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** Emmlette = Emma Perkins / Charlotte

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** Emmlette = Emma Perkins / CharlotteCharlotte Sweetly
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** Charted = Charlotte / Ted Spankoffski

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** Charted = Charlotte Sweetly / Ted Spankoffski
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* EvilIsSexy: Professor Hidgens is played by PrettyBoy Robert Manion, so of course there are plenty of fans who find the character attractive. And there's the similar EstrogenBrigade Creator/JoeyRichter has had since his college days turning out to fan themselves over Uncle Wiley.
** On the other side of the gender line, a ''ton'' of fans LoveToHate Creator/LaurenLopez as Linda Monroe in more ways than one, including being openly jealous of the male cultists she forces to wait on her and kiss her feet in ''Theatre/BlackFriday''.
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* IdiosyncraticShipNaiming: Grace/Max gets this a lot, with "Holy Ghost," "Holyghost," and "Ghostsoup" being the most common.

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* IdiosyncraticShipNaiming: IdiosyncraticShipNaming: Grace/Max gets this a lot, with "Holy Ghost," "Holyghost," and "Ghostsoup" being the most common.
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* IdiosyncraticShipNaiming: Grace/Max gets this a lot, with "Holy Ghost," "Holyghost," and "Ghostsoup" being the most common.


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** Stephgrace = Stephanie Lauter / Grace Chasity
** Jagertitty or Gracemax = Max Jägerman / Grace Chasity
** Lautski = Stephanie Lauter / Peter Spankoffski
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** Charlotte is a LoveMartyr towards her philandering, dismissive husband Sam. She makes a genuine effort to fix things, attending counselling and trying to spend time with Sam, but he blows her off in favor of screwing around with his younger girlfriend. And while she does have an affair of her own, it's with [[{{Jerkass}} Ted]]... who ''does'' seem to have genuine affection for her, but he CannotSpitItOut, and she won't leave Sam anyway.

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** Charlotte Sweetly is a LoveMartyr towards her philandering, dismissive husband Sam. She makes a genuine effort to fix things, attending counselling and trying to spend time with Sam, but he blows her off in favor of screwing around with his younger girlfriend. And while she does have an affair of her own, it's with [[{{Jerkass}} Ted]]... who ''does'' seem to have genuine affection for her, but he CannotSpitItOut, and she won't leave Sam anyway.

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** Robert Manion is a current fan-favorite target for ActorShipping (since he's the resident younger PrettyBoy and has a large EstrogenBrigade). There's a lot of Mariah/Robert shipping -- ironic, since up until "Forever & Always" they'd never appeared as a couple or even significantly interacted in a show, and is based mostly on social media banter and the two of them doing a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QIM3znzZ7I killer cover]] of "Seventeen" from ''Theatre/{{Heathers}}''. (They ''would'' have played a couple in ''Theatre/BlackFriday'' but Mariah had to bow out of playing Lex Foster due to being cast in ''Theatre/MeanGirls'', which led to Robert and Mariah having a tongue-in-cheek "falling out" online.) That said, Robert and Angela had strong enough chemistry in their brief time together as Lex and Ethan in ''Theatre/BlackFriday'' that they got shipping goggles directed at them too.
** Curt Mega and Kim Whalen have been together since they were teenagers and married since 2010, so the "shipping" is less intense, but a lot of their fans were very excited to see them both officially join the cast of ''Theatre/BlackFriday''. They still haven't played a couple onstage in the Hatchetfield series, but Duke and Miss Holloway in ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'''s "The Witch in the Web" get a lot of ImpliedLoveInterest flirting in.
*** Confirmed in in ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'''s "Killer Track" when it comes to Duke and Miss Holloway (albeit in the saddest fashion possible), plus they're playing Karen and Mark Chasity in ''Nerdy Prudes Music Die''.

