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* EsotericHappyEnding: Sure, Courtney is exposed for her crimes at the end of the film, but this trope and WhatHappenedToTheMouse sets in when you realize Julie and Marcie will surely be charged as accessories for Liz’s death and helping Courtney move the body.

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* CatharsisFactor: Courtney being exposed at the prom, everyone turning on her, including the JerkJock leaving her on stage by herself, followed by some good old ProducePelting. Julie's kiss and "eat shit" is the icing on the cake.
* EsotericHappyEnding: Sure, Courtney is exposed for her crimes at the end of the film, but this trope and WhatHappenedToTheMouse sets in when you realize Julie and Marcie will surely be charged as accessories for Liz’s death and helping Courtney move the body. This seems to be deliberate, as Rose [=McGowan=] states that the movie was intentionally nihilistic.



* FriendlyFandoms: Usually with ''{{Film/Heathers}}'', as part of the 'killer clique' subgenre of movies, sometimes along with ''Film/MeanGirls''.



* HilariousInHindsight: William Katt and PJ Soles cameo as Liz's parents in a nod to ''{{Film/Carrie 1976}}'', with WordOfGod also saying that the casting of twentysomethings who look too old to be teenagers are nods to ''Carrie'' and also ''{{Film/Grease}}''. Judy Greer would later play Miss Desjardin in the 2013 remake.



* JustHereForGodzilla: The costumes are considered a huge draw of the movie by some viewers, even getting spotlighted for their appeal in ''Vogue'' and ''Rookie''.



* MemeticBadass: Courtney has endured as quite the badass for her murder coverup scheme, and is often compared to [[{{Film/Heathers}} Heather Chandler]] or [[Film/MeanGirls Regina George]] as who would win in a HypotheticalFightDebate.



* RetroactiveRecognition: Hey, Courtney is [[Series/Charmed1998 Paige]]! She had some fame for ''{{Film/Scream 1996}}'' at the time, but ''Charmed'' would make her more famous.

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Hey, Courtney is [[Series/Charmed1998 Paige]]! She had some fame for ''{{Film/Scream 1996}}'' at the time, but ''Charmed'' would make her more famous.famous.
** Judy Greer would become a more famous character actress in 2000s romcoms like ''Film/ThirteenGoingOnThirty'', ''{{Film/Elizabethtown}}'' and ''Film/TwentySevenDresses'', or else 2010s blockbusters like ''Film/JurassicWorld'', ''Film/AntMan'' and ''Film/{{Halloween 2018}}''.
** While Julie Benz had already appeared as Darla in two seasons of ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', she'd feature more prominently in the ''{{Series/Angel}}'' spin-off, and later become more famous for ''{{Series/Dexter}}''.


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* VindicatedByHistory: Considered a flop on its release, and reviewed poorly by critics, it amassed a cult following through home video rentals and is seen in a much more favourable light now; even been listed as "a teen classic" in a 2016 article by ''Vogue'' magazine.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: A slow-motion scene of the popular girls walking down the school hallway is more commonly associated with ''Film/MeanGirls'', but fans of this like to point out that ''Jawbreaker'' did it first. ''Film/TheCraft'' also featured a similar shot, though the girls were outcasts and walking outside.



* SignatureScene: Courtney making Dane simulate fellatio with an ice pop is the scene Darren Stein has said he gets asked about the most.

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Courtney making Dane simulate fellatio with an ice pop is the scene Darren Stein has said he gets asked about the most.most.
** Closely followed by Courtney, Julie and Marcie walking down the hallway in slow motion as Imperial Teen's "Yoo-Hoo" plays.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Sure, Courtney is exposed for her crimes at the end of the film, but this trope and WhatHappenedToTheMouse sets in when you realize Julie and Marcie will surely be charged as accessories for Liz’s death and helping Courtney move the body.
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Tatyana Ali is not making a cameo, she played Brenda, a side character in the movie who shows up plenty of times.


** Tatyana Ali from ''Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir'' briefly makes an appearance as a student attending senior prom looking visibly distraught when the truth behind Liz's death is brought to light.
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: For the kind of movie it is, there are some ''very'' surreal moments. Like the scene showing Fern's transformation into Vylette immediately.
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** Likewise, it becomes difficult not to see parallels between Rebecca Gayheart's involvement in a case of manslaughter in the movie and one in real life just two years later.

