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True Art Is Incomprehensible is now an in-universe trope as per TRS.


* HypeBacklash: It's one of the internet's most recommended horror novels, and gets a ton of love and praise from its fans as being the scariest piece of literature ever. However, the heavily experimental structure of the book and the constant footnotes and citations leave some readers completely removed from the sense of horror, and many find it to be smug, pretentious, and ineffective, [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible if it's comprehensible at all]].

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* HypeBacklash: It's one of the internet's most recommended horror novels, and gets a ton of love and praise from its fans as being the scariest piece of literature ever. However, the heavily experimental structure of the book and the constant footnotes and citations leave some readers completely removed from the sense of horror, and many find it to be smug, pretentious, and ineffective, [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible if it's comprehensible at all]].all.



* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: For one thing, just the formatting (that Danielewski put much effort in) alone is chaotic and disorientating--deliberately, because the book is supposed to be a labyrinth just like the [[EldritchLocation house]] itself is. Combined with the [[UnreliableNarrator Unreliable Narrators]], the copious amounts of untranslated foreign-language text, and the fact that much of the book is open to many different interpretations, it can be a confusing read.
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** {{Invoked}} when the book lists three separate reasons as to why Navidson returned to the [[EldritchLocation house]]: The Kellog-Antwerk Claim posits that Navidson returned to "reclaim" the [[MalevolentArchitecture house]] as his property; the Bister-Friden-Josephson Criteria claims that he became TheAtoner and wanted some form of redemption for the deaths [[spoiler: his brother, Delial, and to a lesser extent Leeder and Roberts]]; and finally the Haven-Slocum Theory, which outlines that Navidson's return was his attempt to calm the [[AlienGeometries house]] to end both his bad dreams and the long-term physical and psychological impact it had on the nine or so others who had entered the [[EldritchLocation house]] and survived.

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** {{Invoked}} when the book lists three separate reasons as to why Navidson returned to the [[EldritchLocation house]]: The Kellog-Antwerk Claim posits that Navidson returned to "reclaim" the [[MalevolentArchitecture house]] as his property; the Bister-Friden-Josephson Criteria claims that he became TheAtoner and wanted some form of redemption for the deaths [[spoiler: his brother, Delial, and to a lesser extent Leeder and Roberts]]; and finally the Haven-Slocum Theory, which outlines that Navidson's return was his attempt to calm the [[AlienGeometries house]] to end both his bad dreams and the long-term physical and psychological impact it had on the nine or so others who had entered the [[EldritchLocation house]] and survived. In the following chapter, Deacon Lookner offers a far more mundane explanation: that Navidson, being ConsummateProfessional even in his obsession, was simply dissatisfied with the quality of the footage he had and wanted to get a better picture.
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** An in-universe example is discussed in Chapter VI. There is a moment in ''The Navidson Record'' where the family's cat and dog take off down one of the [[GeniusLoci house]]'s impossible hallways, only to inexplicably end up safe and sound in the back yard moments later, seemingly indicating that the effects of the [[EldritchLocation house]] don't apply to non-human animals. Zampanò observes that despite the countless volumes of commentary supposedly published about the film, this moment only ever receives a scant few mentions and no real analysis to speak of. Even the very chapter he writes this in is the shortest in the book, and the incident is never brought up again.
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** ''VideoGame/MyHouse'' has also become very attached at the hip by fans with the book, and much like the consideration of ''Skinamarink'', is felt to be the closest the book will come to having to a full-fledged adaptation to the exact MindScrew style and tone of ''The Navidson Record'' part of book thanks to the interactive medium of a video game allowing for the player to experience its unfolding story however they want.
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* HypeBacklash: It's one of the internet's most recommended horror novels, and gets a ton of love and praise from its fans as being the scariest piece of literature ever. However, the heavily experimental structure of the book and the constant footnotes and citations leave some readers completely removed from the sense of horror, and many find it to be smug, pretentious, and ineffective, [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible if it's comprehensible at all]].
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* FriendlyFandoms: With ''Film{{Skinamarink}}'', due to the film's similar premise and tone to ''The Navidson Record''. It's gotten to the point where some fans have proclaimed ''Skinamarink'' as the closest thing this book will ever come to having a proper film adaptation.