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** Robert Manion is Manion, prior to being booted from the series, was a current fan-favorite target for ActorShipping (since he's ActorShipping, being the resident younger PrettyBoy and has having a large EstrogenBrigade). There's EstrogenBrigade. There was a lot of Mariah/Robert shipping -- ironic, since up until "Forever & Always" they'd never appeared as a couple or even significantly interacted in a show, and is based mostly on social media banter and the two of them doing a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QIM3znzZ7I killer cover]] of "Seventeen" from ''Theatre/{{Heathers}}''. (They ''would'' have played a couple in ''Theatre/BlackFriday'' but Mariah had to bow out of playing Lex Foster due to being cast in ''Theatre/MeanGirls'', which led to Robert and Mariah having a tongue-in-cheek "falling out" online.) That said, Robert and Angela had strong enough chemistry in their brief time together as Lex and Ethan in ''Theatre/BlackFriday'' that they got shipping goggles directed at them too.
** Curt Mega and Kim Whalen have been together since they were teenagers and married since 2010, so the "shipping" is less intense, but a lot of their fans were very excited to see them both officially join the cast of ''Theatre/BlackFriday''. They still haven't have played a couple onstage in the Hatchetfield series, but couples twice, as Duke and Miss Holloway in ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'''s "The Witch in the Web" get a lot of ImpliedLoveInterest flirting in.
*** Confirmed in in ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'''s "Killer Track" when it comes to Duke
''WebVideo/NightmareTime'' and Miss Holloway (albeit in the saddest fashion possible), plus they're playing Karen and Mark Chasity in ''Nerdy Prudes Music Die''.''Theatre/NerdyPrudesMustDie''.



** People have also pointed out HoYay of a more wholesome nature with Robert and Jon's relationship as roommates, especially after the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic quarantine started, with their goofy married-couple bickering and domesticity (especially after they started streaming ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossingNewHorizons'' together). That said, HoYay shipping and jokes about Robert have receded a lot, ironically, after he actually did come out as bisexual on social media and did so with an accompanying [[TearJerker emotional story about how being in the closet]] [[TheOneThatGotAway cost him a possible relationship with a dear friend he was secretly in love with in the past]].

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** People have also pointed out HoYay of a more wholesome nature with Robert and Jon's relationship as roommates, especially after the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic quarantine started, with their goofy married-couple bickering and domesticity (especially after they started streaming ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossingNewHorizons'' together). That said, HoYay shipping and jokes about Robert have receded a lot, ironically, after he actually did come out as bisexual on social media and did so with an accompanying [[TearJerker emotional story about how being in the closet]] [[TheOneThatGotAway cost him a possible relationship with a dear friend he was secretly in love with in the past]].



* FanNickname: Two of the Lords in Black, Pokotho and Nibblenephim haven't been given official cutesy nicknames yet, but fans have pretty quickly decided (or, perhaps more accurately, deduced) they're called Pokey (or possibly Po, in imitation of the Series/{{Teletubbies}}) and Nibbly.

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* FanNickname: Two of The recurring background nerd portrayed by Robert Manion in ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' and ''Theatre/BlackFriday'' was known by the Lords in Black, Pokotho fans as "Hot Chocolate Boy", due to having ordered a hot chocolate at Beanie's and Nibblenephim haven't been given having no other official cutesy nicknames yet, but fans have pretty quickly decided (or, perhaps more accurately, deduced) they're called Pokey (or possibly Po, name (as his name in imitation of the Series/{{Teletubbies}}) and Nibbly.script of TGWDLM, "Obnoxious Teen", was later transferred to the character originating in ''Theatre/BlackFriday'' who took over his RecurringExtra role). "Abstinence Camp" revealed the character to be Ted's younger brother, Peter Spankoffski.



** There's similar jokes that have really harshly been {{Jossed}} by later canon, like the Homeless Man never actually being possessed by the evil force and "just vibin'" [[spoiler: {with any Homeless Man jokes becoming a HarsherInHindsight after "Time Bastard")]].

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** There's similar jokes that have really harshly been {{Jossed}} by later canon, like the Homeless Man never actually being possessed by the evil force and "just vibin'" [[spoiler: {with (with any Homeless Man jokes becoming a HarsherInHindsight after "Time Bastard")]].



** In November 2020, a movie called ''Black Friday'' was announced -- a HorrorComedy with very similar plot elements not only to [[Theatre/BlackFriday the Hatchetfield play of the same title]], but with a little bit of ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' thrown in too! [=StarKid=] fans were outraged, but Nick Lang took it rather well, sure it's a coincidence and eager to see the film when it comes out. The end of the "feud" on social media was director Casey Patrick Tebo saying he'd watched Starkid's ''Black Friday'', liked it a lot and would love to [[https://twitter.com/caseyshoots/status/1328856214793555976?s=20 put a Wiggly doll in the movie]] as an EasterEgg, though we'll see if it actually happens.

