History YMMV / IpMan

9th Jun '16 6:51:56 AM jaydude
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* Narm: Jin's first appearance in the second film can best be summed up as "Jin charges onto the scene, then starts randomly throwing rather sloppy looking kung-fu moves at a mob of bad guys standing at least two meters away from him". It comes across as silly more than it does anything else.

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* Narm: {{Narm}}: Jin's first appearance in the second film can best be summed up as "Jin charges onto the scene, then starts randomly throwing rather sloppy looking kung-fu moves at a mob of bad guys standing at least two meters away from him". It comes across as silly more than it does anything else.
9th Jun '16 6:51:13 AM jaydude
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* Narm: Jin's first appearance in the second film can best be summed up as "Jin charges onto the scene, then starts randomly throwing rather sloppy looking kung-fu moves at a mob of bad guys standing at least two meters away from him". It comes across as silly more than it does anything else.
1st Apr '16 11:21:09 AM Cieloazul
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* AssPull: At the third film, Ip Man's [[BeyondTheImpossible skill to avoid hits by hearing them]] comes from nowhere in the exact moment he needs it. Not only it comes unseen, but it actually was unknown that such ability could be possible in the film's setting.



* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. In economical terms, while the second movie was slighty less succesful, was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.

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* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: EvenBetterSequel:
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The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. In economical terms, while the second movie While it was slighty less succesful, succesful economically, the film was as even more acclaimed as the first one (improving the first's 84% in Website/RottenTomatoes with a 92%) and actually got a bigger opening gross.gross.
** The third one comes to a only slightly worse critical reception (a 81%) but it enjoyed of an economic success ''several times'' bigger than the other two movies ''put together'', launching the production of a possible sequel when it was originally thought as the last iteration of the franchise.



* OneSceneWonder: Bruce Lee, both in the second film as the third one.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Master Hung. He's introduced as being a jerkass to Ip Man, and which he TakesALevelInKindness, his [[spoiler: fight to the death leads many viewers losing sympathy for him, as he's knowingly allowing himself to be killed just to make a statement, leaving his children fatherless]].

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Master Hung. He's introduced as being a jerkass to Ip Man, and which he TakesALevelInKindness, TookALevelInKindness, his [[spoiler: fight to the death leads many viewers losing sympathy for him, as he's knowingly allowing himself to be killed just to make a statement, leaving his children fatherless]].
20th Feb '16 6:14:27 AM GentlemensDame883
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* MemeticMutation: Going up against the ''IronMan'' movies at the box office has led to photoshop mashups of both movies' posters, dubbed with the convenient portmanteau name "Ipron Man".

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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
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Going up against the ''IronMan'' movies at the box office has led to photoshop mashups of both movies' posters, dubbed with the convenient portmanteau name "Ipron Man".Man".
** After the first film's release, almost anything involving Donnie Yen will lead to "I want to fight ten" jokes, and for a short time afterwards parodies of the scene made it into various other movies.
4th Jan '16 5:34:13 AM ironcommando
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* TearJerker: Twister brutally beating [[spoiler: Master Hung]] to death.

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* TearJerker: TearJerker:
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Twister brutally beating [[spoiler: Master Hung]] to death.death.
** Wing Sing's cancer revelation and her deteriorating condition in the third movie.
10th Oct '15 12:42:21 PM Cieloazul
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* AnticlimaxBoss: General Miura from the first film. Despite being built as a powerful and dangerous antagonist, his final fight against Ip Man is just a glorified CurbStompBattle for the Chinese. Miura does pose a bigger challenge than any of his underlings, but at the end, he only gets a couple of shots and throws before Ip Man completely wrecks him.

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* AnticlimaxBoss: General Miura from the first film. Despite the guy being built as a powerful and dangerous antagonist, his final fight against Ip Man is just a glorified CurbStompBattle for the Chinese. Miura does pose a bigger challenge than any of his underlings, but at the end, he only gets a couple of shots and throws before Ip Man proceeds to completely wrecks him.wreck him for the entire match.



* CriticalResearchFailure:
** Despite what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a foreign influence due to his Okinawan origin. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as fans of UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts will know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different from the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as AcceptableBreaksFromReality in order to allow for more conventional, kick-to-kick fighting scenes.
** Lesser example, but the second film tries to portray Twister as an evil brute who doesn't want to give his foes any advantages...but has him fight with his boxing gloves on.
*** Not really, boxing gloves are to protect the boxer's hands, not their opponent's faces, so technically speaking this allows Twister to punch harder and do more damage.

