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** [[spoiler: The lack of reaction of almost everyone to both Salem's existence and her declarations at the summit, with the TSAB apparently justifying [[KillThemAll her previous actions]] by virtue of [[WellIntentionedExtremist necessity]] or [[ProperlyParanoid justified fear of the Belkans]], and the only result of her speech being Ozpin losing credibility in front of the other leaders. Many are concerned these actions paint Salem as a KarmaHoudini, and that, despite the meeting of all Remnant's leaders being hyped in the previous chapters, they're all almost non-entities during these events.]]

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** [[spoiler: The lack of reaction of almost everyone to both Salem's existence and her declarations at the summit, with the TSAB apparently justifying [[KillThemAll her previous actions]] actions by virtue of [[WellIntentionedExtremist necessity]] or [[ProperlyParanoid justified fear of the Belkans]], and the only result of her speech being Ozpin losing credibility in front of the other leaders. Many are concerned these actions paint Salem as a KarmaHoudini, and that, despite the meeting of all Remnant's leaders being hyped in the previous chapters, they're all almost non-entities during these events.]]
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** Related to the above, [[spoiler: Nanoha being deprived of her clearance due to the aforementioned event in order to prevent potential security breaches. Some are offended by Nanoha being DemotedToExtra in a crossover with her own franchise, while others argue that Nanoha was always meant to be more of a SupportingProtagonist in a similar vein to [[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS StrikerS]].]]
* MagnificentBastard: Roman constantly demonstrates his expertise in deception, investigation, and improvisation over the course of the story, which pays off after he realizes Cinder's not the biggest fish in the ocean anymore and switches sides, averting [[EatenAlive the fate]] [[KilledOffForReal he suffered]] in canon.
** Cinder is really good at XanatosSpeedChess. [[ForWantOfANail Despite the]] [[DidntSeeThatComing many setbacks]] and [[SpannerInTheWorks spanners derailing the timing on most of her plans]], [[spoiler:[[InSpiteOfANail she successfully steals the Fall Maiden's power]]]].

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** Related to the above, [[spoiler: Nanoha being deprived of her clearance due to the aforementioned event in order to prevent potential security breaches. Some are offended by Nanoha being DemotedToExtra in a crossover with her own franchise, while others argue that Nanoha was always meant to be more of a SupportingProtagonist in a similar vein to [[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS StrikerS]].]]
* MagnificentBastard: Roman constantly demonstrates his expertise in deception, investigation, and improvisation over the course of the story, which pays off after he realizes Cinder's not the biggest fish in the ocean anymore and switches sides, averting [[EatenAlive the fate]] [[KilledOffForReal he suffered]] in canon.
** Cinder is really good at XanatosSpeedChess. [[ForWantOfANail Despite the]] [[DidntSeeThatComing many setbacks]] and [[SpannerInTheWorks spanners derailing the timing on most of her plans]], [[spoiler:[[InSpiteOfANail she successfully steals the Fall Maiden's power]]]].
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** Related to the above, [[spoiler: Nanoha being deprived of her clearance due to the aforementioned event in order to prevent potential security breaches. Some are offended by Nanoha being DemotedToExtra in a crossover with her own franchise, while others argue that Nanoha was always meant to be more of a SupportingProtagonist in a similar vein to [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS StrikerS]].]]

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** Related to the above, [[spoiler: Nanoha being deprived of her clearance due to the aforementioned event in order to prevent potential security breaches. Some are offended by Nanoha being DemotedToExtra in a crossover with her own franchise, while others argue that Nanoha was always meant to be more of a SupportingProtagonist in a similar vein to [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS [[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS StrikerS]].]]
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** Related to the above, [[spoiler: Nanoha being deprived of her clearance due to the aforementioned event in order to prevent potential security breaches. Some are offended by Nanoha being DemotedToExtra in a crossover with her own franchise, while others argue that Nanoha was always meant to be more of a SupportingProtagonist in a similar vein to [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers Strikers]].]]

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** Related to the above, [[spoiler: Nanoha being deprived of her clearance due to the aforementioned event in order to prevent potential security breaches. Some are offended by Nanoha being DemotedToExtra in a crossover with her own franchise, while others argue that Nanoha was always meant to be more of a SupportingProtagonist in a similar vein to [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers Strikers]].[[MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS StrikerS]].]]
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** [[spoiler: Salem hacking Raising Heart, with the latter being revealed [[AdaptationOriginConnection as an Al-Hazredian device]]. Some feel Salem having access codes to a backdoor on Raising Heart is contrived and nearly pushing her to VillainSue status, with other also remarking that the other characters showed little reaction to a potentially threatening move on Salem's part.]]