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** Likewise, it becomes difficult not to see parallels between Rebecca Gayheart's Creator/RebeccaGayheart's involvement in a case of manslaughter in the movie and one in real life just two years later.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Fern makes a joke about getting "[[{{Literature/Carrie}} a bucket of pig's blood]]" for the prom. While a nod to the 1976 film adaptation (Creator/WilliamKatt and Creator/PJSoles cameo as Liz's parents), Judy Greer would go on to play Miss Desjardin in the [[{{Film/Carrie2013}} 2013 remake]]. And Charlotte Ayana that same year would play the 'Chris' type character in ''Film/TheRageCarrie2''.
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%%* FaceOfTheBand: Undoubtedly Blake Schwarzenbach.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Fern makes a joke about getting "[[{{Literature/Carrie}} a bucket of pig's blood]]" for the prom. While a nod to the 1976 film adaptation (William Katt and PJ Soles cameo as Liz's parents), Judy Greer would go on to play Miss Desjardin in the [[{{Film/Carrie2013}} 2013 remake]]. And Charlotte Ayana that same year would play the 'Chris' type character in ''Film/TheRageCarrie2''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Fern makes a joke about getting "[[{{Literature/Carrie}} a bucket of pig's blood]]" for the prom. While a nod to the 1976 film adaptation (William Katt (Creator/WilliamKatt and PJ Soles Creator/PJSoles cameo as Liz's parents), Judy Greer would go on to play Miss Desjardin in the [[{{Film/Carrie2013}} 2013 remake]]. And Charlotte Ayana that same year would play the 'Chris' type character in ''Film/TheRageCarrie2''.

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** Creator/RoseMcGowan staging a killing to look like a rape becomes this given that she, herself, had been raped by Harvey Weinstein.

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** Creator/RoseMcGowan staging a killing to look like a rape becomes this given that she, herself, had been raped by Harvey Weinstein. And how her character ostracises anyone who challenges her - namely Julie and Fern - considering she was blacklisted by Weinstein as a result.



* HilariousInHindsight: Fern makes a joke about getting "[[{{Literature/Carrie}} a bucket of pig's blood]]" for the prom. While a nod to the 1976 film adaptation (William Katt and PJ Soles cameo as Liz's parents), Judy Greer would go on to play Miss Desjardin in the [[{{Film/Carrie2013}} 2013 remake]]. And Charlotte Ayana that same year would play the 'Chris' type character in ''Film/TheRageCarrie2''.



* [[HoYay Les Yay]]: Fern/Vylette really comes off as a StalkerWithACrush towards Liz Purr. She obsesses over her, describes her as perfection and spends all her class time gazing at the beauty marks on the back of Liz's neck.

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* [[HoYay Les Yay]]: LesYay: Fern/Vylette really comes off as a StalkerWithACrush towards Liz Purr. She obsesses over her, describes her as perfection and spends all her class time gazing at the beauty marks on the back of Liz's neck.neck.
* LGBTFanbase: Directed by the openly gay Darren Stein, with a smorgasbord of HomoeroticSubtext between the main characters, and an intentional {{Camp}} aesthetic, you bet the movie has a sizable queer fan base.
* LoveToHate: Courtney is a shit-tier human being, but she gets the best lines and is so entertainingly evil that she's beloved as a character. Rose [=McGowan=] got an MTV Movie Award nomination for Best Villain.
* MoralEventHorizon: While Courtney wasn't even remotely sympathetic, her murder of Liz was at least accidental. But she leaps over it when she [[spoiler: picks up a random guy, has sex with him in Liz's bed and frames him for the murder, as well as getting him falsely branded a rapist]].



* RetroactiveRecognition: Hey, Courtney is [[Series/Charmed1998 Paige]]!

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* QueerShowGhetto: Darren Stein deliberately inserted queer subtext into the story, and theorises that made it off-putting to heterosexual critics. Audiences however were a [[CultClassic different story]].
* RetroactiveRecognition: Hey, Courtney is [[Series/Charmed1998 Paige]]!Paige]]! She had some fame for ''{{Film/Scream 1996}}'' at the time, but ''Charmed'' would make her more famous.
* SignatureScene: Courtney making Dane simulate fellatio with an ice pop is the scene Darren Stein has said he gets asked about the most.


