History YMMV / Homestuck

20th Mar '17 3:30:12 PM Mineboot45
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* CrackPairing: [= JohnXJaspersprite =], [[MemeticMutation the only pairing that matters]].

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* CrackPairing: [= JohnXJaspersprite =], [=JohnXJaspersprite=], [[MemeticMutation the only pairing that matters]].
15th Mar '17 2:34:33 PM Mineboot45
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*** Likewise, Gamzee [[FromNobodyToNightmare sobering]] [[AxCrazy up]] and turning the comic into a full-blown SlasherMovie becomes even more frightening after stories of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_clown_sightings evil clown sightings]] were reported throughout 2016.[[note]]These sightings have actually been reported since as far back as 2013, but never as common as was in 2016.[[/note]]

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*** Likewise, Gamzee [[FromNobodyToNightmare sobering]] [[AxCrazy up]] and turning the comic into a full-blown SlasherMovie becomes even more frightening after stories of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_clown_sightings evil clown sightings]] were reported throughout 2016.[[note]]These sightings have actually been reported since as far back as 2013, but never as common as was in 2016.[[/note]]
15th Mar '17 2:33:28 PM Mineboot45
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*** Likewise, Gamzee [[FromNobodyToNightmare sobering]] [[AxCrazy up]] and turning the comic into a full-blown SlasherMovie becomes even more frightening after stories of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_clown_sightings evil clown sightings]] were reported throughout 2016.[[note]]These sightings have actually been reported since as far back as 2013, but never as common as was in 2016.[[/note]]



*** Likewise, Gamzee [[FromNobodyToNightmare sobering]] [[AxCrazy up]] and turning the comic into a full-blown SlasherMovie becomes even more frightening after stories of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_clown_sightings evil clown sightings]] were reported throughout 2016.[[note]]These sightings have actually been reported since as far back as 2013, but never as common as was in 2016.[[/note]]
15th Mar '17 2:32:09 PM Mineboot45
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*** Likewise, Gamzee [[FromNobodyToNightmare sobering]] [[AxCrazy up]] and turning the comic into a full-blown SlasherMovie becomes even more frightening after stories of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_clown_sightings evil clown sightings]] were reported throughout 2016.[[note]]These sightings have actually been reported since as far back as 2013, but never as common as was in 2016.[[/note]]



** Gamzee [[FromNobodyToNightmare sobering]] [[AxCrazy up]] and turning the comic into a full-blown SlasherMovie becomes even more frightening after stories of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_clown_sightings evil clown sightings]] were reported throughout 2016.
14th Mar '17 3:21:20 PM Mineboot45
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** Gamzee [[FromNobodyToNightmare sobering]] [[AxCrazy up]] and turning the comic into a full-blown SlasherMovie becomes even more frightening after stories of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_clown_sightings evil clown sightings]] were reported throughout 2016.
6th Mar '17 2:46:44 PM Wyldchyld
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*** Smuppets are someone's FetishFuel enough to make a profitable website out of it. Faith in the audience's depth of irony is a...[[GoMadFromTheRevelation more comforting alternative to imagine]].
6th Mar '17 2:46:02 PM Mineboot45
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** Surprisingly, Vriska argues that ''Lord English'' of all people counts as this. As she points out, he's led a miserable and lonely existence with his own ego preventing him from ever finding true happiness or meaning in life. Even his mooks and supposed friends like the Felt and Doc Scratch don't show him true respect or friendship, simply working for him because they don't have any other choice. She also argues that he may not have been such an asshole if he could've just found someone who would actually care about him. Adding onto that, while Caliborn is overall a complete sociopath who epitomizes LoveToHate, there are also several points when it's hard to not feel a bit of sympathy for him, like when he says that he has a learning disability. Almost makes you forget that he's a complete monster that killed his sister and is an OmnicidalManiac who is mainly in it FortheEvulz.

