1980 and never used as encore or in any of the several anthologies they've done. The fact its protagonist (and allegedly the only one who actually liked the sketch) quit the group in '86 doesn't help either...
** Their 1976-1985 manager also split with them, and it seems it wasn't too amicable to say the least.
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* IAmNotSpock: Though moderately successful as an orchestral conductor and arranger, Ernesto Acher still faces being typecast as a former member of Les Luthiers even though he hasn't been with them for over 24 years. Moreover, he tends to be remembered mostly as the actor who played "Don Rodrigo" and the ''kid'' from "La Gallina Dijo Eureka", which overlooks his enormous musical contributions to the group (a group that still plays several of his songs, by the way). When Marcos Mundstock has tried to have parallel stints as a serious presenter, he's failed miserably as people expect jokes to appear.
* PromotedFanboy: More often than one would think. They started off being four plus their 'luthier's luthier' (not officially a member). Then:
** Carlos Núñez Cortés, former groupmate in another music/humour team and longtime admirer of them, was called in 1969 to be their rehearsal conductor. He was then promoted to co-arranger, co-composer, co-performer and finally fellow member.
** Later on in 1970, Carlos López Puccio was promoted from fan to friend/consultant and then, due to a last-minute emergency (the violinist they hired quit), he was called in to step in as guest musician for a full season. Not only he learnt the repertoire in a day: the group members were so impressed that they made him partner in 1971.
** Ernesto Acher had seen Les Luthiers live and admired them deeply. He befriended them one summer and soon afterwards was invited to be a guest at one of their shows; later on, he became a hired musician / presenter / composer and finally (in 1971 as well as López Puccio) made partner. He'd continue with them until 1986.
** When their luthier's luthier, Carlos Iraldi, passed away, fellow instrument maker Hugo Domínguez, who'd admired the group for a while, wrote a letter offering his services. He's been their luthier's luthier since.
** For the last 15 years or so, they've hired understudies, who replace one of the members in case of disease or emergency. They've got a very tough job as they need to learn every vocal and instrumental part each member does ''just in case'', but it's not quite a struggle as most of them have been people who actually grew up listening to Les Luthiers.
* RecycledScript: Starting with ''Grandes Hitos'' and not counting [[CompilationRerelease anthologies]], shows reuse some plays from previous shows, and some of the new plays reuse scenes from older plays (for example, "Manuel Darío" is mostly based on the introduction of "El teléfono del amor", and "Juana Isabel" uses the same introduction as "El negro quiere bailar").
* RenaissanceMan: Arguably, all seven official members (including the one who resigned and the two who have died as of November 2015) would qualify. All but Marcos have demonstrated to be skilful at at least twenty different musical instruments (no exaggeration there!), and all seven of them were/are really good singers (they started off as a choir anyway), but besides:
** Ernesto Acher: Successful architect, extraordinary composer (he scored classical music, tangos, jazz, folk styles and even, with two of his then bandmates a bossa nova), excellent actor, also designed some of their instruments and after leaving the group has become a prolific conductor, arranger and university lecturer. He also manufactures batons and teaches foreign languages.
** Carlos López Puccio: Graduated as an orchestral conductor, also a very prestigious choirmaster, scripted quite a few of their jokes, composed many of their classical pieces, wrote lyrics for many popular ones (boleros, tangos, etc.), excellent actor (especially after Ernesto left, since some of his parts were given to him including the captain on ''Las majas del bergantín'').
** Jorge Maronna: Composer and arranger for 'serious' musicians (covering styles ranging from folk to classical), multi-instrumentalist, excellent singer (especially in the 70's, where he was a powerful baritone), has written quite a few humour books, co-scripted (and scored) a Colombian television programme, is an amateur photographer, experienced in Tai Chi... the only discipline he admitted having all but failed at was medicine, having dropped out of college when he, in his words, was just six years away from graduating. Jorge also invented the group's name.
** Gerardo Masana: He was a successful architect, invented many of the group's earliest instruments and pieces, was a natural leader and had all sorts of hobbies and interests which had gained the admiration of all his colleagues.
** Marcos Mundstock: Professional radio and television announcer, actor, copywriter, also contributed to the creation of some of the group's most famous instruments (he invented the first gom-horn and had the idea of adding the helmet to its third version), worked for a while as a professional lyrical tenor (the only member of the group to have had a 'serious' operatic role). He's also the group's chief lyric and script writer, having created the famous character of Mastropiero and many of the stories attributed to him.