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* WTHCostumingDepartment: While it can be impossible to predict how fashion will evolve in the years to come, it's rather amusing that Fern's makeover to become popular and desirable involves getting a hairstyle that would be derisively called the 'Karen haircut'; associated with snobby, entitled middle-aged women.

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"Idiot Plot" and "What an Idiot!" are now Flame Bait. Renamed one trope.


* IdiotPlot: To quote [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19990219/REVIEWS/902190302 Roger Ebert]]: "Julie could end it all by speaking out, but she delays, because that would not be convenient for the plot." And the police officer who completely ignores the fact that a ''woman'' called the school and not some random male rapist. In defense to Julie, it would've been her word against Courtney, Marcie, and Fern/Vylette, and Julie didn't exactly have any evidence to prove Courtney was responsible.
** Also, Courtney was a vicious little liar and manipulator. If Julie had gone to the police Courtney probably would've tried to spin the whole thing around and make it look like ''Julie'' killed Liz and threatened the others into compliance.
* LesYay: Fern/Vylette really comes off as a StalkerWithACrush towards Liz Purr. She obsesses over her, describes her as perfection and spends all her class time gazing at the beauty marks on the back of Liz's neck.

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* IdiotPlot: To quote [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19990219/REVIEWS/902190302 Roger Ebert]]: "Julie could end it all by speaking out, but she delays, because that would not be convenient for the plot." And the police officer who completely ignores the fact that a ''woman'' called the school and not some random male rapist. In defense to Julie, it would've been her word against Courtney, Marcie, and Fern/Vylette, and Julie didn't exactly have any evidence to prove Courtney was responsible.
** Also, Courtney was a vicious little liar and manipulator. If Julie had gone to the police Courtney probably would've tried to spin the whole thing around and make it look like ''Julie'' killed Liz and threatened the others into compliance.
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[[HoYay Les Yay]]: Fern/Vylette really comes off as a StalkerWithACrush towards Liz Purr. She obsesses over her, describes her as perfection and spends all her class time gazing at the beauty marks on the back of Liz's neck.



* WhatAnIdiot: Invoked in-universe, as this is pretty much Julie's reaction to Courtney upon learning she gagged Liz with a jawbreaker.
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%%** Music/MarilynManson's cameo as the man who supposedly raped Liz becomes this given the abuse allegations made against him by Creator/EvanRachelWood, among others.

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%%** ** Music/MarilynManson's cameo as the man who supposedly raped Liz becomes this given the abuse allegations made against him by Creator/EvanRachelWood, among others.
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** Music/MarilynManson's cameo as the man who supposedly raped Liz becomes this given the abuse allegations made against him by Creator/EvanRachelWood, among others.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Hey, Courtney is [[Series/Charmed1998 Paige]]!
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* HarsherInHindsight:
** Creator/RoseMcGowan staging a killing to look like a rape becomes this given that she, herself, had been raped by Harvey Weinstein.
** Likewise, it becomes difficult not to see parallels between Rebecca Gayheart's involvement in a case of manslaughter in the movie and one in real life just two years later.
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** Jeff Conaway as Mr. Fox, Marcie's father. Even as the sensitive father who watches Oprah and his perceived [[InformedWrongness "corniness"]] (by Marcie, anyway), in his all too brief encounter with his daughter, he was completely right [[BetaBitch about her position in life (and in the movie).]]
** Marilyn Manson himself makes a cameo as the creep that Courtney seduces and hooks up with in Liz's bed. Of course it probably helped that he and Rose [=McGowan=] were dating at the time of filming.

