History YMMV / HelloProject

19th May '16 10:57:51 PM Boman803
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** That whole incident with Koharu back in 2013 is really more of a case of [[Misblame]]. If you read what is translated in the link with an unbias prospective, you will see that the host not only instigated the whole thing (he was the one imply that Koharu saw modeling as a step up from being an idol) but he started to put words in her mouth. As far as fan backlash is concerned, only the more diehard members of the H!P fanbase took offense as there were many more who upon reading the article, (including this troper) didn't really see what all the fuss was about. Even long time followers of the radio show stated that Koharu really didn't say anything wrong and that the host regularly does this sort of thing. Also, Koharu never actually said that she disliked the male fanbase she had as an idol. She only pointed a truth in that female idols tend to cater to men more and that the reason she liked being a model more was because she could be a role model for women.

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** That whole incident with Koharu back in 2013 is really more of a case of [[Misblame]].misblame. If you read what is translated in the link with an unbias prospective, you will see that the host not only instigated the whole thing (he was the one imply that Koharu saw modeling as a step up from being an idol) but he started to put words in her mouth. As far as fan backlash is concerned, only the more diehard members of the H!P fanbase took offense as there were many more who upon reading the article, (including this troper) didn't really see what all the fuss was about. Even long time followers of the radio show stated that Koharu really didn't say anything wrong and that the host regularly does this sort of thing. Also, Koharu never actually said that she disliked the male fanbase she had as an idol. She only pointed a truth in that female idols tend to cater to men more and that the reason she liked being a model more was because she could be a role model for women.
19th May '16 10:57:25 PM Boman803
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19th May '16 10:56:24 PM Boman803
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** That whole incident with Koharu back in 2013 is really more of a case of Misblam. If you read what is translated in the link with an unbias prospective, you will see that the host not only instigated the whole thing (he was the one imply that Koharu saw modeling as a step up from being an idol) but he started to put words in her mouth. As far as fan backlash is concerned, only the more diehard members of the H!P fanbase took offense as there were many more who upon reading the article, (including this troper) didn't really see what all the russ was about. Also, Koharu never actually said that she disliked the male fanbase she had as an idol. She only pointed a truth in that female idols tend to cater to men more and that the reason she liked being a model more was because she could be a role model for women.

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** That whole incident with Koharu back in 2013 is really more of a case of Misblam.[[Misblame]]. If you read what is translated in the link with an unbias prospective, you will see that the host not only instigated the whole thing (he was the one imply that Koharu saw modeling as a step up from being an idol) but he started to put words in her mouth. As far as fan backlash is concerned, only the more diehard members of the H!P fanbase took offense as there were many more who upon reading the article, (including this troper) didn't really see what all the russ fuss was about. Even long time followers of the radio show stated that Koharu really didn't say anything wrong and that the host regularly does this sort of thing. Also, Koharu never actually said that she disliked the male fanbase she had as an idol. She only pointed a truth in that female idols tend to cater to men more and that the reason she liked being a model more was because she could be a role model for women.
19th May '16 10:52:51 PM Boman803
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** That whole incident with Koharu back in 2013 is really more of a case of Misblam. If you read what is translated in the link with an unbias prospective, you will see that the host not only instigated the whole thing (he was the one imply that Koharu saw modeling as a step up from being an idol) but he started to put words in her mouth. As far as fan backlash is concerned, only the more diehard members of the H!P fanbase took offense as there were many more who upon reading the article, (including this trooper) didn't really see what all the russ was about. Also, Koharu never actually said that she disliked the male fanbase she had as an idol. She only pointed a truth in that female idols tend to cater to men more and that the reason she liked being a model more was because she could be a role model for women.

