History YMMV / IpMan

9th Jun '16 6:51:56 AM jaydude
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* Narm: Jin's first appearance in the second film can best be summed up as "Jin charges onto the scene, then starts randomly throwing rather sloppy looking kung-fu moves at a mob of bad guys standing at least two meters away from him". It comes across as silly more than it does anything else.

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* Narm: {{Narm}}: Jin's first appearance in the second film can best be summed up as "Jin charges onto the scene, then starts randomly throwing rather sloppy looking kung-fu moves at a mob of bad guys standing at least two meters away from him". It comes across as silly more than it does anything else.
9th Jun '16 6:51:13 AM jaydude
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* Narm: Jin's first appearance in the second film can best be summed up as "Jin charges onto the scene, then starts randomly throwing rather sloppy looking kung-fu moves at a mob of bad guys standing at least two meters away from him". It comes across as silly more than it does anything else.
1st Apr '16 11:21:09 AM Cieloazul
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* AssPull: At the third film, Ip Man's [[BeyondTheImpossible skill to avoid hits by hearing them]] comes from nowhere in the exact moment he needs it. Not only it comes unseen, but it actually was unknown that such ability could be possible in the film's setting.



* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. In economical terms, while the second movie was slighty less succesful, was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.

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* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: EvenBetterSequel:
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The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. In economical terms, while the second movie While it was slighty less succesful, succesful economically, the film was as even more acclaimed as the first one (improving the first's 84% in Website/RottenTomatoes with a 92%) and actually got a bigger opening gross.gross.
** The third one comes to a only slightly worse critical reception (a 81%) but it enjoyed of an economic success ''several times'' bigger than the other two movies ''put together'', launching the production of a possible sequel when it was originally thought as the last iteration of the franchise.



* OneSceneWonder: Bruce Lee, both in the second film as the third one.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Master Hung. He's introduced as being a jerkass to Ip Man, and which he TakesALevelInKindness, his [[spoiler: fight to the death leads many viewers losing sympathy for him, as he's knowingly allowing himself to be killed just to make a statement, leaving his children fatherless]].

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Master Hung. He's introduced as being a jerkass to Ip Man, and which he TakesALevelInKindness, TookALevelInKindness, his [[spoiler: fight to the death leads many viewers losing sympathy for him, as he's knowingly allowing himself to be killed just to make a statement, leaving his children fatherless]].
20th Feb '16 6:14:27 AM GentlemensDame883
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* MemeticMutation: Going up against the ''IronMan'' movies at the box office has led to photoshop mashups of both movies' posters, dubbed with the convenient portmanteau name "Ipron Man".

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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
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Going up against the ''IronMan'' movies at the box office has led to photoshop mashups of both movies' posters, dubbed with the convenient portmanteau name "Ipron Man".Man".
** After the first film's release, almost anything involving Donnie Yen will lead to "I want to fight ten" jokes, and for a short time afterwards parodies of the scene made it into various other movies.
4th Jan '16 5:34:13 AM ironcommando
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* TearJerker: Twister brutally beating [[spoiler: Master Hung]] to death.

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* TearJerker: TearJerker:
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Twister brutally beating [[spoiler: Master Hung]] to death.death.
** Wing Sing's cancer revelation and her deteriorating condition in the third movie.
10th Oct '15 12:42:21 PM Cieloazul
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* AnticlimaxBoss: General Miura from the first film. Despite being built as a powerful and dangerous antagonist, his final fight against Ip Man is just a glorified CurbStompBattle for the Chinese. Miura does pose a bigger challenge than any of his underlings, but at the end, he only gets a couple of shots and throws before Ip Man completely wrecks him.

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* AnticlimaxBoss: General Miura from the first film. Despite the guy being built as a powerful and dangerous antagonist, his final fight against Ip Man is just a glorified CurbStompBattle for the Chinese. Miura does pose a bigger challenge than any of his underlings, but at the end, he only gets a couple of shots and throws before Ip Man proceeds to completely wrecks him.wreck him for the entire match.



