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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process


** [[spoiler: The man who [[RapeAsBackstory raped Jamie]] when he was [[HarmfulToMinors a kid]]. More specifically, the way Jamie draws him; as a massive, pitch black EldritchAbomination with an enormous SlasherSmile that curls and twists [[UncannyValley unnaturally]] and [[EyelessFace no eyes]]]].

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** [[spoiler: The man who [[RapeAsBackstory raped Jamie]] when he was [[HarmfulToMinors a kid]]. More specifically, the way Jamie draws him; as a massive, pitch black EldritchAbomination with an enormous SlasherSmile that curls and twists [[UncannyValley unnaturally]] unnaturally and [[EyelessFace no eyes]]]].
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** [[spoiler: The man who [[RapeAsBackstory raped Jamie]] when he was [[AdultFear a kid]]. More specifically, the way Jamie draws him; as a massive, pitch black EldritchAbomination with an enormous SlasherSmile that curls and twists [[UncannyValley unnaturally]] and [[EyelessFace no eyes]]]].

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** [[spoiler: The man who [[RapeAsBackstory raped Jamie]] when he was [[AdultFear [[HarmfulToMinors a kid]]. More specifically, the way Jamie draws him; as a massive, pitch black EldritchAbomination with an enormous SlasherSmile that curls and twists [[UncannyValley unnaturally]] and [[EyelessFace no eyes]]]].
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* BrokenBase -- Fan reactions to a certain page in Jamie's story were... [[{{Understatement}} spirited]].

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* BrokenBase -- Fan reactions to a certain page in Jamie's story were... [[{{Understatement}} spirited]].were spirited.
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** Out of the main characters Charlie and Tom seem the most popular, though Charlie is certainly a BaseBreaker.

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** Out of the main characters Charlie and Tom seem the most popular, though Charlie is certainly a BaseBreaker.BaseBreakingCharacter.
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** Natalie Geln in general, but the fact that there are people like her ''in real life'' is particularly horrifying. That's right, there are ''real people'' that are [[AxeCrazy as messed up as her!]]

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** Natalie Geln in general, but the fact that there are people like her ''in real life'' is particularly horrifying. That's right, there are ''real people'' that are [[AxeCrazy as messed up as her!]]her!]] And who are just as willing to do what she did to real life LGBT youths.
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** Out of the main characters Charlie and Tom seem the most popular, though Charlie is certainly a BaseBreaker.
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** Natalie Geln crossed it in her EstablishingCharacterMoment by giving Charlie the SadisticChoice to either get a TraumaticHaircut or watch as an unconscious Tom is ''raped'' by her two henchmen. She then tells Charlie that she doesn't want "freaks" in her school and tells her to "do the world a favor and kill [her]self".
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* UnfortunateImplications: The climax of Jamie's story drew a lot of heat for [[spoiler:portraying a trans girl, whom the audience had been asked for six chapters to sympathize with, as a rapist]].
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* OneSceneWonder: Natalie Geln is a particularly terrifying example; she appears in only one scene, but ''boy'' does she leave [[KickTheDog a lasting]] [[MoralEventHorizon impression with]] [[NightmareFuel just that]] [[TraumaticHaircut scene alone]].

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* CompleteMonster: Natalie Geln is a homophobic bitch. She attacks two transgender (Charlie, a MTF, and Tom, a FTM) students outside the school, cuts Charlie's hair, taking half of her ear-lobe with it, and orders two boys to [[MoralEventHorizon rape Tom.]] She then gives a long speech about how she doesn't want any freaks in "her" school, and they should "Do the world a favour and kill themselves."



* TheWoobie: '''''Everyone''''' is a Woobie at some point. Apart from [[CompleteMonster Natalie Geln.]] Or [[AbusiveParents Jamie's mom]].

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* TheWoobie: '''''Everyone''''' is a Woobie at some point. Apart from [[CompleteMonster Natalie Geln.]] Geln. Or [[AbusiveParents Jamie's mom]].

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* CompleteMonster: Natalie Geln is a homophobic bitch. She attacks two transgender (Charlie, a MTF, and Tom, a FTM) students outside the school, cuts Charlie's hair, taking half of her ear-lobe with it, and orders two boys to [[MoralEventHorizon rape Tom.]] She then gives a long speech about how she doesn't want any freaks in "her" school, and they should "Do the world a favour and kill themselves." The worst part? Not even that shit like that happens in real life or that anyone could easily become like her were they to allow certain biases to grow to monstrous proportions. [[spoiler: She ''[[TheBadGuyWins wins]]'']].