** Carlos Núñez Cortés: Where to start? He graduated as a chemist and had quite a few successful years on that, is also a professional concert pianist (having performed many a classical concerto on and off the group), a published malacologist (zoologist specialised in molluscs), scored theatre plays and musicals and conducted choirs, has published linguistic analyses of the group's own texts, invented and/or built many of their instruments...
** Daniel Rabinovich: Graduated as a lawyer and having had a successful office for years until he quit to devote more time to Les Luthiers. He was also a prolific multi-instrumentalist, an extraordinary singer, an outstanding actor (not only with the group) and wrote quite a few books of fiction. It should say a lot that, after Rabinovich died, he was replaced by '''two''' people just to cover everything he did.
** Also worth praising are all their past and present substitutes: they've got to learn ''every'' part ''every'' member plays, sings, acts and says in ''every'' piece just in case ''any'' of the group members happens to miss out on a concert out of any number of reasons (illness, personal commitments, parallel projects). That includes learning specific parts on a lot of instruments, learning vocal lines in different ranges, even mimicking the gestures and reactions. They're deservedly well-appreciated for all their hard work.
* PromotedFanboy: More often than one would think. They started off being four plus their 'luthier's luthier' (not officially a member). Then:
** Carlos Núñez Cortés, former groupmate in another music/humour team and longtime admirer of them, was called in 1969 to be their rehearsal conductor. He was then promoted to co-arranger, co-composer, co-performer and finally fellow member.
** Later on in 1970, Carlos López Puccio was promoted from fan to friend/consultant and then, due to a last-minute emergency (the violinist they hired quit), he was called in to step in as guest musician for a full season. Not only he learnt the repertoire in a day: the group members were so impressed that they made him partner in 1971.
** Ernesto Acher had seen Les Luthiers live and admired them deeply. He befriended them one summer and soon afterwards was invited to be a guest at one of their shows; later on, he became a hired musician / presenter / composer and finally (in 1971 as well as López Puccio) made partner. He'd continue with them until 1986.
** When their luthier's luthier, Carlos Iraldi, passed away, fellow instrument maker Hugo Domínguez, who'd admired the group for a while, wrote a letter offering his services. He's been their luthier's luthier since.
** For the last 15 years or so, they've hired understudies, who replace one of the members in case of disease or emergency. They've got a very tough job as they need to learn every vocal and instrumental part each member does ''just in case'', but it's not quite a struggle as most of them have been people who actually grew up listening to Les Luthiers.
* RecycledScript: Starting with ''Grandes Hitos'' and not counting [[CompilationRerelease anthologies]], shows reuse some plays from previous shows, and some of the new plays reuse scenes from older plays (for example, "Manuel Darío" is mostly based on the introduction of "El teléfono del amor", and "Juana Isabel" uses the same introduction as "El negro quiere bailar").
* RenaissanceMan: Arguably, all seven official members (including the one who resigned and the two who have died as of November 2015) would qualify. All but Marcos have demonstrated to be skilful at at least twenty different musical instruments (no exaggeration there!), and all seven of them were/are really good singers (they started off as a choir anyway), but besides:
** Ernesto Acher: Successful architect, extraordinary composer (he scored classical music, tangos, jazz, folk styles and even, with two of his then bandmates a bossa nova), excellent actor, also designed some of their instruments and after leaving the group has become a prolific conductor, arranger and university lecturer. He also manufactures batons and teaches foreign languages.
** Carlos López Puccio: Graduated as an orchestral conductor, also a very prestigious choirmaster, scripted quite a few of their jokes, composed many of their classical pieces, wrote lyrics for many popular ones (boleros, tangos, etc.), excellent actor (especially after Ernesto left, since some of his parts were given to him including the captain on ''Las majas del bergantín'').
** Jorge Maronna: Composer and arranger for 'serious' musicians (covering styles ranging from folk to classical), multi-instrumentalist, excellent singer (especially in the 70's, where he was a powerful baritone), has written quite a few humour books, co-scripted (and scored) a Colombian television programme, is an amateur photographer, experienced in Tai Chi... the only discipline he admitted having all but failed at was medicine, having dropped out of college when he, in his words, was just six years away from graduating. Jorge also invented the group's name.
** Gerardo Masana: He was a successful architect, invented many of the group's earliest instruments and pieces, was a natural leader and had all sorts of hobbies and interests which had gained the admiration of all his colleagues.
** Marcos Mundstock: Professional radio and television announcer, actor, copywriter, also contributed to the creation of some of the group's most famous instruments (he invented the first gom-horn and had the idea of adding the helmet to its third version), worked for a while as a professional lyrical tenor (the only member of the group to have had a 'serious' operatic role). He's also the group's chief lyric and script writer, having created the famous character of Mastropiero and many of the stories attributed to him.