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* CriticalResearchFailure:
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CriticalResearchFailure: Despite what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a foreign influence due to his Okinawan origin. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as fans of UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts will know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different from the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as AcceptableBreaksFromReality in order to allow for more conventional, kick-to-kick fighting scenes.
** Lesser example, but the second film tries to portray Twister as an evil brute who doesn't want to give his foes any advantages...but has him fight with his boxing gloves on.
*** Not really, boxing gloves are to protect the boxer's hands, not their opponent's faces, so technically speaking this allows Twister to punch harder and do more damage.
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* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. Nonetheless, the film averts the {{Sequelitis}} syndrome as, while it was slighty less economically succesful, the movie was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.

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* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. Nonetheless, the film averts the {{Sequelitis}} syndrome as, In economical terms, while it the second movie was slighty less economically succesful, the movie was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.



** The idea of a imperial general forcing Chinese prisoners to fight him to prove the superiority of his martial arts could sound like the stereotypical Japanese ArrogantKungFuGuy mentality, but that's exactly what Chinese military did with Japanese prisoners during the Sino-Japanese Wars. One of the greatest martial artists in China, Chang Tung Sheng, gained fame by beating prisoners in POW camps.

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** The idea of a imperial general forcing Chinese prisoners to fight him to prove the superiority of his martial arts could sound like the stereotypical Japanese ArrogantKungFuGuy mentality, but that's exactly what Chinese military did with Japanese prisoners during the Sino-Japanese Wars. One of the greatest martial artists in China, Chang Tung Sheng, actually gained fame by beating prisoners in POW camps.



* WTHCastingAgency: Barely averted because Hiroyuki Ikeichi does a convincing performance as Miura, but the odd thing remains in that, if you are a casting director looking for a guy to play a karate master, you are not supposed to choose a judo expert.

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* WTHCastingAgency: Barely averted because Hiroyuki Ikeichi does a convincing performance as Miura, but the odd thing oddity remains in that, if you are a casting director looking for a guy to play a karate master, you are not supposed to choose a judo expert.
1st Oct '15 8:47:16 PM unwell619
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*** Not really, boxing gloves are to protect the boxer's hands, not their opponent's faces, so technically speaking this allows Twister to punch harder and do more damage.
7th Aug '15 3:46:28 PM AmbarSonofDeshar
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Despite what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a foreign influence due to his Okinawan origin. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as fans of UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts will know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different from the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as AcceptableBreaksFromReality in order to allow for more conventional, kick-to-kick fighting scenes.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: CriticalResearchFailure:
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Despite what the film implies, karate was not as patriotic or culturally representative to Japanese as wing chun was to Chinese at the time of the setting, and in fact was considered somewhat of a foreign influence due to his Okinawan origin. Instead, it would have been more accurate to portray the Japanese soldiers as practitioners of judo or jujutsu, which were the "official" martial arts of the Japanese imperial military. However, as fans of UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts will know, the resultant fighting scenes would have been vastly different from the final product and would have not resembled your classy martial arts flick, so it can be taken as AcceptableBreaksFromReality in order to allow for more conventional, kick-to-kick fighting scenes.scenes.
** Lesser example, but the second film tries to portray Twister as an evil brute who doesn't want to give his foes any advantages...but has him fight with his boxing gloves on.
1st Jun '15 7:14:54 PM Sheora
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* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. Nonetheless, the film averts hard the {{Sequelitis}} syndrome as, while it was slighty less economically succesful, the movie was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.

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* EvenBetterSequel[=/=]SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The second film is considered by many as a step forward from the first one, as it shows much more fleshed out antagonists and more credible challenges to Donnie Yen's character without losing the plot, and even its inevitable Chinese nationalism turns out more optimist and open than the {{Anvilicious}} first iteration. Nonetheless, the film averts hard the {{Sequelitis}} syndrome as, while it was slighty less economically succesful, the movie was as acclaimed as the first one and actually got a bigger opening gross.
19th May '15 9:34:37 AM RagingHigher
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* HarsherInHindsight: Sammo Hung during the filming of the scene where Master Hung [[spoiler:is killed by Twister]] was punched hard in the face to require stitches, among other injuries, which required for him to go to the hospital hours later after the scene was finished.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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Sammo Hung during the filming of the scene where Master Hung [[spoiler:is killed by Twister]] was punched hard in the face to require stitches, among other injuries, which required for him to go to the hospital hours later after the scene was finished.finished.
** The idea of a imperial general forcing Chinese prisoners to fight him to prove the superiority of his martial arts could sound like the stereotypical Japanese ArrogantKungFuGuy mentality, but that's exactly what Chinese military did with Japanese prisoners during the Sino-Japanese Wars. One of the greatest martial artists in China, Chang Tung Sheng, gained fame by beating prisoners in POW camps.
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