History YMMV / JoyDivision

21st Dec '16 6:32:32 PM DavidDelony
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* YokoOhNo: ''Touching from a Distance'' gets some critical reviews on Amazon from fans who don't appreciate Deborah Curtis exposing how cruel Ian could be to her. A lot of them think she has an ax to grind, despite the clear emotional abuse described in the book.

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* YokoOhNo: ''Touching from a Distance'' gets some critical reviews on Amazon from fans who don't appreciate Deborah Curtis Curtis, Ian Curtis' widow, exposing how cruel Ian could be to her. A lot of them think she has an ax to grind, despite the clear emotional abuse described in the book.
12th Sep '16 3:51:25 PM bt8257
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** Though not a Joy Division song, Music/ThrobbingGristle's song "Weeping" become more chilling than usual when taken into account that it's not only about suicide, but one of Ian Curtis's favorite songs, to the point of singing parts of it during phone calls with TG members.

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** Though not a Joy Division song, Music/ThrobbingGristle's song "Weeping" become more chilling than usual when taken into account that it's not only about suicide, but one of Ian Curtis's Ian's favorite songs, to the point of singing parts of it during phone calls with TG members.



* JerkassWoobie: Ian Curtis. Yes, by many accounts, he wasn't the easiest person to deal with, but given how much he suffered in life, it's nearly impossible not to feel sympathy for the guy. He had ''severe'' depression, very, ''very'' bad epilepsy (with regular tonic-clonic seizures), and of course, this was at a time when nobody understood it enough to effectively help him. The pills he was prescribed only served to exacerbate his depression, and the constant performing with the band only serve to make his illness worse. There's also the fact that Curtis frequently felt like his audience [[DancingBear only came to shows to watch him have epileptic fits]] instead of trying to get the message of his band's music. [[TheChewToy His life was not a very good one]].

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* JerkassWoobie: Ian Curtis. Yes, by many accounts, he wasn't the easiest person to deal with, but given how much he suffered in life, it's nearly impossible not to feel sympathy for the guy. He had ''severe'' depression, very, ''very'' bad epilepsy (with regular tonic-clonic seizures), and of course, this was at a time when nobody understood it enough to effectively help him. The pills he was prescribed only served to exacerbate exacerbated his depression, and the constant performing with the band only serve to make made his illness worse. There's also the fact that Curtis frequently felt like his audience [[DancingBear only came to shows to watch him have epileptic fits]] instead of trying to get the message of his band's music. [[TheChewToy His life was not a very good one]].



* SeriousBusiness: Much like Music/KurtCobain, Ian is remembered as being a tragic tortured figure but his bandmates remember him as a rather goofy and kind-hearted individual. Stephen Morris recalls in one book how he would drop Ian off at his house after gigs in the early hours and then Ian would [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments take his dog for a walk]] in the middle of the night.

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* SeriousBusiness: Much like Music/KurtCobain, Ian is remembered as being a tragic tortured figure figure, but his bandmates remember him as a rather goofy and goofy, kind-hearted individual. Stephen Morris recalls in one book how he would drop Ian off at his house after gigs in the early hours and then Ian would [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments take his dog for a walk]] in the middle of the night.



** "Heart and Soul," "Twenty Four Hours," "Ceremony," "In a Lonely Place," and "Atmosphere" also qualify for this.
** The band members' reaction to Curtis's suicide can be considered this as well. For one thing, they ''didn't know Ian was at the verge of suicide''. They all have seen regretted not realizing what Ian was feeling, especially Stephan, who feels they could have prevented Ian's death...

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** "Heart and Soul," Soul", "Twenty Four Hours," "Ceremony," Hours", "Ceremony", "In a Lonely Place," Place", and "Atmosphere" also qualify for this.
** The band members' reaction to Curtis's Ian's suicide can be considered this as well. For one thing, they ''didn't know Ian he was at the verge of suicide''. They all have seen regretted not realizing what Ian was feeling, especially Stephan, who feels they could have prevented Ian's death...
3rd Sep '16 12:38:58 PM DavidDelony
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* FollowTheLeader: The band's 1988 ''Substance'' compilation collects the band's non-album singles and [=EPs=], just as the Music/NewOrder compilation of the same name released a year earlier did.
3rd Sep '16 12:38:35 PM DavidDelony
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* FollowTheLeader: The band's 1988 ''Substance'' compilation collects the band's non-album singles and EP's, just as the Music/NewOrder compilation of the same name released a year earlier did.

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* FollowTheLeader: The band's 1988 ''Substance'' compilation collects the band's non-album singles and EP's, [=EPs=], just as the Music/NewOrder compilation of the same name released a year earlier did.
2nd Sep '16 12:45:29 PM gewunomox
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** Speaking of ''Music/{{Closer}}'', who could forget:

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** Speaking of ''Music/{{Closer}}'', ''Closer'', who could forget:



* FollowTheLeader: The band's 1988 ''Substance'' compilation collects the band's non-album singles and EP's, just as the Music/NewOrder compilation of the same name released a year earlier did.



* FollowTheLeader: The band's 1988 ''Substance'' compilation collects the band's non-album singles and [=EPs=], just as the Music/NewOrder compilation of the same name released a year earlier did.