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** [[spoiler: Salem hacking Raising Heart, with the latter being revealed [[AdaptationOriginConnection as an Al-Hazredian device]]. Some feel Salem having access codes to a backdoor on Raising Heart is contrived and nearly pushing her to VillainSue status, with other also remarking that the other characters showed little reaction to a potentially threatening move on Salem's part.]]
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* BrokenBase: The release of Chapter 38 caused significant backlash, to the point that the thread on SpaceBattles had to be locked after a few days. The main points of contention appear to be:

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* BrokenBase: The release of Chapter 38 caused significant backlash, to the point that the thread on SpaceBattles Website/SpaceBattlesDotCom had to be locked after a few days. The main points of contention appear to be:
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* BrokenBase: The release of Chapter 38 caused significant backlash, to the point that the thread on SpaceBattles had to be locked after a few days. The main points of contention appear to be:
** [[spoiler: The lack of reaction of almost everyone to both Salem's existence and her declarations at the summit, with the TSAB apparently justifying [[KillThemAll her previous actions]] by virtue of [[WellIntentionedExtremist necessity]] or [[ProperlyParanoid justified fear of the Belkans]], and the only result of her speech being Ozpin losing credibility in front of the other leaders. Many are concerned these actions paint Salem as a KarmaHoudini, and that, despite the meeting of all Remnant's leaders being hyped in the previous chapters, they're all almost non-entities during these events.]]
** [[spoiler: Salem hacking Raising Heart, with the latter being revealed [[AdaptationOriginConnection as an Al-Hazredian device]]. Some feel Salem having access codes to a backdoor on Raising Heart is contrived and nearly pushing her to VillainSue status, with other also remarking that the other characters showed little reaction to a potentially threatening move on Salem's part.]]
** Related to the above, [[spoiler: Nanoha being deprived of her clearance due to the aforementioned event in order to prevent potential security breaches. Some are offended by Nanoha being DemotedToExtra in a crossover with her own franchise, while others argue that Nanoha was always meant to be more of a SupportingProtagonist in a similar vein to [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers Strikers]].]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Roman constantly demonstrates his expertise in deception, investigation, and improvisation over the course of the story, which pays off after he realizes Cinder's not the biggest fish in the ocean anymore and switches sides, averting [[EatenAlive the fate]] [[KilledOffForReal he suffered]] in canon.

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* MagnificentBastard: Roman constantly demonstrates his expertise in deception, investigation, and improvisation over the course of the story, which pays off after he realizes Cinder's not the biggest fish in the ocean anymore and switches sides, averting [[EatenAlive the fate]] [[KilledOffForReal he suffered]] in canon.canon.
** Cinder is really good at XanatosSpeedChess. [[ForWantOfANail Despite the]] [[DidntSeeThatComing many setbacks]] and [[SpannerInTheWorks spanners derailing the timing on most of her plans]], [[spoiler:[[InSpiteOfANail she successfully steals the Fall Maiden's power]]]].
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MagnificentBastard: Roman constantly demonstrates his expertise in deception, investigation, and improvisation over the course of the story, which pays off after he realizes Cinder's not the biggest fish in the ocean anymore and switches sides, averting [[EatenAlive the fate]] [[KilledOffForReal he suffered]] in canon.

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MagnificentBastard: *MagnificentBastard: Roman constantly demonstrates his expertise in deception, investigation, and improvisation over the course of the story, which pays off after he realizes Cinder's not the biggest fish in the ocean anymore and switches sides, averting [[EatenAlive the fate]] [[KilledOffForReal he suffered]] in canon.

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Les Yay is about implications, OT 3 is about fanon and so doesn't really apply since they all agreed to go to the dance together, and there is nothing YMMV about Hayate and Nora's shipping goggles.


* LesYay: Nanoha and Fate are in the story and in their pre-StrikerS relationship (which they explicitly acknowledge as being a romantic relationship). White Rose is also pretty heavily-teased. The author has said that Cinder and Hayate are not going to be in a relationship, but nevertheless they showed a surprising amount of chemistry during the dance arc.
* OT3: Blake eventually goes to the dance with both Yang and Sun.
* ShippingGoggles: Nora and Hayate get along amazingly during the lead up to the Beacon Dance by pairing off every student they can.

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* LesYay: Nanoha MagnificentBastard: Roman constantly demonstrates his expertise in deception, investigation, and Fate are improvisation over the course of the story, which pays off after he realizes Cinder's not the biggest fish in the story ocean anymore and in their pre-StrikerS relationship (which they explicitly acknowledge as being a romantic relationship). White Rose is also pretty heavily-teased. The author has said that Cinder and Hayate are not going to be in a relationship, but nevertheless they showed a surprising amount of chemistry during switches sides, averting [[EatenAlive the dance arc.
* OT3: Blake eventually goes to the dance with both Yang and Sun.
* ShippingGoggles: Nora and Hayate get along amazingly during the lead up to the Beacon Dance by pairing off every student they can.
fate]] [[KilledOffForReal he suffered]] in canon.
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* LesYay: Nanoha and Fate are in the story and in their pre-StrikerS relationship (which they explicitly acknowledge as being a romantic relationship). White Rose is also pretty heavily-teased. The author has said that Cinder and Hayate are not going to be in a relationship, but during the dance arc...

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* LesYay: Nanoha and Fate are in the story and in their pre-StrikerS relationship (which they explicitly acknowledge as being a romantic relationship). White Rose is also pretty heavily-teased. The author has said that Cinder and Hayate are not going to be in a relationship, but nevertheless they showed a surprising amount of chemistry during the dance arc...arc.
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* LesYay: Nanoha and Fate are in the story and in their pre-StrikerS relationship (which they explicitly acknowledge as being a romantic relationship). White Rose is also pretty heavily-teased. The author has said that Cinder and Hayate are not going to be in a relationship, but during the dance arc...
* OT3: Blake eventually goes to the dance with both Yang and Sun.
* ShippingGoggles: Nora and Hayate get along amazingly during the lead up to the Beacon Dance by pairing off every student they can.

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