* CriticalResearchFailure:
** Despite what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a foreign influence due to his Okinawan origin. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as fans of UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts will know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different from the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as AcceptableBreaksFromReality in order to allow for more conventional, kick-to-kick fighting scenes.
** Lesser example, but the second film tries to portray Twister as an evil brute who doesn't want to give his foes any advantages...but has him fight with his boxing gloves on.
*** Not really, boxing gloves are to protect the boxer's hands, not their opponent's faces, so technically speaking this allows Twister to punch harder and do more damage.

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* CriticalResearchFailure:
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CriticalResearchFailure: Despite what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a foreign influence due to his Okinawan origin. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as fans of UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts will know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different from the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as AcceptableBreaksFromReality in order to allow for more conventional, kick-to-kick fighting scenes.
** Lesser example, but the second film tries to portray Twister as an evil brute who doesn't want to give his foes any advantages...but has him fight with his boxing gloves on.
*** Not really, boxing gloves are to protect the boxer's hands, not their opponent's faces, so technically speaking this allows Twister to punch harder and do more damage.
scenes.



* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. Nonetheless, the film averts the {{Sequelitis}} syndrome as, while it was slighty less economically succesful, the movie was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.

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* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. Nonetheless, the film averts the {{Sequelitis}} syndrome as, In economical terms, while it the second movie was slighty less economically succesful, the movie was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.



** The idea of a imperial general forcing Chinese prisoners to fight him to prove the superiority of his martial arts could sound like the stereotypical Japanese ArrogantKungFuGuy mentality, but that's exactly what Chinese military did with Japanese prisoners during the Sino-Japanese Wars. One of the greatest martial artists in China, Chang Tung Sheng, gained fame by beating prisoners in POW camps.

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** The idea of a imperial general forcing Chinese prisoners to fight him to prove the superiority of his martial arts could sound like the stereotypical Japanese ArrogantKungFuGuy mentality, but that's exactly what Chinese military did with Japanese prisoners during the Sino-Japanese Wars. One of the greatest martial artists in China, Chang Tung Sheng, actually gained fame by beating prisoners in POW camps.



* WTHCastingAgency: Barely averted because Hiroyuki Ikeichi does a convincing performance as Miura, but the odd thing remains in that, if you are a casting director looking for a guy to play a karate master, you are not supposed to choose a judo expert.

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* WTHCastingAgency: Barely averted because Hiroyuki Ikeichi does a convincing performance as Miura, but the odd thing oddity remains in that, if you are a casting director looking for a guy to play a karate master, you are not supposed to choose a judo expert.
1st Oct '15 8:47:16 PM unwell619
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*** Not really, boxing gloves are to protect the boxer's hands, not their opponent's faces, so technically speaking this allows Twister to punch harder and do more damage.
7th Aug '15 3:46:28 PM AmbarSonofDeshar
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Despite what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a foreign influence due to his Okinawan origin. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as fans of UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts will know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different from the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as AcceptableBreaksFromReality in order to allow for more conventional, kick-to-kick fighting scenes.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: CriticalResearchFailure:
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Despite what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a foreign influence due to his Okinawan origin. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as fans of UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts will know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different from the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as AcceptableBreaksFromReality in order to allow for more conventional, kick-to-kick fighting scenes.scenes.
** Lesser example, but the second film tries to portray Twister as an evil brute who doesn't want to give his foes any advantages...but has him fight with his boxing gloves on.
1st Jun '15 7:14:54 PM Sheora
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* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. Nonetheless, the film averts hard the {{Sequelitis}} syndrome as, while it was slighty less economically succesful, the movie was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.

