YMMV / Hello! Project

  • Americans Hate Tingle: Western fans of H!P will sometimes declare that Coconuts Musume was the worst group ever in the history of Hello! Project, whereas everyone else cares just as much about Coconuts as they do any other defunct H!P group.
  • Base Breaker: Coconuts Musume is this for many western H!P fans. Mika and Ayaka are usually forgiven (the first being half Japanese and the latter fully Japanese), Danielle specifically gets the most flack despite not actually being the worst at speaking Japanese.
  • Broken Base: The official PV's for Morning Musume's "Seishun Kozou ga Naiteiru" and "Yuugure wa Ameagari". Karin Miyamoto filled in for Kanon Suzuki, because Kanon had an injured leg. Karin did it as repayment for when she got injured and Ayumi Ishida took her place in the dance shot of a Juice=Juice music video. The PV preview for "Yuugure wa Ameagari" got leaked, and fans became upset when not only did Kanon not get any close-ups, but Karin had more close-ups than any of the Morning Musume members including the new members.
    • To add to the controversy over the 58th single PV's, fans thought the official PV for "Seishun Kozou ga Naiteiru" was going to be directed by a contest winner. The resulting PV, which was all CG animated aside from the girls and some props, received a much more positive reception from fans, and included Kanon. However, management still went ahead and made the official PV one directed in-house.
  • Contractual Purity: Many H!P members have been fired for such things as underage smoking or being seen with a boyfriend.
  • Ear Worm: A LOT, but especially Koharu's stuff.
    • Mini Moni had some really catchy songs.
      • Well everyone in H!P sings so...
    • Sayumi Michishige's solo song "Lalala no Pipipi". Backstage footage shows the rest of the Morning Musume girls dancing and singing along when it's performed.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: Chisato Okai was a Lesser Star in C-ute, but after uploading dance videos on YouTube, her popularity skyrocketed to the point where she's promoted to a main singer behing Maimi and Airi.
  • Fan Nickname: Nearly everyone. They also have fan ASCII faces.
  • Face of the Band: EVERY group, but in the more extreme cases:
    • Morning Musume: Takahashi Ai and Tanaka Reina, and before, Abe Natsumi.
    • During Colorful Era it was Sayashi Riho, Michishige Sayumi, and, after their graduations, attention seems to have shifted to Fukumura Mizuki
    • Berryz Koubou: Sugaya Risako
    • C-ute: Suzuki Airi and Yajima Maimi
    • S/mileage: Maeda Yuuka, and after her graduation, they're focusing in Fukuda Kanon and Tamura Meimi.
    • Mini Moni mostly focused on Hawaiian-born, half-Australian, half-Japanese Mika Todd in interviews.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment: Any joke about Iida Kaori regarding motherhood or childbirth. Especially appearances when she was actually pregnant. Other references that aren't meant to be funny are Harsher in Hindsight.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: Kanon Suzuki is fairly unpopular in Japan, but is adored by many western fans, to the point where in a J-MELO popularity poll for overseas fans, she came second place by only 2 points behind then-leader Sayumi Michishige.
  • Hollywood Pudgy: Suzuki Kanon has gotten a lot of flack for being slightly larger than the other girls in Morning Musume. Yeah, this is fat.
    • Fukuda Kanon and more recently Sudo Maasa have also been made fun of for their weight by fans, despite being very slim.
    • Back in the day, Kago Ai also got criticized for her weight often, despite looking like this at the time.
    • Sayashi Riho also got a lot of rude comments about her weight during the last couple of years of being in Morning Musume. It only worsened when Suzuki Kanon briefly lost weight in 2015, which caused many fans who previously bullied the former, to turn their attention towards Riho for being the new "fattest member". She looked like this at the time. What made it worse was that Riho was already very insecure about this issue, and had been trying various crash diets.
  • Les Yay: GAM's PV for Melodies basically operates on the premise of Girl-on-Girl Is Hot, obviously also qualifies as Ship Tease for Matsuura Aya and Fujimoto Miki.
    • Apprently former Morning Musume member Junjun really likes Berryz Koubou captain Shimizu Saki.
    Kamei Eri: Those two have a bit of a suspicious relationship.
    • On that note, Erina Ikuta's almost over-the-top adoration of Risa Niigaki seems a little too suspect...
    • Michishige Sayumi really liked to kiss the other members, especially Takahashi Ai.
  • Memetic Mutation: The infamous Dramatic Chipmunk originated from a Hello! Morning segment featuring Mini Moni (with the "chipmunk" actually being a prairie dog).
  • Narm: The English version of "Summer Night Town" by Coconuts Musume. Hearing it may provide some insight as to why the group was not so popular outside of Japan. It's even better with the music video, which besides just being badly shot/directed in general, has the girls looking completely dead inside.
  • The Scrappy: Michishige Sayumi was not well liked when she first joined Morning Musume, as her singing and dancing were decidedly sub-par and many found her narcissistic "cutest MM member" gimmick obnoxious. History would repeat itself a few years later, with the arrival of Kusumi Koharu. However, as both have grown as performers and eventually endeared themselves to a large portion of the fanbase, they can be said to have been Rescued from the Scrappy Heap; Sayumi won a lot of people over just by deliberately overplaying her Kawaiiko and It's All About Me tendencies to the point of comedy. That said, when discussing the single Resonant Blue, Sayumi lampshaded her role in the group: "I always get the 'Ah!' and 'Uh!' lines. I want to sing some actual Japanese words for a change!" Sure enough, come the single Onna ga Medatte Naze Ikenai, one of her (few) lines was an "Ah!".
