History YMMV / IRobot

6th Dec '16 8:26:04 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* FairForItsDay: Asimov wrote his stories with Susan Calvin at a time when nearly all women were [[DamselInDistress captured by the villain]], or love interests. Still, he stuck mostly 50's gender roles in most of his stories. The short story "Liar!", which shows more of Calvin's personality, was rewritten a couple of times after Asimov realized his first version was terrible. In the 1950s, Calvin was hailed as a great SF example of a strong female character. In the light of the 21st century, she's misanthropic, can't get a man but is desperate for one ("Liar"), feels happiest when she can mother a "baby" robot ("Lenny"), and in general appears to be a man's idea of what a woman in a man's profession "must" be like: unfulfilled and mean.

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* FairForItsDay: Asimov wrote his stories with Susan Calvin at a time when nearly all women were [[DamselInDistress captured by the villain]], or love interests. Still, he stuck mostly 50's gender roles in most of his stories. The short story "Liar!", which shows more of Calvin's personality, was rewritten a couple of times after Asimov realized his first version was terrible. In the 1950s, Calvin was hailed as a great SF example of a strong female character. In the light of the 21st century, she's misanthropic, can't get a man but is desperate for one ("Liar"), feels happiest when she can mother a "baby" robot ("Lenny"), and in general appears to be a (somewhat chauvinistic) man's idea of what a woman in a man's profession "must" be like: unfulfilled and mean.
1st Dec '16 5:48:56 AM mdwall
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* HarsherInHindsight: In "Evidence", Stephen Byerley, a liberal public prosecutor who really is doing things to stop crime and redeem criminals, is a candidate for mayor of NYC. He is accused abruptly of being a RidiculouslyHumanRobot, which would disqualify him from the election. Quinn, the political boss who propagates the rumor, is a conservative SleazyPolitician who admittedly couldn’t care less for the civil rights of his people, and so are his subordinates. The premise seems kind of silly and it's hard to believe that so many people would believe that Byerley is a robot based on such flimsy evidence. Sixty years after Asimov wrote this story, President UsefulNotes/BarackObama faced accusations that he wasn't born an American citizen, and the principal promoter of that idea was Creator/DonaldTrump. And in both cases, there were hardcases to whom no amount of proof was "proof."
29th Sep '16 7:39:30 AM rjd1922
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** This movie brought "AW HELL NO!" into our vocabulary.

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** This movie brought [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_5QdHp04E "AW HELL NO!" NO!"]] into our vocabulary.
24th Sep '16 5:59:46 PM nombretomado
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* HarsherInHindsight: In "Evidence", Stephen Byerley, a liberal public prosecutor who really is doing things to stop crime and redeem criminals, is a candidate for mayor of NYC. He is accused abruptly of being a RidiculouslyHumanRobot, which would disqualify him from the election. Quinn, the political boss who propagates the rumor, is a conservative SleazyPolitician who admittedly couldn’t care less for the civil rights of his people, and so are his subordinates. The premise seems kind of silly and it's hard to believe that so many people would believe that Byerley is a robot based on such flimsy evidence. Sixty years after Asimov wrote this story, President UsefulNotes/BarackObama faced accusations that he wasn't born an American citizen, and the principal promoter of that idea was DonaldTrump. And in both cases, there were hardcases to whom no amount of proof was "proof."

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* HarsherInHindsight: In "Evidence", Stephen Byerley, a liberal public prosecutor who really is doing things to stop crime and redeem criminals, is a candidate for mayor of NYC. He is accused abruptly of being a RidiculouslyHumanRobot, which would disqualify him from the election. Quinn, the political boss who propagates the rumor, is a conservative SleazyPolitician who admittedly couldn’t care less for the civil rights of his people, and so are his subordinates. The premise seems kind of silly and it's hard to believe that so many people would believe that Byerley is a robot based on such flimsy evidence. Sixty years after Asimov wrote this story, President UsefulNotes/BarackObama faced accusations that he wasn't born an American citizen, and the principal promoter of that idea was DonaldTrump.Creator/DonaldTrump. And in both cases, there were hardcases to whom no amount of proof was "proof."
10th May '16 2:14:16 PM Bense
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* FauxSymbolism: The lone figure on the hill. The scene is a reference to one of Asimov's short stories, in which a robot designed to dream imagines himself standing on a hill and shouting "Let my people go!"

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* FauxSymbolism: The lone figure on the hill. The scene is a reference to one of Asimov's short stories, in which a robot designed to dream imagines himself standing on a hill and shouting "Let my people go!"go!" [[spoiler:Somewhat ironically, in the short story Susan Calvin destroys the robot as soon as it admits to the full dream.]]
2nd May '16 10:04:39 AM MrDeath
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* DarkAndTroubledPast: As AlexProyas got attached to the project, the story grew darker and darker. In the commentary, he reveals that he and Bridget Moynahan talked about the possibility of Susan Calvin [[RapeAsBackstory having been raped,]] leading to her (less so than in the book) misanthropic nature, denial of her emotions, and complete trust of robots "because they're safe." Subtle hints of this are actually visible in the film, if you watch the performance closely.
2nd May '16 9:57:31 AM ErikModi
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* DarkAndTroubledPast: As AlexProyas got attached to the project, the story grew darker and darker. In the commentary, he reveals that he and BridgetMoynahan talked about the possibility of Susan Calvin [[RapeAsBackstory having been raped,]] leading to her (less so than in the book) misanthropic nature, denial of her emotions, and complete trust of robots "because they're safe." Subtle hints of this are actually visible in the film, if you watch the performance closely.

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* DarkAndTroubledPast: As AlexProyas got attached to the project, the story grew darker and darker. In the commentary, he reveals that he and BridgetMoynahan Bridget Moynahan talked about the possibility of Susan Calvin [[RapeAsBackstory having been raped,]] leading to her (less so than in the book) misanthropic nature, denial of her emotions, and complete trust of robots "because they're safe." Subtle hints of this are actually visible in the film, if you watch the performance closely.
2nd May '16 9:56:13 AM ErikModi
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* DarkAndTroubledPast: As AlexProyas got attached to the project, the story grew darker and darker. In the commentary, he reveals that he and BridgetMoynahan talked about the possibility of Susan Calvin [[RapeAsBackstory having been raped,]] leading to her (less so than in the book) misanthropic nature, denial of her emotions, and complete trust of robots "because they're safe." Subtle hints of this are actually visible in the film, if you watch the performance closely.
16th Apr '16 12:09:26 PM Eagal
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** AnalogyBackfire: In the Harlan Ellison screenplay, Quinn was right and Byerley was a liar ([[ForTheGreaterGood but still]])...



* TheWoobie:
** Gloria in "Robbie".
** Susan Calvin in "Liar!"

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* %%* TheWoobie:
** %%** Gloria in "Robbie".
** %%** Susan Calvin in "Liar!"



* TheScrappy: Farber.

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* %%* TheScrappy: Farber.
19th Dec '15 6:06:48 PM nombretomado
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* HilariousInHindsight: ShiaLaBeouf having some [[Film/{{Transformers}} robot]] issues.

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* HilariousInHindsight: ShiaLaBeouf Creator/ShiaLaBeouf having some [[Film/{{Transformers}} robot]] issues.
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