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** In November 2020, a movie called ''Black Friday'' was announced -- a HorrorComedy with very similar plot elements not only to [[Theatre/BlackFriday the Hatchetfield play of the same title]], but with a little bit of ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' thrown in too! [=StarKid=] fans were outraged, but Nick Lang took it rather well, sure it's a coincidence and eager to see the film when it comes out. The end of the "feud" on social media was director Casey Patrick Tebo saying he'd watched Starkid's ''Black Friday'', liked it a lot and would love to [[https://twitter.com/caseyshoots/status/1328856214793555976?s=20 put a Wiggly doll in the movie]] as an EasterEgg, though we'll see if it actually happens.EasterEgg. It is currently unclear is this has happened.



** Ted is an absolute asshole and spends most of his stagetime being utterly insufferable. Then came "Time Bastard," in which we find out [[spoiler:he UsedToBeASweetKid before having his heart broken, and his ultimate fate of being driven to madness before eventually being murdered and having his soul [[AndIMustScream trapped in the Bastard's Box for all eternity]] is so horrible, practically ''no one'' really deserves it. Worse, the Langs have confirmed that becoming the insane Homeless Man is Ted's fate in ''every'' facet of Hatchetfield multiverse.]]

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** Ted is an absolute asshole and spends most of his stagetime being utterly insufferable. Then came "Time Bastard," in which we find out [[spoiler:he UsedToBeASweetKid before having his heart broken, and his ultimate fate of being driven to madness before eventually being murdered and having his soul [[AndIMustScream trapped in the Bastard's Box for all eternity]] is so horrible, practically ''no one'' really deserves it. Worse, the Langs have confirmed that becoming the insane Homeless Man is Ted's fate in ''every'' facet of Hatchetfield multiverse.]]



* SophomoreSlump:
** The second installment, ''Theatre/BlackFriday'', is the most polarizing piece of Hatchetfield media. Compared to its smash-hit predecessor ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'', its well-received successor ''Theatre/NerdyPrudesMustDie'', and the welcome and tantalizing lore of ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'', the show that first introduced the concept of this being a series has tended to fade into the background.
** To a lesser extent, ''Nightmare Time 2'' seemingly received less hype than the first season, to the point that Nick Lang worries that concluding the story with ''Nightmare Time 3'', as he desires to, won't be worth the trouble.



** Becky Barnes has only just got out of a marriage to an abusive monster and is surrounded by malicious gossip from the townsfolk who blame her for not leaving him, since everyone thinks he ran off with another woman. To make matters worse, Linda gleefully makes it clear that ''everyone'' knew what was happening to Becky, but did any of them try and help? Nope. [[spoiler:She also carries a lot of guilt for stabbing her husband and possibly killing him, and lives in fear of him either coming back for revenge, or his body being discovered.]] It gets worse in the plot of "Jane's a Car", where she gets to witness her new boyfriend Tom go through rapid SanitySlippage [[spoiler:and then, as far as she knows, gets betrayed and murdered by him.]]

