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*** The guy is immune, the bike isn't. Stock up on as many SMG ammo as you can before doing that mission and you should be able to kill him before you reach the ambush spot. Depending on your timing, the bike usually catches flames on the highway ("Catch me if you caaaaan" section).

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* BaseBreaker - CJ's ''somewhat'' LighterAndSofter personality in comparison to the other protagonist has led to many debates over whether it's a good thing or not.



* The mission, High Noon, can get extremely infuriating. You have to chase down and kill [[spoiler: Pulaski]] in a car that is prone to spinning out and/or flipping over very easily while the target drives a fast car that can take a ton of bullets before exploding. Naturally, the mission fails if the target gets away. Should you bring the target's car to near explosion? He will bail out but shoot you with a desert eagle, which can be enough to blow up your car that is most likely heavily damaged from crashing and being shot at.

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* ** The mission, High Noon, can get extremely infuriating. You have to chase down and kill [[spoiler: Pulaski]] in a car that is prone to spinning out and/or flipping over very easily while the target drives a fast car that can take a ton of bullets before exploding. Naturally, the mission fails if the target gets away. Should you bring the target's car to near explosion? He will bail out but shoot you with a desert eagle, which can be enough to blow up your car that is most likely heavily damaged from crashing and being shot at.at.
* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: CJ
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** Although it's easy too miss on a first playthough, you might be wondering why [[spoiler: Big Smoke's house is in Balla territory...]]
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* The mission, High Noon, can get extremely infuriating. You have to chase down and kill [[spoiler: Pulaski]] in a car that is prone to spinning out and/or flipping over very easily while the target drives a fast car that can take a ton of bullets before exploding. Naturally, the mission fails if the target gets away. Should you bring the target's car to near explosion? He will bail out but shoot you with a desert eagle, which can be enough to blow up your car that is most likely heavily damaged from crashing and being shot at.

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* Highjack is a bit of a pain, just because Cesar [[MostAnnoyingSound won't shut up]]. You have to ride along side a truck at just the right speed, and be RIGHT NEXT TO IT, and it's timed. Have fun.

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* ** Highjack is a bit of a pain, just because Cesar [[MostAnnoyingSound won't shut up]]. You have to ride along side a truck at just the right speed, and be RIGHT NEXT TO IT, and it's timed. Have fun.fun.
** One mission requires the player drive a motorbike into the back of a plane as it is taking off. It is not exactly easy under any circumstances, but on the early PC releases, there was an issue where frame rate would affect how fast the plane moved relative to you; depending on what settings you used and what specs your computer had, it was literally impossible to catch the plane.

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* Office Tenpenny is actually an interesting case. You could make an argument he's a CompleteMonster but there's also plenty of room to contend that he's no worse than CJ. Los Santos' criminals ''are'' completely out of control and playing them against one another may be the only way to keep the violence down.

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* ** Office Tenpenny is actually an interesting case. You could make an argument he's a CompleteMonster but there's also plenty of room to contend that he's no worse than CJ. Los Santos' criminals ''are'' completely out of control and playing them against one another may be the only way to keep the violence down.down.
*** Of course, given some of the comments he gives to CJ you could also say he's a self-hating black.
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* Office Tenpenny is actually an interesting case. You could make an argument he's a CompleteMonster but there's also plenty of room to contend that he's no worse than CJ. Los Santos' criminals ''are'' completely out of control and playing them against one another may be the only way to keep the violence down.


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* KickTheDog: CJ, despite being the hero, gets a few of these moments. These include [[spoiler: murdering Mad Dogg's manager for OG Loc, attacking a nearby gang at a funeral for someone he killed, and murdering people that are trying to bring down Tenpenny including FBI agents.]]
** Tenpenny, of course, gets plenty of them throughout the game.
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* AlasPoorVillain: "When I'm gone, everyone's gonna remember my name...BIG SMOKE!"