    • Most recently, Mitsui Aika. Tsunku likes her though.
      • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: She's starting to become more popular with western fans since she returned from New Zealand to study English and began working with Up-Front Productions to provide English-language reports on Hello! Project-related activities, interviews with the current idols and responding to fan comments on Facebook.
    • Riho Sayashi caught a lot of this around 2012, as some fans accused her of being the Spotlight-Stealing Squad — being the default Vocal Tag Team with Reina for three straight singles certainly didn't curry any favors towards her. This mellowed out once Reina graduated and other members like Mizuki, Sakura and Masaki were showcased alongside her, but the stigma still followed her until her sudden graduation (and even then, many fans that disliked her before were stunned and saddened by the decision.)
    • While initially a Base Breaker while in Hello! Project for similar reasons to Sayumi's scrappy status, Kusumi Koharu became somewhat of a scrappy after she had already graduated, following a radio show appearance where her bahaviour was seen by some as innapropriate, as well as admitting that she only used Morning Musume as a stepping stone to her modelling career and her dislike of Morning Musume's male fanbase. It didn't help matters that this was all said in front of Michishige Sayumi, Koharu's mentor during her time in Hello! Project and Morning Musume's leader at the time, who also revealed that Koharu's behaviour within Morning Musume was often less than professional. This caused many fans to instantly turn against her for her "ungrateful" and "insensitive" attitude.
    • That whole incident with Koharu back in 2013 is really more of a case of misblame. If you read what is translated in the link with an unbias prospective, you will see that the host not only instigated the whole thing (he was the one imply that Koharu saw modeling as a step up from being an idol) but he started to put words in her mouth. As far as fan backlash is concerned, only the more diehard members of the H!P fanbase took offense as there were many more who upon reading the article, (including this troper) didn't really see what all the fuss was about. Even long time followers of the radio show stated that Koharu really didn't say anything wrong and that the host regularly does this sort of thing. Also, Koharu never actually said that she disliked the male fanbase she had as an idol. She only pointed a truth in that female idols tend to cater to men more and that the reason she liked being a model more was because she could be a role model for women.
  • Shipping: Seems to revolve around 4th Generation member and resident Tomboy Yoshizawa Hitomi being paired up with more girly members like Ishikawa Rika and Ogawa Makoto. Though H!P Fandom does get passionate Die for Our Ship is never invoked and even Ship-to-Ship Combat is rare.
  • Special Effect Failure: Some PVs.
  • Suspiciously Similar Song: The verses of Buono!'s "Internet Cupid" resemble the Super Mario Bros. theme song.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks: Fans are naturally vocally upset whenever a member joins or leaves, which is very common. However, while the other main groups have a stable line-up, the biggest backlash of this occured with Morning Musume after the 9th generation's inclusion into the group and the subsequent departures of Ai Takahashi, Risa Niigaki, and Reina Tanaka, which left Sayumi Michishige as the only recognizable member for fans who have kept up with Morning Musume since 2002. Up-Front Works has even recognized Morning Musume's waning popularity and have made several attempts to market the group's changes as a rebirth, including rebranding the group as "Morning Musume '14."
    • S/mileage changing their name to ANGERME got a lot of flack especially from English-speaking fans, as even though it was intended to be a portmaneau of the French words "Ange" (Angel) and "Larme" (Tears), most of the fanbase read it as the English "Anger me" which many felt was not only a silly name, but didn't suit the image that the group aimed to hold (a lot of people saying it was better suited to a metal group than an idol group).
  • WTH, Costuming Department?: Some of the things the girls have to wear. Seriously. I don't even...
  • The Woobie: Iida Kaori and Yasuda Kei were pretty much The Chew Toy for the hosts of Utaban who actually Would Hit a Girl, especially Iida, although they never really hurt her (physically anyway), and it's always played for laughs.
    • Yaguchi Mari has a history of being mercilessly teased on shows like Utaban and HeyHeyHey!
    • Occasionally invoked for Kago Ai due to her going through a Break the Cutie.
  • Yoko Oh No: Often occurs whenever any of the girls are caught dating on tabloids. Of note, this was one of the reasons why Ai Kago was kicked out of Hello! Project. Fans also suspect this could have been the reason why Megumi Murakami and Kanna Arihara left C-ute, as both have been photographed with a boy before their departure from the group. Rumors say that when Arihara made tabloids dating Johnny's Jr. Ryosuke Hashimoto, many fans refused to shake her hand at C-ute's subsequent fanmeet.
    • Probably one of the stupidest fan reactions of this type happened when Sakura Oda and Kanon Suzuki spotted two boys — both dancers popular on Niconico, and both big H!P fans — in the crowd at Reina Tanaka's graduation concert and sounded excited about it. Immediately, fanboys cried foul and assumed that they were dating.


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