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** Becky Barnes has only just got out of a marriage to an abusive monster and is surrounded by malicious gossip from the townsfolk who blame her for not leaving him, since everyone thinks he ran off with another woman. To make matters worse, Linda gleefully makes it clear that ''everyone'' knew what was happening to Becky, but did any of them try and help? Nope. [[spoiler:She also carries a lot of guilt for stabbing her husband and possibly killing him, and lives in fear of him either coming back for revenge, or his body being discovered.]] It gets worse in the plot of "Jane's a Car", where she gets to witness her new boyfriend Tom go through rapid SanitySlippage [[spoiler:and then, as far as she knows, gets betrayed sees him betray and murdered by him.attempt to murder her.]]
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* SpiritualSuccessor: Despite the massive difference in tone and style, the Hatchetfield series has been said to be one for ''Theatre/TheTrailToOregon'' -- the Creator/LangBrothers describe the decision to do ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' as driven by the desire to reunite the same ProductionPosse who did ''TTO'' in 2014, saying it was the most fun and the easiest experience they'd had doing a show in the past and wanted to keep this same team going in the future. The Hatchetfield series has the same songwriter as ''The Trail to Oregon'', Creator/JeffBlim, and a similar MoodWhiplash-based comedic sensibility. There's even a explicit CallBack to a concept from ''TTO'' with Blinky's title "The Watcher with a Thousand Eyes", referencing the "horror" sequence in ''TTO'' leading into the song "Dysentery World".
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** On the less-serious side are goofy memes about various {{Unexpected Character}}s being the "real latte hotté", i.e. someone unexpected Ted has a crush on (because Ted is headcanoned as an AnythingThatMoves pansexual), which as MemeticMutation has ended up encompassing every Hatchetfield character that exists and every actor in the Creator/TeamStarkid orbit.

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** On the less-serious side are goofy memes about various {{Unexpected Character}}s being the "real latte hotté", i.e. someone unexpected Ted has a crush on (because Ted is headcanoned as an AnythingThatMoves pansexual), which as MemeticMutation has ended up encompassing every Hatchetfield character that exists and every actor in the Creator/TeamStarkid orbit.
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** Becky Barnes has only just got out of a marriage to an abusive monster, and is surrounded by malicious gossip from the townsfolk who blame her for not leaving him, since everyone thinks he ran off with another woman. To make matters worse, Linda gleefully makes it clear that ''everyone'' knew what was happening to Becky, but did any of them try and help? Nope. [[spoiler:She also carries a lot of guilt for stabbing her husband and possibly killing him, and lives in fear of him either coming back for revenge, or his body being discovered.]] It gets worse in the plot of "Jane's a Car", where she gets to witness her new boyfriend Tom go through rapid SanitySlippage [[spoiler:and then, as far as she knows, gets betrayed and murdered by him.]]
** Hannah Foster has an abusive, neglectful mother who couldn't care less about her, and her AmbiguousDisorder and psychic powers mean she can't really connect with other people. Her older sister Lex adores her, but there's only so much she can do, and in at least one story, they've been seperated, leaving Hannah on her own. To make matters worse, her powers make her ''very'' interesting to the various {{Eldritch Abomination}}s running around.

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** Becky Barnes has only just got out of a marriage to an abusive monster, monster and is surrounded by malicious gossip from the townsfolk who blame her for not leaving him, since everyone thinks he ran off with another woman. To make matters worse, Linda gleefully makes it clear that ''everyone'' knew what was happening to Becky, but did any of them try and help? Nope. [[spoiler:She also carries a lot of guilt for stabbing her husband and possibly killing him, and lives in fear of him either coming back for revenge, or his body being discovered.]] It gets worse in the plot of "Jane's a Car", where she gets to witness her new boyfriend Tom go through rapid SanitySlippage [[spoiler:and then, as far as she knows, gets betrayed and murdered by him.]]
** Hannah Foster has an abusive, neglectful mother who couldn't care less about her, and her AmbiguousDisorder ambiguous disorder and psychic powers mean she can't really connect with other people. Her older sister Lex adores her, but there's only so much she can do, and in at least one story, they've been seperated, leaving Hannah on her own. To make matters worse, her powers make her ''very'' interesting to the various {{Eldritch Abomination}}s running around.

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** Becky Barnes has only just got out of a marriage to an abusive monster, and is surrounded by malicious gossip from the townsfolk who blame her for not leaving him, since everyone thinks he ran off with another woman. To make matters worse, Linda gleefully makes it clear that ''everyone'' knew what was happening to Becky, but did any of them try and help? Nope. [[spoiler:She also carries a lot of guilt for stabbing her husband and possibly killing him, and lives in fear of him either coming back for revenge, or his body being discovered.]] It gets worse in the plot of "Jane's a Car", where she gets to witness her new boyfriend Tom go through rapid SanitySlippage [[spoiler: and then, as far as she knows, gets betrayed and murdered by him.]]
** Hannah Foster has an abusive, neglectful mother who couldn't care less about her, and her AmbiguousDisorder and psychic powers mean she can't really connect with other people. Her older sister Lex adores her, but there's only so much she can do, and in at least one story, they've been seperated, leaving Hannah on her own. To make matters worse, her powers make her ''very'' interesting to the various {{Eldritch Abomination}}s running around.

