History YMMV / HeavyRain

26th Mar '17 9:06:10 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** [[spoiler:[[MadDoctor Dr. Adrian Baker]]]] murders people by surgery while they are still alive and conscious for no other motivation than his own enjoyment. He attempts to do this on Madison Page, and a Jehovah's witness [[DisproportionateRetribution because the man wouldn't stop pestering him.]] He isn't exactly averse to a spot of ColdBloodedTorture before he kills his victims: with Madison, he acts friendly enough, but when she's in his clutches he begins attempting to torture her with a power drill.

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** [[spoiler:[[MadDoctor Dr. Adrian Baker]]]] murders people by surgery while they are still alive and conscious [[ForTheEvulz for no other motivation than his own enjoyment.enjoyment]]. He attempts to do this on Madison Page, and a Jehovah's witness [[DisproportionateRetribution because the man wouldn't stop pestering him.]] He isn't exactly averse to a spot of ColdBloodedTorture before he kills his victims: with Madison, he acts friendly enough, but when she's in his clutches he begins attempting to torture her with a power drill.
31st Dec '16 4:33:30 AM CynicalBastardo
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** Any villainy Paco might have had is completely torpedoed by the fact that he sounds an awful lot like [[WebAnimation/HomestarRunner Strong Bad]].
2nd Dec '16 10:02:53 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:

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19th Aug '16 11:37:07 AM BaronVonFistcrunch
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Beginning to evoke this reaction a scant half-decade after its release. It initially received a fair amount of praise for its dark, intricate story and cinematic gameplay. However, games such as ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' and ''VideoGame/UntilDawn'', have combined its basic formula with tighter writing that [[{{Plot Hole}} make]] [[StrangledByTheRedString the]] [[{{Narm}} more]] [[ShockingSwerve questionable]] [[IdiotPlot aspects]] of the plot harder to ignore today.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Beginning to evoke this reaction a scant half-decade after its release. It initially received a fair amount of praise for its dark, intricate story and cinematic gameplay. However, games such as ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'', ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange'', and ''VideoGame/UntilDawn'', ''VideoGame/UntilDawn'' have combined its basic formula with tighter writing that [[{{Plot Hole}} make]] [[StrangledByTheRedString the]] [[{{Narm}} more]] [[ShockingSwerve questionable]] [[IdiotPlot aspects]] of the plot harder to ignore today. Several reviews of the Playstation 4 remastered version made note of this, saying that the writing has not aged nearly as well as the visuals.
19th Aug '16 11:29:52 AM BaronVonFistcrunch
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*** There's also the fact that, should Ethan reject her, one of her endings has her [[spoiler:writing a best-selling book about the events and being hailed as a heroine for her actions, despite committing multiple crimes and breaches of journalistic integrity throughout the story and this act betraying Ethan's trust or even ''why he rejected her in the first place''.]] It make her look much less sympathetic than the heroic IntrepidReporter she seems to have been written as.



* MemeticMutation: Press 'X' to JASON. [[http://www.kongregate.com/games/kthorjensen/press-x-to-jason There's even a flash game!]]

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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
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Press 'X' to JASON. [[http://www.kongregate.com/games/kthorjensen/press-x-to-jason There's even a flash game!]]game!]]
** "The balloon! Gotta get the balloon!"[[note]]the alternative to the above "JASON" prompt, which gained overnight infamy after its usage in a WebVideo/TwoBestFriendsPlay stream of the game.[[/note]]



** Lauren not only forces Scott to let her join in the investigation by refusing to give him a piece of evidence if he refuses, but also isn't really all that helpful apart from when she has the idea to connect the names in a typewriter repair log to the ones in an origami magazine. The rest of the time she mostly just mopes over her son and seems to get easliy distracted.