** Carlos Núñez Cortés: Where to start? He graduated as a chemist and had quite a few successful years on that, is also a professional concert pianist (having performed many a classical concerto on and off the group), a published malacologist (zoologist specialised in molluscs), scored theatre plays and musicals and conducted choirs, has published linguistic analyses of the group's own texts, invented and/or built many of their instruments...
** Daniel Rabinovich: Graduated as a lawyer and having had a successful office for years until he quit to devote more time to Les Luthiers. He was also a prolific multi-instrumentalist, an extraordinary singer, an outstanding actor (not only with the group) and wrote quite a few books of fiction. It should say a lot that, after Rabinovich died, he was replaced by '''two''' people just to cover everything he did.
** Also worth praising are all their past and present substitutes: they've got to learn ''every'' part ''every'' member plays, sings, acts and says in ''every'' piece just in case ''any'' of the group members happens to miss out on a concert out of any number of reasons (illness, personal commitments, parallel projects). That includes learning specific parts on a lot of instruments, learning vocal lines in different ranges, even mimicking the gestures and reactions. They're deservedly well-appreciated for all their hard work.
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* UnwantedAssistance: in "Daniel y el Señor", God (Marcos Mundstock) tries to fulfill Daniel's wishes by killing the Philistines besieging his city. The first time, he destroys Daniel's army. The second time, his arm gets stuck and he accidentally destroys the city walls. He tries for a third time...
--->'''Daniel Rabinovich:''' ¡Eh, eh, pará con la boleadora! (Hey, hey, stop the bolas!)''[[note]]God is moving his arm as if he were throwing the bolas[[/note]]''
--->'''Daniel Rabinovich:''' ¡Eh, eh, pará con la boleadora! (Hey, hey, stop the bolas!)''[[note]]God is moving his arm as if he were throwing the bolas[[/note]]''
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* SeasonalRot: Mild case, but after Ernesto Acher left the group and the members inevitably became old, they started relying more and more on {{Recycled Script}}s than on completely new plays, and even when reusing older plays, they tend to be the same ones (partially {{justified|trope}} because some of their plays required 6 members, making them impossible to reuse, at least until Rabinovich's death). The quality of their shows did not diminish, however, which prevents the group falling into FranchiseZombie.
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* SeasonalRot: Mild case, but after Ernesto Acher left the group and the members inevitably became old, they started relying more and more on {{Recycled Script}}s than on completely new plays, and even when reusing older plays, they tend to be the same ones (partially {{justified|trope}} justified because some of their plays required 6 members, making them impossible to reuse, at least until Rabinovich's death). The quality of their shows did not diminish, however, which prevents the group falling into FranchiseZombie.
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--->'''Daniel Rabinovich:''' ¡Eh, eh, pará con la boleadora! (Hey, hey, stop the bolas!)''[[note]]God is moving his arm as if he were throwing the bolas[[/note]]''bolas[[/note]]''
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* HilariousInHindsight:
** In "Cantata del Adelantado Don Rodrigo Díaz de Carreras", in one point where Don Rodrigo and the narrator argue, Don Rodrigo says he doesn't argue with "aficionades". Upon the narrator correcting him by saying it's "aficionados"[[note]]amateurs[[/note]], although Don Rodrigo says he pronounced it incorrectly as it would rhyme with "verdades"[[note]]truths[[/note]]. Almost 40 years later after this was first played, "aficionades" would perfectly fit into an attempt to introduce a new gender-neutral speech form in spanish (using the letter "e" instead of the masculine "o" and the feminine "a").
** The ''Chist!'' version of "La Comisión" adds several off-hand comments by Rabinovich's character in that he often takes all the money he gets and stores it in off-shore accounts somewhere else in the world. While this situation was not exactly unknown for by the time this version was played, a few years later, a new scandal about off-shore accounts in Panama was revealed to the public... giving this version of "La Comisión" a hilariously prophetic light.
** In "Cantata del Adelantado Don Rodrigo Díaz de Carreras", in one point where Don Rodrigo and the narrator argue, Don Rodrigo says he doesn't argue with "aficionades". Upon the narrator correcting him by saying it's "aficionados"[[note]]amateurs[[/note]], although Don Rodrigo says he pronounced it incorrectly as it would rhyme with "verdades"[[note]]truths[[/note]]. Almost 40 years later after this was first played, "aficionades" would perfectly fit into an attempt to introduce a new gender-neutral speech form in spanish (using the letter "e" instead of the masculine "o" and the feminine "a").