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** Jeff Conaway Creator/JeffConaway as Mr. Fox, Marcie's father. Even as the sensitive father who watches Oprah and his perceived [[InformedWrongness "corniness"]] (by Marcie, anyway), in his all too brief encounter with his daughter, he was completely right [[BetaBitch about her position in life (and in the movie).]]
** Marilyn Manson Music/MarilynManson himself makes a cameo as the creep that Courtney seduces and hooks up with in Liz's bed. Of course it probably helped that he and Rose [=McGowan=] were dating at the time of filming.
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* TearJerker: Even with all of the movie's [[BlackComedy darkness]] and [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible incomprehensibility]], the scene where Julie sees Liz's ghost emerging from her pool is rather sad, especially for those who lost a friend in childhood. The music that plays in the background (the haunting "Flow" by Transister) definitely helps.
** The scene where the school learns of Liz's death would count, too.
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* [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment of Awesome]]: Courtney's responsibility for Liz's death is revealed to the school as she's crowned Prom Queen. All the girls begin pelting her with their corsages, screaming vulgarities at her and calling her a murderer as [[LaserGuidedKarma every horrible thing she's done in the movie has finally caught up with her.]] By the time she gets to the front of the gym, she meets Julie standing there with a camera.
-->'''Julie''': Smile pretty, Courtney.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Kiss the Bottle", "Want", "Fine Day", "Shield Your Eyes", "Chesterfield King", "Boxcar", "Condition Oakland", "I Love You So Much It's Killing Us Both", "Fireman"; the list goes on...
* EpicRiff: Four whole albums worth, thankfully.
* FaceOfTheBand: Undoubtedly Blake Schwarzenbach.
* SignatureSong: "Boxcar".

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* %%* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Kiss the Bottle", "Want", "Fine Day", "Shield Your Eyes", "Chesterfield King", "Boxcar", "Condition Oakland", "I Love You So Much It's Killing Us Both", "Fireman"; the list goes on...
* %%* EpicRiff: Four whole albums worth, thankfully.
* %%* FaceOfTheBand: Undoubtedly Blake Schwarzenbach.
* %%* SignatureSong: "Boxcar".



* EarWorm: "(She's so pretty!) I yoo hoo, I yoo hoo, I yoo hoo..."
* FoeYay: The more Courtney pisses off Fern and Julie the more they seem to like getting up in her face, and in one confrontation Courtney says the experience is turning her on. Keep in mind that by 'getting up in her face', the scenes are typically one of the girls being shoved into a mirror or wall by the other, who flirtatiously responds, causing the other to be struck dumb by response. 'Pretty little Courtney', indeed.

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* EarWorm: "(She's so pretty!) I yoo hoo, I yoo hoo, I yoo hoo..."
* FoeYay:
FoeYayShipping: The more Courtney pisses off Fern and Julie the more they seem to like getting up in her face, and in one confrontation Courtney says the experience is turning her on. Keep in mind that by 'getting up in her face', the scenes are typically one of the girls being shoved into a mirror or wall by the other, who flirtatiously responds, causing the other to be struck dumb by response. 'Pretty little Courtney', indeed.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Take your pick. Imperial Teen's "Yoo Hoo", Veruca Salt's "Volcano Girls", Letters to Cleo's "I See", Transister's "Flow", Scorpions' "Rock You Like a Hurricane"...



* EarWorm: "(She's so pretty!) I yoo hoo, I yoo hoo, I yoo hoo..."



* TearJerker: Even with all of the movie's [[BlackComedy darkness]] and [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible incomprehensibility]], the scene where Julie sees Liz's ghost emerging from her pool is rather sad, especially for those who lost a friend in childhood.

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* TearJerker: Even with all of the movie's [[BlackComedy darkness]] and [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible incomprehensibility]], the scene where Julie sees Liz's ghost emerging from her pool is rather sad, especially for those who lost a friend in childhood. The music that plays in the background (the haunting "Flow" by Transister) definitely helps.
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** Tatiana Ali from Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir briefly makes an appearance as a student attending senior prom looking visibly distraught when the truth behind Liz's death is brought to light.

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** Tatiana Tatyana Ali from Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir ''Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir'' briefly makes an appearance as a student attending senior prom looking visibly distraught when the truth behind Liz's death is brought to light.
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** Marilyn Manson himself makes a cameo as the creep that Courtney seduces and hooks up with in Liz's bed. Of course it probably helped that he and Rose McGowan were dating at the time of filming.
** Tatiana Ali from TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir briefly makes an appearance as a student attending senior prom looking visibly distraught when the truth behind Liz's death is brought to light.