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* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. Nonetheless, the film averts hard the {{Sequelitis}} syndrome as, while it was slighty less economically succesful, the movie was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.
19th May '15 9:34:37 AM RagingHigher
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* HarsherInHindsight: Sammo Hung during the filming of the scene where Master Hung [[spoiler:is killed by Twister]] was punched hard in the face to require stitches, among other injuries, which required for him to go to the hospital hours later after the scene was finished.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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Sammo Hung during the filming of the scene where Master Hung [[spoiler:is killed by Twister]] was punched hard in the face to require stitches, among other injuries, which required for him to go to the hospital hours later after the scene was finished.finished.
** The idea of a imperial general forcing Chinese prisoners to fight him to prove the superiority of his martial arts could sound like the stereotypical Japanese ArrogantKungFuGuy mentality, but that's exactly what Chinese military did with Japanese prisoners during the Sino-Japanese Wars. One of the greatest martial artists in China, Chang Tung Sheng, gained fame by beating prisoners in POW camps.
1st May '15 10:55:13 AM Larkmarn
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Master Hung. He's introduced as being a jerkass to Ip Man, and which he TakesALevelInKindness, his [[spoiler: fight to the death leads many viewers losing sympathy for him, as he's knowingly allowing himself to be killed just to make a statement, leaving his children fatherless]].
3rd Mar '15 11:08:26 AM Cieloazul
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Despite what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a Chinese influence due to his Okinawan procedency. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as fans of UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts will know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different from the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as AcceptableBreaksFromReality in order to allow more conventional fighting scenes.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: Despite what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a Chinese foreign influence due to his Okinawan procedency.origin. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as fans of UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts will know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different from the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as AcceptableBreaksFromReality in order to allow for more conventional conventional, kick-to-kick fighting scenes.
26th Feb '15 4:31:46 AM Cieloazul
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Aversely to what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a Chinese influence due to his Okinawan procedency. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts fans know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different to the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as an acceptable change in order to build the theme of the film.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: Aversely to Despite what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a Chinese influence due to his Okinawan procedency. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as fans of UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts fans will know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different to from the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as an acceptable change AcceptableBreaksFromReality in order to build the theme of the film.allow more conventional fighting scenes.



* WTHCastingDepartment: Barely averted because Hiroyuki Ikeichi does a more or less good performance as Miura, but the odd thing remains in that, if you are a casting director looking for a guy to play a karate master, you are not supposed to choose a judo expert.

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* WTHCastingDepartment: WTHCastingAgency: Barely averted because Hiroyuki Ikeichi does a more or less good convincing performance as Miura, but the odd thing remains in that, if you are a casting director looking for a guy to play a karate master, you are not supposed to choose a judo expert.
25th Feb '15 6:19:03 PM GentlemensDame883
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* MoralEventHorizon: Colonel Sato makes it clear very early in his appearance that he is a SmugSnake, but crosses the horizon after he coldly guns down [[spoiler: Master Liu]] for losing an extra round he volunteered for. It is made especially stark because up to then the combat had all been hand-to-hand martial arts fare. Even the General Miura is disgusted by the action.

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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Colonel Sato makes it clear very early in his appearance that he is a SmugSnake, but crosses the horizon after he coldly guns down [[spoiler: Master Liu]] for losing an extra round he volunteered for. It is made especially stark because up to then the combat had all been hand-to-hand martial arts fare. Even the General Miura is disgusted by the action.



* WhatTheHellCastingDepartment: Barely averted because Hiroyuki Ikeichi does a more or less good performance as Miura, but the odd thing remains in that, if you are a casting director looking for a guy to play a karate master, you are not supposed to choose a judo expert.

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* WhatTheHellCastingDepartment: WTHCastingDepartment: Barely averted because Hiroyuki Ikeichi does a more or less good performance as Miura, but the odd thing remains in that, if you are a casting director looking for a guy to play a karate master, you are not supposed to choose a judo expert.
25th Feb '15 9:14:03 AM Cieloazul
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Aversely to what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a Chinese influence due to his Okinawan procedency. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts fans know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different to the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as an acceptable change in order to build the theme of the film.



* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. Nonetheless, the film averts hard the {{Sequelitis}} syndrome as, while it was slighty less economically succesful, the movie was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.



* MemeticMutation: Going up against the IronMan movies at the box office has led to photoshop mashups of both movies' posters, dubbed with the convenient portmanteau name "Ipron Man".