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* AlasPoorVillain: "When I'm gone, everyone's gonna remember my name...[[spoiler: BIG SMOKE!" SMOKE]]!"
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* AlasPoorVillain: "When I'm gone, everyone's gonna remember my name...BIG SMOKE!"
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Mike Toreno. Helped by the fact that he's played by ''James Woods'', and gets some of the best and best delivered lines in the whole game. Woozie and Ryder also have a lot of fans.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Mike Toreno. Helped by the fact that he's played by ''James Woods'', and gets some of the best and best delivered lines in the whole game. Woozie and Ryder also have a lot of fans.
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** There's an early level where you have to impress a girl by dancing on the beach (read: playing a button-timing mini-game). Since this game pre-dated ''{{Guitar Hero}}'', the concept of [=HDTV=] lag hadn't really hit the public consciousness yet. A lot of early adopters couldn't beat that mission.

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** There's an early level where you have to impress a girl by dancing on the beach (read: playing a button-timing mini-game). Since this game pre-dated ''{{Guitar Hero}}'', Hero}}'' (though notably came after ''{{Dance Dance Revolution}}''), the concept of [=HDTV=] lag hadn't really hit the public consciousness yet. A lot of early adopters couldn't beat that mission.


* LawfulEvil: Officer Tenpenny.
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* Highjack is a bit of a pain, just because Cesar [[MostAnnoyingSound won't shut up]]. You have to ride along side a truck at just the right speed, and be RIGHT NEXT TO IT, and it's timed. Have fun.
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* CompleteMonster: Officers Tenpenny and Pulaski.

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** A mission where you need to save [[spoiler:Madd Dogg from killing himself]] would have him jump before you can save him (at the very beginning of the mission), and players literally would have to start over and hope the glitch didn't happen again. Contrary to popular belief, its not random. It only happens if you use pedestrian model altering cheats.

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** A mission where you need to save [[spoiler:Madd Dogg from killing himself]] would have him jump before you can save him (at the very beginning of the mission), and players literally would have to start over and hope the glitch didn't happen again. again.
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** For some, "Freefall" is frustrating beyond all comprehension. You have to fly a plane and position it at ''exactly'' the right angle above and behind the bad guys plane so you can fly through the ring, and they're jet is flying in the opposite direction that you're flying, so in order to get in said position, you have to turn the jet around at ''exactly'' the right moment and fly through the ring while struggling with the very frustrating controls(well they're frustrating in the PC version anyways) and if you miss, then you're completely screwed, if you suceed, then you have to kill all the bad guys on the plane very quickly as they can kill you pretty fast due to the close quarters, and then you have to actually land the plane, which isn't really hard, but by that point you desperately want the mission to be over so you can save and relax. The only way to make that mission easier is to enter the "perfect handling" cheat so you can have an easier time sterring the plane, and even then it's still pretty frustrating to do.

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** For some, "Freefall" is frustrating beyond all comprehension. You have to fly a plane and position it at ''exactly'' the right angle above and behind the bad guys guys' plane so you can fly through the ring, and they're ring. Their jet is flying in the opposite direction that you're flying, so in order to get in said position, you have to turn the jet around at ''exactly'' the right moment and fly through the ring while struggling with the very frustrating controls(well they're frustrating in the PC version anyways) and if controls. If you miss, then you're completely screwed, screwed; if you suceed, then succeed, you have to kill all the bad guys on the plane very quickly as they can kill you pretty fast due to the close quarters, and then you have to actually land the plane, which isn't really hard, but by that point you desperately want the mission to be over so you can save and relax. quarters. The only way to make that mission easier is to enter the "perfect handling" cheat so you can have an easier time sterring steering the plane, and even then it's still pretty frustrating to do.



** There's an early level where you have to impress a girl by dancing on the beach (read: playing a button-timing mini-game). But since this game pre-dated ''{{Guitar Hero}}'' the concept of [=HDTV=] lag hadn't really hit the public consciousness yet, but no excuse with Bemani games been around long ago. A lot of early adopters couldn't beat that mission.
** "Tanker Commander". It's actually a fairly simple mission - steal a tanker truck and take it to a man who will buy it. However, you have two guys in a car chasing and shooting at you, the tanker can't take that much damage, and it's quite easy to make too sharp a turn and disconnect the tank, which means mission failure. One can't help but wonder if the reason why "Tanker Commander" is the nearest mission when you first join up with Catalina is so you can get it over with. Uhm, [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just get out of the truck and shoot them.]] Works for almost every mission where you're being chased
** "OG Loc" Annoying motorcycle chase, the guy being chased being immune to damage. Thankfully at the end of the chase, you can kill him.
** "Learning to Fly" appear to be the particular nemesis (and often game-enders) for a lot of players.