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** Marilyn Manson himself makes a cameo as the creep that Courtney seduces and hooks up with in Liz's bed. Of course it probably helped that he and Rose McGowan [=McGowan=] were dating at the time of filming.
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* FoeYay: The more Courtney pisses off Fern and Julie the more they seem to like getting up in her face, and in one confrontation Courtney says the experience is turning her on.

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* FoeYay: The more Courtney pisses off Fern and Julie the more they seem to like getting up in her face, and in one confrontation Courtney says the experience is turning her on. Keep in mind that by 'getting up in her face', the scenes are typically one of the girls being shoved into a mirror or wall by the other, who flirtatiously responds, causing the other to be struck dumb by response. 'Pretty little Courtney', indeed.
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** Tatiana Ali from TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir briefly makes an appearance as a student attending senior prom looking visibly distraught when the thrush behind Liz's death is brought to light.

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* OneSceneWonder: Jeff Conaway as Mr. Fox, Marcie's father. Even as the sensitive father who watches Oprah and his perceived [[InformedWrongness "corniness"]] (by Marcie, anyway), in his all too brief encounter with his daughter, he was completely right [[BetaBitch about her position in life (and in the movie).]]

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Jeff Conaway as Mr. Fox, Marcie's father. Even as the sensitive father who watches Oprah and his perceived [[InformedWrongness "corniness"]] (by Marcie, anyway), in his all too brief encounter with his daughter, he was completely right [[BetaBitch about her position in life (and in the movie).]]]]
** Marilyn Manson himself makes a cameo as the creep that Courtney seduces and hooks up with in Liz's bed. Of course it probably helped that he and Rose McGowan were dating at the time of filming.
** Tatiana Ali from TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir briefly makes an appearance as a student attending senior prom looking visibly distraught when the thrush behind Liz's death is brought to light.

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!! The band:
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Kiss the Bottle", "Want", "Fine Day", "Shield Your Eyes", "Chesterfield King", "Boxcar", "Condition Oakland", "I Love You So Much It's Killing Us Both", "Fireman"; the list goes on...
* EpicRiff: Four whole albums worth, thankfully.
* FaceOfTheBand: Undoubtedly Blake Schwarzenbach.
* SignatureSong: "Boxcar".
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The main reaction to ''Dear You'' upon its release in 1995, due to the slicker production and Blake singing much more smoothly in comparison to the previous three Jawbreaker records.
* VindicatedByHistory: As mentioned above, ''Dear You'' wasn't received very warmly during its original release for a few reasons; however, fans started reconsidering their views of it after Jawbreaker broke up. When Adam Pfahler re-released it in 2004 after successfully licensing the publishing rights from Creator/GeffenRecords, the response was much more positive all-around.




!! The band:
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Kiss the Bottle", "Want", "Fine Day", "Shield Your Eyes", "Chesterfield King", "Boxcar", "Condition Oakland", "I Love You So Much It's Killing Us Both", "Fireman"; the list goes on...
* EpicRiff: Four whole albums worth, thankfully.
* FaceOfTheBand: Undoubtedly Blake Schwarzenbach.
* SignatureSong: "Boxcar".
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The main reaction to ''Dear You'' upon its release in 1995, due to the slicker production and Blake singing much more smoothly in comparison to the previous three Jawbreaker records.
* VindicatedByHistory: As mentioned above, ''Dear You'' wasn't received very warmly during its original release for a few reasons; however, fans started reconsidering their views of it after Jawbreaker broke up. When Adam Pfahler re-released it in 2004 after successfully licensing the publishing rights from Creator/GeffenRecords, the response was much more positive all-around.
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* FoeYay: The more Courtney pisses off Fern and Julie the more they seem to like getting up in her face, and in one confrontation Courtney says the experience is turning her on.



** Also, Courtney was a vicious little liar and manipulator . If Julie had gone to the police Courtney probably would've tried to spin the whole thing around and make it look like ''Julie'' killed Liz and threatened the others into compliance.

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** Also, Courtney was a vicious little liar and manipulator .manipulator. If Julie had gone to the police Courtney probably would've tried to spin the whole thing around and make it look like ''Julie'' killed Liz and threatened the others into compliance.

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