** The ''Chist!'' version of "La Comisión" adds several off-hand comments by Rabinovich's character in that he often takes all the money he gets and stores it in off-shore accounts somewhere else in the world. While this situation was not exactly unknown for by the time this version was played, a few years later, a new scandal about off-shore accounts in Panama was revealed to the public... giving this version of "La Comisión" a hilariously prophetic light.
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** Also worth praising are all their past and present substitutes: they've got to learn ''every'' part ''every'' member plays, sings, acts and says in ''every'' piece just in case ''any'' of the group members happens to miss out on a concert out of any number of reasons (illness, personal commitments, parallel projects). That includes learning specific parts on a lot of instruments, learning vocal lines in different ranges, even mimicking the gestures and reactions. They're deservedly well-appreciated for all their hard work.
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* RecycledScript: Starting with ''Grandes Hitos'' and not counting [[CompilationRerelease anthologies]], shows reuse some plays from previous shows, and some of the new plays reuse scenes from older plays (for example, "Manuel Darío" is mostly based on the introduction of "El teléfono del amor", and "Juana Isabel" uses the same introduction as "El negro quiere bailar").
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** Daniel Rabinovich: Graduated as a lawyer and having had a successful office for years until he quit to devote more time to Les Luthiers. He was also a prolific multi-instrumentalist, an extraordinary singer, an outstanding actor (not only with the group) and wrote quite a few books of fiction.
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** Daniel Rabinovich: Graduated as a lawyer and having had a successful office for years until he quit to devote more time to Les Luthiers. He was also a prolific multi-instrumentalist, an extraordinary singer, an outstanding actor (not only with the group) and wrote quite a few books of fiction. It should say a lot that, after Rabinovich died, he was replaced by '''two''' people just to cover everything he did.
* SeasonalRot: Mild case, but after Ernesto Acher left the group and the members inevitably became old, they started relying more and more on {{Recycled Script}}s than on completely new plays, and even when reusing older plays, they tend to be the same ones (partially {{justified|trope}} because some of their plays required 6 members, making them impossible to reuse, at least until Rabinovich's death). The quality of their shows did not diminish, however, which prevents the group falling into FranchiseZombie.
* SeasonalRot: Mild case, but after Ernesto Acher left the group and the members inevitably became old, they started relying more and more on {{Recycled Script}}s than on completely new plays, and even when reusing older plays, they tend to be the same ones (partially {{justified|trope}} because some of their plays required 6 members, making them impossible to reuse, at least until Rabinovich's death). The quality of their shows did not diminish, however, which prevents the group falling into FranchiseZombie.
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* StopHelpingMe: in "Daniel y el Señor", God (Marcos Mundstock) tries to fulfill Daniel's wishes by killing the Philistines besieging his city. The first time, he destroys Daniel's army. The second time, his arm gets stuck and he accidentally destroys the city walls. He tries for a third time...
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* StopHelpingMe: UnwantedAssistance: in "Daniel y el Señor", God (Marcos Mundstock) tries to fulfill Daniel's wishes by killing the Philistines besieging his city. The first time, he destroys Daniel's army. The second time, his arm gets stuck and he accidentally destroys the city walls. He tries for a third time...
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** In fact, six out of seven official members (all but Gerardo) had both looks (clean shaven and with beard and moustache) at some point. Yes, even Carlos López Puccio had a short-lived beard for a few months!
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** Daniel Rabinovich: Graduated as a lawyer and having had a successful office for years until he quit to devote more time to Les Luthiers.
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** Daniel Rabinovich: Graduated as a lawyer and having had a successful office for years until he quit to devote more time to Les Luthiers. He was also a prolific multi-instrumentalist, an extraordinary singer, an outstanding actor (not only with the group) and wrote quite a few books of fiction.
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* RenaissanceMan: Arguably, all seven official members (including the one who resigned and the two who have died as of November 2015) would qualify. All but Marcos have demonstrated to be skilful at at least twenty different musical instruments (no exaggeration there!), and all seven of them were/are really good singers (they started off as a choir anyway), but besides:
** Ernesto Acher: Successful architect, extraordinary composer (he scored classical music, tangos, jazz, folk styles and even, with two of his then bandmates a bossa nova), excellent actor, also designed some of their instruments and after leaving the group has become a prolific conductor, arranger and university lecturer. He also manufactures batons and teaches foreign languages.
** Carlos López Puccio: Graduated as an orchestral conductor, also a very prestigious choirmaster, scripted quite a few of their jokes, composed many of their classical pieces, wrote lyrics for many popular ones (boleros, tangos, etc.), excellent actor (especially after Ernesto left, since some of his parts were given to him including the captain on ''Las majas del bergantín'').