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** That whole incident with Koharu back in 2013 is really more of a case of Misblam. If you read what is translated in the link with an unbias prospective, you will see that the host not only instigated the whole thing (he was the one imply that Koharu saw modeling as a step up from being an idol) but he started to put words in her mouth. As far as fan backlash is concerned, only the more diehard members of the H!P fanbase took offense as there were many more who upon reading the article, (including this trooper) troper) didn't really see what all the russ was about. Also, Koharu never actually said that she disliked the male fanbase she had as an idol. She only pointed a truth in that female idols tend to cater to men more and that the reason she liked being a model more was because she could be a role model for women.
19th May '16 9:30:03 PM Boman803
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** That whole incident with Koharu back in 2013 is really more of a case of Misblam. If you read what is translated in the link with an unbias prospective, you will see that the host not only instigated the whole thing (he was the one imply that Koharu saw modeling as a step up from being an idol) but he started to put words in her mouth. As far as fan backlash is concerned, only the more diehard members of the H!P fanbase took offense as there were many more who upon reading the article, (including this trooper) didn't really see what all the russ was about. Also, Koharu never actually said that she disliked the male fanbase she had as an idol. She only pointed a truth in that female idols tend to cater to men more and that the reason she liked being a model more was because she could be a role model for women.
12th May '16 11:31:48 AM WakaLaka
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** [[OverlyLongGag Do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it...]] [[note]]The chorus of Utakata Saturday Night ends with the line "Do it do it dance". At the end of the song "do it" is repeated for approximately 16 seconds.

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** [[OverlyLongGag Do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it...]] [[note]]The chorus of Utakata Saturday Night ends with the line "Do it do it dance". At the end of the song "do it" is repeated for approximately 16 seconds.[[/note]]
12th May '16 11:30:50 AM WakaLaka
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** [[OverlyLongGag Do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it...]] [[note]]The chorus of Utakata Saturday Night ends with the line "Do it do it dance". At the end of the song "do it" is repeated for approximately 16 seconds.
21st Apr '16 10:07:12 AM WakaLaka
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** While initially a BaseBreaker while in Hello! Project for similar reasons to Sayumi's scrappy status, Kusumi Koharu became somewhat of a scrappy after she had already graduated, following a [[http://mm-bbs.org/index.php?s=7972543f2057d1f6a25daf0478808e86&showtopic=5567&&p=142505&&page=4#entry142505 particularly embarassing radio show appearance]] where her bahaviour was seen by some as innapropriate, as well as [[OldShame admitting that she only used Morning Musume as a stepping stone to her modelling career and her dislike of Morning Musume's male fanbase]]. It didn't help matters that this was all said in front of Michishige Sayumi, Koharu's mentor during her time in Hello! Project and Morning Musume's leader at the time, who also revealed that Koharu's behaviour within Morning Musume was often less than professional.

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** While initially a BaseBreaker while in Hello! Project for similar reasons to Sayumi's scrappy status, Kusumi Koharu became somewhat of a scrappy after she had already graduated, following a [[http://mm-bbs.org/index.php?s=7972543f2057d1f6a25daf0478808e86&showtopic=5567&&p=142505&&page=4#entry142505 particularly embarassing radio show appearance]] where her bahaviour was seen by some as innapropriate, as well as [[OldShame admitting that she only used Morning Musume as a stepping stone to her modelling career and her dislike of Morning Musume's male fanbase]]. It didn't help matters that this was all said in front of Michishige Sayumi, Koharu's mentor during her time in Hello! Project and Morning Musume's leader at the time, who also revealed that Koharu's behaviour within Morning Musume was often less than professional. This caused many fans to instantly turn against her for her "ungrateful" and "insensitive" attitude.
21st Apr '16 10:05:19 AM WakaLaka
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** While initially a BaseBreaker while in Hello! Project for similar reasons to Sayumi's scrappy status, Kusumi Koharu became somewhat of a scrappy after she had already graduated, following a [[http://mm-bbs.org/index.php?s=7972543f2057d1f6a25daf0478808e86&showtopic=5567&&p=142505&&page=4#entry142505 particularly embarassing radio show appearance]] where her bahaviour was seen by some as innapropriate, as well as [[OldShame admitting that she only used Morning Musume as a stepping stone to her modelling career and her dislike of Morning Musume's male fanbase]]. It didn't help matters that this was all said in front of Michishige Sayumi, Koharu's mentor during her time in Hello! Project and Morning Musume's leader at the time, who also revealed that Koharu's behaviour within Morning Musume was often less than professional.
24th Feb '16 10:53:22 AM WakaLaka
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*** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: She's started to become more popular with western fans since she returned from New Zealand to study English and began working with UFP to provide English reports, interviews and responding to fan comments.

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*** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: She's started starting to become more popular with western fans since she returned from New Zealand to study English and began working with UFP Up-Front Productions to provide English reports, English-language reports on Hello! Project-related activities, interviews with the current idols and responding to fan comments.comments on Facebook.
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