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* FriendlyFandoms: With ''Film{{Skinamarink}}'', ''Film/{{Skinamarink}}'', due to the film's similar premise and tone to ''The Navidson Record''. It's gotten to the point where some fans have proclaimed ''Skinamarink'' as the closest thing this book will ever come to having a proper film adaptation.
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* FriendlyFandoms: With ''Film{{Skinamarink}}'', due to the film's similar premise and tone to ''The Navidson Record''. It's gotten to the point where some fans have proclaimed ''Skinamarink'' as the closest thing this book will ever come to having a proper film adaptation.
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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process


* UncannyValley: The labyrinth evokes this on a deep level. It's so starkly lacking in identity, apparent purpose, and basic adherence to the laws of physics while also clearly resembling something made by human hands that one can't help but be mystified and unsettled. This quality is, naturally, analyzed by Zampanó, complete with the Heidegger quote that defined the word "uncanny" to begin with.
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* ParanoiaFuel: This book '''will''' make you terrified of the dark, or better yet, wondering what's behind you. Probably the most infamous part is Chapter 9, which already is taken over by Johnny's side notes and the inclusion of the red crossed out text. But then it goes into overdrive with the chapter becoming ''a literal labyrinth'' with a blue box on each page before eventually ending with..:
---> ''[[NothingIsScarier Picture that in your dreams.]]''

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* ParanoiaFuel: This book '''will''' make you terrified of the dark, or better yet, wondering what's behind you.you when nothing's happening, and made you scared so much as look at a [[GeniusLoci house]]. Probably the most infamous part is Chapter 9, which already is taken over by Johnny's side notes and the inclusion of the red crossed out text. But then it goes into overdrive with the chapter becoming ''a literal labyrinth'' with a blue box on each page before eventually ending with..:
---> ''[[NothingIsScarier Picture that in that. In your dreams.]]''
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* RealismInducedHorror: While the [[UnnecessarilyLargeInterior house]] is scary enough in itself, the really disturbing parts of this book tend to revolve around painstakingly detailed portrayals of mental illness and interpersonal abuse.
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** The mere fact that [[RealPersonCameo Harvey Weinstein]] is mentioned to have a hand in getting ''The Navidson Record'' published. When the book was published in 2000 he was just another Hollywood producer, but after #MeToo happened in the 2010's...

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** The mere fact that [[RealPersonCameo Harvey Weinstein]] is mentioned to have a hand in getting ''The Navidson Record'' published. When the book was published in 2000 he was just another Hollywood producer, but after #MeToo #[=MeToo=] happened in the 2010's...
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* MoralEventHorizon:
** [[spoiler: Holloway's murder of Jed]], [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone which he himself recognizes as this after coming to his senses]] and commits suicide in remorse.
** Raymond hospitalizing a 13 year old Johnny in the backstory.
** Johnny himself might have crossed this if he actually did [[spoiler: rape Kyrie]].
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** Not a single character in the book that isn't subject to this, which [[InvertedTrope seems to be the point of the entire book anyway]], considering it's one of Danielewski's fortes. The biggest example has to be Johnny Truant himself. Does he lie to the audience, [[spoiler:such as when he admits making up a story about recovering because of two friends]], or does he lie to ''himself'', breaking the illusion simply because of how broken he is?

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** Not a single character in the book that isn't subject to this, which [[InvertedTrope seems to be the point of the entire book anyway]], considering it's one of Danielewski's fortes. The biggest example has to be Johnny Truant himself. Does he lie to the audience, [[spoiler:such as when he admits making up a story about recovering because of two friends]], or does he lie to ''himself'', breaking the illusion simply because of how broken he is?is? And better yet: [[spoiler: Since the book says he disappears afterwards, did he cease to be once the work was done, did the Minotaur reach him, or was he always dead the whole time and Pelafina mentally created him while in the Asylum?]]
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** Holloway Roberts starts off as an unpleasant ControlFreak and progresses to an AxCrazy murderer, but he's covering up for a lifetime of depression and suicidal ideations and his ultimate fate is genuinely crushing.

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** Holloway Roberts starts off as an unpleasant ControlFreak and progresses to an AxCrazy murderer, but he's covering up for a lifetime of depression and suicidal ideations and his ultimate fate is genuinely soul crushing.
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* JerkassWoobie:
** Johnny Truant is a heartbreakingly tragic character, but his downward spiral causes him to become increasingly paranoid and violent, to the point where he brutally beats a man almost to death and contemplates [[spoiler: raping a woman]] in his final chapter.
** Holloway Roberts starts off as an unpleasant ControlFreak and progresses to an AxCrazy murderer, but he's covering up for a lifetime of depression and suicidal ideations and his ultimate fate is genuinely crushing.
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Interested in where this interpretation of her name came from, as it seems like something from the book


** Seraphina. She loses her husband and can't handle that emotionally, so she's put in an asylum, away from her son. The institution is a hellhole where she's repeatedly raped and abused (though this might also be her imagination... remember that to her it still is real). She tries to let her son know of the abuse in her letters, but he doesn't visit her, or maybe doesn't even write back.