* HarsherInHindsight: Most of Ian's lyrics are ominous but "In a Lonely Place" stand out. It never actually came out in Ian's lifetime, but Music/NewOrder re-recorded it as a BSide. The verse that stands out "Hangman looks round as he waits / Cord stretches tight and it breaks / One day we will die in your dreams / How I wish you were here with me now" Yikes.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Most of Ian's lyrics are ominous but "In a Lonely Place" stand out. It never actually came out in Ian's lifetime, but Music/NewOrder New Order re-recorded it as a BSide. The verse that stands out "Hangman looks round as he waits / Cord stretches tight and it breaks / One day we will die in your dreams / How I wish you were here with me now" Yikes.



* SeriousBusiness: Much like Music/KurtCobain, Ian is remembered as being a tragic tortured figure but his bandmates remember him as a rather goofy and kind-hearted individual. Stephen Morris recalls in one book how he would drop Ian off at his house after gigs in the early hours and then Ian would [[CrowningMomentofHeartwarming take his dog for a walk]] in the middle of the night.

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* SeriousBusiness: Much like Music/KurtCobain, Ian is remembered as being a tragic tortured figure but his bandmates remember him as a rather goofy and kind-hearted individual. Stephen Morris recalls in one book how he would drop Ian off at his house after gigs in the early hours and then Ian would [[CrowningMomentofHeartwarming [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments take his dog for a walk]] in the middle of the night.



** Many Joy Division songs are TearJerker[=s=], but when Ian sings "For entertainment they watch his body twist" in "Atrocity Exhibition," and you remember about his epilepsy, you could definitely by forgiven for crying. The rest of the lyrics in the song do not help at all.

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** Many Joy Division songs are TearJerker[=s=], {{Tear Jerker}}s, but when Ian sings "For entertainment they watch his body twist" in "Atrocity Exhibition," and you remember about his epilepsy, you could definitely by forgiven for crying. The rest of the lyrics in the song do not help at all.
16th Jul '16 5:39:56 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker:

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* BaseBreaker: BrokenBase:
16th Jun '16 10:36:03 AM JoeStrong
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*** Speaking of ''Music/{{Closer}}'', who could forget:
-->"Isolation (BA-deep-BA-deep, BA-deep-BA-deep), isolation (BA-deep-BA-deep, BA-deep-BA-deep), ''iso-lay-shunnn''..."

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*** ** Speaking of ''Music/{{Closer}}'', who could forget:
-->"Isolation (BA-deep-BA-deep, BA-deep-BA-deep), isolation ''iso-lay-shunnn'' (BA-deep-BA-deep, BA-deep-BA-deep), ''iso-lay-shunnn''..."isolation!"
27th Apr '16 12:16:25 AM aye_amber
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Joy Division has a strong cult following in UsefulNotes/NewZealand. When Ian Curtis died, a fan had painted a tribute to him [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lamnl0GpB51qbv0nvo1_500.jpg on a wall]] in UsefulNotes/{{Wellington}}, which still remains today, although it had been relocated and re-painted a few times.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Joy Division has a strong cult following in UsefulNotes/NewZealand. When Ian Curtis died, a fan had painted a tribute to him [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lamnl0GpB51qbv0nvo1_500.[[http://i.imgur.com/duyIUBs.jpg on a wall]] in UsefulNotes/{{Wellington}}, which still remains today, although it had been relocated and re-painted a few times.
8th Apr '16 6:14:55 PM WillBGood
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* JerkassWoobie: Ian Curtis. Yes, by many accounts, he wasn't the easiest person to deal with, but given how much he suffered in life, it's nearly impossible not to feel sympathy for the guy. He had ''severe'' depression, very, ''very'' bad epilepsy (with regular tonic-clonic seizures), and of course, this was at a time when nobody understood it enough to effectively help him. The pills he was prescribed only served to exacerbate his depression, and the constant performing with the band only serve to make his illness worse. There's also the fact that Curtis frequently felt like his audience [[DancingBear only came to shows to watch him have epileptic fits]] instead of trying to get the message of his band's music. [[TheChewToy His life was]] [[{{Understatement}} not a very good one]].

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* JerkassWoobie: Ian Curtis. Yes, by many accounts, he wasn't the easiest person to deal with, but given how much he suffered in life, it's nearly impossible not to feel sympathy for the guy. He had ''severe'' depression, very, ''very'' bad epilepsy (with regular tonic-clonic seizures), and of course, this was at a time when nobody understood it enough to effectively help him. The pills he was prescribed only served to exacerbate his depression, and the constant performing with the band only serve to make his illness worse. There's also the fact that Curtis frequently felt like his audience [[DancingBear only came to shows to watch him have epileptic fits]] instead of trying to get the message of his band's music. [[TheChewToy His life was]] [[{{Understatement}} was not a very good one]].
8th Feb '16 7:03:36 AM Freshmeat
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* AwesomeMusic: Pretty much everything they did.



** Which is better, ''Music/UnknownPleasures'' or ''Music/{{Closer}}''? The latter is commonly considered the band's MagnumOpus. However, some prefer the less experimental, more rock-oriented style of the former and dislike the experimental, synth-heavy direction on the latter with its comparatively dry production.

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** Which is better, ''Music/UnknownPleasures'' or ''Music/{{Closer}}''? The latter is commonly considered the band's MagnumOpus.masterpiece. However, some prefer the less experimental, more rock-oriented style of the former and dislike the experimental, synth-heavy direction on the latter with its comparatively dry production.
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