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* CompleteMonster: Natalie Geln is a homophobic bitch. She attacks two transgender (Charlie, a MTF, and Tom, a FTM) students outside the school, cuts Charlie's hair, taking half of her ear-lobe with it, and orders two boys to [[MoralEventHorizon rape Tom.]] She then gives a long speech about how she doesn't want any freaks in "her" school, and they should "Do the world a favour and kill themselves." The worst part? Not even that shit like that happens in real life or that anyone could easily become like her were they to allow certain biases to grow to monstrous proportions. [[spoiler: She ''[[TheBadGuyWins wins]]'']]."
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** [[spoiler: Jamie's [[RapeAsBackstory rapist]]. More specifically, the way Jamie draws him; as a massive, pitch black EldritchAbomination with an enormous SlasherSmile that curls and twists [[UncannyValley unnaturally]] and [[EyelessFace no eyes]]]].

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** [[spoiler: Jamie's The man who [[RapeAsBackstory rapist]].raped Jamie]] when he was [[AdultFear a kid]]. More specifically, the way Jamie draws him; as a massive, pitch black EldritchAbomination with an enormous SlasherSmile that curls and twists [[UncannyValley unnaturally]] and [[EyelessFace no eyes]]]].
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transgender, not transgendered


* CompleteMonster: Natalie Geln is a homophobic bitch. She attacks two Transgendered (Charlie, a MTF, and Tom, a FTM) students outside the school, cuts Charlie's hair, taking half of her ear-lobe with it, and orders two boys to [[MoralEventHorizon rape Tom.]] She then gives a long speech about how she doesn't want any freaks in "her" school, and they should "Do the world a favour and kill themselves." The worst part? Not even that shit like that happens in real life or that anyone could easily become like her were they to allow certain biases to grow to monstrous proportions. [[spoiler: She ''[[TheBadGuyWins wins]]'']].

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* CompleteMonster: Natalie Geln is a homophobic bitch. She attacks two Transgendered transgender (Charlie, a MTF, and Tom, a FTM) students outside the school, cuts Charlie's hair, taking half of her ear-lobe with it, and orders two boys to [[MoralEventHorizon rape Tom.]] She then gives a long speech about how she doesn't want any freaks in "her" school, and they should "Do the world a favour and kill themselves." The worst part? Not even that shit like that happens in real life or that anyone could easily become like her were they to allow certain biases to grow to monstrous proportions. [[spoiler: She ''[[TheBadGuyWins wins]]'']].
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** [[spoiler: Jamie's [[RapeAsBackstory rapist]]. More specifically, the way Jamie draws him; as a massive, pitch black EldritchAbomination with an enormous SlasherSmile that curls and twists [[UncannyValley unnaturally]] and [[EyelessFace no eyes]]]].
** Natalie Geln in general, but the fact that there are people like her ''in real life'' is particularly horrifying. That's right, there are ''real people'' that are [[AxeCrazy as messed up as her!]]

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** The ''really'' nasty thing about Natalie's Complete Monster status is that what she did isn't just exaggerated cartoon villain stuff; stuff like that happens in ''real life''.
** Jamie's [[spoiler: childhood rapist]] is drawn as a ''literal'' monster.
** Jamie's mother proves that even a KnightTemplar can be a CompleteMonster. [[spoiler: Scalding your child for being against your morals [[CaptainObvious is nothing short of monstruous]].]]
*** She reaches a new level of low when [[spoiler: she reveals she did know about him being sexually abused and '''did nothing''' to prevent it]]. At this point, she might as well be wearing a nazi costume.



* TheWoobie: Let's just say '''''everyone''''' is a Woobie at some point.
** Apart from [[CompleteMonster Natalie Geln.]] Or [[AbusiveParents Jamie's mom]].

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* TheWoobie: Let's just say '''''everyone''''' '''''Everyone''''' is a Woobie at some point.
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* CompleteMonster: Natalie Geln from is a homophobic bitch. She attacks two Transgendered (Charlie, a MTF, and Tom, a FTM) students outside the school, cuts Charlie's hair, taking half of her ear-lobe with it, and orders two boys to [[MoralEventHorizon rape Tom.]] She then gives a long speech about how she doesn't want any freaks in "her" school, and they should "Do the world a favour and kill themselves." The worst part? Not even that shit like that happens in real life or that anyone could easily become like her were they to allow certain biases to grow to monstrous proportions. [[spoiler: She ''[[TheBadGuyWins wins]]'']].