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** Seraphina.Pelafina. She loses her husband and can't handle that emotionally, so she's put in an asylum, away from her son. The institution is a hellhole where she's repeatedly raped and abused (though this might also be her imagination... remember that to her it still is real). She tries to let her son know of the abuse in her letters, but he doesn't visit her, or maybe doesn't even write back.

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** Is Holloway truly villainous, or was he merely driven mad by the House? Was his [[spoiler: suicide out of fear of the minotaur, or guilt from having murdered his friend Jed?]]
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Johnny's digressions about his and Lude's sexual exploits can seem pointless. They come out of nowhere and don't have any bearing on the story.

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** Is Holloway truly villainous, or was he merely driven mad by the House? [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow House]]? Was his [[spoiler: suicide out of fear of the minotaur, or guilt from having murdered his friend Jed?]]
* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The visual art in the indices is quite compelling in a NothingIsScarier sort of way.
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Johnny's digressions about his and Lude's sexual exploits can seem pointless. They come out of nowhere and don't have any bearing on the story. Closer examination of these passages does reveal quite a lot about Johnny's character, however, and they're as filled with subtle motifs and symbols as the rest of the book.
* CultClassic: Its forbidding complexity and dark, sobering themes make it a niche work by default, but the people who love this book tend to ''love'' it.
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* UncannyValley: The labyrinth evokes this on a deep level. It's so starkly lacking in identity, apparent purpose, and basic adherence to the laws of physics while also clearly resembling something made by human hands that one can't help but be mystified and unsettled. This quality is, naturally, analyzed by Zampanó, complete with the Heidegger quote that defined the word "uncanny" to begin with.
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* ToughActToFollow: Danielewski's later works are well respected, but none are as widely read and acclaimed as this.

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Indentation. Also it's unlikey that few people knew Weinstein back then, as he already had produced many films, some of which pretty well-known.


* HarsherInHindsight: Very early in the story (page 10 or 11), Navy throws away a bit of Karen's hair that's stuck in a brush, and Karen jokingly states that she'll go bald one day and need that hair. [[spoiler: In the story's epilogue, she's in remission from breast cancer.]]
** The mere fact that [[RealPersonCameo Harvey Weinstein]] was mentioned to have a hand in getting ''The Navidson Record,'' published. Hardly any reader in 2000 would have heard of him, but after #MeToo took off...

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Very early in the story (page 10 or 11), Navy throws away a bit of Karen's hair that's stuck in a brush, and Karen jokingly states that she'll go bald one day and need that hair. [[spoiler: In the story's epilogue, she's in remission from breast cancer.]]
** The mere fact that [[RealPersonCameo Harvey Weinstein]] was is mentioned to have a hand in getting ''The Navidson Record,'' Record'' published. Hardly any reader When the book was published in 2000 would have heard of him, he was just another Hollywood producer, but after #MeToo took off...happened in the 2010's...
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** The mere fact that [[RealPersonCameo Harvey Weinstein]] was mentioned to have a hand in getting ''The Navidson Record,'' published. Hardly any reader in 2000 would have heard of him, but after #MeToo took off...
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** Is Holloway truly villainous, or was he merely driven mad by the House? Was his [[spoiler: suicide out of fear of the minotaur, or guilt from having murdered his friend Jed?]]
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** {{Invoked}} when the book lists three separate reasons as to why Navidson returned to the [[EldritchLocation house]]: The Kellog-Antwerk Claim posits that Navidson returned to "reclaim" the [[MalevolentArchitecture house]] as his property; the Bister-Friden-Josephson Criteria claims that he became TheAtoner and wanted some form of redemption for the deaths [[spoiler: his brother, Delial, and to a lesser extent Leeder and Roberts]]; and finally the Haven-Slocum Theory, which outlines that Navidson's return was his attempt to calm the [[AlienGeometries house]] to end both his bad dreams and the long-term physical and psychological impact it had on the nine or so others who had entered the house and survived.

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** {{Invoked}} when the book lists three separate reasons as to why Navidson returned to the [[EldritchLocation house]]: The Kellog-Antwerk Claim posits that Navidson returned to "reclaim" the [[MalevolentArchitecture house]] as his property; the Bister-Friden-Josephson Criteria claims that he became TheAtoner and wanted some form of redemption for the deaths [[spoiler: his brother, Delial, and to a lesser extent Leeder and Roberts]]; and finally the Haven-Slocum Theory, which outlines that Navidson's return was his attempt to calm the [[AlienGeometries house]] to end both his bad dreams and the long-term physical and psychological impact it had on the nine or so others who had entered the house [[EldritchLocation house]] and survived.



* EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory: The book can be seen as a straight use and alternatively as a parody, to the point that it features fictitious quotes from real intellectuals like Harold Bloom and Camille Paglia speculating about the meaning of the House.

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* EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory: The book can be seen as a straight use and alternatively as a parody, to the point that it features fictitious quotes from real intellectuals like Harold Bloom and Camille Paglia speculating about the meaning of the House.[[EldritchLocation house]].



* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: For one thing, just the formatting (that Danielewski put much effort in) alone is chaotic and disorientating--deliberately, because the book is supposed to be a labyrinth just like the House itself is. Combined with the [[UnreliableNarrator Unreliable Narrators]], the copious amounts of untranslated foreign-language text, and the fact that much of the book is open to many different interpretations, it can be a confusing read.

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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: For one thing, just the formatting (that Danielewski put much effort in) alone is chaotic and disorientating--deliberately, because the book is supposed to be a labyrinth just like the House [[EldritchLocation house]] itself is. Combined with the [[UnreliableNarrator Unreliable Narrators]], the copious amounts of untranslated foreign-language text, and the fact that much of the book is open to many different interpretations, it can be a confusing read.



** Johnny. His SanitySlippage and increasing obsession with the book/House cause him to lose his job and home and descend into drug addiction. There seems a spot of hope at the end of the book when he tells he's recovered, [[spoiler:but then turns out he made that up]]. By the end he's a BrokenBird. And all of this story happens after he had a broken childhood, with his father having died, his mother being put in an asylum, and abusive stepparents. It's more depressing that [[spoiler: compared to the Navidsons, we don't know what becomes of Johnny aside from interpretations...]]
** Seraphina. She loses her husband and can't handle that emotionally, so she's put in an asylum, away from her son. The institution is a hellhole where she's repeatedly raped and abused (though this might also be her imagination... remember that to her it still is real). She tries to let her son know of the abuse in her letters, but he doesn't visit her, or mabye doesn't even write back.
** The Navidsons as a whole are a family of woobies: Will struggles with trying to be with his family but his obsession with capturing everything strains it, Karen suffers from self esteem issues [[spoiler: caused by a traumatic rape and a fear of claustrophobia]], and Chad and Daisy become {{Creepy Child}}ren due to effects the House have on them.

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** Johnny. His SanitySlippage and increasing obsession with the book/House book/[[GeniusLoci house]] cause him to lose his job and home and descend into drug addiction. There seems a spot of hope at the end of the book when he tells he's recovered, [[spoiler:but then turns out he made that up]]. By the end he's a BrokenBird. And all of this story happens after he had a broken childhood, with his father having died, his mother being put in an asylum, and abusive stepparents. It's more depressing that [[spoiler: compared to the Navidsons, we don't know what becomes of Johnny aside from interpretations...]]
** Seraphina. She loses her husband and can't handle that emotionally, so she's put in an asylum, away from her son. The institution is a hellhole where she's repeatedly raped and abused (though this might also be her imagination... remember that to her it still is real). She tries to let her son know of the abuse in her letters, but he doesn't visit her, or mabye maybe doesn't even write back.
** The Navidsons as a whole are a family of woobies: Will struggles with trying to be with his family but his obsession with capturing everything strains it, Karen suffers from self esteem issues [[spoiler: caused by a traumatic rape and a fear of claustrophobia]], and Chad and Daisy become {{Creepy Child}}ren due to effects the House [[EldritchLocation house]] have on them.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Not a single character in the book that isn't subject to this, which [[InvertedTrope seems to be the point of the entire book anyway]], considering it's one of Danielewski's fortes. The biggest example has to be Johnny Truant himself. Does he lie to the audience, [[spoiler:such as when he admits making up a story about recovering because of two friends]], or does he lie to ''himself'', breaking the illusion simply because of how broken he is?