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** Surprisingly, Vriska argues that ''Lord English'' of all people counts as this. As she points out, he's led a miserable and lonely existence with his own ego preventing him from ever finding true happiness or meaning in life. Even his mooks and supposed friends like the Felt and Doc Scratch don't show him true respect or friendship, simply working for him because they don't have any other choice. She also argues that he may not have been such an asshole if he could've just found someone who would actually care about him. Adding onto that, while Caliborn is overall a complete sociopath who epitomizes LoveToHate, there are also several points when it's hard to not feel a bit of sympathy for him, like when he says that he has a learning disability. Almost makes you forget that he's a complete monster that killed his sister and is an OmnicidalManiac who is mainly in it FortheEvulz.ForTheEvulz.
3rd Mar '17 8:14:09 PM Mineboot45
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: ''Homestuck'' is so notorious for the trope that fans of the comic trying and inevitably failing to get their peers interested in reading it has become a meme unto itself[[note]]"LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HOMESTUCK."[[/note]]. This is mostly due to the sheer size of the project (8127 pages in total when it ''finally'' finished, which vary in length from single images to WallOfText chat logs to ''interactive Flash games''); the complexity of the plot making it impossible to explain to the uninitiated; and the video game-centric nature of it. Additionally, in order fully get all the jokes, it is almost a prerequisite that you read the three comics that came before it: ''Webcomic/ProblemSleuth'', which is a monumental read in and of itself, ''Bard Quest'', an unfinished experiment, and ''Webcomic/{{Jailbreak}}'', the first, and as a consequence the least polished of all the creator's work. And on top of all this, in order to reach the parts anyone talks about, you have to read through a good 1500 pages of buildup; even the ''fanbase'' jokes about how slow and boring the first two chapters are.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: ''Homestuck'' is so notorious for the trope that fans of the comic trying and inevitably failing to get their peers interested in reading it has become a meme unto itself[[note]]"LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HOMESTUCK."[[/note]].HOMESTUCK"[[/note]]. This is mostly due to the sheer size of the project (8127 pages in total when it ''finally'' finished, which vary in length from single images to WallOfText chat logs to ''interactive Flash games''); the complexity of the plot making it impossible to explain to the uninitiated; and the video game-centric nature of it. Additionally, in order fully get all the jokes, it is almost a prerequisite that you read the three comics that came before it: ''Webcomic/ProblemSleuth'', which is a monumental read in and of itself, ''Bard Quest'', an unfinished experiment, and ''Webcomic/{{Jailbreak}}'', the first, and as a consequence the least polished of all the creator's work. And on top of all this, in order to reach the parts anyone talks about, you have to read through a good 1500 pages of buildup; even the ''fanbase'' jokes about how slow and boring the first two chapters are.
3rd Mar '17 8:13:57 PM Mineboot45
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* AuthorsSavingThrow

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* AuthorsSavingThrowAudienceAlienatingPremise: ''Homestuck'' is so notorious for the trope that fans of the comic trying and inevitably failing to get their peers interested in reading it has become a meme unto itself[[note]]"LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HOMESTUCK."[[/note]]. This is mostly due to the sheer size of the project (8127 pages in total when it ''finally'' finished, which vary in length from single images to WallOfText chat logs to ''interactive Flash games''); the complexity of the plot making it impossible to explain to the uninitiated; and the video game-centric nature of it. Additionally, in order fully get all the jokes, it is almost a prerequisite that you read the three comics that came before it: ''Webcomic/ProblemSleuth'', which is a monumental read in and of itself, ''Bard Quest'', an unfinished experiment, and ''Webcomic/{{Jailbreak}}'', the first, and as a consequence the least polished of all the creator's work. And on top of all this, in order to reach the parts anyone talks about, you have to read through a good 1500 pages of buildup; even the ''fanbase'' jokes about how slow and boring the first two chapters are.
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27th Feb '17 10:29:32 PM DrPsyche
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** Dave's Brother was an EnsembleDarkhorse for his CrazyAwesome feats, up until the comic confirmed him to be canonically abusive. Fan opinion split between those who simply hate him for being an abusive ass and those who feel it was ultimately Caliborn who drove him to such. Then of course there's the debate over the abuse reveal; whether it's a chilling (and well set up) CerebusCallBack to the comedy of the earlier acts or a botched attempt at MoodWhiplash and a clumsy handling of delicate subject matter.

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** Dave's Brother was an EnsembleDarkhorse for his CrazyAwesome feats, up until the comic confirmed him to be canonically abusive. Fan opinion split between those who simply hate him for being an abusive ass and those who feel it was ultimately go with the interpretation that Caliborn who drove him to such.messed with his mind (which was discussed in-universe). Then of course there's the debate over the abuse reveal; whether it's a chilling (and well set up) CerebusCallBack to the comedy of the earlier acts or a botched attempt at MoodWhiplash and a clumsy handling of delicate subject matter.



*** Then after all of this she goes missing with the narrative pointedly not making her a ChekhovsMIA. It's either LaserGuidedKarma in a suitably meta way wherein the one who wanted the spotlight is dropped from the story or it's one of the comic's biggest cases of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter.

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*** Then after all of this she goes missing with the narrative pointedly not making her a ChekhovsMIA.ChekhovMIA. It's either LaserGuidedKarma in a suitably meta way wherein the one who wanted the spotlight is dropped from the story or it's one of the comic's biggest cases of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter.
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