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** Becky Barnes has only just got out of a marriage to an abusive monster, and is surrounded by malicious gossip from the townsfolk who blame her for not leaving him, since everyone thinks he ran off with another woman. To make matters worse, Linda gleefully makes it clear that ''everyone'' knew what was happening to Becky, but did any of them try and help? Nope. [[spoiler:She also carries a lot of guilt for stabbing her husband and possibly killing him, and lives in fear of him either coming back for revenge, or his body being discovered.]] It gets worse in the plot of "Jane's a Car", where she gets to witness her new boyfriend Tom go through rapid SanitySlippage [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and then, as far as she knows, gets betrayed and murdered by him.]]
** Hannah Foster has an abusive, neglectful mother who couldn't care less about her, and her AmbiguousDisorder and psychic powers mean she can't really connect with other people. Her older sister Lex adores her, but there's only so much she can do, and in at least one story, they've been seperated, leaving Hannah on her own. To make matters worse, her powers make her ''very'' interesting to the various {{Eldritch Abomination}}s running around.around.
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** Notably, in the early stages of ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals''' Kickstarter campaign, LesYay shippers shipped Emma and Charlotte together just based on their ''character descriptions'' (the spunky {{Tsundere}} barista and the ShrinkingViolet {{Dandere}} office worker), possibly just because of the punny PortmanteauCoupleName "Emmalotte" (i.e. "omelette"). This led to a minor WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings moment when a minority of fans accused Creator/NickLang of being homophobic for directly [[ShipSinking sinking this ship]] when asked about it -- since the Paul/Emma pairing and Charlotte/Ted/Sam LoveTriangle is central to the plot -- which pretty much completely died down once the actual story of the musical was revealed, including the canon gay ship between Alice/Deb. That said, of course, the Emma/Charlotte ship still exists (because nothing in fandom truly dies), even though it now requires fans to extrapolate a ''lot'' from Emma and Charlotte's minimal interactions in ''TGWDLM''. (They have one conversation, in which Emma has difficulty even remembering Charlotte's name.)

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** Notably, in the early stages of ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals''' Kickstarter campaign, LesYay shippers shipped Emma and Charlotte together just based on their ''character descriptions'' (the spunky {{Tsundere}} barista and the ShrinkingViolet {{Dandere}} office worker), possibly just because of the punny PortmanteauCoupleName "Emmalotte" (i.e. "omelette"). This led to a minor WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings moment when a minority of fans accused Creator/NickLang of being homophobic for directly [[ShipSinking sinking rejecting this ship]] ship when asked about it -- since the Paul/Emma pairing and Charlotte/Ted/Sam LoveTriangle is central to the plot -- which pretty much completely died down once the actual story of the musical was revealed, including the canon gay ship between Alice/Deb. That said, of course, the Emma/Charlotte ship still exists (because nothing in fandom truly dies), even though it now requires fans to extrapolate a ''lot'' from Emma and Charlotte's minimal interactions in ''TGWDLM''. (They have one conversation, in which Emma has difficulty even remembering Charlotte's name.)
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** There's similar jokes that have really harshly been {{Jossed}} by later canon, like the Homeless Man never actually being possessed by the evil force and "just vibin'" [[spoiler: {with any Homeless Man jokes becoming a FunnyAneurysmMoment after "Time Bastard")]].

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** There's similar jokes that have really harshly been {{Jossed}} by later canon, like the Homeless Man never actually being possessed by the evil force and "just vibin'" [[spoiler: {with any Homeless Man jokes becoming a FunnyAneurysmMoment HarsherInHindsight after "Time Bastard")]].



** Re: disability/mental illness representation, it's nearly a universal consensus among fans that Hannah Foster's AmbiguousDisorder is autism, and that Paul Matthews shares it.

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** Re: disability/mental illness representation, it's nearly a universal consensus among fans that Hannah Foster's AmbiguousDisorder Foster [[DiagnosedByTheAudience is autism, autistic]], and that Paul Matthews shares it.autistic traits.

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