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** There's an early level where you have to impress a girl by dancing on the beach (read: playing a button-timing mini-game). But since Since this game pre-dated ''{{Guitar Hero}}'' Hero}}'', the concept of [=HDTV=] lag hadn't really hit the public consciousness yet, but no excuse with Bemani games been around long ago.yet. A lot of early adopters couldn't beat that mission.
** "Tanker Commander". It's actually a fairly simple mission - steal a tanker truck and take it to a man who will buy it. However, you have two guys in a car chasing and shooting at you, the tanker can't take that much damage, and it's quite easy to make too sharp a turn and disconnect the tank, which means mission failure. One can't help but wonder if the reason why "Tanker Commander" is the nearest mission when you first join up with Catalina is so you can get it over with. Uhm, [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just get out of the truck and shoot them.]] Works for almost every mission where you're being chased
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** "OG Loc" Annoying features an annoying motorcycle chase, and the guy being chased being is immune to damage. Thankfully at the end of the chase, you can kill him.
** "Learning to Fly" appear to be the particular nemesis (and often game-enders) for a lot of players.
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*** This mission isn't too tricky for the players that have grasped the flying controls (easier on certain versions) as the target can be approached from behind after a sizable circular run with plenty of time to spare. However, it can still be ThatOneLevel for other reasons, the best being that it's ''delightfully ridiculous''. If the widely-touted "something new in every mission" pre-release prospect showed itself rather questioningly in any one mission, this would probably be it.
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** There's an early level where you have to impress a girl by dancing on the beach (read: playing a button-timing mini-game). But since this game pre-dated ''{{Guitar Hero}}'' the concept of [=HDTV=] lag hadn't really hit the public consciousness yet. A lot of early adopters couldn't beat that mission.

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** There's an early level where you have to impress a girl by dancing on the beach (read: playing a button-timing mini-game). But since this game pre-dated ''{{Guitar Hero}}'' the concept of [=HDTV=] lag hadn't really hit the public consciousness yet.yet, but no excuse with Bemani games been around long ago. A lot of early adopters couldn't beat that mission.
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* AcceptableReligiousTargets: [[ChurchOfHappyology A certain real-life religious movement]] gets this with the Epsilon Program, which also has elements of the Rael cult thrown in. Tell you what, take the weight of your nodes and I'll tell you all about it, Uncle-Brother!

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* AcceptableReligiousTargets: [[ChurchOfHappyology A certain real-life religious movement]] gets this with the Epsilon Program, which also has elements of the Rael cult thrown in. Tell you what, take the weight of off your nodes and I'll tell you all about it, Uncle-Brother!
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* AcceptableReligiousTargets: [[ChurchOfHappyology A certain real-life religious movement]] gets this with the Epsilon Program, which also has elements of the Rael cult thrown in.

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** "Tanker Commander". It's actually a fairly simple mission - steal a tanker truck and take it to a man who will buy it. However, you have two guys in a car chasing and shooting at you, the tanker can't take that much damage, and it's quite easy to make too sharp a turn and disconnect the tank, which means mission failure. One can't help but wonder if the reason why "Tanker Commander" is the nearest mission when you first join up with Catalina is so you can get it over with.
*** Uhm, [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just get out of the truck and shoot them.]] Works for almost every mission where you're being chased

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** "Tanker Commander". It's actually a fairly simple mission - steal a tanker truck and take it to a man who will buy it. However, you have two guys in a car chasing and shooting at you, the tanker can't take that much damage, and it's quite easy to make too sharp a turn and disconnect the tank, which means mission failure. One can't help but wonder if the reason why "Tanker Commander" is the nearest mission when you first join up with Catalina is so you can get it over with.
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** "Learning to Fly" appear to be the particular nemesis (and often game-enders) for a lot of players.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is CJ a good person? Some people consider his PetTheDog moments (such as his love for his sister, his friendships with various characters, his desire to clean up the streets from drugs and his general tendency to help people in need) to be enough to make him a good person doing bad things. Others find his reprehensible acts (he kills people for a living, he ruined Madd Dogg's life to help his asshole friend) too much.