** Jorge Maronna: Composer and arranger for 'serious' musicians (covering styles ranging from folk to classical), multi-instrumentalist, excellent singer (especially in the 70's, where he was a powerful baritone), has written quite a few humour books, co-scripted (and scored) a Colombian television programme, is an amateur photographer, experienced in Tai Chi... the only discipline he admitted having all but failed at was medicine, having dropped out of college when he, in his words, was just six years away from graduating. Jorge also invented the group's name.
** Gerardo Masana: He was a successful architect, invented many of the group's earliest instruments and pieces, was a natural leader and had all sorts of hobbies and interests which had gained the admiration of all his colleagues.
** Marcos Mundstock: Professional radio and television announcer, actor, copywriter, also contributed to the creation of some of the group's most famous instruments (he invented the first gom-horn and had the idea of adding the helmet to its third version), worked for a while as a professional lyrical tenor (the only member of the group to have had a 'serious' operatic role). He's also the group's chief lyric and script writer, having created the famous character of Mastropiero and many of the stories attributed to him.
** Carlos Núñez Cortés: Where to start? He graduated as a chemist and had quite a few successful years on that, is also a professional concert pianist (having performed many a classical concerto on and off the group), a published malacologist (zoologist specialised in molluscs), scored theatre plays and musicals and conducted choirs, has published linguistic analyses of the group's own texts, invented and/or built many of their instruments...
** Daniel Rabinovich: Graduated as a lawyer and having had a successful office for years until he quit to devote more time to Les Luthiers.
** Ernesto Acher: Successful architect, extraordinary composer (he scored classical music, tangos, jazz, folk styles and even, with two of his then bandmates a bossa nova), excellent actor, also designed some of their instruments and after leaving the group has become a prolific conductor, arranger and university lecturer. He also manufactures batons and teaches foreign languages.
** Carlos López Puccio: Graduated as an orchestral conductor, also a very prestigious choirmaster, scripted quite a few of their jokes, composed many of their classical pieces, wrote lyrics for many popular ones (boleros, tangos, etc.), excellent actor (especially after Ernesto left, since some of his parts were given to him including the captain on ''Las majas del bergantín'').
** Jorge Maronna: Composer and arranger for 'serious' musicians (covering styles ranging from folk to classical), multi-instrumentalist, excellent singer (especially in the 70's, where he was a powerful baritone), has written quite a few humour books, co-scripted (and scored) a Colombian television programme, is an amateur photographer, experienced in Tai Chi... the only discipline he admitted having all but failed at was medicine, having dropped out of college when he, in his words, was just six years away from graduating. Jorge also invented the group's name.
** Gerardo Masana: He was a successful architect, invented many of the group's earliest instruments and pieces, was a natural leader and had all sorts of hobbies and interests which had gained the admiration of all his colleagues.
** Marcos Mundstock: Professional radio and television announcer, actor, copywriter, also contributed to the creation of some of the group's most famous instruments (he invented the first gom-horn and had the idea of adding the helmet to its third version), worked for a while as a professional lyrical tenor (the only member of the group to have had a 'serious' operatic role). He's also the group's chief lyric and script writer, having created the famous character of Mastropiero and many of the stories attributed to him.
** Carlos Núñez Cortés: Where to start? He graduated as a chemist and had quite a few successful years on that, is also a professional concert pianist (having performed many a classical concerto on and off the group), a published malacologist (zoologist specialised in molluscs), scored theatre plays and musicals and conducted choirs, has published linguistic analyses of the group's own texts, invented and/or built many of their instruments...
** Daniel Rabinovich: Graduated as a lawyer and having had a successful office for years until he quit to devote more time to Les Luthiers.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Sometimes literally: Núñez was clean-shaven at first, as well as Acher. Their most successful years came when they were both with beard and moustache, to the point of many fans being unable to recognize them in old photos or footage. Marcos Mundstock was also shaven for a little while, and his daughter reportedly forbids videos from that era being played at home as she finds him "ugly" that way.* IAmNotSpock: Though moderately successful as an orchestral conductor and arranger, Ernesto Acher still faces being typecast as a former member of Les Luthiers even though he hasn't been with them for over 24 years. Moreover, he tends to be remembered mostly as the actor who played "Don Rodrigo" and the ''kid'' from "La Gallina Dijo Eureka", which overlooks his enormous musical contributions to the group (a group that still plays several of his songs, by the way). When Marcos Mundstock has tried to have parallel stints as a serious presenter, he's failed miserably as people expect jokes to appear.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Sometimes literally: Núñez was clean-shaven at first, as well as Acher. Their most successful years came when they were both with beard and moustache, to the point of many fans being unable to recognize them in old photos or footage. Marcos Mundstock was also shaven for a little while, and his daughter reportedly forbids videos from that era being played at home as she finds him "ugly" that way.way.