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Not a single character in the book that isn't subject to this, which [[InvertedTrope seems to be the point of the entire book anyway]], considering it's one of Danielewski's fortes. The biggest example has to be Johnny Truant himself. Does he lie to the audience, [[spoiler:such as when he admits making up a story about recovering because of two friends]], or does he lie to ''himself'', breaking the illusion simply because of how broken he is?is?
** {{Invoked}} when the book lists three separate reasons as to why Navidson returned to the [[EldritchLocation house]]: The Kellog-Antwerk Claim posits that Navidson returned to "reclaim" the [[MalevolentArchitecture house]] as his property; the Bister-Friden-Josephson Criteria claims that he became TheAtoner and wanted some form of redemption for the deaths [[spoiler: his brother, Delial, and to a lesser extent Leeder and Roberts]]; and finally the Haven-Slocum Theory, which outlines that Navidson's return was his attempt to calm the [[AlienGeometries house]] to end both his bad dreams and the long-term physical and psychological impact it had on the nine or so others who had entered the house and survived.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Not a single character in the book that isn't subject to this, which [[InvertedTrope seemed to be the point of the entire book anyway]], considering Danielewski's forte, although the biggest example has to be Johnny Turant himself. Does he lie to the audience [[spoiler: such as making up a story about recovering because of two friends]] or does he lie to himself and breaks the illusion simply because of how broke he is?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Not a single character in the book that isn't subject to this, which [[InvertedTrope seemed seems to be the point of the entire book anyway]], considering it's one of Danielewski's forte, although the fortes. The biggest example has to be Johnny Turant Truant himself. Does he lie to the audience [[spoiler: such audience, [[spoiler:such as when he admits making up a story about recovering because of two friends]] friends]], or does he lie to himself and breaks ''himself'', breaking the illusion simply because of how broke broken he is?

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** Johnny. His SanitySlippage and increasing obsession with the book/House cause him to lose his job and home and descend into drug addiction. There seems a spot of hope at the end of the book when he tells he's recovered, [[spoiler:but then turns out he made that up]]. By the end he's a BrokenBird. And all of this story happens after he had a broken childhood, with his father having died, his mother being put in an asylum, and abusive stepparents.

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** Johnny. His SanitySlippage and increasing obsession with the book/House cause him to lose his job and home and descend into drug addiction. There seems a spot of hope at the end of the book when he tells he's recovered, [[spoiler:but then turns out he made that up]]. By the end he's a BrokenBird. And all of this story happens after he had a broken childhood, with his father having died, his mother being put in an asylum, and abusive stepparents. It's more depressing that [[spoiler: compared to the Navidsons, we don't know what becomes of Johnny aside from interpretations...]]


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** The Navidsons as a whole are a family of woobies: Will struggles with trying to be with his family but his obsession with capturing everything strains it, Karen suffers from self esteem issues [[spoiler: caused by a traumatic rape and a fear of claustrophobia]], and Chad and Daisy become {{Creepy Child}}ren due to effects the House have on them.

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%%ZCE * AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Not a single character in the book that isn't subject to this, which [[InvertedTrope seemed to be the point of the entire book anyway]], considering Danielewski's forte.

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%%ZCE * AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Not a single character in the book that isn't subject to this, which [[InvertedTrope seemed to be the point of the entire book anyway]], considering Danielewski's forte. forte, although the biggest example has to be Johnny Turant himself. Does he lie to the audience [[spoiler: such as making up a story about recovering because of two friends]] or does he lie to himself and breaks the illusion simply because of how broke he is?



%%ZCE * ParanoiaFuel: This book '''will''' make you terrified of the dark, or better yet, wondering what's behind you.
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you. Probably the most infamous part is Chapter 9, which already is taken over by Johnny's side notes and the inclusion of the red crossed out text. But then it goes into overdrive with the chapter becoming ''a literal labyrinth'' with a blue box on each page before eventually ending with..:
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''[[NothingIsScarier Picture that in your dreams.]]'']]''
** Book's formatting of the later chapters (such as Chapter 12 or 20) is where the book basically screws with your mind. You begin to feel like the characters trapped within a maze.
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* JustHereForGodzilla: Yes, there's a depth of material about the life of Johnny Truant and his mother...but the Navidson Record, the most famous aspect of the book, can be read and enjoyed for the most part without even giving the framing device a second glance.
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%%ZCE * EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory: The book can be seen as a straight use and alternatively as a parody.

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%%ZCE * EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory: The book can be seen as a straight use and alternatively as a parody.parody, to the point that it features fictitious quotes from real intellectuals like Harold Bloom and Camille Paglia speculating about the meaning of the House.
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: For one thing, just the formatting (that Danielewski put much effort in) alone is chaotic and disorientating--deliberately, because the book is supposed to be a labyrinth just like the House itself is. Combined with the {{UnreliableNarrator}}s, the copious amounts of untranslated foreign-language text, and the fact that much of the book is open to many different interpretations, it can be a confusing read.

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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: For one thing, just the formatting (that Danielewski put much effort in) alone is chaotic and disorientating--deliberately, because the book is supposed to be a labyrinth just like the House itself is. Combined with the {{UnreliableNarrator}}s, [[UnreliableNarrator Unreliable Narrators]], the copious amounts of untranslated foreign-language text, and the fact that much of the book is open to many different interpretations, it can be a confusing read.

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