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** Lauren not only forces Scott to let her join in the investigation by refusing to give him a piece of evidence if he refuses, but also isn't really all that helpful apart from when she has the idea to connect the names in a typewriter repair log to the ones in an origami magazine. The rest of the time she mostly just mopes over her son and seems to get easliy distracted.easily distracted.
** Madison is hated by a significant chunk of the fanbase as she lacks the CharacterDevelopment of the other protagonists and her scenes often distract from the main plot. Many of her scenes also come across as tasteless {{Fanservice}} by subjecting her to ugly and unneeded sexual assault scenarios that are largely ignored by the rest of the plot. Not to mention [[spoiler: the optional sex scene between her and Ethan, which comes ''after'' said scenarios]]. The story attempts to paint her as a heroic IntrepidReporter, but several of her actions, particularly during some of the worse endings, suggests she is closer to TheSociopath (See AlternateCharacterInterpretation).
18th Aug '16 4:44:57 AM MagBas
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* AssPull: [[spoiler:The reveal that Shelby is the Origami Killer]] can come across as this or even CharacterDerailment. It doesn't help that [[spoiler:he was arguably the most sympathetic character before that point.]]

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* AssPull: [[spoiler:The reveal that Shelby is the Origami Killer]] can come across as this or even CharacterDerailment. It doesn't help that [[spoiler:he was arguably the most sympathetic character before that point.]]this.
18th Aug '16 12:08:30 AM Psychadelico
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* AssPull: [[spoiler:The reveal that Shelby is the Origami Killer]] can come across as this or CharacterDerailment. It doesn't help that [[spoiler:he was arguably the most sympathetic character before that point.]]

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* AssPull: [[spoiler:The reveal that Shelby is the Origami Killer]] can come across as this or even CharacterDerailment. It doesn't help that [[spoiler:he was arguably the most sympathetic character before that point.]]
18th Aug '16 12:05:30 AM Psychadelico
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* AssPull: [[spoiler:The reveal that Shelby is the Origami Killer]] can come across as this or CharacterDerailment. It doesn't help that [[spoiler:he was arguably the most sympathetic character before that point.]]
16th Jul '16 2:28:10 AM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Madison and her playable segments are rather controversial among the audience. One group perceives her as a well written and strong female character who is capable of impressive feats against her aggressors without being portrayed as a damsel in distress, and is independent enough to help Ethan in his quest to save his son, going as far as to put herself in danger to find clues of the child whereabouts. Another group argues that Madison is portrayed as an unnecessary form of fan-service that adds nothing to the story, along with several events where Madison is often attacked by several sexually violent aggressors, such as [[spoiler: the nightmares in her debut, Adrian Baker who tries to sexually assault her with an electric drill as she is strapped to a table, and Paco Mendez who forces her at gunpoint to strip naked]], which gives the impression that almost every man she meets happens to be rapists and murderers. Finally, Madison herself has no real ties to the main story other than her chance meeting with an injured Ethan, prompting her into wanting to help him save his son, and could easily be written out of the story.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Madison and her playable segments are rather controversial among the audience. One group perceives her as a well written and strong female character who is capable of impressive feats against her aggressors without being portrayed as a damsel in distress, and is independent enough to help Ethan in his quest to save his son, going as far as to put herself in danger to find clues of the child whereabouts. Another group argues that Madison is portrayed as an unnecessary form of fan-service that adds nothing to the story, along with several events where Madison is often attacked by several sexually violent aggressors, such as [[spoiler: the nightmares in her debut, Adrian Baker who tries to sexually assault her with an electric drill as she is strapped to a table, and Paco Mendez who forces her at gunpoint to strip naked]], which gives the impression that almost every man she meets happens to be rapists and murderers. Finally, Madison herself has no real ties to the main story other than her chance meeting with an injured Ethan, prompting her into wanting to help him save his son, and could easily be written out of the story.
28th May '16 6:01:55 PM Nick7689
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*** Especially [[spoiler: John's]] cries for help when he's stuck in the water pipe. He could not sound any more disinterested even if he tried:
--> "Help...help...help."
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