* IAmNotSpock: Though moderately successful as an orchestral conductor and arranger, Ernesto Acher still faces being typecast as a former member of Les Luthiers even though he hasn't been with them for over 24 years. Moreover, he tends to be remembered mostly as the actor who played "Don Rodrigo" and the ''kid'' from "La Gallina Dijo Eureka", which overlooks his enormous musical contributions to the group (a group that still plays several of his songs, by the way). When Marcos Mundstock has tried to have parallel stints as a serious presenter, he's failed miserably as people expect jokes to appear.
* IAmNotSpock: Though moderately successful as an orchestral conductor and arranger, Ernesto Acher still faces being typecast as a former member of Les Luthiers even though he hasn't been with them for over 24 years. Moreover, he tends to be remembered mostly as the actor who played "Don Rodrigo" and the ''kid'' from "La Gallina Dijo Eureka", which overlooks his enormous musical contributions to the group (a group that still plays several of his songs, by the way). When Marcos Mundstock has tried to have parallel stints as a serious presenter, he's failed miserably as people expect jokes to appear.
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* ActorAllusion: Occasional. For instance, Carlos Núñez Cortés sometimes 'plays' a concert pianist (which he is in 'real life') in the sketches. His less-than-desirable ability on guitar is also referenced in one number as well. And then again, jokes are made about Marcos Mundstock's age and Carlos López Puccio's white hair sometimes. Jorge Maronna's character in 'Bossa lividinosa' is called 'Jorginho da Bahia... da Bahia Blanca" (Bahía is a Brazilian town; Bahía Blanca is the Argentine town where Maronna was born).
* TheCastShowoff: Well... obviously, as they're all musicians ''and'' actors. However, there are some cases worth noting:
** In 1996 - 1999, there was a sketch concerning Daniel Rabinovich working at a 'Suicidal Assistance Centre'. Part of his job consisted of sorting out legal issues with the potential suicide, which he did perfectly, as if he were an actual certified lawyer. Well... he is!
** Though all five (in other times, six or even seven) of them can play piano well, one of them (Carlos Núñez Cortés) is a professional concert pianist, which has been used several times for mock concerti or otherwise elaborate piano parts with or without built-in comedy elements.
** 'Pepper Clemens sent the messenger, nevertheless the reverend left the herd' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTL2lbdMQXU) - It includes 5 minutes of hilarious acting followed by 7 minutes of the cast playing all sorts of instruments many of which are informal.
** Carlos López Puccio's a licensed orchestral conductor. As such, he's conducted (and sometimes scored) the orchestras for most of their studio albums as well as their legendary 1986 recital in Buenos Aires.
* CreativeDifferences: Ernesto Acher. (He preferred to emphasize music over humor, the exact opposite of the group's preference.)
** However, he was an excellent actor.
*** He IS an excellent actor.
** On a different (although sometimes related) note, many of their sketches have been 'killed' after a year or two because some of the members don't like them. That was the case, for instance, of 'La gallina dijo "Eureka"', ''very'' popular with the audience, but reportedly disliked by most of the group. It was only performed in 1979 and 1980 and never used as encore or in any of the several anthologies they've done. The fact its protagonist (and allegedly the only one who actually liked the sketch) quit the group in '86 doesn't help either...
** Their 1976-1985 manager also split with them, and it seems it wasn't too amicable to say the least.
* GrowingTheBeard: Sometimes literally: Núñez was clean-shaven at first, as well as Acher. Their most successful years came when they were both with beard and moustache, to the point of many fans being unable to recognize them in old photos or footage. Marcos Mundstock was also shaven for a little while, and his daughter reportedly forbids videos from that era being played at home as she finds him "ugly" that way.* IAmNotSpock: Though moderately successful as an orchestral conductor and arranger, Ernesto Acher still faces being typecast as a former member of Les Luthiers even though he hasn't been with them for over 24 years. Moreover, he tends to be remembered mostly as the actor who played "Don Rodrigo" and the ''kid'' from "La Gallina Dijo Eureka", which overlooks his enormous musical contributions to the group (a group that still plays several of his songs, by the way). When Marcos Mundstock has tried to have parallel stints as a serious presenter, he's failed miserably as people expect jokes to appear.