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* CompleteMonster: Natalie Geln from is a homophobic bitch. She attacks two Transgendered (Charlie, a MTF, and Tom, a FTM) students outside the school, cuts Charlie's hair, taking half of her ear-lobe with it, and orders two boys to [[MoralEventHorizon rape Tom.]] She then gives a long speech about how she doesn't want any freaks in "her" school, and they should "Do the world a favour and kill themselves." The worst part? Not even that shit like that happens in real life or that anyone could easily become like her were they to allow certain biases to grow to monstrous proportions. [[spoiler: She ''[[TheBadGuyWins wins]]'']].
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** The ''really'' nasty thing about [[spoiler:Natalie]]'s Complete Monster status is that what she did isn't just exaggerated cartoon villain stuff; stuff like that happens in ''real life''.

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** The ''really'' nasty thing about [[spoiler:Natalie]]'s Natalie's Complete Monster status is that what she did isn't just exaggerated cartoon villain stuff; stuff like that happens in ''real life''.

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* CompleteMonster -- [[spoiler: Natalie, in Charlie and Tom's mutual backstory. Her posse of male bullies are straight-up TeensAreMonsters, but she's a special case and utterly vile. She even threatens to have Tom ''raped'' while he's unconscious; Charlie only saves Tom by submitting to possibly the worst case of TraumaticHaircut ever. Triggery link [[http://www.khaoskomix.com/komix/charlies-story-page-28 here]].]]

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* CompleteMonster -- CompleteMonster: Natalie Geln from is a homophobic bitch. She attacks two Transgendered (Charlie, a MTF, and Tom, a FTM) students outside the school, cuts Charlie's hair, taking half of her ear-lobe with it, and orders two boys to [[MoralEventHorizon rape Tom.]] She then gives a long speech about how she doesn't want any freaks in "her" school, and they should "Do the world a favour and kill themselves." The worst part? Not even that shit like that happens in real life or that anyone could easily become like her were they to allow certain biases to grow to monstrous proportions. [[spoiler: Natalie, in Charlie and Tom's mutual backstory. Her posse of male bullies are straight-up TeensAreMonsters, but she's a special case and utterly vile. She even threatens to have Tom ''raped'' while he's unconscious; Charlie only saves Tom by submitting to possibly the worst case of TraumaticHaircut ever. Triggery link [[http://www.khaoskomix.com/komix/charlies-story-page-28 here]].]]''[[TheBadGuyWins wins]]'']].
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** The ''really'' nasty thing about [[spoiler:Natalie]]'s Complete Monster status? What she did isn't just exaggerated cartoon villain stuff; stuff like that happens in ''real life''.

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** The ''really'' nasty thing about [[spoiler:Natalie]]'s Complete Monster status? What status is that what she did isn't just exaggerated cartoon villain stuff; stuff like that happens in ''real life''.
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** The ''really'' nasty thing about [[spoiler:Natalie]]'s Complete Monster status? What she did isn't just exaggerated cartoon villain stuff; stuff like that happens in ''real life''.
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* ContrivedCoincidence -- Sometimes the characters start to feel a ''little'' too likely to be gay.



* Jerkass: Tom, to some. He's unwilling to give Jamie his chance with Charlie (albeit with some good reason) and he does dump Murfs out of nowhere. Worse, he flirts with Murfs while they're broken up (though he does seem remorseful when he's called out on it).



* MrFanservice: Tom.
** Steve, Mark and Jamie also qualify.



* TookALevelInJerkass: Charlie as her story and Jamie's go on.
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** This is thrown ''hard'' into perspective, however, when [[spoiler:Charlie forces herself on Jamie]].

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** This is thrown ''hard'' into perspective, however, when [[spoiler:Charlie forces herself on Jamie]]. However, following the revision, it's also deconstructed. [[spoiler:Charlie feels ''incredible'' guilt for her actions and is quite clearly shocked at what she was within inches of becoming]].

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** Mark thinks Charlie is weird and thinks Jamie is "settling" for her.



** Mark thinks Charlie is weird and thinks Jamie is "settling" for her.


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* Jerkass: Tom, to some. He's unwilling to give Jamie his chance with Charlie (albeit with some good reason) and he does dump Murfs out of nowhere. Worse, he flirts with Murfs while they're broken up (though he does seem remorseful when he's called out on it).