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* MemeticMutation: Going up against the IronMan ''IronMan'' movies at the box office has led to photoshop mashups of both movies' posters, dubbed with the convenient portmanteau name "Ipron Man".



* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. Nonetheless, the film averts hard the {{Sequelitis}} syndrome, as while it was not so economically succesful, the movie was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.


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* WhatTheHellCastingDepartment: Barely averted because Hiroyuki Ikeichi does a more or less good performance as Miura, but the odd thing remains in that, if you are a casting director looking for a guy to play a karate master, you are not supposed to choose a judo expert.
9th Feb '15 10:00:29 AM bisonx
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* SpiritualLicensee: ''Ip Man 2'' is more or less like a ForeignRemake of ''[[Franchise/{{Rocky}} Rocky IV]]''.
19th Dec '14 9:30:18 AM Cieloazul
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. Nonetheless, the film averts hard the {{Sequelitis}} syndrome, as while it was not so economically succesful, the movie was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.
19th Dec '14 9:27:35 AM Cieloazul
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* MoralEventHorizon: Colonel Sato makes it clear very early in his appearance that he is a SmugSnake, but crosses the horizon after he coldly guns down [[spoiler: Master Liu]] for losing an extra round he volunteered for. It is made especially stark because up to then the combat had all been hand-to-hand martial arts fare.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Colonel Sato makes it clear very early in his appearance that he is a SmugSnake, but crosses the horizon after he coldly guns down [[spoiler: Master Liu]] for losing an extra round he volunteered for. It is made especially stark because up to then the combat had all been hand-to-hand martial arts fare. Even the General Miura is disgusted by the action.


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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration.
23rd Nov '14 11:15:44 PM creader
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Where to begin? How about when Ip Man defeats 10 men at once? Or the final fight with General Miura?
** The final fight between Ip Man and Twister, especially when Ip Man is knocked down yet again, recalls [[HeroicSecondWind Hung's motivations for fighting]] and [[spoiler: gets back up to curbstomp Twister.]].
** When Ip Man and Master Hung fight, the casualty is the table they stand on. It is neatly broken into two semicircles. Each half is inverted, and then reused as a platform.



* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: Master Hung, I know it's noble not to give up, but you're not going to win... and I don't think your wife and seven children care about honor as much as you do]].
21st Nov '14 6:45:09 PM Cieloazul
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* AnticlimaxBoss: General Miura from the first film. Despite being built as a powerful and dangerous antagonist, his final fight against Ip Man is a glorified CurbStompBattle for the Chinese. He does pose a bigger challenge than any of his underlings, but at the end, he only gets a couple of shots and throws before Ip Man completely wrecks him.

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* AnticlimaxBoss: General Miura from the first film. Despite being built as a powerful and dangerous antagonist, his final fight against Ip Man is just a glorified CurbStompBattle for the Chinese. He Miura does pose a bigger challenge than any of his underlings, but at the end, he only gets a couple of shots and throws before Ip Man completely wrecks him.
21st Nov '14 6:39:54 PM Cieloazul
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Foreigners: Bad. Chinese Martial Arts: Good.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Where to begin? How about when Ip Man defeats 10 men at once?
** Or the final fight with General Miura.

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* AnticlimaxBoss: General Miura from the first film. Despite being built as a powerful and dangerous antagonist, his final fight against Ip Man is a glorified CurbStompBattle for the Chinese. He does pose a bigger challenge than any of his underlings, but at the end, he only gets a couple of shots and throws before Ip Man completely wrecks him.
* {{Anvilicious}}: Foreigners: Bad. Chinese Martial Arts: Good.
Good.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Where to begin? How about when Ip Man defeats 10 men at once?
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once? Or the final fight with General Miura. Miura?



* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: Master Hong, I know it's noble not to give up, but you're not going to win... and I don't think your wife and seven children care about honor as much as you do]].
* HarsherInHindsight: Sammo Hung during the filming of the scene where Master Hong [[spoiler:is killed by Twister]] was punched hard in the face to require stitches, among other injuries, which required for him to go to the hospital hours later after the scene was finished.