* PromotedFanboy: More often than one would think. They started off being four plus their 'luthier's luthier' (not officially a member). Then:
** Carlos Núñez Cortés, former groupmate in another music/humour team and longtime admirer of them, was called in 1969 to be their rehearsal conductor. He was then promoted to co-arranger, co-composer, co-performer and finally fellow member.
** Later on in 1970, Carlos López Puccio was promoted from fan to friend/consultant and then, due to a last-minute emergency (the violinist they hired quit), he was called in to step in as guest musician for a full season. Not only he learnt the repertoire in a day: the group members were so impressed that they made him partner in 1971.
** Ernesto Acher had seen Les Luthiers live and admired them deeply. He befriended them one summer and soon afterwards was invited to be a guest at one of their shows; later on, he became a hired musician / presenter / composer and finally (in 1971 as well as López Puccio) made partner. He'd continue with them until 1986.
** When their luthier's luthier, Carlos Iraldi, passed away, fellow instrument maker Hugo Domínguez, who'd admired the group for a while, wrote a letter offering his services. He's been their luthier's luthier since.
** For the last 15 years or so, they've hired understudies, who replace one of the members in case of disease or emergency. They've got a very tough job as they need to learn every vocal and instrumental part each member does ''just in case'', but it's not quite a struggle as most of them have been people who actually grew up listening to Les Luthiers.
* StopHelpingMe: in "Daniel y el Señor", God (Marcos Mundstock) tries to fulfill Daniel's wishes by killing the Philistines besieging his city. The first time, he destroys Daniel's army. The second time, his arm gets stuck and he accidentally destroys the city walls. He tries for a third time...
--->'''Daniel Rabinovich:''' ¡Eh, eh, pará con la boleadora! (Hey, hey, stop the bolas!)''[[note]]God is moving his arm as if he were throwing the bolas[[/note]]''
* TheCastShowoff: Well... obviously, as they're all musicians ''and'' actors. However, there are some cases worth noting:
** In 1996 - 1999, there was a sketch concerning Daniel Rabinovich working at a 'Suicidal Assistance Centre'. Part of his job consisted of sorting out legal issues with the potential suicide, which he did perfectly, as if he were an actual certified lawyer. Well... he is!
** Though all five (in other times, six or even seven) of them can play piano well, one of them (Carlos Núñez Cortés) is a professional concert pianist, which has been used several times for mock concerti or otherwise elaborate piano parts with or without built-in comedy elements.
** 'Pepper Clemens sent the messenger, nevertheless the reverend left the herd' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTL2lbdMQXU) - It includes 5 minutes of hilarious acting followed by 7 minutes of the cast playing all sorts of instruments many of which are informal.
** Carlos López Puccio's a licensed orchestral conductor. As such, he's conducted (and sometimes scored) the orchestras for most of their studio albums as well as their legendary 1986 recital in Buenos Aires.
* CreativeDifferences: Ernesto Acher. (He preferred to emphasize music over humor, the exact opposite of the group's preference.)
** However, he was an excellent actor.
*** He IS an excellent actor.
** On a different (although sometimes related) note, many of their sketches have been 'killed' after a year or two because some of the members don't like them. That was the case, for instance, of 'La gallina dijo "Eureka"', ''very'' popular with the audience, but reportedly disliked by most of the group. It was only performed in 1979 and 1980 and never used as encore or in any of the several anthologies they've done. The fact its protagonist (and allegedly the only one who actually liked the sketch) quit the group in '86 doesn't help either...
** Their 1976-1985 manager also split with them, and it seems it wasn't too amicable to say the least.
* GrowingTheBeard: Sometimes literally: Núñez was clean-shaven at first, as well as Acher. Their most successful years came when they were both with beard and moustache, to the point of many fans being unable to recognize them in old photos or footage. Marcos Mundstock was also shaven for a little while, and his daughter reportedly forbids videos from that era being played at home as she finds him "ugly" that way.* IAmNotSpock: Though moderately successful as an orchestral conductor and arranger, Ernesto Acher still faces being typecast as a former member of Les Luthiers even though he hasn't been with them for over 24 years. Moreover, he tends to be remembered mostly as the actor who played "Don Rodrigo" and the ''kid'' from "La Gallina Dijo Eureka", which overlooks his enormous musical contributions to the group (a group that still plays several of his songs, by the way). When Marcos Mundstock has tried to have parallel stints as a serious presenter, he's failed miserably as people expect jokes to appear.