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*** She reaches a new level of low when [[spoiler: she reveals she did know about him being sexually abused and '''did nothing''' to prevent it]]. At this point, she might as well be wearing a nazi costume.
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* BrokenBase -- Fan reactions to a certain page in Jamie's story have been... [[{{Understatement}} spirited]].
** [[spoiler:For context, prior to the 07 October revision, page 83 featured Charlie performing a sexual act on Jamie against his explicit consent, and Jamie dis-associating so as to make the experience pass more quickly. Although the arguments surrounding Charlie's actions against Jamie had many, MANY intricate and painful facets, the biggest and/or loudest camps were divided primarily between A: Those who felt that [[WordOfGod Tab's]] choice to make Charlie commit an act of sexual violence played dangerously into a larger trans-phobic cultural narrative, and B: those who either saw Charlie's actions as --if not forgivable-- comprehensible given her extensive back story, or who focused on other things like the fact that it honestly portrayed a man as being susceptible to sexual abuse, [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale in spite of a number cultural assumptions to the contrary]].]] There was a '''LOT''' more to it than just that, but better to be brief and '''[[RapeAsDrama Let]] [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes Other]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Abuse}} Articles]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Consent}} With]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} Better]] [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming Writers]]''' give you an idea of some of the complexities involved. The original massive and contentious comment thread has since been taken down, though [[WordOfGod Tab]] has said that he is keeping a copy for posterity.

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* BrokenBase -- Fan reactions to a certain page in Jamie's story have been...were... [[{{Understatement}} spirited]].
** [[spoiler:For context, prior to the 07 October revision, page 83 featured Charlie performing a sexual act on Jamie against his explicit consent, and Jamie dis-associating so as to make the experience pass more quickly. Although the arguments surrounding Charlie's actions against Jamie had many, MANY intricate and painful facets, the biggest and/or loudest camps were divided primarily between A: Those who felt that [[WordOfGod Tab's]] choice to make Charlie commit an act of sexual violence played dangerously into a larger trans-phobic cultural narrative, and B: those who either saw Charlie's actions as --if not forgivable-- comprehensible given her extensive back story, or who focused on other things like the fact that it honestly portrayed a man as being susceptible to sexual abuse, [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale in spite of a number of cultural assumptions to the contrary]].]] There was a '''LOT''' more to it than just that, but better to be brief and '''[[RapeAsDrama Let]] [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes Other]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Abuse}} Articles]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Consent}} With]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} Better]] [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming Writers]]''' give you an idea of some of the complexities involved. The original massive and contentious comment thread has since been taken down, though [[WordOfGod Tab]] has said that he is keeping a copy for posterity.



** Jamie's [[spoiler: rapist]] is drawn as a ''literal'' monster.

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** [[spoiler:Although the arguments surrounding Charlie's actions against Jamie have many, MANY intricate and painful facets, the biggest and/or loudest camps are divided primarily between A: Those who feel that [[WordOfGod Tab's]] choice to make Charlie commit an act of sexual violence plays into a larger trans-phobic cultural narrative, and B: those who either see Charlie's actions as --if not forgivable-- comprehensible given her extensive back story, or who focus on other things like the fact that it honestly portrays a man as being susceptible to sexual abuse, [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale in spite of a number cultural assumptions to the contrary]].]] There's a '''LOT''' more to it than just that, but better to be brief and '''[[RapeAsDrama Let]] [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes Other]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Abuse}} Articles]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Consent}} With]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} Better]] [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming Writers]]''' give you an idea of some of the complexities involved. Also, [[FlameWar read the comments]] [[http://www.khaoskomix.com/komix/jamies-story-page-83/comment-page-1#comments at your own risk]] (though there are some very good arguments to be had, there's a lot of vitriol and trolling sprinkled around for flavor).