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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: Master Hong, Hung, I know it's noble not to give up, but you're not going to win... and I don't think your wife and seven children care about honor as much as you do]].
* HarsherInHindsight: Sammo Hung during the filming of the scene where Master Hong Hung [[spoiler:is killed by Twister]] was punched hard in the face to require stitches, among other injuries, which required for him to go to the hospital hours later after the scene was finished.



* MemeticMutation (Going up against the IronMan movies at the box office has led to photoshop mashups of both movies' posters, dubbed with the convenient Portmanteau Name "Ipron Man".)

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* MemeticMutation (Going MemeticMutation: Going up against the IronMan movies at the box office has led to photoshop mashups of both movies' posters, dubbed with the convenient Portmanteau Name portmanteau name "Ipron Man".)
6th Sep '14 8:44:30 AM despoa
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* HarsherInHindsight: Sammo Hung during the filming of the scene where Master Hong [[spoiler:is killed by Twister]] was punched hard in the face to require stitches, among other injuries, which required for him to go to the hospital hours later after the scene was finished.
4th Jan '14 6:31:38 PM eroock
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* InferredHolocaust: The first movie concludes the final fight with [[spoiler:the spectators overpowering the Japanese guards to get to the wounded hero, then cuts to him being taken to safety and later to his real-life success. What happens to the Foshan townsfolk as a result of the most probable Japanese response is left unknown.]]
20th Sep '13 6:37:14 PM Larkmarn
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The horribly-rushed (and horrible) "prequel" ''Ip Man The Legend Reborn'' is so terrible (tacky soap opera romance, gross mis-representation of Wing-Chun) that it has been declared as FanonDiscontinuity by the fans of the first two films in general and Wing-Chun practitioners alike. Averted by the sequel, which is very well received.
** Well, it really isn't part of the Ip Man movies by Wilson Yip. The Legend is Born was directed by Herman Yau, but they reused a lot of the same actors.
20th Sep '13 6:56:59 AM Larkmarn
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* CompleteMonster: Twister the British boxing champion from the sequel. Prone to racism, open disrespect for Chinese Warrior Culture and homicidal bloodlust in his fights, murdering elderly Martial Artists on a whim and ''then'' happily gloats how he is going to do it again and again until he has murdered every Chinese Martial Artist in Hong Kong. Yeah, this fella has issues.
17th Sep '13 9:27:29 PM GuitarHero1999
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* CompleteMonster: Twister the British boxing champion from the sequel. Prone to racism, open disrespect for Chinese Warrior Culture and homicidal bloodlust in his fights, murdering elderly Martial Artists on a whim and ''then'' happily gloats how he is going to do it again and again until he has murdered every Chinese Martial Artist in Hong Kong. Yeah, this fella has issues.
16th Sep '13 9:23:20 PM despoa
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The horribly-rushed (and horrible) "prequel" ''Ip Man The Legend Reborn'' is so terrible (tacky soap opera romance, gross mis-representation of Wing-Chun) that it has been declared as {{CanonDiscontinuity}} by the fans of the first two films in general and Wing-Chun practitioners alike. Averted by the sequel, which is very well received.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: The horribly-rushed (and horrible) "prequel" ''Ip Man The Legend Reborn'' is so terrible (tacky soap opera romance, gross mis-representation of Wing-Chun) that it has been declared as {{CanonDiscontinuity}} FanonDiscontinuity by the fans of the first two films in general and Wing-Chun practitioners alike. Averted by the sequel, which is very well received.
8th Sep '13 8:01:28 PM SuperSaiyaMan
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* CompleteMonster: Twister the British boxing champion from the sequel. Prone to racism, open disrespect for Chinese Warrior Culture and homicidal bloodlust in his fights.
30th Aug '13 3:32:28 PM Knight9910
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* GeniusBonus: For anyone with an upbringing in a Chinese household, a feather duster very similar to the one Ip Man used in his battle with the Northerner is a source of dread for much the same reason as how it's used in the film.
** Please, you don't need to be raised in a Chinese household to fear that thing. Multi-purposed or not, a switch is a switch.
30th Aug '13 3:15:28 PM Larkmarn
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* LoweredMonsterDifficulty:
[[FridgeLogic Then again, Ip does spend a little too long chain-punching a couple of the black-belts, without the same beatdown as Liu received, bringing this trope back into effect a bit.]]
9th Jul '13 6:10:59 PM JIKTV
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* LoweredMonsterDifficulty:
[[FridgeLogic Then again, Ip does spend a little too long chain-punching a couple of the black-belts, without the same beatdown as Liu received, bringing this trope back into effect a bit.]]
3rd Jun '13 10:38:26 AM TVRulezAgain
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* {{TearJerker}} Twister brutally beating [[spoiler: Master Hung]] to death.