* PromotedFanboy: More often than one would think. They started off being four plus their 'luthier's luthier' (not officially a member). Then:
** Carlos Núñez Cortés, former groupmate in another music/humour team and longtime admirer of them, was called in 1969 to be their rehearsal conductor. He was then promoted to co-arranger, co-composer, co-performer and finally fellow member.
** Later on in 1970, Carlos López Puccio was promoted from fan to friend/consultant and then, due to a last-minute emergency (the violinist they hired quit), he was called in to step in as guest musician for a full season. Not only he learnt the repertoire in a day: the group members were so impressed that they made him partner in 1971.
** Ernesto Acher had seen Les Luthiers live and admired them deeply. He befriended them one summer and soon afterwards was invited to be a guest at one of their shows; later on, he became a hired musician / presenter / composer and finally (in 1971 as well as López Puccio) made partner. He'd continue with them until 1986.
** When their luthier's luthier, Carlos Iraldi, passed away, fellow instrument maker Hugo Domínguez, who'd admired the group for a while, wrote a letter offering his services. He's been their luthier's luthier since.
** For the last 15 years or so, they've hired understudies, who replace one of the members in case of disease or emergency. They've got a very tough job as they need to learn every vocal and instrumental part each member does ''just in case'', but it's not quite a struggle as most of them have been people who actually grew up listening to Les Luthiers.
* StopHelpingMe: in "Daniel y el Señor", God (Marcos Mundstock) tries to fulfill Daniel's wishes by killing the Philistines besieging his city. The first time, he destroys Daniel's army. The second time, his arm gets stuck and he accidentally destroys the city walls. He tries for a third time...
--->'''Daniel Rabinovich:''' ¡Eh, eh, pará con la boleadora! (Hey, hey, stop the bolas!)''[[note]]God is moving his arm as if he were throwing the bolas[[/note]]''
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* {{Flanderization}}: Daniel Rabinovich in particular.
** In ''Mastropiero que nunca'', Mastropiero was a compositor with plenty of anecdotes a small quantity of them were {{Take That}}s to him. FastForward to Lutherapia and the whole show is about making fun of Mastropiero's many flaws, including plagiarizing the auto-biography from another compositor.
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** In ''Mastropiero que nunca'', Mastropiero was a compositor with plenty of anecdotes a small quantity of them were {{Take That}}s to him. FastForward to Lutherapia and the whole show is about making fun of Mastropiero's many flaws, including plagiarizing the auto-biography from another compositor.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Sometimes literally: Núñez was clean-shaven at first, as well as Acher. Their most successful years came when they were both with beard and moustache, to the point of many fans being unable to recognize them in old photos or footage. Marcos Mundstock was also shaven for a little while, and his daughter reportedly forbids videos from that era being played at home as she finds him "ugly" that way.
* {{Flanderization}}: Daniel Rabinovich in particular.
** In ''Mastropiero que nunca'', Mastropiero was a compositor with plenty of anecdotes a small quantity of them were {{Take That}}s to him. FastForward to Lutherapia and the whole show is about making fun of Mastropiero's many flaws, including plagiarizing the auto-biography from another compositor.way.
* {{Flanderization}}: Daniel Rabinovich in particular.
** In ''Mastropiero que nunca'', Mastropiero was a compositor with plenty of anecdotes a small quantity of them were {{Take That}}s to him. FastForward to Lutherapia and the whole show is about making fun of Mastropiero's many flaws, including plagiarizing the auto-biography from another compositor.
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** In ''Mastropiero que nunca'', Mastropiero was a compositor with plenty of anecdotes a small quantity of them were TakeThats {{Take That}}s to him. FastForward to Lutherapia and the whole show is about making fun of Mastropiero's many flaws, including plagiarizing the auto-biography from another compositor.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Sometimes literally: Núñez was clean-shaven at first, as well as Acher. Their most successful years came when they were both with beard and moustache, to the point of many fans being unable to recognize them in old photos or footage. Marcos Mundstock was also shaven for a little while, and his daughter reportedly forbids videos from that era being played at home as she finds him "ugly" that way.way.
* Flanderization: Daniel Rabinovich in particular.
** In ''Mastropiero que nunca'', Mastropiero was a compositor with plenty of anecdotes a small quantity of them were TakeThats to him. FastForward to Lutherapia and the whole show is about making fun of Mastropiero's many flaws, including plagiarizing the auto-biography from another compositor.
* Flanderization: Daniel Rabinovich in particular.
** In ''Mastropiero que nunca'', Mastropiero was a compositor with plenty of anecdotes a small quantity of them were TakeThats to him. FastForward to Lutherapia and the whole show is about making fun of Mastropiero's many flaws, including plagiarizing the auto-biography from another compositor.