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Is CJ a good person? Some people consider his PetTheDog moments (such as his love for his sister, his friendships with various characters, his desire to clean up the streets from drugs and his general tendency to help people in need) to be enough to make him a good person doing bad things. Others find his reprehensible acts (he kills people for a living, he ruined Madd Dogg's life to help his asshole friend) too much.much.
** Is Sweet a {{Jerkass}} who ran his brother out of town, blaming him for his little brother's death, and disrespects said brother for trying to get his family out of the ghetto, and deserves everything he gets, or a stand-up guy who cares deeply about his home, family and friends, and wants to get everything back to what it was in the [[GloryDays good old days]] and ends up in a deep pile of crap he didn't deserve because of it?


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** Troper, you a busta.
** You mother-fuckin' piece of shit gangbangin' cocksucka!
** [[StopHelpingMe The yay leavin' San Fierro, right?]] ... Yeah, but they're using ''bikes'' CJ, and they're going ''cross country''!
** [[ItsAWonderfulFailure All you had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!]]
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*** Uhm, [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just get out of the truck and shoot them.]] Works for almost every mission where you're being chased
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* MostAnnoyingSound: Just about anything Zero says during [[ThatOneLevel his missions]]. And [[ThatOneLevel "All you had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!"]]



* GoodBadBugs: Plenty
** The Mulholland safe house can store vehicles on the roof of the garage. This allows it to serve as a helipad.
** Like the other 3d [=GTAs=], various vehicles are rendered immune to some forms of attack for plot reasons. [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/914983-grand-theft-auto-san-andreas/faqs/34824 Through various methods]] one can steal them and drive them around unkillable.
* MostAnnoyingSound: Just about anything Zero says during [[ThatOneLevel his missions]]. And [[ThatOneLevel "All you had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!"]]



* WallBanger:
** The [[HotCoffeeMinigame Hot Coffee]] scandal, mainly due to the stupidity of the politicians and such.
** In-game example: Almost all of the OG Loc missions. One of them has you slitting the throat of several innocent mansion security just to steal some piece of paper and learning stealth kill.
*** He isn't immune to damage, just take a shortcut and kill them with an AK as he goes past.
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* CrazyAwesome: The Truth and Maccer.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Mike Toreno. Helped by the fact that he's played by ''James Woods'', and gets some of the best and best delivered lines in the whole game. Woozie and Ryder also have a lot of fans.
* MostAnnoyingSound: Just about anything Zero says during [[ThatOneLevel his missions]]. And [[ThatOneLevel "All you had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!"]]


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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: This whole game centers around the effects of hard drugs (especially crack cocaine) on the inner cities, and repeatedly makes sure that those drugs and the people who push them corrupt everything in the end if they aren't stopped. Given how horrible the cities in the games already are, it wouldn't have been effective if they hadn't gone overboard.
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*** Additionally, Big Smoke will only aim at one gang member at a time, so you have to move forward or back to target a specific person. Admittedly, the game clues you in on [[BulletSparks the missed shots when you're not in position]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: the mission where you rob the Caligula's Palace Casino is the reason behind Salvatore Leone's [[GrandTheftAutoIII paranoia]] regarding his subordinates

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* FridgeBrilliance: the mission where you rob the Caligula's Palace Casino is the reason behind Salvatore Leone's [[GrandTheftAutoIII paranoia]] regarding his subordinatessubordinates.
* TheScrappy: Zero, mainly because of the "Supply Lines" mission under ThatOneLevel (among just about all of his other missions).


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** The [[HotCoffeeMinigame Hot Coffee]] scandal, mainly due to the stupidity of the politicians and such.
** In-game example: Almost all of the OG Loc missions. One of them has you slitting the throat of several innocent mansion security just to steal some piece of paper and learning stealth kill.

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