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* {{TearJerker}} TearJerker: Twister brutally beating [[spoiler: Master Hung]] to death.
21st Jan '13 5:35:27 PM TVRulezAgain
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** Colonel Sato, a Japanese officer in the first movie. This is in contrast to the NobleDemon General Miura.
10th Dec '12 7:47:18 PM Alternative27Angel
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** Please, you don't need to be raised in a Chinese household to fear that thing. Multi-purposed or not, a switch is a switch.
28th Aug '12 8:51:04 PM Larkmarn
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* CompleteMonster: Twister the British boxing champion from the sequel. Prone to racism, open disrespect for Chinese Warrior Culture and homicidal bloodlust in his fights. ''The'' single most honest and realistic portrayal of a white Asian-hater ever committed to screen.
** Honest and realistic is pushing it heavily. He's certainly a chilling example of a murderous, racist psychopath, but he's given way more cover and officiating than anyone would reasonably expect in British Hong Kong, to speak nothing of the fact that most White Asian-haters never actually stooped to murder. Across the Pearl Delta in Portuguese Macao, sure, but that sort of spectacle wouldn't have been tolerated openly. Not to say it didn't *happen*, just that even corrupt officials would've hauled him in for it.

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* CompleteMonster: Twister the British boxing champion from the sequel. Prone to racism, open disrespect for Chinese Warrior Culture and homicidal bloodlust in his fights. ''The'' single most honest and realistic portrayal of a white Asian-hater ever committed to screen.
** Honest and realistic is pushing it heavily. He's certainly a chilling example of a murderous, racist psychopath, but he's given way more cover and officiating than anyone would reasonably expect in British Hong Kong, to speak nothing of the fact that most White Asian-haters never actually stooped to murder. Across the Pearl Delta in Portuguese Macao, sure, but that sort of spectacle wouldn't have been tolerated openly. Not to say it didn't *happen*, just that even corrupt officials would've hauled him in for it.
27th Aug '12 2:45:12 PM Turtler
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** Honest and realistic is pushing it heavily. He's certainly a chilling example of a murderous, racist psychopath, but he's given way more cover and officiating than anyone would reasonably expect in British Hong Kong, to speak nothing of the fact that most White Asian-haters never actually stooped to murder. Across the Pearl Delta in Portuguese Macao, sure, but that sort of spectacle wouldn't have been tolerated openly. Not to say it didn't *happen*, just that even corrupt officials would've hauled him in for it.
19th Aug '12 4:40:56 AM YuiIsMyWife
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** Twister beats [[spoiler: Master Hung]] to death in what is meant to be a exhibition match. Bad as that is, it's not this trope. This trope comes into play in the press conference afterwards. Rather than showing ANY remorse at the press conference held for his innocence, he gleefully mouths off about how he is going to murder '''every''' Chinese Warrior in the next match held to clear his name.

