History YMMV / KingLear

7th Oct '16 6:11:02 PM fearlessnikki
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: At least one critic has wondered if a few particular lines in the play indicate that Lear has sexually abused his two oldest daughters. He refers to Goneril's 'dishonoured body' and the specific wording the two use to lay on the flattery in the love test is rather sketchy.

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At least one critic has wondered if a few particular lines in the play indicate that Lear has sexually abused his two oldest daughters. He refers to Goneril's 'dishonoured body' and the specific wording the two use to lay on the flattery in the love test is rather sketchy.



** It's notable that Regan appears to be the more bloodthirsty of the sisters. She's the one that turns Lear out into the storm and takes part in Gloucester getting his eyes gouged out. How much of the sisters' scheming is the result of Goneril simply going along with her sociopathic younger sister - possibly realising it's better to have Regan as an ally than an enemy? Goneril's eventual [[spoiler: suicide after poisoning Regan]] suggests that she feels more remorse for what's happened than she lets on. Another of Regan's key characteristics is that she is able to bring out the evilness in others - further supporting the theory that Goneril is heavily under her influence.
** Edmund is often interpreted as a TragicMonster but it's not hard to see him as an EntitledBastard instead (quite literally). He appears to at least have a comfortable status in Gloucester's household - and has a somewhat cordial relationship with his half-brother. He betrays his father simply out of a desire to have even more. Although Gloucester looks down on him, he's not exactly on the streets fending for himself. Edmund basically ruins a bunch of lives because he's greedy. Gloucester can't necessarily recognise him as heir because he's bound by the laws of the state. And being the younger child, he'd still be in second place to Edgar even if he were legitimate.
** Cordelia is Lear's favourite but she doesn't resort to flattering or ego stroking like the other two. Nor does she seem to think anything bad will come of being honest to her father. Is it possible that earlier in his life - before his senility started setting in - Lear actually preferred being told the truth and that his love for Cordelia is precisely because of her BrutalHonesty?
** There is a massive amount of debate over Lear's line "my poor fool is hanged". Some assume it means that [[spoiler: The Fool who disappeared after Act III has been executed too. Others point to the lower case f - and that an upper case one would have been used if Lear had been referring to The Fool. 'Fool' was also another word for child, and he could be referring to Cordelia in this case]].



** The servant who fatally wounds Cornwall has caught the attention of a lot of readers.
* HilariousInHindsight: "What, art thou mad, old fellow?" [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/u-mad Sound familiar?]]
%%* JerkassWoobie: Lear

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** The servant who fatally wounds Cornwall has caught * FairForItsDay: Edmund is the attention of a lot of readers.
villain and treated as such because he's an illegitimate child. However he's still played tragically and does [[spoiler: repent at the last minute, even if it's too late to save Cordelia]]. It helps that Regan and Goneril are just as nasty in comparison to Edmund, and they don't get played tragically at any point.
* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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"What, art thou mad, old fellow?" [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/u-mad Sound familiar?]]
%%* ** The most kind-hearted person in the play is called Cordelia, which becomes hilarious to ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' fans; the show's resident AlphaBitch is Cordelia Chase. Even more hilarious with the spin-off ''{{Series/Angel}}'' where Cordelia TookALevelInKindness to become TheHeart in the same way that this Cordelia is.
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JerkassWoobie: LearLear is a haughty tyrant at the start of the film who banishes Cordelia for not flattering him. He endures a massive BreakTheHaughty and is reduced to hiding out on the moors in the middle of a storm. It's hard not to feel sorry for him when [[spoiler: he reappears holding Cordelia's dead body]].



%%* MoralEventHorizon: Cornwall crosses the line with what he does to Gloucester.

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Cornwall crosses the line with what when he does tortures Gloucester and gouges his eyes out. It's then considerably cathartic when [[spoiler: one of his own servants murders him]].
** Edmund crosses it when he sets his own father up
to Gloucester.be tortured. Just in case there's any doubt, he then orders [[spoiler: Lear and Cordelia to be hanged in prison. Even he ends up regretting this and hastily trying to stop it]].


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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Edmund these days is viewed far more sympathetically than he was in Shakespeare's day. Given that he's snubbed for being an illegitimate child, his villainy comes across as more of a ThenLetMeBeEvil situation. He was expected to be nothing but trouble since he's illegitimate - so he's just doing what's expected of him.
20th Jul '16 1:59:20 PM Vilui
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Fool steals the show, moreso than usual in this type of play.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Fool steals the show, moreso more so than usual in this type of play.
14th Apr '16 2:25:03 PM Silverblade2
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* MagnificentBastard: Edmund is up there with Iago and Richard III.
** "Oh Gods, stand up for bastards!" Particularly of the magnificent variety.
* MoralEventHorizon: Cornwall crosses the line with what he does to Gloucester.

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%%* JerkassWoobie: Lear
* MagnificentBastard: Edmund is up there with Iago and Richard III.
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III. "Oh Gods, stand up for bastards!" Particularly of the magnificent variety.
* %%* MoralEventHorizon: Cornwall crosses the line with what he does to Gloucester.



** JerkassWoobie: Lear
14th Apr '16 2:25:03 PM Silverblade2
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27th Dec '15 5:32:23 AM LahmacunKebab
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* DesignatedHero: Lear for the first half of the play before Goneril and Regan drive him out during the storm. Lear throughout the beginning is an unlikable asshole who's introduced exiling his daughter and adviser, and treats the other two daughters like servants.



* DesignatedHero: Lear for the first half of the play before Goneril and Regan drive him out during the storm. Lear throughout the beginning is an unlikable asshole who's introduced exiling his daughter and adviser, and treats the other two daughters like servants.
19th Dec '15 10:08:26 AM SorPepita
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* SpiritualLicensee: The MangaShakespeare adaptation of King Lear is the best graphic novel adaptation of TheLeatherstockingTales you will ever see.

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* SpiritualLicensee: The MangaShakespeare Manga Shakespeare adaptation of King Lear is the best graphic novel adaptation of TheLeatherstockingTales you will ever see.
14th May '15 12:57:12 PM jet556
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* SpiritualLicensee: The MangaShakespeare adaptation of King Lear is the best graphic novel adaptation of TheLeatherstockingTales you will ever see.
17th Dec '14 5:22:09 PM GoneRampant
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* DesignatedHero: Lear for the first half of the play before Goneril and Regan drive him out during the storm. Lear throughout the beginning is an unlikable asshole who's introduced exiling his daughter and adviser, and treats the other two daughters like servants.
7th Nov '14 5:46:19 PM Angelus25
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** "Oh God, stand up for bastards!" Particularly of the magnificent variety.

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** "Oh God, Gods, stand up for bastards!" Particularly of the magnificent variety.
28th Jul '14 11:43:11 AM Silverblade2
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: [[DarkerAndEdgier Surprisingly enough]]. No matter how you play Kent insulting Oswald, the sheer, ridiculous ''volume'' of names he calls him ensures that it CrossesTheLineTwice.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: The scene where Lear reunites with Cordelia, especially when Cordelia reveals that she is ''not'' bitter as Lear had expected her to be.
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