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** [[spoiler:Although [[spoiler:For context, prior to the 07 October revision, page 83 featured Charlie performing a sexual act on Jamie against his explicit consent, and Jamie dis-associating so as to make the experience pass more quickly. Although the arguments surrounding Charlie's actions against Jamie have had many, MANY intricate and painful facets, the biggest and/or loudest camps are were divided primarily between A: Those who feel felt that [[WordOfGod Tab's]] choice to make Charlie commit an act of sexual violence plays played dangerously into a larger trans-phobic cultural narrative, and B: those who either see saw Charlie's actions as --if not forgivable-- comprehensible given her extensive back story, or who focus focused on other things like the fact that it honestly portrays portrayed a man as being susceptible to sexual abuse, [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale in spite of a number cultural assumptions to the contrary]].]] There's There was a '''LOT''' more to it than just that, but better to be brief and '''[[RapeAsDrama Let]] [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes Other]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Abuse}} Articles]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Consent}} With]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} Better]] [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming Writers]]''' give you an idea of some of the complexities involved. Also, [[FlameWar read the comments]] [[http://www.khaoskomix.com/komix/jamies-story-page-83/comment-page-1#comments at your own risk]] (though there are some very good arguments to be had, there's a lot of vitriol The original massive and trolling sprinkled around contentious comment thread has since been taken down, though [[WordOfGod Tab]] has said that he is keeping a copy for flavor).posterity.
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** [[spoiler:Although the arguments surrounding Charlie's actions against Jamie have many, MANY intricate and painful facets, the biggest and/or loudest camps are divided primarily between A: Those who feel that [[WordOfGod Tab's]] choice to make Charlie commit an act of sexual violence plays into a larger trans-phobic cultural narrative, and B: those who either see Charlie's actions as --if not forgivable-- comprehensible given her extensive back story, or who focus on other things like the fact that it honestly portrays a man as being susceptible to sexual abuse, [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale in spite of a number cultural assumptions to the contrary]]. There's a '''LOT''' more to it than just that, but better to be brief and '''[[RapeAsDrama Let]] [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes Other]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Abuse}} Articles]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Consent}} With]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} Better]] [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming Writers]]''' give you an idea of some of the complexities involved. Also, [[FlameWar read the comments]] [[http://www.khaoskomix.com/komix/jamies-story-page-83/comment-page-1#comments at your own risk]] (though there are some very good arguments to be had, there's a lot of vitriol and trolling sprinkled around for flavor).]]

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** [[spoiler:Although the arguments surrounding Charlie's actions against Jamie have many, MANY intricate and painful facets, the biggest and/or loudest camps are divided primarily between A: Those who feel that [[WordOfGod Tab's]] choice to make Charlie commit an act of sexual violence plays into a larger trans-phobic cultural narrative, and B: those who either see Charlie's actions as --if not forgivable-- comprehensible given her extensive back story, or who focus on other things like the fact that it honestly portrays a man as being susceptible to sexual abuse, [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale in spite of a number cultural assumptions to the contrary]]. ]] There's a '''LOT''' more to it than just that, but better to be brief and '''[[RapeAsDrama Let]] [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes Other]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Abuse}} Articles]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Consent}} With]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} Better]] [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming Writers]]''' give you an idea of some of the complexities involved. Also, [[FlameWar read the comments]] [[http://www.khaoskomix.com/komix/jamies-story-page-83/comment-page-1#comments at your own risk]] (though there are some very good arguments to be had, there's a lot of vitriol and trolling sprinkled around for flavor).]]
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* BrokenBase -- Fan reactions to a certain page in Jamie's story have been... [[{{Understatement}} spirited]].
** [[spoiler:Although the arguments surrounding Charlie's actions against Jamie have many, MANY intricate and painful facets, the biggest and/or loudest camps are divided primarily between A: Those who feel that [[WordOfGod Tab's]] choice to make Charlie commit an act of sexual violence plays into a larger trans-phobic cultural narrative, and B: those who either see Charlie's actions as --if not forgivable-- comprehensible given her extensive back story, or who focus on other things like the fact that it honestly portrays a man as being susceptible to sexual abuse, [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale in spite of a number cultural assumptions to the contrary]]. There's a '''LOT''' more to it than just that, but better to be brief and '''[[RapeAsDrama Let]] [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes Other]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Abuse}} Articles]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Consent}} With]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} Better]] [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming Writers]]''' give you an idea of some of the complexities involved. Also, [[FlameWar read the comments]] [[http://www.khaoskomix.com/komix/jamies-story-page-83/comment-page-1#comments at your own risk]] (though there are some very good arguments to be had, there's a lot of vitriol and trolling sprinkled around for flavor).]]
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* UnfortunateImplications: The climax of Jamie's story drew a lot of heat for [[spoiler:portraying a transwoman, whom the audience had been asked for six chapters to sympathize with, as a rapist]].

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* UnfortunateImplications: The climax of Jamie's story drew a lot of heat for [[spoiler:portraying a transwoman, trans girl, whom the audience had been asked for six chapters to sympathize with, as a rapist]].

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