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** Twister beats [[spoiler: Master Hung]] to death in what is meant to be a exhibition match. Bad as that is, it's not this trope. This trope comes into play in the press conference afterwards. Rather than showing ANY remorse at the press conference held for his innocence, he gleefully mouths off about how he is going to murder '''every''' Chinese Warrior in ''in Hong Kong'' during the next match held to clear his name.
8th Jul '12 5:35:22 PM Larkmarn
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: Master Hong, I know it's noble not to give up, but you're not going to win... and I don't think your wife and seven children care about honor as much as you do]].
8th Jul '12 5:28:57 PM Larkmarn
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** Twister unecessarily beats [[spoiler: Master Hung]] to death in what is meant to be a friendly exhibition match. Rather than showing ANY remorse at the press conference held for his innocence, he gleefully mouths off about how he is going to murder '''every''' Chinese Warrior in the next match held to clear his name.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The horribly-rushed (and horrible) "prequel" ''Ip Man The Legend Reborn'' is so terrible (tacky soap opera romance, gross mis-representation of Wing-Chun) that it has been declared as {{CanonDiscontinuity}} by the fans of the first two films in general and Wing-Chun practitioners alike.

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** Twister unecessarily beats [[spoiler: Master Hung]] to death in what is meant to be a friendly exhibition match.match. Bad as that is, it's not this trope. This trope comes into play in the press conference afterwards. Rather than showing ANY remorse at the press conference held for his innocence, he gleefully mouths off about how he is going to murder '''every''' Chinese Warrior in the next match held to clear his name.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The horribly-rushed (and horrible) "prequel" ''Ip Man The Legend Reborn'' is so terrible (tacky soap opera romance, gross mis-representation of Wing-Chun) that it has been declared as {{CanonDiscontinuity}} by the fans of the first two films in general and Wing-Chun practitioners alike. Averted by the sequel, which is very well received.



* {{TearJerker}} Twister's sadistic, cold blooded and brutal murder of [[spoiler: Master Hung]].

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* {{TearJerker}} Twister's sadistic, cold blooded and brutal murder of Twister brutally beating [[spoiler: Master Hung]].Hung]] to death.
8th Jul '12 5:26:13 PM Larkmarn
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Foreigners: Bad. Chinese Martial Arts: Good.
4th Feb '12 6:16:21 PM MikuAngelVoice
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* CompleteMonster: Twister the British boxing champion from the sequel. Prone to racism, open disrespect for Chinese Warrior Culture and homicidal bloodlust in his fights. An honest and highly realistic portrayal of white Asian-haters for any Asian who has been on the receiving end of such inexcusable behavior.

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* CompleteMonster: Twister the British boxing champion from the sequel. Prone to racism, open disrespect for Chinese Warrior Culture and homicidal bloodlust in his fights. An ''The'' single most honest and highly realistic portrayal of a white Asian-haters for any Asian who has been on the receiving end of such inexcusable behavior.Asian-hater ever committed to screen.
27th Nov '11 4:08:24 PM lockonlockon
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Kenji Kawaii is the composer of the scores to both films.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Kenji Kawaii Kawai is the composer of the scores to both films.
28th Oct '11 10:53:09 AM GlennMagusHarvey
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** When Ip Man and Master Hung fight, the casualty is the table they stand on. It is neatly broken into two semicircles. Each half is inverted, and then reused as a platform.
21st Oct '11 10:44:05 AM Oreochan
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The horribly-rushed (and horrible) "prequel" ''Ip Man The Legend Reborn'' is so terrible (tacky soap opera romance, gross mis-representation of Wing-Chun) that it has been declared as {{Discontinuity}} by the fans of the first two films in general and Wing-Chun practitioners alike.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: The horribly-rushed (and horrible) "prequel" ''Ip Man The Legend Reborn'' is so terrible (tacky soap opera romance, gross mis-representation of Wing-Chun) that it has been declared as {{Discontinuity}} {{CanonDiscontinuity}} by the fans of the first two films in general and Wing-Chun practitioners alike.
4th Jul '11 6:06:49 PM CounterBlitzkrieg
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** Colonel Sato, a Japanese officer in the first movie. This is in contrast to the NobleDemon General Miura.
28th Apr '11 4:15:24 PM compla
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** Well, it really isn't part of the Ip Man movies by Wilson Yip. The Legend is Born was directed by Herman Yau, but they reused a lot of the same actors.
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